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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:08 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage Kaitlyn Younger has been an academic standout since she started studying algebra in third grade.
She took her first advanced-placement course as a freshman, scored 1550 on her SATs as a junior at McKinney High School near Dallas and will graduate this spring with an unweighted 3.95 grade-point average and as the founder of the school’s accounting club. Along the way she performed in and directed about 30 plays, sang in the school choir, scored top marks on the tests she has so far taken for 11 advanced-placement classes, helped run a summer camp and held down a part-time job.
“She is extraordinary,” said Jeff Cranmore, her guidance counselor at McKinney High School.
Ms. Younger, 18 years old, was cautiously optimistic when she applied to top U.S. colleges last fall. Responses came this month: Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Brown, Cornell, University of Pennsylvania, University of Southern California, University of California, Berkeley, and Northwestern all rejected her.
“I expected a bunch wouldn’t accept me,” she said. “I didn’t expect it to be this bad.”
The responses are part of a wave of rejections swamping top students who applied to many highly selective schools during the most competitive year on record. Now, students have until May 1 to let schools know where they will attend.
At Harvard University, the latest acceptance rate is 3.2%. PHOTO: ADAM GLANZMAN/BLOOMBERG NEWS Harvard received a record 61,220 applications during the current admissions year and accepted 1,954 (3.2%). Brown received a record 50,649 applications and offered admission to 2,546 (5%). Yale received 50,015 applications and admitted 2,234 (4.5%). University of California, Los Angeles, received a record 149,700 applications, 10,000 more than last year; the school’s acceptance rate wasn’t available.
A reason applications were so inflated is because more than three-quarters of colleges and universities have stopped mandating entrance exams. With that barrier removed, more students tried their luck at selective schools that placed greater emphasis on grades, academic rigor and racial and socio-economic diversity.
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High volume means admissions officers at some elite colleges spend just a few minutes reviewing individual applications. This places enormous pressure on students to stand out, and not just among their own high-school classmates.
Nearly 55,000 students applied to the University of Pennsylvania—about 15,000 more than applied two years ago. Many applications contained “national and international accolades for research that is already pushing the boundaries of academic discovery,” wrote Whitney Soule, vice provost and dean of admissions on the school’s website.
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For students such as Ms. Younger, the odds are particularly long. She is a middle-class white female from a public high school in Texas who wants to study business. Each characteristic places her in an overrepresented group, said Sara Harberson, a former admission officer at University of Pennsylvania and now a private college-admissions counselor.
Kaitlyn Younger applied her stage makeup before rehearsing 'Sweeney Todd' in Plano, Texas. Nearly half of white students admitted to Harvard between 2009 and 2014 were recruited athletes, legacy students, children of faculty and staff, or on the dean’s interest list—applicants whose parents or relatives have donated to Harvard, according to a 2019 study published in the National Bureau of Economic Research.
At Harvard, low-income students with top academic scores had an admit rate of 24% compared to 15% for all other applicants, according to a 2013 study by the school. Harvard has said it believes enrolling a diverse student body is important because the school wants students to learn to work with people from different backgrounds.
“The middle class tends to get a little bit neglected,” said Hafeez Lakhani, a private college counselor in New York who charges $1,200 an hour. “Twenty years ago, Ms. Younger would have had a good shot at an Ivy League school.”
Ms. Younger’s father attended the University of Oklahoma and her mother went to Montclair State University in New Jersey. She has no connection to the faculty or alumni at any elite school, nor did she hire a test-preparation coach or a private college counselor.
Her school serves McKinney, Texas, a fast-growing suburb 30 miles outside of Dallas. In a given year, about half of the school’s graduates enroll at four-year colleges; most attend public universities in Texas, Dr. Cranmore said. He recalls two McKinney graduates enrolling at Yale and one at Princeton over the past decade.
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“I don’t know what else she could have done,” he said.
Ms. Younger was exceptionally focused and competitive from an early age, said her mother, Debra Younger.
She is also a self-described perfectionist. At age 7, she began taking medication to calm her anxiety, she said. In middle school, she was the only girl in her advanced math classes. That isolation led to bullying, she added.
A library at the University of Pennsylvania. Nearly 55,000 students applied to the school during the current admissions cycle. PHOTO: HANNAH BEIER FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL During her sophomore year, joint pain and depression exacerbated her anxiety. She enrolled in a two-month, outpatient mental-health program that limited her academic work to two hours a day. Her grades in English and AP World History fell to an 88 and 89, respectively, because she didn’t have time to finish the assigned reading, she said.
COURSE LOADS AND DEBT LOADS The WSJ Guide to Student Loans: Navigating the Myths and Misunderstandings About College Debt (March 18) She was working to improve her marks when the pandemic arrived and the school froze grades during the second semester. She received her first (and only) B’s. They pulled down her GPA. She is now ranked 23rd out of 668, or in the third percentile, she said.
Ms. Younger wrote in the applications about her history of depression and anxiety to explain the two B’s she earned during her sophomore year.
College rejection letters don’t come with a detailed explanation. Schools typically don’t discuss their decisions on individual applications because of privacy rules. The schools that rejected Ms. Younger declined to comment on her application, and most declined to comment on their acceptance rate.
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Jon Burdick, vice provost for enrollment at Cornell, said the school is working to increase its undergraduate population by 1,000, but still doesn’t have enough slots for all the qualified students who apply.
“In the end we know that most of those we couldn’t admit would have been capable of achieving excellence at Cornell, and we regret having to disappoint them,” Mr. Burdick said.
Ms. Younger said she doesn’t know why she was rejected but thinks her two B’s during sophomore year were problematic, along with her demographic profile.
Kaitlyn Younger studied for an advanced-placement class in costume last week, as she took a rehearsal break at a theater in Plano, Texas. Gender also matters. Women now apply to college in much larger numbers than men. Schools seek to maintain gender parity in enrollment, which means young women often face higher standards and greater competition.
Ms. Harberson said Ms. Younger’s accomplishments on the stage at her high school and with her community theater troupe—as well as for the accounting club—were impressive but wouldn’t stand out among Ivy League applicants.
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Of the 12 schools to which Ms. Younger applied, she was wait-listed at Rice University and accepted at the University of Texas, Austin—but not to the business school. She plans on attending Arizona State University to study business on an academic scholarship. The acceptance rate there last year was 88%.
If she had to do high school all over again, Ms. Younger said she would still set high standards for herself and work hard but would try not to stress herself out so much.
“I used to be the kind of person who, if I got a low A, anything lower than a 95, I would be upset with myself because I thought that was the standard for the types of institutions I wanted to attend,” she said. “All that stress was not worth it. I want to do the best I can, but in a way that does not deteriorate my mental health if I struggle.”
Write to Douglas Belkin at doug.belkin@wsj.com
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 3:41 AM Author: honey-headed ticket booth elastic band Women shouldn't be going to college either way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383251) |
Date: April 21st, 2022 12:09 PM Author: flushed station jew Just check AA box and let do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378632) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:44 PM Author: Cream stage I don't know why people don't do this. As an alumni interviewer, i'm given no information on race and told to ignore it completely. There's no "is this person ACTUALLY black" box to check (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379216) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:47 PM Author: Stimulating black goyim Interview notes: "This person clearly grew up with a father figure present in zher life" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379235) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:12 PM Author: obsidian theatre Those schools will collectively admit thousands of students who are objectively worse degree candidates than this person. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378645) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:13 PM Author: Exhilarant rough-skinned parlour Harvard admitted Hogg who struggled to get into third tier state schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378650) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:14 PM Author: adulterous doobsian degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378657) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:17 PM Author: Electric weed whacker macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378665) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:21 PM Author: Cerebral university Not to mention the “I Am Jazz” tranny, Jazz Jennings, né (((Jaron Bloshinsky))) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378687) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:15 PM Author: Exhilarant rough-skinned parlour fuck how did i miss that? that's real. you are not flaming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379031) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:31 PM Author: violent beady-eyed gay wizard patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378731) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 7:22 PM Author: Bearded razzle-dazzle institution Dad in FBI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380867) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 11:30 AM Author: titillating dilemma hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44384689) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2022 5:56 PM Author: azure partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44392455) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:04 PM Author: stirring slate native mother Strong synergy here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378964) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:12 PM Author: Exhilarant rough-skinned parlour white kid from rural america? that comes with a massive discounting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378648) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:32 PM Author: Sinister Step-uncle's House i seem to recall YLS used to give priority to "rural applicants" where it was if their hometown was more than 100 miles from a city over a certain population or something, it's been so long i can't remember (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378733) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:37 PM Author: Big rehab These days it's given to the kid of the owner of the local Chinese restaurant in hicksville. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378772) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:41 PM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol Top schools like to try to get someone from every state, but they only need one, and tiny schools like YLS can only stretch so much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380404) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:49 PM Author: Tan vigorous antidepressant drug sanctuary McKinney is a suburb or at most an exburb. If she was writing her admissions essays about farm chores and had those stats and that transcript she would’ve been a lock, but schools in actual rural areas don’t have teachers to teach 11 APs. She should’ve gone to UT and transferred into the business school, but the bigger problem than the ivies accepting 3% is places like UT accepting 6-7% and turning tons of kids like her away. State flagships should be MOOCing remote learners like a motherfucker and giving out 3x as many degrees but they’re worried it will screw them in USNWR. USNWR needs to be disrupted and displaced by a better ranking system. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378862) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:39 PM Author: Sinister Step-uncle's House Universities that already excel in research shouldn't be fucking around with MOOCs, which is outside their area of expertise. Let non-R1s do that.
