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Delta plane just flipped over while landing in Toronto
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:04 PM Author: Comical Doctorate https://x.com/kelliemeyernews/status/1891578093749362816?s=46
https://x.com/hexdlinenews/status/1891578454589493714?s=46
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:14 PM Author: Spruce stage Friend, gravity is just another cog in the Mahchine™.
Planes may flip, but the Great Becumming™ continues.
Enjoy the turbulence. |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Spruce stage Subject: Evan39 (Everything is fine… just fine.) Alright, let’s get this straight.
A Delta flight flips upside down in Toronto. Boomers and Flyertalk autists immediately declare it a conspiracy. Paralegal Mohammad blames Trump. Someone thinks this is Canadian terrorism (???) A lap child is critically injured, leading to the most autistic safety debate since the “Seatbelt on Public Transit” thread. And the only real takeaway from all of this is… I should have been on that plane.
Because let’s be honest, there’s no escape from the grind. You survive the crash? Great, enjoy your two-hour wait at Canadian Customs before an RBC intern in a polyester suit hands you a voucher for an airport Tim Hortons. You die? Even better, your estate will receive an aggressively lowball settlement from Delta’s legal team before your next of kin cashes out and spends it on a leased BMW.
And yet, here we are—debating whether the pilot was a diversity hire or if this was part of a Boomer insurance fraud scheme. The Mahchine™ keeps running. Some lib is typing up a LinkedIn post about “bravery in adversity” while a Delta PR flack drafts the world’s most tepid statement about their commitment to safety.
Meanwhile, I’m still recalibrating Club Card thresholds at Safeway, watching Tabitha deep-throat a Meatball Marinara while informing me that “Seating arrangements are a microaggression.” She wins. I lose.
The Delta passengers got a peak experience. I got another shift in purgatory.
Everything is fine. Just fine. |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 12:30 AM Author: Spruce stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670639) |
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Date: February 19th, 2025 5:29 AM Author: rebellious jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48673621) |
Date: February 17th, 2025 3:05 PM Author: Comical Doctorate How does this even happen?
https://x.com/newschannel3now/status/1891579092824137751?s=46 |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:06 PM Author: Rusted know-it-all orchestra pit kitty lol ok what the fuck is going on, are tech bros fucking up something here? they're always fucking up something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668885) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:06 PM Author: Chestnut Address Mad-dog Skullcap Trump gutted the FFA and now planes are crashing. Wow I wonder what's happening???? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668887) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:27 PM Author: razzle-dazzle olive school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669014) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:30 PM Author: Razzle Slate National (jewish, blackpilling, etc etc etc) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669028) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 8:54 PM Author: Jet-lagged avocado voyeur I don’t think the Future Farmers of America have anything to do with this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670019) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 11:59 PM Author: marvelous federal hall wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670588) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 5:00 PM Author: Aromatic Ladyboy Generation of shit pilots (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669300) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 6:15 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor is it pilot error, or ATC? shouldn't ATC close down the runway if the crosswinds were bad enough to have a risk of this sort of shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669558) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 3:38 AM Author: Aromatic Ladyboy It was 28G35 and not a direct crosswind. Sporty but not suicidal. I’d have to check max crosswind component for that aircraft with a contaminated runway, but they should have been able to land. Beyond that, the pilot was aware of the wind speed and direction and if they felt it was unsafe to continue the approach they should have demanded another runway or diverted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670756) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 4:35 AM Author: trip senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670778) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: Stimulating hell this is all part of a boomer insurance fraud scheme
these planes are all old af and too expensive to replace/repair so you let them all crash and burn and get them on the goyim's bill |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: Wonderful business firm windy as fuck and pilots are dogshit thanks to libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669800) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:06 PM Author: obsidian chapel twinkling uncleanness wait, we already annexed canada? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668886) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:07 PM Author: Comical Doctorate RSF what kind of settlement are these people likely to get? No deaths apparently, only minor injuries and some emotional trauma. