I see a rotating cast, but usually the same women, every single month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797351)

tyia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797359)

Screening: I only see the same ones, so it's just initial screening. But they usually need TER reviews. I like social media presence. Evidence they're not going to kill me, evidence they're real, and evidence they don't suck at it.

Favorite experiences: I see one girl, just a massage girl, and she edges me until I am literally dripping, the precum is everywhere, and I cannot hold it back. She is so good at it. She teases me and says the right stuff and holds me a good 5-10 minutes beyond where I am comfortable. And then the release is the most intense every single month.

I prefer independent because I think there is less risk of your shit being exposed.

Some are full service and some are massage. I try to go about once a week just to get rid of my sexual urges so I can return to my IRL incel life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797384)

100% cannot relate to why you enjoy this. Seems unpleasant. Why not just nut with much less time & effort?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797397)

the other interactions are normal intercourse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797422)

(Yours, not the whores)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797362)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797390)

I love how I don't have to return the pleasure or care.

I love how they are nice to me even if it's a financial transaction.

I love how I get off sometimes multiple times with very good looking women.

And then I leave and there's no bullshit for me to deal with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797396)

But I am literally never going to get married or have kids and a lot of it has to do with my height.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797410)

I sometimes wonder why I actually work. I like my job. I like to achieve. But it's kinda pointless.

I would love to have a normal woman that wants to have sex with me, but I don't.

It's just something missing, that's all. But in many other ways I am happy. And in fact, in the net happiness aggregate, I am probably happier than many dudes in marriages given the problems they have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797430)

you're just trying to fill a void and then convincing yourself that it's actually filled. Sry bro, still not too late to maek it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797453)

i admit maybe I am trying to cover it up.

what more can I do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797456)

the other guy wouldn't do FS because he was paranoid about the various STDs

I don't have to care

but we were both quotemos who saw FBSMs and posted about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797440)

sex work w/o intercourse and sometimes a massage element

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797452)

I am not worried about the clap

I am worried about HIV and herpes and shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797461)

Rawdog it.

Also, you're irrational fear of diseases is a other strong indicator of your Jewisnesses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46797472)

Prices / rates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46811930)

Twitter (all of these girls now have accounts)

theeroticreview dot com (most legit ones, although not all, have reviews)

FS (full service) can be 500-1000, depends on her looks/persona, and how long. I tend to spend 500-700/hour and up to 1000 for 90 minutes.

FBSM can be like 200-500 depending on factors, although most I see for 200-300 an hour and include add-ons like kissing and multiple finishes.

It took years to find a steady rotation. I see the same 4-5 girls in my city spready out over a month or two, so I don't get bored, and then have a few who travel in 1-3x a year that I keep up a relationship with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46811939)

I guess apartment is actually better for opsec if you are a cheatmo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46811949)

The apartment quality varies. Some are really nice. None are truly seedy (drugs being sold, rats running around) but some are definitely more like student housing level quality. I actually kinda like a little grunge because it feels like an organic hook up from my past.

I'm not a cheatmo but the hardest thing is the screening these girls have. They want a lot of shit now so I created an elaborate second persona to get around their bullshit. I have a fake LinkedIn, fake ID, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46811963)

The issue is if the cops catch them. I wouldn't want my shit connected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46811977)

The bank isn't reporting their income to the IRS if it's under 10K. The government has no fucking clue. They just slowly over time report $$$ like they're waitresses or strippers or some shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46812050)

But maybe you're right, maybe not all is tax free.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46812065)

She can pay everything in cash but mostly only scummy places have no card on file and no background check or credit score. No nice places allow this. But if you're a Hot Chick I'm sure it's an easier time since simps everywhere will give a Hot Chick a special deal.

But even so if lots of her money is off the books it could take years to launder it all in some formal way. It's not as easy as it looks. There are thousands of drug dealers with 10s of thousands of money buried on a property somewhere who don't know what to do with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46812938)

I assume this is what EPAH's firm does, helps sex workers go legit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46813511)

I don't think this is how it works for good-looking hookers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46821883)

But if we're a match I go back and see them regularly and make sure they are reliable. Lots of issues present themselves: some women are flakey, some don't put in the effort, some do drugs, you never know.

After years I settled on a good rotation.

If you see this as a one-off thing, you can just play the game and see who you get.