Also FWIW UT tried MOOCs and they failed miserably. It turns out that the most important part of a top (state) university is to be physically near other high achievers.
The issue is too many people going to college. You shouldn't need a college degree to do most jobs. Paper pushing didn't suddenly get harder in the 70s. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:30 AM Author: Blathering area The "best" German universities have open enrollment/no limit on students in most programs if you meet the qualifications, because the goal is to maximally educate the population, not restrict it to boost the admin's power and budget. It makes sense. Why should there be a cap on the number of people taking history or math at a university with large lecture halls where they can just schedule another lecture if the class gets too big? German public universities are also free to attend. There's so much about American higher ed that completely misses the mark. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383118) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:54 PM Author: Thriller Translucent Place Of Business McKinney is a suburb of Dallas and has been ranked the best town in America several times over the past ten years. She's not getting any rural bonus points. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378900) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:09 PM Author: heady jet-lagged main people boltzmann She should get bonus points for being for growing up in a desirable place and excelling there. On the other hand she can just go to Texas Tech University or Baylor and be fine. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:03 PM Author: violent beady-eyed gay wizard patrolman Ni hao! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378961) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:42 PM Author: beta base generalized bond McKinney is the county seat of Collin County - a superfast growing suburb of Dallas. One of the safest places in the country to raise a family. Far from being rural, she would have come across as privileged suburban white. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379200) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:13 PM Author: marvelous erotic milk headpube Just do what I did and get in and then do way too much drugs and skip way too many classes and get kicked out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378653) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:13 PM Author: shimmering travel guidebook 1580 guy here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378654) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:33 PM Author: Sinister Step-uncle's House congrats on the lowest SAT on this flash-enabled chatroom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378744) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:06 PM Author: shimmering travel guidebook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378974) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:56 PM Author: ruddy police squad party of the first part (Guy who took SAT when it was out of 2400) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378913) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:07 PM Author: shimmering travel guidebook this is true, but the article gave the score out of 1600. My writing score was 770, my weakest section (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378981) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:15 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space if you're in a state that has those state-wide public magnet schools it's probably a red flag to be at regular public school down the street (if you're white or asian) it's like why should we (H, S, whatever) take you when you probably got dinged from a magnet high school (unless you're black) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:23 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location this is one of those deals where the blessing is the ding. all of us are in our 40s. we know these schools are pointless. the alumni network is way more impotent than people think. the education is not different at all and, if anything, college is LESS pozzed the lower down the rankings you go.
maybe these massive waves of kids since millennials who have seen how rigged this scam is finally wake up to the idea that ivies are faggot and that prestige is bullshit and they figure some new shit out and not inflict this faggotry on those who come after them. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:33 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space it's a nice little halo to have, a shorthand for "i'm smart". most people aren't going to be distinguished enough as a c-level operator or entrepreneur or academic researcher for a nice B.A. from Harvard to not be a cool accessory (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378746) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:35 PM Author: Sinister Step-uncle's House no one i worked with here in texas ever thought "oh H? you're smart"
going to UT for UG is just as valuable, if not moreso, it's 180 |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:05 PM Author: Tan vigorous antidepressant drug sanctuary That’s an exaggeration but directionally correct. Texans see UT, Rice and anything ranked below HYPS and above Baylor as equivalents, and among them UT is the obvious choice bc its more fun and hot chicks go there. And they are essentially right about all of that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378972) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:49 PM Author: Sinister Step-uncle's House more or less, if you're shitlib you think UT > TAMU and if you're pedotile you think TAMU > UT
but basically it's
rice/UT honors programs/TAMU engineering > other UT/TAMU >>> Baylor > SMU/TCU (which are "on Baylor's level" but are kind of seen as places you put your dumbfuck kid if you're rich) >>>> everything else |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:36 PM Author: Big rehab Agreed.
If she's as hard working in her first jobs out of college as in HS, she will do very well in life. Many of the kids going to Ivy this fall will flounder in non profits or soft social services jobs.
The only soft criticism I have for the girl in the article is she wanted to study business, thus ending up at ASU's business school, so why did she apply to the elite Ivies? Penn has Wharton but otherwise what was the point? There are private colleges like Tulane that have decent business programs if that was her goal, and probably a better launching pad into corporate America than coming out of Cornell or Brown or Dartmouth with a liberal arts degree. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:53 PM Author: galvanic center Econ degree from an Ivy crushes some degree in "business" from Tulane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379277) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:56 PM Author: Big rehab I work in the real world and the statement is impossible to quantify.
Let's just say I know more than a few rapidly advancing hotshots at corps like Danaher who came out of Tulane or flagship business schools. They usually got a MBA along the way. At the same time I know more than a few Ivy econ grads who are not doing as well as you might think. Most are fine, but not raking in the advancements and salaries and bonuses.
Top 10% ivy outcome is genuinely impressive. The bulk end up materially comfortable. This girl will do fine if she has a strong work ethic and some direction. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 7:26 PM Author: Bearded razzle-dazzle institution xo 2004: afraid I won't get jerb w/o ivy
xo 2024: only interested in talking to anyone from three or four schools, only one t14, zero ivy. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:08 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Grizzly Range nobody actually wants to "study business," they just want to get good jobs out of college (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382177) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:11 PM Author: marvelous erotic milk headpube Counterpoint: if you were smart enough to hack HS but lacked the drive to do well in college and have problems w/ impulse control, even being a HYP dropout opens doors that you probably should've never gotten like me
I don't think I would've done well in BIGSTATEU either tbh as long as I have the freedom to skip class and play beer pong on a monday afternoon |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:28 PM Author: adulterous doobsian degenerate the counterpoint is that it's easier to stand out in those schools. AZN kid who went to my high school but lived in another, more AZN town (his parents rented a room in my town) had this gamed back then- was val of our class and he most certainly wouldnt have been at his real town's school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378712) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:34 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space Texas has a STEM high school on the campus of/in partnership with UNT, she probably would've gotten into some random Ivy if she got her same stats there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378754) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:41 PM Author: adulterous doobsian degenerate harder to be top of your class at a school like that, and these magnet schools arent like Andover where the top half of the class gets autoadmit to top schools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378800) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:44 PM Author: Sinister Step-uncle's House yeah average TAMS alumnus goes to a Texas public (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378831) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:17 PM Author: Stimulating black goyim jfc do all that to ned up at ASU? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378668) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:19 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location i didnt even finish reading it. i stopped at "she was taking anxiety meds at 7". she ended up as arizona state? i hope she has an awesome time and figures out that was a lot of bullshit she went thru. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378677) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:30 PM Author: Out-of-control hairraiser business firm Truly sad. But with 11 APs, assuming ASU gives you credit (3-6 depending on the AP) she may be able to grad in 2.5 years if that is her goal.
OTOH it sounds like she realized she f***ed up by being a striver and is looking for a chill laid back college experience so maybe ASU as a party school isn't a bad outcome for her. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:41 PM Author: adulterous doobsian degenerate she probably got into some sort of honors college program with $$$ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378806) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:44 PM Author: Floppy crawly national agree with ted, this was a blessing. No need for an ivy education for her life. she can go get her shit dream job at E&Y with no debt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378829) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:49 PM Author: adulterous doobsian degenerate i mean if she went to HYPS she probably wouldve ended up in ibanking or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378861) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:52 PM Author: Floppy crawly national exactly. this person has a shot at happiness and not completely destroying her life through the ivy prestige rat face race. it sounds like shes lacking creativity and judgment. she'd be miserable ay HYPS and just another depressed ibank goon |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:57 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space protip: she will learn nothing re: ratrace, and head to ibanking after her Wharton MBA she'll end up in the same exact spot except maybe 30-40% lower pay because she's not in PE like the HUG people |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:07 PM Author: Floppy crawly national shell go to ASU with cocktail waitresses sitting in her "business" classes. She'll get some garbage job at deloitte and have no chance of Wharton. maybe thunderbird. she'll be working 40 hour a week traveling thru TSA precheck with sensible shoes to give presentation on supply chain management to Pert+ executives in Montgomery. Again, best case scenario for someone like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378979) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:09 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space I might order some Pert Plus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378996) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:14 PM Author: Big rehab It's been close to 20 years but at Wharton there were plenty of MBA students out of the flagship state universities. And out of Deloitte.
But we'll see ;) She could easily flame out.
Someone should bookmark her name and periodically report back every few years with a summary of her progress.