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668893) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:07 PM Author: Rusted know-it-all orchestra pit kitty must be like a manna from heaven for old mitch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668894) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:08 PM Author: Razzle Slate National what in the fuck is going on here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668896) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:09 PM Author: Hairraiser Set no deaths I"m surprised the seatbelts actually make a difference in stressed conditions like this |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:10 PM Author: Charismatic heaven Doobs was the pilot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668905) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:16 PM Author: Comical Doctorate Reminder, libs: it’s only relevant if the pilot is nonwhite and/or female. Otherwise it’s just an unavoidable accident, shit happens, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668939) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:17 PM Author: Rusted know-it-all orchestra pit kitty "mental illness" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668946) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:17 PM Author: Hairraiser Set oh will you please shut the FUCK up for once jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668948) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:17 PM Author: ruby bearded space libs are actually seething that this didnt happen in the us so they can blame it on doge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668958) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 4:59 PM Author: vermilion stead messiness delta is a canadian airline now, trumpkin? the mississippi empties into the hudson bay and not the gulf of america? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669297) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 5:06 PM Author: ruby bearded space sup wajahat ali (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669321) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:26 PM Author: dashing twinkling psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669009) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:24 PM Author: mint beady-eyed market Peak experience (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48668997) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: Spruce stage cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670037) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 3:31 PM Author: charcoal quadroon fanboi libs are really going out of their way to "resist" Trump these days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669032) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 5:49 PM Author: Soul-stirring free-loading goal in life sex offender maybe the pilots were in a RUSH... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669449) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 1:18 PM Author: Soul-stirring free-loading goal in life sex offender was really hoping someone would blank bump this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48671756) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 5:57 PM Author: Comical Doctorate https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1891615424942391570?s=46 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669474) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 6:05 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor ATC audio:
https://youtu.be/NiUC8h4pkcs |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: pale church building ape Crazy that it went ass over nose instead of rolling sideways. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669512) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 7:34 PM Author: disturbing international law enforcement agency yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669823) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 6:08 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor vid from inside the plane:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGMEswSp9Vk/ |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 6:09 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor lol flyertalk:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/602x334/delta_air_lines_plane_crash_f3c13fde9c43184613e4d3dafd4f891daa5c8018.jpg |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 6:09 PM Author: pearl indian lodge antidepressant drug Is this Canadian terrorism? is this a casus belli? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669529) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 6:10 PM Author: Boyish carmine boistinker sandwich Kendrick is crazy for this one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669531) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 6:24 PM Author: Razzle Slate National (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669593) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 6:13 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor FT reporting a lap child is critically injured, and is ranting about the long-allowed retardation of allowing lap childs not to be secured in seats (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669546) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 12:34 AM Author: cobalt autistic cruise ship Laps child (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670663) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 6:15 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor jfc FT is so faggy:
I am placing a temporary lock on this thread until I have a chance to clean up some posts. Thank you for your understanding.
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:33 PM Author: Bipolar mind-boggling mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670387) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 7:18 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor Alright folks... reopening the thread. Can we please abide by a couple of groundrules? No humor or attempts at humor. Several passengers are critically injured and 80 people almost lost their lives today. Please hold down the speculation. Despite the fact Aunt Betty in Ottumwa IA knows a pilot who used to fly for AirTran doesn't mean they're right. Leave it to the professionals. Politics and irrelevant discussions about employees have no place on FT outside of Omni/PR. Wanna talk about that stuff? Take it there.
As always, thank you to everyone who used the "Report Bad Post" function (triangle thingy on the bottom left of the posts) to highlight the issues with this thread. It was VERY helpful and kept the thread mostly civil.
