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SBF trial seems like a disaster for him, why didn't he plead guilty?

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infuriating ultramarine juggernaut
  10/10/23
I heard his deal was for 25 years. Might as well take a chan...
Self-centered Den Clown
  10/10/23
what are the guidelines if hes convicted across the board?
Onyx Comical Whorehouse Ape
  10/10/23
Ya 1 for a mistrial then you get to do it all over again
Laughsome sepia theater
  10/10/23
They usually offer a better deal after a mistrial. Not alway...
Self-centered Den Clown
  10/10/23
Even worse: He gets convicted on some, but then mistrial...
180 stock car
  10/10/23
fair point / at his age no difference btw 25 and life
federal sick stage
  10/11/23
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Harsh French Bbw
  10/10/23
Yeah, could be the fix is in somehow. We'll see what unfo...
infuriating ultramarine juggernaut
  10/10/23
his 2 closest biz partners directly called him a fraud in co...
Aphrodisiac Generalized Bond
  10/10/23
I know, and it seems he and his lawyers should have foreseen...
infuriating ultramarine juggernaut
  10/10/23
counterpoint: they get leniency, and why didn't they raise a...
Judgmental Bawdyhouse Mental Disorder
  10/10/23
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Bateful Orchestra Pit Degenerate
  03/28/24
How long will the trial take
floppy khaki parlor
  10/10/23
A few weeks I think.
infuriating ultramarine juggernaut
  10/10/23
He should've hired a legit shiesty trial specialist rather t...
aqua soul-stirring kitty cat reading party
  10/10/23
Would you have repped him
saffron racy garrison candlestick maker
  10/10/23
Of course. I'd say that anyone with a brain knew that crypt...
aqua soul-stirring kitty cat reading party
  10/11/23
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lime dead quadroon national
  10/10/23
And judge hates the nerds and has already harangued them in ...
Blathering foreskin friendly grandma
  10/10/23
Q: Please turn to Exh. 1483, which has alpha-numeric AG27426...
Geriatric abusive sanctuary
  10/11/23
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lime dead quadroon national
  10/11/23
By Matthew Goldstein and David Yaffe-Bellany Reporting from...
Geriatric abusive sanctuary
  10/11/23
Everyone in this entire article including the authors is Jew...
infuriating ultramarine juggernaut
  10/11/23
Stanford law professors (ie his parents who presumably picke...
hateful locale persian
  10/11/23
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tan mad-dog skullcap
  10/11/23
Deal might have been shitty Or more likely he thought he...
Multi-colored Lake Hell
  10/10/23
Probably getting delusional advice from his retard parents
lime dead quadroon national
  10/10/23
They really are preening boomer shitheads https://i.daily...
Coiffed hairraiser home filthpig
  10/11/23
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infuriating ultramarine juggernaut
  10/11/23
They are persona non grata at all Stanford cocktail parties ...
Vibrant Codepig Marketing Idea
  10/11/23
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tan mad-dog skullcap
  10/11/23
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lime dead quadroon national
  10/11/23
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cerebral self-absorbed hall idea he suggested
  10/11/23
AND they are Jewish
Canary adulterous base boltzmann
  10/11/23
he's so fucked
Nubile mexican
  10/11/23
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Shaky zippy organic girlfriend
  10/11/23
Will Caroline see jail time?
arousing meetinghouse
  10/11/23
PHENOTYPE SAYS
Shaky zippy organic girlfriend
  10/11/23
She should see a plastic surgeon, that's for sure.
appetizing state
  10/11/23
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adventurous massive doctorate piazza
  10/11/23
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hateful locale persian
  10/11/23
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useless ticket booth feces
  10/11/23
she's so ugly, its bizarre.
Marvelous senate
  10/11/23
She's only 29. Looks 49.
infuriating ultramarine juggernaut
  10/11/23
RATE this court drawing of her: https://i.dailymail.co.uk...
Marvelous senate
  10/11/23
wtf is that horrid neon art behind the judge? in a courtroom...
tan mad-dog skullcap
  10/11/23
That's a window. Maybe read up on Impressionism
insanely creepy violent pistol
  10/11/23
ljl women will turn on you instantly, even if it doesn't dir...
heady indirect expression hairy legs
  10/11/23
cr see FizzKidds' wholly uncalled for aggression on me above...
tan mad-dog skullcap
  10/11/23
I'm going to testify You don't scare me anymore
insanely creepy violent pistol
  10/11/23
I own numerous books on art (hardcover)
tan mad-dog skullcap
  10/11/23
And you will have to sell them all to render the damages I'm...
insanely creepy violent pistol
  10/11/23
He has pretty consistently made decisions like someone who s...
Deranged brethren
  10/11/23