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:18 PM Author: Stimulating black goyim nothign wrong with that life bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379053) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:05 PM Author: Floppy crawly national id be curious how anything in this chain indicated i thought it was (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380223) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2022 6:01 PM Author: azure partner PreCheck is great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44392471) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:28 PM Author: Pontificating Ungodly Regret Digit Ratio remember the harvard chick who lost her deloittte job with that tiktok video. it wasn't even management consulting iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380346) |
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you seem to know a lot about hahvahd chicks |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:22 PM Author: Pontificating Ungodly Regret Digit Ratio in her own words
https://cjanover.medium.com/what-happened-to-claira-janover-3dc16768b461 |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 12:11 PM Author: Provocative vermilion factory reset button stag film oh shoot, i meant what is GJR up to. forgot to write that part. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44384949) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:44 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space no point graduating faster to end up at a shittier first job if she's on the bizness wagecuck path she's not really in the clear until she's like 30 she'll probably begin striving for mba admissions soon |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:51 PM Author: Metal Fluffy Stead going to fuck big black cocks every chance she gets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378884) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:39 PM Author: pale wild deer antler we have a famous xoxo alum who ended up #1 there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380636) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:18 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location anyone steering their kid in this direction does so completely on notice of the perils. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378672) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:32 PM Author: violent beady-eyed gay wizard patrolman cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378735) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:22 PM Author: Cerebral university All that bullshit to become an accountant…? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378690) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:26 PM Author: Floppy crawly national She's a drug addict who gets bullied for being a striver dork. Good for admit committees to see thru this bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378703) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:42 PM Author: violent beady-eyed gay wizard patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378811) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:46 PM Author: beta base generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379229) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:25 PM Author: misunderstood arrogant yarmulke Ivy Leagues have become completely infiltrated and corrupted.
She is at a huge disadvantage because she probably does not know the appropriate woke sociolect - tantamount to a thieves cant'- that is cultivated and taught in elite high schools which is necessary to work into your essays and interviews now if you have any hope of advancing.
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:26 PM Author: adulterous doobsian degenerate article literally mentions she talks about having anxiety, and mental illness is a lib approved ailment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378705) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:29 PM Author: Sinister Step-uncle's House you don't get in from an elite school using a sociolect; you get in by your elite school's admissions officer calling their grad school fuckbuddy on harvard's adcom
the entire point of the article is that without standard admissions there's no time to actually think about each application carefully; elite schools get around this by drawing attention to specific applicants |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:50 PM Author: Tan vigorous antidepressant drug sanctuary Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378882) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:54 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378903) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:52 PM Author: Metal Fluffy Stead the appropriate woke sociolect tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378889) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:31 PM Author: misunderstood arrogant yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379478) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:28 PM Author: Sinister Step-uncle's House seems like one issue is she performed in 30 plays and then announced to the adcom that she wanted to spend her life doing a job that has nothing to do with that
another is probably being stupid enough to apply to a university that costs half a million to attend just to become an E&Y paper pusher
none of this matters anyway, if libs have destroyed H as OP implies, that is a good thing, as no institution should have such a stranglehold on power
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:32 PM Author: violent beady-eyed gay wizard patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378742) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:42 PM Author: Big rehab I did notice this discrepancy. With tens of thousands of great applicants rejected you can nitpick every single one to pieces to find the reason.
Friends of my parents have a grandkid at Penn (the oldest grandkids of their set of friends) was a major theater girl in HS and is studying theatre at Penn and, according to her grandparents, wants to work on Broadway as a producer. Regardless of what life actually has in store for her (law school probably) at least it makes sense.
The girl in the article was a major theatre kid but it didn't seem like it was reflected in her application especially as she's ending up at a business school. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 7:52 PM Author: Bistre histrionic lay affirmative action I ASK YOU SIR, ARE WE ALL NOT BUT PLAY-ACTORS IN THE GRAND THEATRE OF LIFE? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381014) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:30 PM Author: lake house sound barrier What a joke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378723) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:40 PM Author: Sinister Step-uncle's House snip (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378794) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:33 PM Author: hyperventilating peach tanning salon puppy Lmao at thinking this would help your application:
Ms. Younger wrote in the applications about her history of depression and anxiety to explain the two B’s she earned during her sophomore year. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:42 PM Author: adulterous doobsian degenerate (time traveler from 1976)
the system openly encourages kids to have mental issues, be LGBT, be oppressed, etc to score points. that was probably the most convincing part of her app |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:57 PM Author: Tan vigorous antidepressant drug sanctuary This is bullshit they say to justify how “complex” their scoring system is to measure diversity of candidates. In reality an adcom looks at it just like a prospective employer would. “Oh so you couldn’t hack high school and fell apart? Sounds like you’re a big risk to have a breakdown in college and drop out when on top of your courseload you won’t have mommy and daddy cooking your meals, cleaning your house and booking your doctors appointments. Dingfag.” My niece had a way more sympathetic medical issue and better grades and scores anyway, and had way better ECs and she got pwn3d and had to attend a second tier public ug (where she finished in three years with a 4.0 bc of all her APs). A black app isn’t taking about mental health? Sure that’s a plus, but you had us at test scores and grades within 1-2 SDs of our medians. A white MC applicant is just giving them a reason to pass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378926) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:07 PM Author: adulterous doobsian degenerate she had a 3.95 GPA. she used the anxiety shit to talk about how she got a whopping TWO b's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378977) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 12:37 AM Author: aromatic demanding casino It was high school. Any decent applicant doesn't have any B's in high school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382717) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:25 PM Author: Floppy crawly national no. being mentally ill bc you were raped by your white father is cr. being mentally ill because you couldn't handle getting a B at a school with no super study asians is an instant ding. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 3:54 PM Author: Tan vigorous antidepressant drug sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379874) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:04 PM Author: marvelous erotic milk headpube They want oppressed LGBT but not suicidal girls who's going to jump off the Payne Whitney Gym and make national headlines
They want their diversity stats, not a potential liability |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:44 PM Author: obsidian theatre (Admissions counselor, rolling her eyes and muttering 'fucking EVERYONE HERE is mentally ill, try standing out' before crumpling up the application and tossing it over her shoulder into the wastebasket) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378830) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:31 PM Author: stirring slate native mother Most personal statements are really a way for applicants to relay their personal adversities to try to convince the admissions lady that they deserve a break. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379133) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:34 PM Author: poppy orchestra pit trump supporter After setting aside all of the spots for affirmative action admits, legacies, athletes, and kids of major donors, how many spots are left for cis-gendered, straight whites and Asians? 5-10%? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378752) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:42 PM Author: coral passionate piazza doctorate The non-Jewish portion of the white part of that remainder is like .5% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378812) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:43 PM Author: Mischievous know-it-all dysfunction public bath LJL at anyone who applies to ivies without checking the tranny box these days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378824) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:50 PM Author: flesh theater stage I interview students for MIT and can't figure out what gets them in other than being smart and black. A smart black kid is golden. Over the past 3 years I am batting 1/30 (the smart black kid), plus 2/30 on the wait list. Getting on the wait list is useless. The best student (IMO) I interviewed got waitlisted and picked Caltech. White male, of course. You have to wonder what the overall college feedstock is really like. I looked up my old high school the other day. 96% grad rate but 4% math proficiency and 28% reading proficiency. How does that work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378870) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:43 PM Author: twinkling cowardly nursing home I went to caltech for 2 years before transferring to Harvard. I've been an alumni interviewer for years and seen the same thing. The very best candidates I interviewed were not admitted but every qualified minority was. I started encouraging my interviewees to apply other places. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379203) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:53 PM Author: flesh theater stage Now there is a culture change! Comments on Caltech ug experience vs H? I sort of adjuncted there for 5 years but the students were mostly grads/post docs/corporate CE types. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379598) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:51 PM Author: twinkling cowardly nursing home I thought the caltech undergrads were smarter (i.e. better problem solvers) but the Harvard kids were more ambitious and had better social skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381319) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:06 PM Author: Provocative vermilion factory reset button stag film Not quite as fancy as MIT and Harvard, but I've stopped interviewing for my alma mater now. After 0/20. Most I felt were mediocre and a waste of everyone's time. But there were maybe one or two very exceptional candidates that the adcom didn't take, which was frustrating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379351) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 3:52 PM Author: Big rehab Same here. I stopped interviewing for my Ivy alma mater. No one was getting in. No one. Not even the genuinely bright and interesting kids. Most were dull. It became a chore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379865) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 12:12 PM Author: Provocative vermilion factory reset button stag film and the ones they were taking were definitely AA admits and woke shitlibs. the university is lost. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44384954) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:58 PM Author: Thriller Translucent Place Of Business The real question is what would she gain from going to one of these schools? She can go to UT for free and then go to one of the many public medical schools in Texas and become a chill dermatologist. Or if she wants to be an accounTTTant, the UT business school is as good as Harvard in Texas.
Even though Austin is a TTT shitlib town in decline, she's far more likely to come out of four years of UT free from liberal brainwashing than she would be coming out of an ivy. So all around, this is a win.
