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Man arrested for creating fake music with AI & making over $10M in royalties

https://futurism.com/man-arrested-fake-bands-streams-ai h...
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
how this coppers have time for this shit when theres so much...
Geriatric tanning salon sneaky criminal
  09/07/24
TSWIFT im a NY LOLer. can I take this case pro boner?
Apoplectic massive locale boiling water
  09/07/24
Where can i hear his fake songs
sticky fragrant cumskin
  09/07/24
read the indictment. it's so bad.
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
What law is he breaking here? Idk I’m not a doctor
Angry field
  09/07/24
literally the TERMS OF SERVICE: https://i.imgur.com/tYRm18p....
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
lmao
Angry field
  09/07/24
SMITH "agree[d] not to engage in (or to permit, encoura...
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
wtf
Jet menage boltzmann
  09/07/24
"On or about March 3, 2023, SMITH falsely represented t...
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
this seems like it should be a civil charge, paying some res...
Jet menage boltzmann
  09/07/24
honestly, if they banned him & refused to pay up, it'd b...
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
That's not a law
Vivacious Medicated Shrine Circlehead
  09/07/24
Seems perfectly legal to me. Maybe don’t host streamin...
chartreuse pervert round eye
  09/07/24
Also, it's quite ableistic & aspersive for the SDNY to s...
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
Agreed. DOJ is surprisingly anthropocentric in its assumptio...
chartreuse pervert round eye
  09/07/24
Sometimes I leave my music streaming when I leave the house ...
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
Cr Spotify needs to come up with a way to see if you're actu...
concupiscible box office doctorate
  09/07/24
They make you get one of Elon’s microchips implanted i...
chartreuse pervert round eye
  09/07/24
Maybe the SDNY can apply their reasoning to the ISPs because...
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
"jiggle the mouse" TP
Apoplectic massive locale boiling water
  09/07/24
...
concupiscible box office doctorate
  09/07/24
I don’t stream music/never have/never will. I have no ...
chartreuse pervert round eye
  09/07/24
How else would we train a CLAP model ?
Lime dilemma
  09/07/24
The artist naming convention also followed a somewhat simila...
Emerald organic girlfriend
  09/07/24
so they did this to steal an election and .... nothing? but...
Apoplectic massive locale boiling water
  09/07/24
dude sounds pretty smart. i wonder what he's previously don...
Jet menage boltzmann
  09/07/24
LJL CASE CLOSED: https://i.imgur.com/Ckj4aXI.png
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
The lesson here is dont answer inquiries. The fraud is in th...
Cerise business firm
  09/07/24
...
Mind-boggling ratface
  09/07/24
Do this but after moving to Morocco or Ecuador.
laughsome rigor area
  09/07/24
Those shitboxes will extradite you -- Russia or China wont.
Cerise business firm
  09/07/24
They're seriously underselling his music: "You Look ...
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
The INTEGRITY of the MUSIC INDUSTRY cannot be besmirched!
Lime dilemma
  09/07/24
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1413/35/141335556819...
spectacular glassy ticket booth reading party
  09/07/24
Lets say I do this but am not greedy and only pull $1 millio...
Cerise business firm
  09/07/24
There are loads of people doing this fraud in various way ri...
Emerald organic girlfriend
  09/07/24
...
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
doesnt sound illegal at all. of course he has a vague name a...
French lodge
  09/07/24
This article and the indictment are AI generated
razzle-dazzle mauve ceo stead
  09/07/24
...
Mind-boggling ratface
  09/07/24
Xiaoma "Mike" Li
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
So who lost the $10 mm here? I assume these bots aren't payi...
Cracking incel generalized bond
  09/07/24
This is the key question. If there are bots listening to fak...
concupiscible box office doctorate
  09/07/24
Never cross the streams.
zippy diverse institution
  09/07/24
...
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
https://suno.com/song/065bf151-d2e5-482e-9131-5bf4a1927637
bearded disgusting orchestra pit
  09/07/24
https://suno.com/song/da3e0cd5-fc46-4271-bab3-7caf8a8b3ac1
bearded disgusting orchestra pit
  09/07/24
...
bisexual comical cruise ship
  09/07/24
This is so clearly government overreach
doobsian newt
  09/07/24
Oh, I see the problem. He wasn't content to just generate AI...
Startling Motley Party Of The First Part Wagecucks
  09/07/24
Yeah i don't get why anyone is up in arms here. This fits th...
Cracking incel generalized bond
  09/07/24