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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:21 PM
Author: infuriating ultramarine juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917299)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:22 PM
Author: Self-centered Den Clown

I heard his deal was for 25 years. Might as well take a chance on the jury. Only takes 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917303)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:33 PM
Author: Onyx Comical Whorehouse Ape

what are the guidelines if hes convicted across the board?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917379)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:40 PM
Author: Laughsome sepia theater

Ya 1 for a mistrial then you get to do it all over again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917422)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:44 PM
Author: Self-centered Den Clown

They usually offer a better deal after a mistrial. Not always though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917457)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:05 PM
Author: 180 stock car

Even worse:

He gets convicted on some, but then mistrial on one count.

Now you do it all over again, but you're still going to prison on the other counts!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917547)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 7:53 PM
Author: federal sick stage

fair point / at his age no difference btw 25 and life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46921915)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:22 PM
Author: Harsh French Bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917305)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:29 PM
Author: infuriating ultramarine juggernaut

Yeah, could be the fix is in somehow.

We'll see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917337)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:33 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Generalized Bond

his 2 closest biz partners directly called him a fraud in court

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917378)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:34 PM
Author: infuriating ultramarine juggernaut

I know, and it seems he and his lawyers should have foreseen this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917382)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:40 PM
Author: Judgmental Bawdyhouse Mental Disorder

counterpoint: they get leniency, and why didn't they raise a voice when this was all going on if they are so noble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917753)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:29 PM
Author: Bateful Orchestra Pit Degenerate

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#47534804)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:32 PM
Author: floppy khaki parlor

How long will the trial take

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917372)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:33 PM
Author: infuriating ultramarine juggernaut

A few weeks I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917377)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:34 PM
Author: aqua soul-stirring kitty cat reading party

He should've hired a legit shiesty trial specialist rather than a couple of nerds who don't know how to trick jurors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917387)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:17 PM
Author: saffron racy garrison candlestick maker

Would you have repped him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917611)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:55 PM
Author: aqua soul-stirring kitty cat reading party

Of course. I'd say that anyone with a brain knew that crypto was a scam from the jump, and they can't now turn around a blame a good kid who was trying to bring stability to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46920028)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:24 PM
Author: lime dead quadroon national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917660)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:57 PM
Author: Blathering foreskin friendly grandma

And judge hates the nerds and has already harangued them in front of jury to stop being such boring fags

HAHAURFUCKED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917811)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:41 AM
Author: Geriatric abusive sanctuary

Q: Please turn to Exh. 1483, which has alpha-numeric AG27426-28, and starting from the last page which is where the email chain starts -- and let's just wait until we get that up on the screen -- now can you please read the second full paragraph on that page to see if he was referencing the prior discussion that you just testified about?

A: Yes.

Q: Ok, now let's look at the reply email ...



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918855)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:41 AM
Author: lime dead quadroon national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918858)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:09 AM
Author: Geriatric abusive sanctuary

By Matthew Goldstein and David Yaffe-Bellany

Reporting from the Daniel Patrick Moynihan U.S. Courthouse in Manhattan.

Oct. 10, 2023

Three days into Sam Bankman-Fried’s criminal trial in Federal District Court in Manhattan, Judge Lewis A. Kaplan’s warnings to the defense had become unmistakable.

Judge Kaplan, who is presiding over the high-profile white-collar fraud case, repeatedly told Mr. Bankman-Fried’s lawyers to stop repeating themselves. Over and over, he directed them to rephrase their questions. And with his frequent interruptions of their cross-examinations, Judge Kaplan kept Mr. Bankman-Fried’s legal team off balance, putting it on the defensive.

“I just want to express my growing concern about the extent of the entirely unnecessary repetition, and I’ve given you a lot of latitude,” Judge Kaplan told one of Mr. Bankman-Fried’s lawyers, Christian Everdell, during a brief break on Thursday when the jury was not in the courtroom. “You’re wearing out the welcome on the repetition.”