Also, why the fuck would an instate Texan pick USC over UT? |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:07 PM Author: Cerebral university Of the 12 schools to which Ms. Younger applied, she was wait-listed at Rice University and accepted at the University of Texas, Austin—but not to the business school. She plans on attending Arizona State University to study business on an academic scholarship. The acceptance rate there last year was 88%. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378982) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:10 PM Author: Thriller Translucent Place Of Business I meant for an MBA after undergrad. But reading this I am fairly sure her application had some major red flags. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379004) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:16 PM Author: Big rehab Probably.
But it's also possible she didn't apply wisely. No Vanderbilts, CMU, WUSTL on her list. Only Rice.
If I had a kid with her stats I'd have pushed them to apply early to Vandy or CMU or Rice. And I'm an Ivy legacy. Too much of a crapshoot. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:17 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Grizzly Range no reason to go to any of those schools over texas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382248) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:59 PM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol Why the fuck would UG "business school" be competitive? Not enough PPT licenses to go around? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380466) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:18 PM Author: Pontificating Ungodly Regret Digit Ratio idk, why is wharton competitive but upenn nursing isn't?
haas, mccombs, ross, etc. are all well known ugrad b-schools that grads can get competitive banking / consulting roles straight out of school. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:23 PM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol Making programs within a university competitive is a mark of weakness. Stanford isn't running around limiting CS admissions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380586) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:50 PM Author: Pontificating Ungodly Regret Digit Ratio most of these are state schools with mandatory autoadmits for students that meet x,y,z criteria. in texas, it used to be anyone in the t10% of their class. they HAVE to carve out their best programs so that dequisha from houston and manuel from el paso don't waltz into the halo programs. in california, community colleges like deanza and shit backdoor into berkeley and ucla; if they didn't separate haas and engineering programs they'd be fucked as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380680) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:59 PM Author: chocolate diverse hell I’m old but can’t you just:
1. Check an AA box even if it’s a lie? Who is verifying?
2. Transfer to a better school as a sophomore? I did after blowing off HS. I don’t think anyone in admissions is fretting about the incoming profile of the transfers? |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:04 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space her name isn't black, her zip code isn't black, they could call her school and ask if she's black
there's not much better you can transfer up to, the Harvard type schools don't take a lot of standard strivers they dinged the first time around, they want vets, people who did something very different then came back to do community college at 30, minorities again, etc. A good percentage is varsity athletes too
She can probably get up to like Vanderbilt or Amherst or something with some luck and a 4.0 |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:06 PM Author: Stimulating black goyim why can you identify as another gender but another race if they are all constructs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378975) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:08 PM Author: adulterous doobsian degenerate most top schools dont take transfers, and those that to do are uber competitive about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44378985) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:11 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space "competitive" in the sense of rejecting 400 4.00 super study azns from Rice and UT for a Cuban HS dropout from Miami Dade College (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379009) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:52 PM Author: Magical mind-boggling roommate Columbia literally has hordes of community college transfers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379589) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:19 PM Author: khaki spot School of General Studies, not the college. The college only replaces people who drop out, transfer to other schools, die, etc. It’s very, very hard to get into as a transfer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381150) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:09 PM Author: mahogany set Many applications contained “national and international accolades for research that is already pushing the boundaries of academic discovery,” wrote Whitney Soule, vice provost and dean of admissions on the school’s website.
Many applications contained “national and international accolades for research that is already pushing the boundaries of academic discovery,” wrote Whitney Soule, vice provost and dean of admissions on the school’s website.
Many applications contained “national and international accolades for research that is already pushing the boundaries of academic discovery,” wrote Whitney Soule, vice provost and dean of admissions on the school’s website. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:14 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location lol this was easily the most standout line. i just laughed this the fuck off.
"the cutting edge" of scholarship coming out of bergen county academies. lmao. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:24 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space the only research HS kids do that PhD students or above wouldn't snicker at is math shit where they usually publish a tiny contribution to something that's considered a backwater field or a small extension to something that probably a few dozen people worked out before but didn't build enough for a new paper around it all the bio type shit is nepotism / becoming the 20th name on the paper for manual work |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:32 PM Author: stirring slate native mother Yep, somehow spending 10 weeks in a lab annoying the shit out of a post-doc in your dad's buddy's lab is somehow seen as really important. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379148) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:10 PM Author: mahogany set And even those small contributions are done by a dozen kids a year. Penn isnt getting flooded with their apps (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379933) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:33 PM Author: laughsome chrome market fat ankles This shit always got me. You’d see these kids applying with ridiculous research credentials – who can even do that? The amount of connections and access you’d need to have to do some of these research projects is ridiculous. I did stupid shit like tagged along a college professor’s research project and was hired part time as a lab worker, but these kids are base editing DNA and stuff like that. It’s insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380615) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:10 PM Author: Boyish Rambunctious Jewess Abode All these highly intelligent + driven white kids will get dinged by the Ivies, forego lib indoctrination, and dominate at their state schools, never once forgetting that they were fucked over by BIG ED due to the color of their skin. Minorities on the other hand will end up overwhelmed and overmatched at Ivies, but end up coasting in life b/c of the color of their skin. Eventually libs will reap the whirlwind they've created. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379001) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:16 PM Author: Stimulating black goyim inshallah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379040) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:53 PM Author: Electric weed whacker macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379275) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:09 PM Author: ruddy police squad party of the first part Some, but unfortunately a lot of them will become shitlibs anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379375) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:24 PM Author: Mischievous know-it-all dysfunction public bath It's true. Bet that this girl will somehow end up blaming "the patriarchy" for holding her back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379440) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:36 PM Author: Bearded razzle-dazzle institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379497) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:45 PM Author: poppy orchestra pit trump supporter Wrong. Lib indoctrination is equally great at the state schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380114) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:10 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage all this discussion and not one mention of libs eliminating standardized test requirements which have directly led to the massive increase in applications. ucla getting 150k applications is absolutely insane, when i applied it was around 50k iirc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379003) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:13 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location i applied right around the time the common application started getting some traction. most of the ivies didn't take it, but a lot of good schools did. and you could see that the net effect of the common app was schools were getting artificially low acceptance rates. something on the scale of half the previous year doing a regular selective app. i imagine dropping standardized test scores not only had the same effect but also allowed ad comms to go FULL anti-chink/white without any repercussion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379021) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:15 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage yep. also if you're a pessimist like i am it's hard not to marvel at the timing of schools dropping these requirements just as word was getting out on college and student debt being fucking flame. you want to badmouth us? well we're gonna open the spigots for another decade or two and devalue your degree in the process, fag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379037) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:20 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location "we use a more...winsome approach now to putting a class together that is more reflective of the general population", said Xoxthil Osorio-Finkelman, the student rep at Yale office of admissions, regarding Yale's recording breaking 37% trans latinx incoming class of 2029. Osorio-Finkelman, the current president of GLAD TRANSLATINX FLUID, will be persuing doctor at Oxford in gender studies as a rhodes scholar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379059) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:25 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage are kids are fucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379099) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:30 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location not at all. just absolutely DO NOT steer them that way.
my wife and i have been talking about options when schooling gets weird and they try to teach this tranny shit to our kids. one option on the table is homeschooling. she already stays home so it's a strong option and one she puts at the top. she's ready at any moment to pull the trigger on this.
i've thought about this a ton and there is another option. some think it's be the parents who argue and yell at the school board, and that's fine, but it's still a bit impotent.
here is what i think is the answer: teach your kids to fucking rebel in class. when this tranny shit comes up, let them purposely become the class pains in the ass. let them fail tests on purpose and put real answers in. full blown fuck this unit, idgaf if i get a 0, it's all a lie. if we teach our kids to not gaf when lies are taught to them and to rebel in class. raise your hand and say NO out loud. blurt out. fuck it. that will cause more traction. it's not about parents. they want the KIDS to accept it. so teach THEM not to and make it hard to even do it in class. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:45 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage if that's the case why send them to school to begin with, raise your rebellious kids at home and put them in sports
for most of us school is a means to an end and/or homeschooling isn't an option |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:47 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location i started another thread about this. i think its worth talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379237) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:20 PM Author: Wonderful azn hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379427) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 10:57 PM Author: Blathering area On my phone so can't type much but I grew up with a shockingly based dad who gave me a couple of key "talks" starting in middle school about lib indoctrination from teachers and for the remainder of my academic career I was immune to it. It didn't take much. If you build deep trust and rapport with your kids and then explain to them that teachers are generally okay on math and gym class but that if they start talking about "he can be a she" and vice versa to just ignore it, your kids will get it and will trust you 1000x more than the teachers. When kids get shitlibbed it's because they don't trust their parents or because their parents are also shitlibbed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382096) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:32 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location feels credited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382353) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:23 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Grizzly Range "my wife and i have been talking about options when schooling gets weird and they try to teach this tranny shit to our kids."
only way to survive this without homeschooling is to live in a culturally conservative town. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:33 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location i was explaining to a friend that i live in a blue dog town. very conservative socially and honestly the only reason it's blue is because "republicans hate minorities" when in everything else it's conservative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382357) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:48 PM Author: Gay psychic rigpig “Xoxthil Osorio-Finkelman”
Her internationally recognized research on higher-functioning inflatable penises was revelatory. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:13 PM Author: Floppy crawly national thats the real point of the article dude.