Thank you! |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 8:39 PM Author: vermilion stead messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669970) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 7:33 PM Author: appetizing sexy theatre Was this due to ice, or high wind during landing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48669822) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: Spruce stage Peak experience (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670038) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:09 PM Author: gold galvanic idiot theater https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkCOyAeXYAAj_yT?format=png&name=small (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670288) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 7:46 AM Author: fluffy hideous parlour filthpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670894) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 8:53 AM Author: Chocolate Cowardly Private Investor Associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670950) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 8:57 AM Author: mint beady-eyed market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670953) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:15 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor 1st vid of the landing:
https://www.tmz.com/2025/02/17/delta-air-lines-crash-landing-impact-video/ |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:19 PM Author: appetizing sexy theatre That landing seemed steep as fuck. I'm guessing landing gear snapped off? How did it end up flipped over? Did a wing break off? And aren't landings normally computer controlled? What would make them come in that hard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670344) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:23 PM Author: ruby bearded space the plane lost both wings. there was a strong crosswind that probably made the landing difficult. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670361) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:28 PM Author: appetizing sexy theatre Not an aviation masterman, but would a crosswind lead to landing so steeply? I thought it had more to do with affecting how "straight" they land (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670369) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 11:04 PM Author: ruby bearded space idk i dont think theyve said anything about what went wrong but the weather conditions seem like the obvious red flag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670474) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 11:46 PM Author: painfully honest shitlib Possibly too steep and slow made for hard landing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670556) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 3:46 AM Author: Aromatic Ladyboy IIRC they were landing 23 with winds 27028G35. You want to ideally touch down on the main gear on the upwind side first and it looks like that’s what he’s trying to do but he either overcontrols or gets a strong gust and sticks a wingtip. Can’t see from there but that force and the momentum probably rip that wing off and send the plane on it’s way to flipping over. Amazing the fuselage held together with all that force and everyone made it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670759) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:25 PM Author: Massive stag film NBC News: it happened in Canada and has no relation to the FAA but it's kind of Trump's fault.
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1891597979355660568 |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:34 PM Author: Exhilarant navy whorehouse this is what happens when u have birdshit male pilots (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670390) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:43 PM Author: appetizing sexy theatre Whites: Yeager, Lindbergh, Sully, the Red Baron
Asians: Kamikaze pilots
Indians: Still working on indoor plumbing |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:46 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor blacks: trayvon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670438) |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 11:53 PM Author: Exhilarant navy whorehouse Birdshits have to always live in the past, WE WAZ KANGZ. They dont want to admit the decline of Birdshits. There is no Birdshit Lingbergh today, he prob wld be a Pajeet or Chung if there is one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670572) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 2:25 PM Author: claret rough-skinned crackhouse sully: lands on a dime
chung: plane goes missing
pajeet: successfully slams into two world trade center buildings |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:45 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor ft discussing pax timing their upside down jumps:
Originally Posted by RCyyz Makes me wonder, how exactly does one safely remove a seatbelt when that's the only thing keeping you in place? I would imagine that more than one pax banged their head when the belts were finally undone. ! I was trying to visualize that and someone with good upper body strength and flexibility could probably do some sort of Spider-Man move and brace themselves against the arm rests and seat back in front of them.
This is one rare area where the relatively low ceilings of regional jets is an advantage- less distance to fall as you try to get right side up.
