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Ex-roommate/ex-friend owes me over $8K. How to proceed?
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:46 PM Author: white therapy I was the only fucking ADULT with a checkbook, so I wrote the rent checks every month and he was supposed to pay me. He kept saying he'd start paying me back the next month but I only saw $400 in 11 months before I got up the balls to kick him out. (Gave him a very specific ultimatum which he was unable to fulfill.) He moved out in November.
I did have him sign a sublease beforehand to avoid a situation like this, but I only dated it for the rest of the lease, and we ended up renewing. Will that matter? I also have a lot of FB messages and emails detailing what he owes me.
He's actually making $$ now, but he's ignored my FB messages for over a month. What do? |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:48 PM Author: tantric dingle berry immigrant cost you 8K to never have this pos in your life. some might consider that a decent deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894129) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:53 PM Author: filthy orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894154) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:58 PM Author: Boyish gas station (Sonny LoSpecchio) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894202) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:59 PM Author: white therapy $8K is a lot, though ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894212) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:01 PM Author: tantric dingle berry immigrant yeah, it's relative for sure. then go small claims. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894223) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:06 PM Author: white therapy I mean, it's a lot of money that I *should* have. I'm not a poor; I make six figures. But I spend recklessly, so I only have about $20K in the bank (and a backup $50K I never touch, and $200K in retirement). So $8K isn't the difference between net positive and negative, and I can still buy literally whatever I want without going negative, but it'd be a nice chunk of cash :((((
Small claims is looking like the best/only option. uggghhhhhh |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:27 PM Author: dark blood rage (woman moment) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894418) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 5:11 PM Author: 180 chartreuse degenerate doctorate Lol @ rich people having roommates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894730) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 5:15 PM Author: white therapy I've always found it fun to live with friends, on top of being cheaper. Currently living with 2 others in a nice, spacious 3-bedroom in a great area for $766 each. Unfortunately I was actually paying $1532 instead because of this moron.
But yeah I decided yesterday that I'm gonna start looking for my own place, at least seeing what's out there. |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 5:40 PM Author: 180 chartreuse degenerate doctorate but yeah that's totally the problem with roommates
$8k is a lot but I find they inevitably fuck you over
it's kind of like a 'investment property' you rent out, as long as nothing bad happens, you make a little money |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 4:57 PM Author: pearl thriller whorehouse newt if it were FL, I'd represent you and get a writ of bodily attachment after the scumbag inevitably no shows at the small claims hearing & fails to pay on the default (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43900651) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:04 PM Author: marvelous mediation plaza this happened to a friend. he filed against defendant in small claims court. defendant never showed. he correctly guessed defendant's bank of choice. he asked judge for a writ of attachment on the bank. he got his money.
YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:07 PM Author: white therapy oooo pls tell me more about writ of attachment!! I might be able to figure out his bank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894276) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:25 PM Author: marvelous mediation plaza just google "writ of attachment [your state]" and see if there are any rules about it for your jurisdiction
why did you let your friend stay 11 months without paying? |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:27 PM Author: white therapy Thank!!
Because I'm a pussy, because he was my friend, and because he got all pissy and defensive whenever I brought it up. And sometimes we'd have a big discussion and come up with an agreement, like $200/paycheck, and I believed him when he said he'd follow through but then he didn't. |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 10:41 PM Author: marvelous mediation plaza Sorry to hear that man - is there more to the story? $8k is a fat chunk of debt to accumulate even if you don’t like conflict (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43896410) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 11:31 PM Author: white therapy Not really. He's just an immature, self-centered brat who took advantage of how bitchmade I am. Or "nice", depending on who you ask.
Yep it was 11mo at $766, so $8426. Fuck this kid. And he had the AUDACITY to complain about dumb shit around the house when he literally wasn't paying rent.
One time I'd had enough of him being so selfish, and I went off on him. I spoke to him in this condescending tone I use when I'm really pissed. He said I was being crazy and took out his phone to record me. By that time, I had calmed down and was speaking in a normal voice. So he took a two-minute video of him SCREAMING at me that I was just talking normally because he was taking a video, while I sat calmly. Really embarrassing. |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 11:39 PM Author: unhinged tattoo Might be called garnishment or levy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43896680) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:25 PM Author: pearl thriller whorehouse newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894402) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:26 PM Author: Charismatic Sound Barrier you must employ this strategy a lot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894410) |
Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:47 PM Author: Pale Office grow a beard and hide in their bushes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894110) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:47 PM Author: white therapy mfcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894119) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:47 PM Author: coral dashing set queen of the night lawsuit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894115) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:49 PM Author: white therapy I'm def taking him to small claims as a last resort. I sent him a text last weekend saying I had people ready to take him to court if he didn't get me $2000 by May, but the message is unread. I guess I'll text/email/insta the same message now.
