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Los Angeles City Council unanimously votes to stop LAPD from pulling people over

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Provocative Whorehouse Persian
  05/07/26
Multiple blue cities have done this. I have no idea how it w...
bateful location
  05/07/26
call me crazy, but stopping people for these types of offens...
Provocative Whorehouse Persian
  05/07/26
you're crazy and antisemitic
Razzle Flickering Brunch
  05/07/26
"Wet streets make rain."
Contagious flushed private investor gas station
  05/07/26
fuck the police
spruce background story
  05/07/26
MAGA shitting the bed is going to result in shitlibbery like...
Passionate boiling water hell
  05/07/26
i've marveled at how long Chicago, NYC, and LA can circle th...
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  05/07/26
It's because they cannibalize the resources of their entire ...
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legit lold at non-functioning tail lights - literal death ha...
Big legend hall
  05/07/26
its so mind blowing that I can't possibly understand how eve...
Provocative Whorehouse Persian
  05/07/26
minor stops disproportionately affect Black and brown motori...
glassy outnumbered house
  05/07/26
irrelevant when it comes to driver safety
Provocative Whorehouse Persian
  05/07/26
The stops do little to combat "violent crime." The...
Blue underhanded dragon
  05/07/26
lol you're a loser and your life is a complete dumpster fire
Disturbing Walnut Internal Respiration People Who Are Hurt
  05/07/26
Who cares as long as there is valid reason to pull them over...
gaped aphrodisiac corner partner
  05/07/26
(130 IQ)
glassy outnumbered house
  05/07/26
I prefer a more accurate 85, but I'll take what I can get
gaped aphrodisiac corner partner
  05/08/26
based on where you went to college, a directional state scho...
Sapphire incel wagecucks
  05/07/26
I was joking STEVEN CROWDER
glassy outnumbered house
  05/07/26
Has it ever occurred to you that this might be because black...
stirring honey-headed spot windowlicker
  05/07/26
isn't that already how it works? go to any west coast city ...
tantric fortuitous meteor plaza
  05/07/26
My neighbors (black) in SF drove around an old Toyota Sienna...
glassy outnumbered house
  05/07/26
yep. don't talk to me about shitlibs doing this shitlibs doi...
Dark exciting generalized bond
  05/07/26
lmao, stfu and get lost, you utter freak. somehow it's neve...
tantric fortuitous meteor plaza
  05/07/26
You are Liberal af jfc
cowgod
  05/08/26
I see this all the time in Seattle.
Fighting center
  05/07/26
they really really want Spencer Pratt to be mayor
Fuchsia theater stage
  05/07/26
i havent been to LA since before 2010 and I literally watche...
Provocative Whorehouse Persian
  05/07/26
Bass and Raman could light a Dodger Stadium full of homeless...
razzle-dazzle faggot firefighter
  05/07/26
Jfc
Ungodly marketing idea ratface
  05/07/26
this is true. At least people know now.
Fuchsia theater stage
  05/07/26
Caruso would’ve won easily if he ran again this time. ...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  05/08/26
Ran here. Lucky motherfucker
Ungodly marketing idea ratface
  05/07/26
After watching the hour long debate this morning (which Spen...
Provocative Whorehouse Persian
  05/07/26
Get some marshmallows
Ungodly marketing idea ratface
  05/07/26
To add to the hilarity, Nithta Raman was born in India
razzle-dazzle faggot firefighter
  05/07/26
Lol
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she didn't arrive in LA until 2013, when she started working...
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Wait, I don't understand this part of the argument: Some ...
maize narrow-minded range nowag
  05/07/26
Well you see, cops are fucking pussy pieces of shit
up-to-no-good very tactful school cafeteria
  05/07/26
So you just never need to have license plates?
Thriller University Half-breed
  05/07/26
not anymore, not inside LA city limits
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  05/07/26
If you live in LA you can literally never register your car ...
Provocative Whorehouse Persian
  05/07/26
Florida does it right where they don’t do inspection o...
Fuchsia theater stage
  05/07/26
i dont really care about that but this policy is straight up...
Debunked antisemitic trope
  05/08/26
Good. Its bullshit how cops use a minor traffic violation to...
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Date: May 7th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Provocative Whorehouse Persian

https://x.com/WallStreetMav/status/2052377092805804365

Los Angeles City Council passed a motion unanimously restricting LAPD pretextual traffic stops for minor violations including:

-expired registration tags

-non-functioning tail lights

-cracked windshields

-broken mirrors

-illegal tint

-loud exhaust

-missing plates

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-05-06/lapd-police-pretext-stops-la-city-council

City Council votes to limit LAPD ‘pretextual’ stops blamed for racial discrimination

LAPD officers giving a man a ticket for an expired registration in 2019

LAPD officers ticket a man for having an expired registration in South Los Angeles. (Genaro Molina / Los Angeles Times)

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The L.A. City Council voted to limit ‘pretextual’ stops that been blamed for racial disparities in traffic enforcement.

The measure will not change the LAPD’s policy but requires the Police Commission to take up the matter.

The LAPD chief and others have defended the stops as an essential law enforcement tool against guns, gangs and drugs.

The Los Angeles City Council on Wednesday voted in favor of new restrictions on so-called “pretextual” traffic stops, signaling a growing impatience with the Police Commission’s failure to rein in a controversial LAPD tactic that critics say enables racial discrimination.

The vote requests that the department’s all-civilian watchdog adopt new guidelines similar to San Francisco, which bars police officers from pulling people over for broken taillights and other minor equipment violations unless there is a safety threat.

“Board of Police Commissioners: Get this done; we’re watching, no excuses,” said Councilmember Imelda Padilla, who shared stories of her late father being stopped by police with no explanation. “This is what this generation wants.”

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If the new policy were adopted, LAPD officers would be prohibited from stopping motorists, bicyclists or pedestrians for minor violations “except in cases where the violation poses a significant and imminent safety risk.”

The unanimous vote followed sometimes emotional testimony at a City Council meeting from Angelenos about how their lives had been shaken by discriminatory traffic stops and searches.

Several speakers pointed to a growing body of research showing that minor stops disproportionately affect Black and brown motorists and do little to combat violent crime while eroding public trust. In recent years, there have been several high-profile traffic stops that resulted in officers or drivers being killed.

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The current LAPD policy, in place since 2022, requires officers to record themselves on their body-worn cameras stating the reasons for suspecting a more serious crime had occurred when making a stop for a minor infraction.

The measure passed Wednesday stops short of a categorical ban that some have sought, but was still met with cautious optimism by traffic safety reformers.

“It helps place the city of Los Angeles on a path of ending racial profiling by LAPD,” said Chauncee Smith of Catalyst California, a group that advocates for racial justice.

Smith’s group recently released a report that said such stops have continued to disproportionately affect Black and Latino drivers.

Smith said the new policy advanced by the City Council represents “a more formal, explicit prohibition,” adding that he hopes the Police Commission will ultimately give officers even less discretion in deciding when to make stops.

In a brief statement after the vote, Mayor Karen Bass thanked Marqueece Harris-Dawson, president of L.A. City Council, for his “leadership and dedication in moving this updated policy forward.”

“I will work closely with the Police Commission and Chief [Jim] McDonnell to implement it and to provide officers with appropriate training,” Bass said.

Any changes to the policy will probably draw strong challenges from within the LAPD and the Los Angeles Police Protective League, the powerful union that represents the city’s rank-and-file officers.

McDonnell has publicly defended the stops as an essential law enforcement tool in the department’s fight against guns, gangs and drugs. He and some transportation safety advocates have argued that persistent traffic deaths — road fatalities have in recent years outpaced the number of homicides — indicate the city needs to crack down harder on reckless driving.

The proposed change comes against the backdrop of a broader effort by city leaders to wrest greater oversight of the LAPD from the Police Commission. A spokesperson for the civilian body said it would evaluate how to proceed.

“The Board intends to place this item on a forthcoming agenda to enable a full and transparent discussion of the Department’s pretextual stop policy, which will include the recommendations from the City Council,” the statement said.

In a statement, the LAPD chief said, “I look forward to working with City leaders to strengthen our traffic enforcement strategies and improve public safety across Los Angeles.”

“I respect the City Council’s interest on the issue of pretext stops and welcome the ongoing conversation. The United States Supreme Court has upheld these stops as constitutional, and they remain an important investigative tool in supporting our public safety efforts,” McDonnell said, adding that he would “fully engage” with the Police Commission on the issue moving forward.