no one is even looking at a rando texas white chick |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:14 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379028) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:16 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage exactly. feel bad for her. that is a ton of work to go to fucking asu (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379039) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:28 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space she's not going to ASU like most kids are going to ASU. did you go to your undergrad prepared the same way with the same tools etc as the valedictorian who's a tenured prof at an R1 university right now? probably not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379117) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:41 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage the difference is my classmates and i were smarter than the drug addicts and future waitresses that make up asu's class. 88% acceptance rate? are you fucking kidding me, this girl got robbed and she should be incensed to end up at asu. caliber of your classmates matters, assuming she stays in finance/accounting and remains ambitious she's gonna basically need to get a HSW MBA now whereas she wouldn't need an mba at all if she ended up at a good school to begin with (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379193) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:54 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space you think way too little of the average finance washout who does 2 years in ibanking then goes to tech or sticks it out in sellside or does whatever random shit if you think some vanilla ~120 iq white girl just needs one HYP letter to potentially be a VP at Warburg or Apollo or some shit
she didn't get into McCombs much less HYP and you're alluding to top-3%-of-HYP outcomes |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:12 PM Author: Thriller Translucent Place Of Business Lots of pics if you google her name + McKInney.
https://www.facebook.com/McKinneyHS/photos/a.2092661930781091/4687705041276754/?type=3 |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:13 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space "accounting club" and "hours of community service" seems like very out-of-style, got-into-Cornell-in-2003-type shit this is all part of the sociolect refunk talked about, knowing what shit to do and what not to do |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:17 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space and how does she look any different from this girl who wants to go to xo-TTTs
https://www.facebook.com/McKinneyHS/photos/a.2092661930781091/4680501601997098 |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:21 PM Author: Thriller Translucent Place Of Business This chick looks like a wholesome Christian conservahero who will go to a conservahero school on the cheap, marry a conservative Christian Chad, and become an M.D., working three 12 hours shifts per week, raising her kids the rest of the time. Sounds 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379074) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:34 PM Author: adulterous doobsian degenerate "Plans to study business or economics" at Brown or Stanford. ok maybe she shouldnt have gotten into either school if she doesnt know that 'business' is not a major offered at any ivy except for Penn-Wharton (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379157) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:39 PM Author: Stimulating black goyim stfu jjc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379183) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:41 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space Cornell's AEM/Dyson is a business school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379188) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:42 PM Author: Cerebral university Don’t Wharton grads get a degree in “economics” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379535) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:50 PM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol The move away from the excellent, well rounded student was already in motion in the late 90s. For all that work she did, she didn't put nearly enough into figuring out how admissions work.
And that may print to a serious flaw. She's just a worker bee who couldn't even be bothered to figure out the game at a basic level. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:14 PM Author: Floppy crawly national sad this chick is clueless. i hope she makes it at ASU (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379029) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:20 PM Author: Thriller Translucent Place Of Business Yes, this seems like a failure on the part of her parents and admissions counselor. She should have started a charity to provide renewable energy to trans folk in Africa or some shit like that rather than doing accounting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379064) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:11 PM Author: Big rehab I reread the article and have a better sense of who this girl is. She's a clueless middle class white girl in a middle class Texas suburb. She has *no idea* what the world of elite colleges is like or how to game for it or how to apply strategically.
Look at the list of colleges she applied to: these are all big name colleges she probably picked because they're mentioned in magazines or somewhere in pop culture. USC and Berkeley and Harvard and Brown and whatever. That's their common factor. They're hugely popular for different reasons. She was applying to the concept of a highly sought after college, not the reality.
A UMC kid from a fancy Dallas suburb and elite high school like Hockaday or Highland Park would have applied strategically, which would likely mean ED at Vanderbilt or CMU or Tufts or WUSTL or JHU, or if she can't apply ED for financial reasons, include schools like Tulane on the list. If she wanted a quasi-Ivy mystique, include LACs like Amherst, Bowdoin, and Wellesley. Wellesley manages to retain an elite status in the world of consulting recruiting and iBanking. I'm sure she didn't considered Barnard, a decent back door to Columbia and NYC.
All the elite colleges get thousands of applications like hers: a clueless high school kid attracted to the glamor of the college without offering anything to the college. Which was likely the fatal flaw in her application. None of the adcoms who rejected her would be surprised at her outcome - off to ASU to study business, which isn't inherently flawed but tells you they saw things in her application and essays that turned them off. If you're interested in studying business in college, you don't apply to Brown or Harvard. When I used to interview for my Ivy alma mater, it was quickly apparent that any whiff of non-liberal arts pursuits doomed you.
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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:39 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage Doubt she applied to Harvard or Brown as a business major if those majors don't exist. A drama nerd with demonstrable interest in accounting wouldn't disqualify her at all for something like economics. Instead, given the huge rise in applications, she was likely not even looked at due to her race, socioeconomic status, selected major, etc., rather than any real shortcoming on her application. It's all a sham and the idea that selection into the Ivies represents merit is increasingly ludicrous.
And kids have been applying to colleges based on glamor since time immemorial, what a joke that that is somehow a problem as it applies to her. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:06 PM Author: Big rehab She couldn't have applied to H or B as a business major but the only pattern to the colleges she applied to was that they were insanely popular and competitive colleges. Even USC received 71,000 applicants for 2021. She applied to Berkeley, but what for? If she wanted California she needed to apply to a range of CA schools including lesser UCs. If she wanted the east coast Ivy mystique, she needed to look at the next rung including Tufts and the LACs. If she wanted to study business, her applications should have been focused on schools with business programs.
I don't dispute the rest of what you said. Odds were always against her because she's an unfashionable category, a white girl from a middle class white suburb. While Ivy admits were never pure meritocracies they are far less meritocratic now than they were 20 years ago. She was a rubber stamp rejection.
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Date: April 21st, 2022 10:20 PM Author: Thriller Translucent Place Of Business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381861) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:15 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location if she can keep her head straight ASU is gonna be a fucking blast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379033) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:28 PM Author: Thriller Translucent Place Of Business I can't wait to bang her from SA next time I'm in Phoenix next year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379119) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:30 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space in Phoenix I'd go LATINA-ONLY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379131) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:32 PM Author: Thriller Translucent Place Of Business I take well advantage of the Latina market, friend. But thank you for the protip! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379146) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 9:28 PM Author: pearl hominid I’m going to eat her ass AND BREED her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381482) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:26 PM Author: Balding property national security agency She's decently cute now due to youth but looks like she'll blow up after 25. She's going to make many ASU chads happy for a night for the next few years though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380593) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:15 PM Author: Stimulating black goyim also tbf she is not extraordinary in the slightest, if she were azn this thread would be laughed off the bort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379034) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:19 PM Author: Boyish Rambunctious Jewess Abode Cr. Should've cut her tits off, gotten on TRT and she would've gotten acceptances everywhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379057) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:38 PM Author: stirring slate native mother "“The middle class tends to get a little bit neglected,” said Hafeez Lakhani, a private college counselor in New York who charges $1,200 an hour. “Twenty years ago, Ms. Younger would have had a good shot at an Ivy League school.”
Holy shit. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:46 PM Author: Lime wrinkle location there are so many great lines here. the middle class family paying 1200/hr for college counselling, it just keeps giving. true xo catnip. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379232) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:02 PM Author: Blathering area Anybody can claim they charge $1200 an hour though. There are a lot of self-promoters in college admissions prep who are full of shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382128) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:45 PM Author: fragrant wagecucks lol @ letting your kids apply without some bespoke gender in 2022 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379228) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 1:54 PM Author: Wine brunch Tue truth is 99 percent chance she will be better off at a state u. Bright, hard working middle class kids do not do well at harvard. Whu take on the debt amd deal with the bullshit woloth no clear payoff. Controlling for grades and test scores, state school trads do no worse than harvard grads and take on less debt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379279) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:08 PM Author: beta base generalized bond Overall the girl seems directionless. This might be a case where the system, against all odds, actually worked. They saw through her mediocrity.
First off is the overload on drama, choir, plays etc. That's good if that's what you want to do. But when you take that and apply to business school, it just comes across as someone not sure of what they want. The general inability to handle stress was not a good sign for an adcom. She racked up a bunch of extra-curriculars but there was no central theme. It's like she did a bunch of random shit because that's what you do.