Anyway, say we go to court and the court agrees he owes me the amount I claim (which they will). What happens if he can't pay it? |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:53 PM Author: milky police squad If he can't pay it, there's no point in suing him; he's judgment proof. Only sue him if he's making enough money to pay you back. Otherwise you're just wasting your time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894156) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:55 PM Author: white therapy Well, I think he'll be able to pay it back, just not right away. He's making decent money as a bartender at a popular spot. Can the court tell him he has to pay like $X amount per month? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894167) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 10:38 PM Author: arrogant ungodly athletic conference field He probably has 300k in tax free cash and 2k in his bank account. ljl at you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43896401) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:26 PM Author: pearl thriller whorehouse newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894409) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:10 PM Author: trip grizzly feces Sounds like she illegally evicted him. Probably treble damages for him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894288) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:11 PM Author: white therapy False. Abundant, unambiguous evidence to prove this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894293) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:11 PM Author: Charismatic Sound Barrier lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894294) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:50 PM Author: lavender mood Break his fucking fingers. One finger for each $1,000, then a thumb for interest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894137) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:50 PM Author: white therapy lmfao only on xo... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894138) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:12 PM Author: Sepia Site only cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894304) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:26 PM Author: pearl thriller whorehouse newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894411) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:28 PM Author: glittery pit gay wizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894432) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:28 PM Author: Passionate garrison kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894440) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:39 PM Author: Pale Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894526) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 7:06 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Bistre Idea He Suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897755) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:53 PM Author: Charismatic Sound Barrier i think i know a guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894157) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:54 PM Author: Chest-beating fiercely-loyal space giraffe tell him you will deduct $200 for every time he tops you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894162) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:55 PM Author: white therapy he IS gay tbf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894170) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:58 PM Author: Charismatic Sound Barrier any particular reason you let blacks and gays rip you off. you are like the worst jew possible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894197) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 6:04 PM Author: Aromatic Boistinker Yeah man imagine marrying a jew and getting this product as your daughter? Rather marry a normal whore from xoxlandia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43895036) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:56 PM Author: white therapy Here's what I messaged and texted:
"hey [asshole], i've tried to be reasonable but i haven't heard from you in a while and it's been months since i've received any payment. i'm willing to give you until the end of april to pay me at least $2k and we can negotiate future payments. but unfortunately, if i don't receive that money, i have people ready to take you to court. i really don't want it to come to that so please take this seriously." |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 11:20 PM Author: lime massive skinny woman half-breed [asshole] showing ur msg to all his friends, they all get a good LOL about this cucked fag screeching (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43896571) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 3:57 PM Author: tan range "Pay me my fucking money, Jimmy. Where is my fucking money."
*OP furiously pulls down Jimmy's levi jeans*
*Blows him to completion*
"You better have my money next time, bitch " |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:03 PM Author: violent insecure property party of the first part Hire a shitlawyer to confess judgment on his behalf, then request a writ of garnishment from the court to be served on his new employer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894235) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:03 PM Author: Charismatic Sound Barrier i heard tsinah could use the work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894240) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:26 PM Author: pearl thriller whorehouse newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894416) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:38 PM Author: Charismatic Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894521) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:08 PM Author: white therapy edit: This is what I was hoping I could do! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894282) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:14 PM Author: cyan appetizing school cafeteria mad-dog skullcap Small claims. Then get a writ of fieri facias and go to the sheriff's office. The sheriff will go with you to your roommate's house and you can load up his furniture and electronics and sell them at auction on the courthouse steps. Then you get paid from the proceeds. Enjoy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894316) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:19 PM Author: white therapy Prob flame but I would do this WITHOUT REMORSE. He doesn't have that many belongings and I doubt any of his furniture is worth anything, but I'd be happy to sell his phone and Xbox. After ripping me off, he'd deserve it. 😤😤
His parents are well-off so it's not like he'd be super fucked or anything even if I literally sold all his shit lmao |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:24 PM Author: cyan appetizing school cafeteria mad-dog skullcap Not flame. You can literally take all his light bulbs if you want. And sometimes the money he says he doesn't have magically shows up when he's about to be sleeping on the floor in the dark.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fieri_facias |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:25 PM Author: white therapy Thank!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894407) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:24 PM Author: Charismatic Sound Barrier "even my buttplug?" "especially the buttplug." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894395) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 7:08 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Bistre Idea He Suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897757) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:26 PM Author: violent insecure property party of the first part Sounds like you should start with self-help distraint of the phone and xbox before bothering the court and sheriff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894413) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:27 PM Author: Charismatic Sound Barrier hahahaha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894420) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:27 PM Author: white therapy crrrr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894427) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:28 PM Author: pearl thriller whorehouse newt I know an attorney who got sued by a scumbag & he countersued for defamation and won. Then, he brought the judgment to the sheriff's office and took *everything*, including his clothes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894436) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:30 PM Author: white therapy 180,000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894463) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:31 PM Author: Charismatic Sound Barrier i guess its not really a toupee (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894473) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 6:56 AM Author: Sepia Site (reading comprehension mastesrman) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897747) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 10:27 PM Author: marvelous mediation plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43896362) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 10:28 PM Author: thirsty puce headpube menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43896369) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:40 PM Author: Pale Office Just had the "Writ of Guy Fieri Facias" at the XO Cafe would recommend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894530) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:41 PM Author: white therapy lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894535) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 11:06 PM Author: pearl thriller whorehouse newt Come to Orlando sometime (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43896527) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:10 AM Author: Rose prole gaping Pathetic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897171) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 4:58 PM Author: pearl thriller whorehouse newt ?