The vote was the latest move in a broader push to remove police officers from traffic enforcement. Some advocates have argued that more punitive approaches that prioritize arrests and traffic citations do little to keep city streets safe; instead, they argue the city should invest in unarmed civilian workers and speed bumps, roundabouts and other street modifications that could help curb unsafe driving.

Adrienna Wong, a senior attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, said Wednesday’s vote showed city leaders taking action on an issue that was personal to them.

“I think what you saw today in council was the council members have lived experiences and are hearing from their constituents and are voting to represent their constituents in a way that the Police Commission has not,” she said.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872831)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 4:54 PM
Author: bateful location

Multiple blue cities have done this. I have no idea how it works but they have

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872837)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 4:58 PM
Author: Provocative Whorehouse Persian

call me crazy, but stopping people for these types of offenses penalizes the irresponsible drivers (driving is a privilege BTW) and overall makes the roads safer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872849)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 4:59 PM
Author: Razzle Flickering Brunch

you're crazy and antisemitic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872852)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 4:56 PM
Author: Contagious flushed private investor gas station

"Wet streets make rain."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872843)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 4:57 PM
Author: spruce background story

fuck the police

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872845)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:04 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water hell

MAGA shitting the bed is going to result in shitlibbery like this coming back in a lot of ways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872858)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:13 PM
Author: orchid autistic cuckold nursing home

i've marveled at how long Chicago, NYC, and LA can circle the toilet without ever disintegrating completely. Chicago in particular has been failing for decades.

but a few things have recently made me wonder if a long overdue backlash is brewing. CA, NY, and IL are flat out losing citizens and they know it. Mamdani is driving away the wealthy. if Nithya Raman is elected i expect LA to suffer immediately.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872879)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:52 PM
Author: gaped aphrodisiac corner partner

It's because they cannibalize the resources of their entire state before using their "too big to fail" status at the federal level to keep it going even longer

It wouldn't be so bad if their idiot citizens could understand why they're fleeing. But they don't. So the contagion spreads



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872931)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:05 PM
Author: Big legend hall

legit lold at non-functioning tail lights - literal death hazard for others - and driving a car around with no plates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872859)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:07 PM
Author: Provocative Whorehouse Persian

its so mind blowing that I can't possibly understand how even race hustling leftists could be in favor of this. The only conclusion is that they hate us and want law abiding citizens dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872865)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:11 PM
Author: glassy outnumbered house

minor stops disproportionately affect Black and brown motorists

minor stops disproportionately affect Black and brown motorists

minor stops disproportionately affect Black and brown motorists

minor stops disproportionately affect Black and brown motorists

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872874)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:23 PM
Author: Provocative Whorehouse Persian

irrelevant when it comes to driver safety

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872895)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:47 PM
Author: Blue underhanded dragon

The stops do little to combat "violent crime." Therefore, they don't help driver safety one bit.

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"Several speakers pointed to a growing body of research showing that minor stops disproportionately affect Black and brown motorists and do little to combat violent crime while eroding public trust."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872917)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:48 PM
Author: Disturbing Walnut Internal Respiration People Who Are Hurt

lol you're a loser and your life is a complete dumpster fire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872919)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 6:04 PM
Author: gaped aphrodisiac corner partner

Who cares as long as there is valid reason to pull them over. If there's not a valid reason, then the effort should be to clean out the fucking police rather than to excuse criminality

Another way to look at it is: it's a feature not a bug if traffic violators are disproportionately pulled over for violating traffic laws, regardless of race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872961)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 10:55 PM
Author: glassy outnumbered house

(130 IQ)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49874168)



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Date: May 8th, 2026 12:32 AM
Author: gaped aphrodisiac corner partner

I prefer a more accurate 85, but I'll take what I can get

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49874343)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: Sapphire incel wagecucks

based on where you went to college, a directional state school in a minor square state, I would put your IQ at about 105

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873817)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 10:54 PM
Author: glassy outnumbered house

I was joking STEVEN CROWDER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49874165)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 11:55 PM
Author: stirring honey-headed spot windowlicker

Has it ever occurred to you that this might be because blacks and browns disproportionately break the law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49874296)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:06 PM
Author: tantric fortuitous meteor plaza

isn't that already how it works? go to any west coast city and there will be tons people driving drunk and high with no plates and heavily tinted front windows and windshields. i don't think they ever get stopped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872860)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:13 PM
Author: glassy outnumbered house

My neighbors (black) in SF drove around an old Toyota Sienna with a registration sticker from 2008 (this was in 2011-15).