But I see this almost like getting my haircut. You invest in a long term relationship with the provider so you gotta try it out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46812034)

I legitimately don't know what I'd do with this cash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46812053)

It’s weird that you wear condoms though, like really weird. There’s literally no reason to have sex with a condom on. It’s not even sex

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46812055)

Like seriously, condom “sex” is truly awful. I’m not judging you personally I’m just saying that in my experience fucking with a condom on is not even worth the experience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46812069)

maybe at the uber wealthy level it's not even escorting, it's like "sugar baby" shit where she fucks a CEO without a condom

but not at my level

I'm driving the BMW of escorts, those guys get the Rolls Royce, I can't ball at that level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46812074)

You just need testing from talent testing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46813929)

1. what is your height that you are so upset about?

2. why are you so upset about it?

3. describe your prior relationships and why they failed

4. describe why you've given up on finding a spouse and having children

5. are you unable to date properly because you are ugly? rate your looks and personality 0-10. you seem autistic ITT.

6. how are you able to make 350k/year with such poor skills that you cannot attract a spouse?

7. describe your parents reaction to being an incel

jfc people, start with the basics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46812991)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46813411)

2. I know my height limits most of my interactions with men and women. Men don't respect me. Women don't want to date me.

3. I had 3 serious girlfriends. One in college. She got kinda fat. I grew distant. One after college. She had mental health issues. And then a serious, nearly marriage girl, but after years of being together I uncovered more personality quirks, really bad shit, and made the very difficult decision to end it because I thought we wouldn't work well together forever.

4. I don't want male children to inherit my short genes and be fucked like me. I might actually like a little girl. But I think in general the gene pool is better off without me, plus I really could only mate with a low status female because of my height. I just think the grind of doing it isn't worth the cost. I have just resigned myself to this life.

5. Am I ugly? I don't think so. I have a full head of hair. I'm not autistic at all but I don't know how to prove that. I am probably a smidge above average looking and my personality is not that of a lawyer.

6. I am good at my job, but plenty of guys are good at their job and fucking terrible with women. They're totally mutually exclusive. I think this is evidence that my social skills don't suck, though, because I was able to climb the ladder which requires some social IQ.

7. My mom always encourages me to get back out there but my dad has an ethos of me doing whatever makes me happy. I have siblings with kids so there's no grandkid let down. Actually it means even a little part of my DNA continues on, despite my inceldom.

The hardest thing is that some people assume I'm gay and it's hard to rebut that assumption when I have no gf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46817841)

1. 5'7-5'8 is short but it doesn't preclude you from the dating market. Look at CSLG, that little midget cleans up with women. Or look at obeezy, the 5'4" hot stud hockey enforcer. If they can do it why can't you?

2. "Men don't respect me. Women don't want to date me." Height is a factor in respect and dating but there are lots of other factors. I assume you have other qualities that are repellent, like Michael Doodikoff's strange utter repellence to all women in existence.

3. What is "more personality quirks, really bad shit"? Anyway, if you are in your late 30s or early 40s then you're still within the age range of women looking to settle in their young 30s. The older the get the more money you will need for a widening spread, though. $350k/year is fine if you are in the age range discussed if you want a marriagable woman who can have kids.

4. Not trying to convince you otherwise, but yeah, you would probably have to grind it out. Go for a 5'5-5'6" woman if you're that worried about kid height.

5. You post on XO so your personality is bad and you are autistic, sorry

6. Fair

7. Nice not to have that pressure

Why do people think you're gay? Maybe you should lift and take some test

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46817877)

I understand their are outliers, but my general experience is that height is the most significant limitation on a man, and I drew the short straw here.

People don't tell me "you gay!" but I just sense it. Like a work dinner with spouses. And then it's just me. By myself.

I've just settled into this life and while this contradicts my above point about depression, I am actually content. Maybe my views are poisonous, but my height is an all-consuming specter that haunts my everyday life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46817913)

Limb lengthening is ridiculous and also means a future son would still have my DNA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46821862)

Now I am a biglaw equity partner and have a lot more money but older and uglier and I'm getting a lot higher quality bangs and hookups. I don't even flaunt my money but the hoes can sense it based on how I dress and look.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46818436)

Anyway, many people have said this to me. But it's not until far into meeting/picking up a woman that she would find this out. So how does it even relate? I have trouble believing this is the problem most men think it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46818596)

Second, you're probably average looking.

Third, maybe you just got lucky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46821867)

Also, if you’re open to dating Asian/Hispanic/middle eastern etc a lot of these ethnic women will likely see you as average height rather than short

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46821739)

It's a business. The want $$$$.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5405864&forum_id=2#46821841)