I think she's ending up exactly where she should and it's going to work out well for her and ASU. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:11 PM Author: Mischievous know-it-all dysfunction public bath This is such gaslighting bullshit. What you call "directionless", would be considered "well rounded" if she was a POC or a legacy candidate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379387) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:12 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379392) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:15 PM Author: aphrodisiac boistinker chapel Agreed. That's pretty ridiculous way to describe your typical over-achiever. Pretty typical of ivy league admits to have a shit ton of activities ranging from science shit to musical instruments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379409) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:15 PM Author: Stimulating black goyim (nervous Ivy adcom rehearsing testimony for upcoming lawsuit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379407) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:18 PM Author: impertinent half-breed Lol ASU is a massive community college (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379416) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:19 PM Author: multi-colored kitchen imagine grinding your youth away only to end up there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379425) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:24 PM Author: aphrodisiac boistinker chapel She could have done better though and still received a scholarship. She applies to a bunch of t10 schools, UT, and then ASU. I'm sure there were a bunch of private schools out there with good undergrad business schools Duke, ND, WUSTL, NYU etc. that would have taken her and maybe thrown a lot of money at her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379442) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:06 PM Author: nighttime buff internal respiration duke wouldn't admit her, it competes with the miscellaneous ivies and has no undergrad business school. wustl is doubtful I think it attracts the prep school kids for some reason. nd seems not her type at all. have no idea about nyu. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379914) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:19 PM Author: Big rehab She probably didn't apply early anywhere for financial reasons as apparently finaid is worse if you apply ED. But I concur that she applied badly and needed a much bigger range of schools if she wanted to go to college in the top 25. Duke was probably a reject but WUSTL, CMU, JHU, etc should have been on her list as her actual reaches for the top 10 schools are pure crapshoot.
If my kids had the same stats, I'd be encouraging them to apply early to an elite LAC like Amherst/Williams or the next rung elite colleges like Vanderbilt or CMU. But they'd also have written very different essays and handled the ECs differently. Applying, even ED, to HYPS is crapshoot and a waste of the ED bump. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:19 PM Author: multi-colored kitchen see...hard work pays off kids!!!!!!! It's AMERICA 2022!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379424) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 2:36 PM Author: Bearded razzle-dazzle institution The practical value of an ivy undergrad has never been lower. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44379499) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 10:10 PM Author: Wine brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381792) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 11:30 AM Author: titillating dilemma hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44384692) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 3:50 PM Author: contagious primrose gas station Wrote about anxiety and depression in her essays Comes across clear that she wants to study "business" in the article
I think she would've gotten a few acceptances if somebody gave her guidance during the application process. Not entirely her fault, but I wouldn't take a chance on her either |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:48 PM Author: bisexual mediation lettuce CR. Parents did her a disservice letting her write about that. I am sure it was an auto ding at Cornell. Their adcom literally has a "gorge jumper" pile of rejections for apps that CONVEY depression. Hers was probably at the top for outright saying it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380130) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:48 PM Author: coral passionate piazza doctorate Lmao Sadly they still let in ton of anxious gorge jumpers whose parents/consultants stop them from writing about their anxiety |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:08 PM Author: bisexual mediation lettuce MFCR. I've never known a Jew who wasn't abnormally anxious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380239) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:43 PM Author: sadistic locus foreskin From the responses ITT it seems like college admissions are more classist and woke than ever imaginable when I was applying 20 years ago. But give me a break “oh a middle class smart striver will fail at any Ivy ug,” um ok why? Half of them go into banking and consulting and you don’t need to be a fucking aristocrat to get a high GPA and come off as polished and bright at an interview. At my top law school the Ivy-ug-educated types were shockingly unimpressive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380099) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:44 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380108) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:13 PM Author: Big rehab I didn't see anyone here saying she would fail at an Ivy ug. Those of us who went to Ivies know it's next to impossible to flunk out of them.
She just didn't get in and we're discussing why. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:14 PM Author: coral passionate piazza doctorate The plus factor differentiators all boil down to…coming from a wealthy family (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380277) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:22 PM Author: Big rehab To an extent it is true. If largely because she would be a in a better place for advice and understanding of how to game the applications and the colleges you apply to.
I bet you if she was a wealthy girl at Hockaday, her college list would be quite different. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:31 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space i couldn't even begin to try to pick winners and losers out of a Harvard freshman class yet you have a guy upthread saying this McCombs reject would "not even need an MBA" if she got into Harvard. presumably she'd be a 30 under 30 Tiger Global VP if one shrew essay reader in Boston smiled upon her (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380357) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:15 PM Author: well-lubricated ruby voyeur temple it so funny how we all still care about this stuff because we want to be prestigious but are actually just gunners trying to coast in on merit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380283) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:25 PM Author: comical burgundy trailer park jap Should have gone to UT. A business major is gay anyway-- should go to a trade school for that. Ooooh I want to learn how to conduct business. Back in the day you learned that shit by, you know, working in a business. That said, if she gets her head on right and stops thinking about what could have been at an Ivy, she could have a great time at ASU. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:07 PM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol Were I her parent, I would have pushed hard for UT. But she'll be absolutely fine at ASU. She won't have any realistic access to the pinnacles of prestige, but she'll have plenty of really solid options if she wants them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380513) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:28 PM Author: Shaky claret pocket flask menage She got dinged because she couldn’t handle public HS without mental breakdown and then actually wrote about it. College will be 10x more stressful for her after you factor in that almost all other non-athlete whites and Asians come from an elite/feeder HS and already get how things work.
It’s actually a blessing in disguise because now she can live a normal life instead of killing herself/her parents financially and possibly literally by blindly following the striver/prestige route when she’s destined to be a manager in the accounting dept at Boeing after a stint at a big 4 where she will be weeded out quickly. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:32 PM Author: impertinent half-breed Lol college is easy as shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380363) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:49 PM Author: Shaky claret pocket flask menage This girl is obviously a combo of average intelligence and very straight and narrow in that she obviously only studies really hard but has no idea how to figure out short cuts. She got some Bs due to not being able to finish reading some books for English during the internet age. There was no internet when I went to HS and nobody read the full book anyway when you can go read the cliff notes.
she wants to be a “business” major which is not a real degree. She would take a microecon course at any ivy and likely break down from the stress of being in the class with 10% actually brilliant people, 25% whites from Andover who already have analyst positions lined up for once they graduate, 25% Asians who are roboting their way to finance/med/law/tech. This is not the kind of girl who can handle that sort of environment. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:53 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space lol what year are you posting from, 1931? https://www.gradeinflation.com/Dartmouth.html |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:09 PM Author: Shaky claret pocket flask menage Not sure what grade inflation has to do with anything. This girl is not going to be happy with a 3.4 esp after she works harder than most students. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380534) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:11 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space "she can't handle it" = coast to a 3.5 in poli sci, forever be assumed to be a good student, move on to real life. got it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380546) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:31 PM Author: Big rehab I see where Nutella is coming from.
The girl has great stats because she grinded for it. She's not the same as someone who gets the same stats with only half the effort, which would be her peers at an elite school. I went to a high performing high school and then an Ivy, and in neither case did I ever feel overwhelmed and I probably put in a fraction of the hours she does.
There are other clues to the limits of her natural aptitude. She had her sights set on the elite schools and didn't figure out you don't go to most of them to study "business." The selection of colleges she applied to shows she wasn't strategic nor did she do her research into the odds. Her essay on mental health wasn't thought out well when she should have focused on her theater/performing arts background as the real hook. But she couldn't reconcile it with wanting to study business. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:48 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space yes this is the weird patronizing POV that got her dinged. this entire post is retarded. 99% of the little asian girls from the northwest with professional consultants who told them to gun for literary ECs and swear they'll be poets after college will rip the mask off and be little striver bot nutellas. by sophomore year they'll be leaders in the Investment Banking Enthusiasts Club
re: how much she "grinded" and how much others or you grinded, it's nonsensical to talk bout, you could feel like you grinded really hard if you procrastinated all the time then made a hail mary effort at the end. the optimal "grind" would probably be to put constant 50% effort from day 1 to finals but who does that? |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:54 PM Author: Shaky claret pocket flask menage She took time off in high school for mental health services when she lived at home and didn’t have to lift a finger being at a normal high school. How do you think she would’ve done at a magnet school? College is an adjustment for everyone but esp for those who aren’t used to being in a certain environment. There are those who go in seamlessly as if they own the place (legacies, boarding school kids) and know to take rocks for jocks in combo with some respectable classes. The Asians are all from stuy equivalent. For someone who has mental health issues, she’s going in blind with no support.
One of my freshman year roommates was a valedictorian from a regular school in Minnesota and really struggled and would cry about her grades (she got like a 3.0 in econ). She gave up taking more econ and ended up a psych major. She didn’t have real mental health issues like this girl and ivy was pointless for her life outcome anyway (back in Midwest working f100 job).
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:59 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space you're taking all of her retarded stories at face value oh no she was born in like 2004 couldn't figure out how to use Google to get dat book report done faster! |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 7:19 PM Author: Shaky claret pocket flask menage And her stories make her sound retarded.
I’ve forgotten what my college admissions essays were about but I most certainly made up some shit about wanting to be a war zone correspondent or something because I was EIC of one of the newspaper. I didn’t use it as an opportunity to explain away a b+.
Unlike high school where you end up taking a bunch of AP tests, college grading in humanities is totally subjective and it’s mostly giving the professor what they want to hear to reinforce their stupid world views. I’m sure it’s 1000% worse now and this girl would’ve pulled all nighters doing all the reading and get a b+ and have a mental breakdown instead of an A plagiarizing from jezebel. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 7:30 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space lol @ you continuing to dunk on this 17 year old to excuse yourself cheating yourself out of an already pathetic education as a political scientist
you say this roommate of yours is in flyover doing who-knows-what and didn't get the benefits of an Ivy. did you? the other prettier woman with the same job title as you went to a barely T100 college and 90% of your firm's made up of B-tier material from core business people on down |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:06 PM Author: Shaky claret pocket flask menage I’d venture to say it’s a top 10% outcome of my graduating class, at least financially speaking, and prob 1% if you’re speaking of women.