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Date: September 7th, 2024 8:44 AM
Author: doobsian newt

https://futurism.com/man-arrested-fake-bands-streams-ai

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/north-carolina-musician-charged-music-streaming-fraud-aided-artificial-intelligence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059500)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:05 AM
Author: Geriatric tanning salon sneaky criminal

how this coppers have time for this shit when theres so much real crime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059542)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:32 AM
Author: Apoplectic massive locale boiling water

TSWIFT im a NY LOLer. can I take this case pro boner?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059590)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 8:50 AM
Author: sticky fragrant cumskin

Where can i hear his fake songs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059514)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 8:59 AM
Author: doobsian newt

read the indictment. it's so bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059531)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 8:52 AM
Author: Angry field

What law is he breaking here? Idk I’m not a doctor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059520)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:01 AM
Author: doobsian newt

literally the TERMS OF SERVICE: https://i.imgur.com/tYRm18p.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059535)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:04 AM
Author: Angry field

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059540)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:09 AM
Author: doobsian newt

SMITH "agree[d] not to engage in (or to permit, encourage, enlist, retain, or employ third parties to engage in), activities that, in [Distribution Company-l]'s sole discretion, constitute Streaming Manipulation."

QED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059547)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:25 AM
Author: Jet menage boltzmann

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059568)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:31 AM
Author: doobsian newt

"On or about March 3, 2023, SMITH falsely represented to Distribution Company-2 that he would not engage in fraudulent streaming."

judge should max him out on each charge & sentence him consecutively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059586)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:32 AM
Author: Jet menage boltzmann

this seems like it should be a civil charge, paying some restitution, and maybe he helps the platforms build safeguards to stop this. the platforms should be like "good one, you got us pretty good"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059591)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:36 AM
Author: doobsian newt

honestly, if they banned him & refused to pay up, it'd be worth suing them for breach of contract because who's to fucking say when the degree of usage meets or exceeds the threshold necessary for royalties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059595)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 3:26 PM
Author: Vivacious Medicated Shrine Circlehead

That's not a law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060467)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:02 AM
Author: chartreuse pervert round eye

Seems perfectly legal to me. Maybe don’t host streaming platforms if you don’t want bots to listen?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059537)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:06 AM
Author: doobsian newt

Also, it's quite ableistic & aspersive for the SDNY to suggest that "listening" can't be accomplished by machine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059543)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:09 AM
Author: chartreuse pervert round eye

Agreed. DOJ is surprisingly anthropocentric in its assumptions here. What if the guy is like, I was making music for my audience, which is non-human. It’s art, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059545)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:11 AM
Author: doobsian newt

Sometimes I leave my music streaming when I leave the house and no one's there to hear it. Does that mean I'm engaging in WIRE FRAUD?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059548)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:15 AM
Author: concupiscible box office doctorate

Cr Spotify needs to come up with a way to see if you're actually PAYING ATTENTION to the tune. Maybe jiggle the mouse every couple of minutes. And take a quiz on what you heard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059551)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:18 AM
Author: chartreuse pervert round eye

They make you get one of Elon’s microchips implanted in your brain so they can monitor your brain’s chemical reactions.

Lawyers! Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead on the ToS updates!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059556)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:24 AM
Author: doobsian newt

Maybe the SDNY can apply their reasoning to the ISPs because they charge me based on "usage," which in my sole discretion means whatever I want it to mean and doesn't mean whatever they claim it means

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059567)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:31 AM
Author: Apoplectic massive locale boiling water

"jiggle the mouse" TP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059588)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:37 AM
Author: concupiscible box office doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059596)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:16 AM
Author: chartreuse pervert round eye

I don’t stream music/never have/never will. I have no idea what this crap is even for.