Judge Kaplan is a veteran jurist with a history of presiding over prominent trials like that of Mr. Bankman-Fried, 31, who is charged with orchestrating a scheme to misappropriate as much as $10 billion that customers deposited with his crypto exchange, FTX. While he is known for his no-nonsense attitude in the courtroom, legal experts say Judge Kaplan is keeping the defense on an unusually short leash.

Any trial has natural ebbs and flows, and the tenor of the initial stages could change over the six weeks that Judge Kaplan has allotted. But after four days of testimony, the early signs have been ominous for Mr. Bankman-Fried.

“When the jurors see the judge interrupting one of the lawyers and saying, ‘That’s an improper question’ or ‘We’ve covered this already, you’re wasting our time,’ that creates a very big problem for the defendant,” said Paul Tuchmann, a former federal prosecutor. “The judge is a figure of immense authority for them.”

Mr. Bankman-Fried’s trial resumed on Tuesday, with two crucial witnesses. Defense lawyers continued cross-examining Gary Wang, one of FTX’s top executives, who testified last week that Mr. Bankman-Fried had instructed him to insert a secret backdoor into the company’s code that enabled the theft of customer funds. There were fewer interruptions, with Mr. Everdell pointing out some inconsistencies in Mr. Wang’s initial statements to F.B.I. agents and his testimony at trial last week.

Prosecutors then called Caroline Ellison, Mr. Bankman-Fried’s former girlfriend, who ran a crypto trading firm that the government says tapped into FTX customer deposits.

Mr. Wang and Ms. Ellison have pleaded guilty and are cooperating with the authorities. Mr. Bankman-Fried has pleaded not guilty to seven counts of wire fraud and conspiracy.

What charges does he face? Since Bankman-Fried’s extradition, several charges have been added to and later dropped from his indictment. Prosecutors have also removed a charge that he violated campaign finance rules. He is currently standing trial on seven charge, including accusations that he defrauded customers and lenders of FTX.

Judge Kaplan’s tight rein on the defense has potentially far-reaching implications. In criminal cases, defendants typically win or lose based on their lawyers’ ability to undermine prosecution witnesses on cross-examination. The lawyers aim to poke holes in the testimony, establishing enough reasonable doubt for a jury to acquit.

Judges often give defense lawyers wide latitude, overlooking issues with the way a lawyer asks questions or permitting a lawyer to delve into areas that a prosecution witness didn’t directly raise in initial testimony.

But so far in Mr. Bankman-Fried’s trial, Judge Kaplan has repeatedly warned defense lawyers to stop asking about facts that a witness discussed under questioning by the prosecutors. He has also upheld objections from the prosecution over the way the defense lawyers have phrased their questions.

The admonitions have disrupted the questioning, making it difficult for Mr. Bankman-Fried’s lawyers to get their points across. Judge Kaplan has also appeared to grow irritated.

“Don’t do that again, Mr. Everdell,” he snapped on Friday after prosecutors objected to a question that the lawyer asked Mr. Wang.

Judge Kaplan has said his warnings are intended to keep the trial moving.

“Experienced trial judges are often quite sensitive to repetition that can threaten juror concentration,” said Daniel Richman, a law professor at Columbia University and a former federal prosecutor.

Rachel Maimin, a former prosecutor in Manhattan who has appeared before Judge Kaplan, said he “keeps control of his courtroom in a way that makes life in the end much more efficient for jurors, lawyers and everybody involved.”

The disruptions have compounded the challenges that Mr. Bankman-Fried’s defense lawyers already faced. Before the trial, Judge Kaplan issued several rulings that limited the defense’s ability to raise certain issues at the trial. In one of them, he voiced concerns about arguments that FTX relied on advice from outside lawyers to make many of the business decisions related to the charges against him.

Judge Kaplan has also ruled that Mr. Bankman-Fried can’t argue that the venture investors who sank $2 billion into FTX should have done better due diligence. That had an effect in court on Thursday when Judge Kaplan short-circuited the defense’s questioning of Matt Huang, a founder of the venture firm Paradigm Capital, one of FTX’s largest backers.

In a private conference that the jury could not hear, Judge Kaplan warned Mr. Bankman-Fried’s lawyers that their questions to Mr. Huang came close to violating the ruling that they could not suggest investors lost money because of “gullibility and negligence,” according to a trial transcript.