I could’ve gone to SUNY if I wanted to a generic corporate job. Not sure what my job title or what schools others attended 20-30 ago have to do anything. I don’t think the guy making $10m/year cares that he didn’t go to an ivy. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:13 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space you do have a generic corporate job... and you're in the same position as some 1300 SAT Becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381119) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 9:20 PM Author: Shaky claret pocket flask menage I assume youre just trolling. The alternative is that you can’t actually tell the difference btwn my job and a marketing manager at visa. Not worth going back and forth with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381448) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 9:37 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space Visa's a great company that created tons of shareholder value. Your crappy mutual funds managed by Wall Street rejects destroy value with fees and nonsensical diversified names that are really just a closet index. You keep telling everyone here how they pay you millions because otherwise everyone would assume it's a low tier job... doesn't help that your direct peer there looks like an ex-Lakers cheerleader both physically and educationally (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381527) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:09 PM Author: Blathering area What mutual fund is this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382185) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:13 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space it sucks, you've never heard of it, and it's in LA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382217) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:19 PM Author: Blathering area Gotcha. On that topic I have seen a bunch of funds over the years that seem to have started pre-2000 that are large-cap long-only pseudo-index funds and they blow my mind what a scam they are. They suck, consistently underperforming S&P for two straight decades and yet they collect millions and millions in fees. I'm not sure the managers even research stocks any more because why waste the time, just dartboard 100 large caps and go golfing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382274) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:25 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space they're total shit and only exist to gather assets for dat management fee. and they're paying nutella millions a year (for what exactly? when the going rate would be far less) and presumably Stacy the bimbo aka the other lawyer with same title gets similar compensation with her T100 BA and meh non-T14 JD? sounds weird but ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382322) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:40 PM Author: laughsome chrome market fat ankles You’re way too focused on this girl and not enough on the story behind the piece. The point is that college applications have gotten ridiculous. When you were applying to college, a girl like this could have / would have gotten into at least one of these schools. Yes, we know she is poorly advised, but that’s kind of the point here too; had she been the child of a dirt farmer an hour outside of Abilene, she would have had a chance. If she was an inner-city black crack baby from Baltimore, she would have been admitted. But instead she’s from a middle class suburban family so the adversity she has faced is held against her, rather than viewed as something she had the strength of mind to overcome.
I agree with you that her essays sound uncompelling, her academics sound indistinguishable from a million others, and that she really doesn’t have a “hook” that adcoms can point to to rationalize admitting her, but why is that now the standard? It certainly hasn’t lead to better innovations or meaningful humanitarian progress. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:07 PM Author: Boyish Rambunctious Jewess Abode She's 17-18, you stupid cunt. LOL at lording whatever modicum of wisdom you've acquired over the last 40+ yrs over some kid in this disgusting, superiority complex display. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380516) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:09 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space it's hilarious when you read her posts and think of her skull-like face (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380531) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2022 2:27 PM Author: cracking free-loading gaming laptop yeha.. she's been posting like this for as long as this poor girl has been alive, it's pathetic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44391570) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:56 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space you're even more retarded for believing her book story bizness not a real degree, aren't you a political SCIENTIST? |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 7:34 PM Author: Shaky claret pocket flask menage So this seemingly smart person is making up stories for a news piece to make herself seem stupid?
Most degrees are not “real” degrees, mine is no exception. The point of attending an ivy is college recruiting into certain jobs, to leverage it for a network in the future and to get automatic assumption that you’re some baseline level smart. Most people don’t make use of the network and that smart “halo” lasts no longer than your first few jobs.
By the time you’re my old age, I barely look at where people went to school and only see where they’ve worked. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:25 PM Author: Cerebral university Business isn't a real degree? Maybe not at Dartmouth, but it is pretty much everywhere else, including many top schools.
http://catalog.mit.edu/degree-charts/business-analytics-course-15-2/
https://www.admissions.caltech.edu/explore/academics/majors-minors/business-economics-and-management |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:34 PM Author: Floppy crawly national said the same thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380370) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:34 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space oh no the analytical demands of "big 4" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380373) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:35 PM Author: Big rehab She does have mega corp accounting manager stamped all over her. Better than a theatre major at Cornell or Penn and wasting her 20s in low wage jobs in NYC and ending up childless and broke in her 30s.
I think you're right - she'd probably try to be an overachiever at an Ivy and not figure out how to take it easy and find the balance that works.
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:38 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage you can't teach this natural cuntiness folks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380390) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 7:11 PM Author: Gay psychic rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380790) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:50 PM Author: Yapping cocky sex offender Big 4 is filled with mid IQ super grinders. Seems like a good fit.
Ivy UG a admissions are meaningless at this point. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:34 PM Author: jet multi-billionaire insane that she was dinged at UT business school. wtf does it take? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380371) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:40 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space yeah that one's weird (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380398) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:16 PM Author: Pontificating Ungodly Regret Digit Ratio mccombs bba, plan 2 (or whatever the honors program is called), and the school of engineering are legitimately competitive, not autoadmit for t10% or whatever thing the state had ut commit to in the past. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380553) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:44 PM Author: jet multi-billionaire she's a texas resident with a 3.9, a 1550, and a bunch of extracurriculars. wtf more can you do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380652) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:52 PM Author: Pontificating Ungodly Regret Digit Ratio not be white, female and overly share stories about drug addiction and mental breakdowns? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380692) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:59 PM Author: Big rehab Lined up an internship in a business setting, had some EC's related to "business" in some capacity, wrote essays about being fascinated by something related to business.
Not saying it would have done the trick but the elite undergrad business programs like Wharton usually want people who already demonstrate activities relevant to business school. Not 30 high school theater performances. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 7:15 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space idk why she didn't to go UT then transfer to the business school UT isn't Ignominious for pretty much anyone, I just saw some super study azn kid from norcal (elite private school there) who's at UT for computer science. he probably didn't get into Stanford or MIT or an upper Ivy but he for sure got into Berkeley etc and he's still going to UT |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:49 PM Author: jet multi-billionaire UT comp sci is big time, probably top 5, definitely top 10. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381312) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:43 PM Author: laughsome chrome market fat ankles I thought UT had to admit Texas students in the top 10% of their class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381277) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:46 PM Author: jet multi-billionaire they do, and they did, but some majors like business, comp sci, EE, etc. have a separate process. she could have gone undeclared for a year, gotten a 4.0, and transferred into the business school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381300) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:34 PM Author: multi-colored kitchen so Azns have it even worse than this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380372) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:47 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space NYU Stern has gone from ignominious rejected from every Ivy and Dook school to that's actually pretty good for an azn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380425) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 5:36 PM Author: Self-absorbed slimy faggot firefighter Lol but they’ll take any nigger they can get their hands on. Equity! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380378) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:02 PM Author: flesh theater stage Achievement without joy seems futile. Anxiety meds at age 7? Outpatient mental health care in HS? Seems to me those who grind their way through school and life are losing a lot. I think life is best lived at half throttle, if that. OTOH, the rest of us benefit from the hard work of grinders.
Perhaps she was self sabotaging by detailing her mental health woes in applications. Seems like a red flag to adcoms. I'm near ASU right now. Looks pretty wonderful to me. Pretty sure I could find Joy somewhere on Mill St. Hope she's at least a 7. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:07 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space let's all go back to the 70s imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380519) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:08 PM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol She needs to drop a few pounds. Maybe the peer pressure will be good for her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380526) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:47 PM Author: laughsome chrome market fat ankles The anxiety meds at 7 is a serious red flag about the parents. 9 times out of 10, when I see families with kids on meds, the real mental case is the mom, who just can’t handle not having a perfectly compliant, obedient child and then the problems spiral from there. Most mental illnesses don’t even manifest until the kid is a teen. I’m guessing g this girl just got drugged into compliance by an overbearing parent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381305) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 6:08 PM Author: impertinent half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44380522) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:05 PM Author: Vivacious heaven “Nearly half of white students admitted to Harvard between 2009 and 2014 were recruited athletes, legacy students, children of faculty and staff, or on the dean’s interest list—applicants whose parents or relatives have donated to Harvard, according to a 2019 study published in the National Bureau of Economic Research.”
Haha wow holy shit |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:27 PM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol Those regular middle class white kids think they're being punished for following the rules (if they're even that aware). But the rules are completely different from what they thought. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381194) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:44 PM Author: stubborn pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381290) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:39 PM Author: Indecent sienna church "Gender also matters. Women now apply to college in much larger numbers than men. Schools seek to maintain gender parity in enrollment, which means young women often face higher standards and greater competition."