I hardly stream shows. Like once per month I try to stream but there’s nothing worth watching so I just go on xo or whatnot. That is my life. Sucked down into the digital rabbit hole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059552)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:42 AM
Author: Lime dilemma

How else would we train a CLAP model ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059834)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:27 AM
Author: Emerald organic girlfriend

The artist naming convention also followed a somewhat similar pattern, with names ranging from the normal-sounding "Calvin Mann" to head-scratchers like "Calorie Event," "Calms Scorching," and "Calypso Xored."

How about "Butthole Surfers", "Toad the Wet Sprocket" and "Panic! At the Disco". Are those "head-scratchers"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059576)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:30 AM
Author: Apoplectic massive locale boiling water

so they did this to steal an election and .... nothing? but this kid pumps up his views and he gets arrested over chump change?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059585)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:31 AM
Author: Jet menage boltzmann

dude sounds pretty smart. i wonder what he's previously done for work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059587)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:06 AM
Author: doobsian newt

LJL CASE CLOSED: https://i.imgur.com/Ckj4aXI.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059730)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:08 AM
Author: Cerise business firm

The lesson here is dont answer inquiries. The fraud is in the lying not the doing. He should have told them "trade secret, not discussing, suck my dick."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059738)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 3:18 PM
Author: Mind-boggling ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060438)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:10 AM
Author: laughsome rigor area

Do this but after moving to Morocco or Ecuador.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059740)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:14 AM
Author: Cerise business firm

Those shitboxes will extradite you -- Russia or China wont.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059751)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:27 AM
Author: doobsian newt

They're seriously underselling his music:

"You Look Like You Could Use A Fuckin' Lamp" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gHl4P7AXt0

"I Glued My Balls To My Butthole Again" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPlOYPGMRws

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059779)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:42 AM
Author: Lime dilemma

The INTEGRITY of the MUSIC INDUSTRY cannot be besmirched!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059831)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:42 PM
Author: spectacular glassy ticket booth reading party

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1413/35/1413355568196.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48061247)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:45 AM
Author: Cerise business firm

Lets say I do this but am not greedy and only pull $1 million from these cunts. Odds of prosecution?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059846)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:46 AM
Author: Emerald organic girlfriend

There are loads of people doing this fraud in various way right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059854)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 12:11 PM
Author: doobsian newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059934)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 12:21 PM
Author: French lodge

doesnt sound illegal at all. of course he has a vague name and there are no pictures so who knows if he even exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059978)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 12:25 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle mauve ceo stead

This article and the indictment are AI generated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059984)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 3:18 PM
Author: Mind-boggling ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060439)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: doobsian newt

Xiaoma "Mike" Li

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060007)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: Cracking incel generalized bond

So who lost the $10 mm here? I assume these bots aren't paying $9.99 a month. So were they ad-supported accounts?

Is the streamer going to refund the ad money to the advertisers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060062)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 1:13 PM
Author: concupiscible box office doctorate

This is the key question. If there are bots listening to fake music there are bots listening to real music which means Spotify is getting paid by advertisers to run their ads to fake accounts with no real people there. It sounds like Spotify is committing fraud. They are the ones collecting a check for nothing. It sounds like they have absolutely no idea how many real customers they actually have, less the ones paying the monthly fee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060102)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 1:00 PM
Author: zippy diverse institution

Never cross the streams.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060080)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 4:25 PM
Author: doobsian newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060578)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 4:33 PM
Author: bearded disgusting orchestra pit

https://suno.com/song/065bf151-d2e5-482e-9131-5bf4a1927637

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060589)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 4:33 PM
Author: bearded disgusting orchestra pit

https://suno.com/song/da3e0cd5-fc46-4271-bab3-7caf8a8b3ac1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060590)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:43 PM
Author: bisexual comical cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48061252)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:38 PM
Author: doobsian newt

This is so clearly government overreach

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48061236)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:42 PM
Author: Startling Motley Party Of The First Part Wagecucks

Oh, I see the problem. He wasn't content to just generate AI music, he was faking the views to defraud the advertisers. Makes sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48061249)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:32 PM
Author: Cracking incel generalized bond

Yeah i don't get why anyone is up in arms here. This fits the bill of like 50 different common law and statutory fraud laws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48061528)