Judge Kaplan also hinted that another potentially worrisome ruling could await the defense. On Friday, he told the lawyers to research the “buried facts doctrine,” which states that it’s insufficient to phrase disclosures about the risks of an investment in opaque language or to bury them in a lengthy document filled with legalese.

Judge Kaplan offered no further explanation, but judges have instructed juries that they can disregard corporate disclosures buried in long documents. That could potentially prevent Mr. Bankman-Fried from claiming that FTX’s customers and investors should have been aware of risks associated with keeping money with the exchange.

Several lawyers said it was a bit of mystery why Judge Kaplan would raise the issue so early. Discussions about jury instructions tend to occur in the final stages of a trial.

“It sounds like he’s coaching the prosecution on an argument to make,” said Mr. Tuchmann, the former prosecutor. “The fact that he’s mentioning it is an ominous thing for the defense.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919015)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:16 AM
Author: infuriating ultramarine juggernaut

Everyone in this entire article including the authors is Jewish except for Wang, Huang, and SBF's goy lawyer named Christian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919053)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:27 AM
Author: hateful locale persian

Stanford law professors (ie his parents who presumably picked his counsel) don’t actually know how to win a case. Shocking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917962)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:27 AM
Author: tan mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918788)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:28 PM
Author: Multi-colored Lake Hell

Deal might have been shitty

Or more likely he thought he could outsmart his way out of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917678)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:37 PM
Author: lime dead quadroon national

Probably getting delusional advice from his retard parents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917744)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:59 AM
Author: Coiffed hairraiser home filthpig

They really are preening boomer shitheads

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/11/00/76404201-12615987-Sam_Bankman_Fried_s_parents_Joseph_Bankman_and_Barbara_Fried_put-a-40_1696981345683.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918005)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:07 AM
Author: infuriating ultramarine juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918683)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:18 AM
Author: Vibrant Codepig Marketing Idea

They are persona non grata at all Stanford cocktail parties now which is basically 10x worse than the holocaust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918748)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:27 AM
Author: tan mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918792)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:19 AM
Author: lime dead quadroon national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918753)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:32 AM
Author: cerebral self-absorbed hall idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918814)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:49 AM
Author: Canary adulterous base boltzmann

AND they are Jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919227)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 12:51 AM
Author: Nubile mexican

he's so fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917909)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 12:54 AM
Author: Shaky zippy organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917916)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:29 AM
Author: arousing meetinghouse

Will Caroline see jail time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917966)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:31 AM
Author: Shaky zippy organic girlfriend

PHENOTYPE SAYS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917970)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:55 AM
Author: appetizing state

She should see a plastic surgeon, that's for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917999)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:18 AM
Author: adventurous massive doctorate piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918752)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 7:33 PM
Author: hateful locale persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46921835)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 8:02 PM
Author: useless ticket booth feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46921946)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:19 AM
Author: Marvelous senate

she's so ugly, its bizarre.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918756)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:20 AM
Author: infuriating ultramarine juggernaut

She's only 29. Looks 49.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918758)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:27 AM
Author: Marvelous senate

RATE this court drawing of her:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/10/19/76393395-12615987-image-a-32_1696962760664.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918789)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:28 AM
Author: tan mad-dog skullcap

wtf is that horrid neon art behind the judge? in a courtroom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918796)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:14 AM
Author: insanely creepy violent pistol

That's a window. Maybe read up on Impressionism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919048)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:14 AM
Author: heady indirect expression hairy legs

ljl women will turn on you instantly, even if it doesn't directly benefit them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919044)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:31 AM
Author: tan mad-dog skullcap

cr see FizzKidds' wholly uncalled for aggression on me above. sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919147)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:36 AM
Author: insanely creepy violent pistol

I'm going to testify

You don't scare me anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919177)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:37 AM
Author: tan mad-dog skullcap

I own numerous books on art (hardcover)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919182)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:45 AM
Author: insanely creepy violent pistol

And you will have to sell them all to render the damages I'm seeking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919212)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 11:50 AM
Author: Deranged brethren

He has pretty consistently made decisions like someone who skimmed the Intro to Micro readings so it would have been shocking if he had taken a plea deal, or not testified. The jury also doesn't know anything about crypto so maybe he can convince them that he's just naive and unlucky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919568)