This is not accurate. Men make up a strong majority of 1500+ SAT scores and so it's much more competative for them at top schools. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:40 PM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol Is that still true after recent compression at the top? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381265) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:53 PM Author: Indecent sienna church Actually, it may not be true anymore for that reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381324) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:44 PM Author: laughsome chrome market fat ankles Every Ivy is 60/40 female/male. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381286) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:19 AM Author: Racy ape they used to, but since 2015 the SAT no longer measures IQ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383070) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 8:44 PM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol USC rejection? Yeah, they've been getting pretty good since ~2000, but I think the people arguing that her application had serious red flags are right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381287) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 10:24 PM Author: Brilliant french chef Surprised no one has mentioned this, but it seems pretty clear the SAT is a failure at this point. They've obviously dumbed it down and are giving out way more 1400+ than they did 20 years ago.
The SATs should just be harder so people have a chance to prove themselves. Part of this is probably so more minorities get comparably high scores, but it has been a disaster for other kids.
It shouldn't be that an essentially perfect test score and an essentially perfect GPA means you can't get into your fucking major at a state school. |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 10:41 PM Author: comical burgundy trailer park jap This is true, but nobody talks about it. The SAT is a weird thing because they don't know how to deal with it. Should we make it more "culturally inclusive" (i.e., dumb it down)? Don't rich people just hire tutors for their kids anyway? Let's just forget it altogether, but not really. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44381992) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:20 AM Author: Racy ape dumbing it down vastly increases the impact of test prep on scores. they should use that as the rationale to make it more rigorous; only way they could ever get progressives to swallow it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383077) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:29 AM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol Now that the SAT is about to be given only by computer, they should make it adaptive with a ridiculously high ceiling, with tons of discrimination power. For instance, the math section should progressively extend to problems that would stump almost everyone at the Math Olympiad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383114) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:31 AM Author: excitant lodge mad cow disease 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383120) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:20 PM Author: swashbuckling corner itt: Asians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382279) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:21 AM Author: Racy ape mods (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383084) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:22 PM Author: Blathering area There's no mystery here, she was ranked 23rd in her graduating class at a public school. Why should she get into ultra selective colleges? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382291) |
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Date: April 21st, 2022 11:44 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Grizzly Range even 20 years ago at super competitive public schools outside of NYC and boston people didn't "expect" to actually get into ivies when ranked 23rd in their class unless they graduated with 2000 kids or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382425) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 12:04 AM Author: Blathering area Exactly. ~20 years ago I got into one Ivy and dinged from 6 other elite schools and I was ranked 5th in my class at a public school, team captain of a popular sport (unrecruited at college) and low 1500s SAT. This shit is all way way more competitive now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382540) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 12:06 AM Author: glassy self-centered stage How was Ithaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382549) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 12:16 AM Author: Blathering area Gorge-ous (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382603) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 12:11 AM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space many schools don't officially rank so it's nothing to see the valedictorian stay in state while #20 goes to Brown or some shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44382574) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 12:14 AM Author: Mentally Impaired Grizzly Range sure, and that sort of thing has always happened (#20 out of 400 with a 1500 SAT going to brown), but everyone knows it's a crapshoot.
that #20 wouldn't actually expect to get into harvard or stanford unless they were black or recruited to play something. maybe they'd target cornell. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:26 AM Author: excitant lodge mad cow disease she didn't even get into UC berkeley. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383105) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:31 AM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol White people from out of state don't get in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383121) |
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Date: April 24th, 2022 3:15 PM Author: obsidian theatre A top 1% SAT and top 3% school ranking should have made her an admit to at least 2-3 of those schools. And let's be real, if she were a minority and everything else were the same abouther profile, she'd have a free ride to every school in the country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44396187) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:28 AM Author: concupiscible sneaky criminal indian lodge why didn't she just go to Colgate or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383109) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:29 AM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol Shit, I'd rather go to ASU. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383115) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:36 AM Author: concupiscible sneaky criminal indian lodge obv, but she seemed deep in the grip of (pseudo) prestige fever. to go from Harvard --> 'welp, looks like Arizona will have to do' is unusually sensible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383145) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 2:40 AM Author: Orchid Insecure Pistol It's a weird story all around. Mental illness ties it together somewhat satisfactorily, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383157) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 8:28 AM Author: Bistre histrionic lay affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383655) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 8:15 AM Author: fragrant wagecucks Really liberal use of the word extraordinary in that article (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383638) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 9:08 AM Author: Floppy crawly national Yeah has a dailymail feel to it. Girl is clueless for agreeing to this article (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383824) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 9:22 AM Author: Electric weed whacker macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44383905) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 3:54 PM Author: marvelous erotic milk headpube yeah 3.95 unweighted at a non rigorous school, ranked 23rd, and having that academic anxiety is a huge red flag tbh
The adcoms want a diversity statistic, not a potential liability who might killself at the end of the semester |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 3:59 PM Author: fragrant wagecucks She wouldn't have gotten in 1990s. I went to a big white non-description suburban high school back then and like 2-3 a year got into ivies. Certainly nobody ranked 23rd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44386432) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 4:03 PM Author: glassy self-centered stage This is ridiculous. She wouldn't get into HYPS but Cornell admitted kids with 1350s in those days, and even into the 2000s a lower Ivy would have taken her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44386470) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 4:08 PM Author: fragrant wagecucks Tbf, a 1350 in 1994 was not much different than todays 1550. They've recentered the test twice since then. Nobody ranked 23rd at my school got into any lower ivies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44386505) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 4:04 PM Author: marvelous erotic milk headpube more credible if it were like someone in my HS a grade above me w/ 4.0 unweighted, a fuckton of AP classes, perfect SAT and captain of the swim team who got full ivy dinged and went to Berkeley
But even then who gives a shit the dude is making bank in PE while I'm a HYP dropout (though recently finally I copped dat 9-5 210k all in comp job thru nepotism so i guess Ivy does open doors even as a dropout) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 4:12 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space yeah ranking in the 20s with a 3.95 is a death sentence quick, guess where this kid went and then check after https://issuu.com/nicolaschae/docs/nicolas_chae_resume_0617-2017__2_
they're just looking for smart enough kids then they pick whoever they want, no one gives a shit about your missing 0.05 grade points |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 4:40 PM Author: marvelous erotic milk headpube No not exactly a death sentence, but not exactly a standout
Her ONE. FATAL. MOVE. was talking about academic anxiety - YUUGE red flag for these striver-ridden schools as they don't want another negative headline about a suicide
Yes, colleges want more DIVERTHITTHY and LGBTABCDEFQ alphabet people and all, but only to check off their shitlib boxes.
They'd rather have some lesbian from the hood, but not a direct admission of a mental illness that may be a liability for them
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 4:59 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space yeah idk why she did that, maybe there was no way around it. like she had to explain taking time off during HS or some shit and it was evident in the transcript (had like 2 classes in a fall or spring semester or something) i don't think she'd be much better off with a 4.0 and tied for #1 in her class. if you look at what came out in the Harvard AA lawsuit they had something like if you're a 6 then you're a national contest winner in science and obvious summa/PBK material, if you're a 4 then you've got something like a 31 ACT/1450 SAT and gonna have no problem graduating if you're admitted (in the undistinguished wide middle or bottom half or whatever you wanna call it), and 5 is in between. she's a 5 even if she's #1 in her class |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 5:18 PM Author: marvelous erotic milk headpube Having already been there & all that, and being the AZN one to get into HYP and then flaming out epically, honeslty I have little sympathy for the snowflakes crying about going to BIGSTATEU after getting dinged at Ivies
Her fault if she couldn't get into other "better" BIGSTATEU's and even Rice w/ those stats tbh
Your life ain't changing just b/c you went to H instead of like Berkeley or something, plenty of striving opps there if that's the goal
But yeah it honestly seems like the MAJOR reason for her ding was the suicide risk that striver Us don't want
Her grades n stuff is fine, and plenty of people get in even the non AA peeps w/ those grades, just that ONE FATAL FLAW was enough for them to ding her b/c you can probably find another thousand of the same applications from just the non-AA applicants that do not carry a suicide risk (well, at least on paper. stupid admission on her part) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 5:23 PM Author: soul-stirring fantasy-prone space idk why she didn't pick some LACs like that other guy said. they're tailor made for people who think they're too good for their state school but will never get into HYP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5090333&forum_id=2#44387072) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 5:25 PM Author: marvelous erotic milk headpube LACs are defintiely a lot more culturally relevant in the Northeast & amongst insane HS strivers
But in TX? I'd say for most people there UT Austin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Williams/Amherst etc
Nobody outside of the NE WASP bubble knows what the hell Williams is |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 5:27 PM Author: Brilliant french chef This is fucking stupid analysis.
She has an almost perfect GPA. She has an almost perfect SAT score.
It's not her fault that 25 other people in the school have the same shit.
Maybe she's a genius, maybe she's not - but we don't have enough info based on these facts to decide. That's the problem. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2022 7:47 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Grizzly Range "She has an almost perfect GPA. She has an almost perfect SAT score."
every person who posts on xo has the same thing, and none of us expected to get into harvard, not even thirty years ago |
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