But once the first 2-3 people get out, then they can probably support and assist others as they’re extracted. |
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Date: February 17th, 2025 10:57 PM Author: appetizing sexy theatre At least a few probably had the belt loose enough they could shimmy out in a controlled fashion. If I was less scrupulous, I would've shimmied out and pretended I hurt my neck and back upon landing. Get some of that RSF daddy money type shit. I'm sure a lot of the injured people are in that category, but thoughts and prayers to the truly injured 🙏 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670462) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 12:13 AM Author: Grizzly pisswyrm station upside down is the new right side up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670610) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 8:16 AM Author: Exhilarant navy whorehouse direct vid of entire crash, seems totally normal except he didnt flare and hit the runway hard. ljl @ planes, wat garbage made out of like plastic or some shit
https://x.com/BNONews/status/1891838031415386541 |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 8:47 AM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor holy shit how did everyone not die from this fireball? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670945) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 9:02 AM Author: Exhilarant navy whorehouse some fag said cause the wings broke off it was safer cause they have all the fuel
im sorta pissed, wld be 180 seeing a HUGE fireball right on that snow and stuff, wld be gorgeous |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 9:43 AM Author: trip senate fucckkkkk
the horror of that angle and thinking the whole plane was burning |
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Date: February 19th, 2025 5:50 AM Author: Razzmatazz buff codepig “She” didn’t flare …. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48673625) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 8:18 AM Author: peach hospital genital piercing This is a story all about how... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670916) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 8:59 AM Author: Chocolate Cowardly Private Investor Associate https://x.com/sir12304/status/1891648369661001929
This is my dream. A non lethal airline crash. Never have to work again for the rest of your life |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: Grizzly pisswyrm station nice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48671836) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 9:19 AM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor ft says a female first officer was flying @ landing time:
On the APC forums owned by the same outfit as FT, other pilots said the Captain is an approximately 20 year employee of Endeavor and the FO is newer. They also said based on ATC the female FO was pilot flying, and mail CA pilot monitoring (heard on ATC audio).
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Date: February 18th, 2025 9:23 AM Author: Exhilarant navy whorehouse ljl its a regional shit jet so the FO cld literally be like some 24yo girlpower shrew with 100 flight hours, not flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670986) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 11:13 AM Author: ruby bearded space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48671285) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 9:25 AM Author: mint beady-eyed market big if true. biden's dei lesbian pilots strike again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48670990) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 10:28 AM Author: lime therapy azn Sumon: RSF. Pls respond if Mitch need local counsel for Toronto plane crash (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48671153) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 1:27 PM Author: snowy curious range dat 2 many ice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48671774) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 1:29 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor vid on board of people buckled in upside down:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1891871395748933874 |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 1:30 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor The good news here is that Delta released a statement earlier today indicating "In total, 21 injured passengers were initially transported to local hospitals. As of Tuesday morning, 19 have been released." https://news.delta.com/
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Date: February 18th, 2025 1:41 PM Author: appetizing sexy theatre I'm telling you, most of those were, "damn this airline has deep pockets my neck hurts" type injuries (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48671822) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: hateful fortuitous meteor chandler has the 19 released pax meeting with his chiro tomw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48671837) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 2:42 PM Author: appetizing sexy theatre Handing out neck braces like a blackjack dealer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48671962) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 3:34 PM Author: Comical Doctorate stfu they were literally on a plane that crash landed and flipped over at 150 MPH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48672098) |
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Date: February 18th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: Comical Doctorate Looking at the video, it looks like the right rear landing gear failed and broke off during touchdown. It doesn’t look like the plane came in too hard. Pilots are supposed to put it down “firm” particularly in icy/snowy conditions. The gear should not have given way based on what I see in the video. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48672101) |
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Date: February 19th, 2025 12:58 AM Author: jet philosopher-king dog poop UH OH LIBS
https://x.com/endwokeness/status/1892090162714182050?s=46 |
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Date: February 19th, 2025 5:39 AM Author: rebellious jewess Jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48673622) |
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Date: February 19th, 2025 8:31 AM Author: vermilion stead messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48673811) |
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Date: February 19th, 2025 11:45 AM Author: Grizzly pisswyrm station the red in the upper right is hot is this real? was the toronto flight 'unmanned'? |
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Date: February 19th, 2025 12:58 PM Author: Lascivious cream travel guidebook wrinkle Was the pilot dei or not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48674810) |
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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:36 PM Author: Self-centered Sable Police Squad Stock Car superior anglo culture (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5682124&forum_id=2#48888729) |
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Date: May 5th, 2025 6:43 PM Author: Self-centered Sable Police Squad Stock Car UNITED PULLS FLIGHTS
https://www.audacy.com/1010wins/news/local/newark-airport-radar-loss-left-controllers-blind-for-90-sec |