I have a hot organic gf |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:14 PM Author: Dead dragon tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894319) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:20 PM Author: Charismatic Sound Barrier can someone bump the thread from the last time she needed to sue a roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894357) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:26 PM Author: dark blood rage kick his ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894417) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:28 PM Author: coral dashing set queen of the night this is the box tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894429) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 4:30 PM Author: Charismatic Sound Barrier bitch has been in jail for judo. she just has to want it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894460) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 5:16 PM Author: Beady-eyed Hall Famous Landscape Painting Sounds like a statute of frauds bar exam hypo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894770) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 5:45 PM Author: exhilarant halford macaca Neither a borrower nor a lender be, For loan oft loses both itself and friend, And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry [thrift]. |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 6:09 PM Author: costumed talented nursing home One of my old roommates fucked me over for a much smaller amount. I ran flame on her by suing small claims and no showing for the hearing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43895060) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 11:33 PM Author: white therapy I'm deadass gonna distrain his Xbox now that I learned I can do that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43896647) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 11:33 PM Author: Contagious pearly cuckold Just file in small claims. In CA at least its anything under 10k last time I checked. Filing fee shld be minimal. Dont be a dumb faggot though, this was stupid to do. Trust no one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43896650) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 11:36 PM Author: white therapy Yeah, looks like that's what I'll have to do. I just learned about "distraint", so I'm optimistic.
I know I was an idiot :((( |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 11:39 PM Author: Contagious pearly cuckold just get a small claims judgment against the stupid faggot then garnish his wages and bank account, there shld be info online on how to do it urself
there shldnt be an issue that theres no sublease covering all the payments |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 11:42 PM Author: white therapy Thanks, TT. That's reassuring. Wish me luck... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43896694) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2022 11:52 PM Author: Internet-worthy library Seems like a weird combination of incredibly prole problem but relatively high dollar amount. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43896731) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:05 AM Author: white therapy I'm not a prole, but he kind of is, and that's all on him; I get the impression his parents are well-off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897346) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 12:43 PM Author: Internet-worthy library "i'm not a prole" u lisp, 35 years old and trying to recover rent money from ur deadbeat roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43899112) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:31 PM Author: Adventurous Self-centered Address devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43899707) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:14 AM Author: Autistic piazza messiness what do? pick better friends (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897180) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:04 AM Author: white therapy Yeah... I definitely need to stop ignoring red flags (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897341) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:09 AM Author: Autistic piazza messiness they are hard to spot when you are wearing red glasses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897349) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:11 AM Author: white therapy cr. I put wayyyyyy too much trust in people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897353) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:15 AM Author: burgundy pisswyrm I would just outsource your claim to collections or some shit and be done with it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897185) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:20 AM Author: Crawly galvanic meetinghouse personal credit line Just show up to his house tomorrow with a camera and let him start a scene (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897381) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 3:24 AM Author: white therapy I assume you read about the vid above? Ugh that would be hilarious. And he WOULD.
I don't know where he lives now, but he works three blocks away from my apartment. My bf is excited at the prospect of serving him, if it comes to that. |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 7:04 AM Author: swashbuckling stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43897752) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:05 PM Author: white therapy 5'5 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43899545) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 12:44 PM Author: Vigorous preventive strike faggot firefighter Move on with your life, immediately, and make better decisions next time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43899117) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 12:48 PM Author: 180 chartreuse degenerate doctorate $8k is a lot of money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43899130) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:05 PM Author: white therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43899546) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:21 PM Author: Vigorous preventive strike faggot firefighter No it's not, but in any regard, you're not getting it back. What are you going to do, sue him? What are you going to execute that judgement against? Do you even know where he is to serve him?
Don't lend money to shady people. |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:22 PM Author: white therapy Yes, gonna sue him and have his wages garnished and his Xbox distrained (the latter out of spite) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43899661) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:24 PM Author: Laughsome charcoal milk cr
even if you don't recover anything, the emotional stress you put him under by suing him makes it worthwhile |
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Date: February 3rd, 2022 2:29 PM Author: white therapy And maybe he'll learn his lesson about using people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43899697) |