They were chill though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872877)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:42 PM
Author: Dark exciting generalized bond

yep. don't talk to me about shitlibs doing this shitlibs doing that when all the trump voting cops who live in their little shitty enclaves in simi valley and santa clarita haven't pulled over anyone for any of this shit since at least covid

this is just the city council codifying what's already going on and the police commission probably supports it 100% while they pillage city coffers with their overtime and pensions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872909)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:49 PM
Author: tantric fortuitous meteor plaza

lmao, stfu and get lost, you utter freak. somehow it's never libs' fault what happens under their rule

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872923)



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Date: May 8th, 2026 8:00 AM
Author: cowgod

You are Liberal af jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49874416)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 6:10 PM
Author: Fighting center

I see this all the time in Seattle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872984)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:10 PM
Author: Fuchsia theater stage

they really really want Spencer Pratt to be mayor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872870)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:25 PM
Author: Provocative Whorehouse Persian

i havent been to LA since before 2010 and I literally watched the entire LA Mayor debate this morning. Spencer Pratt is 180, that city council lady is fucking vile (and hates all of us), and Pratt was dunking all over her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872897)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 5:54 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle faggot firefighter

Bass and Raman could light a Dodger Stadium full of homeless orphans on fire and they could still beat Pratt in an election. That’s how shitlibbed LA voters are. If Caruso couldn’t win, Pratt can’t get closer. It’s pretty sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49872940)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 6:52 PM
Author: Ungodly marketing idea ratface

Jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873112)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 10:14 PM
Author: Fuchsia theater stage

this is true. At least people know now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49874003)



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Date: May 8th, 2026 9:58 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


Caruso would’ve won easily if he ran again this time. It’s maddening that he sat out. I am convinced he got a better sense of how retarded the city council is and decided it wasn’t worth his time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49874634)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 6:51 PM
Author: Ungodly marketing idea ratface

Ran here. Lucky motherfucker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873110)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 6:56 PM
Author: Provocative Whorehouse Persian

After watching the hour long debate this morning (which Spencer Pratt DOMINATED), I either want Pratt to win (he won't) or I want that city council bitch to win so we can watch the city burn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873122)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 6:57 PM
Author: Ungodly marketing idea ratface

Get some marshmallows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873126)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:01 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle faggot firefighter

To add to the hilarity, Nithta Raman was born in India

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873134)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:01 PM
Author: Ungodly marketing idea ratface

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873136)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:06 PM
Author: orchid autistic cuckold nursing home

she didn't arrive in LA until 2013, when she started working in a string of jobs that are part of the homeless industrial complex.

her husband made good bank writing for sitcoms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873144)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:01 PM
Author: orchid autistic cuckold nursing home



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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:04 PM
Author: snowy naked pit

Sucks for the honest and hardworking guys who make a living restreaming LAPD high speed chase news coverage on twitch and youtube

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873140)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: maize narrow-minded range nowag

Wait, I don't understand this part of the argument:

Some stops have resulted in OFFICERS being killed.

How does that support the idea that we shouldn't do these stops? Doesn't this mean that sometimes these minor stops could help capture VIOLENT people?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873711)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 9:23 PM
Author: up-to-no-good very tactful school cafeteria

Well you see, cops are fucking pussy pieces of shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873720)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 9:40 PM
Author: Thriller University Half-breed

So you just never need to have license plates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873796)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Sapphire incel wagecucks

not anymore, not inside LA city limits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873818)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 9:59 PM
Author: Provocative Whorehouse Persian

If you live in LA you can literally never register your car or get a tag and it's NBD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49873922)



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Date: May 7th, 2026 10:17 PM
Author: Fuchsia theater stage

Florida does it right where they don’t do inspection or emissions bullshit but as long as you keep your registration/insurance up to date and can start your car you can drive it. very sane approach in an insane world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49874024)



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Date: May 8th, 2026 9:45 AM
Author: Debunked antisemitic trope

i dont really care about that but this policy is straight up "come steal our cars"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49874612)



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Date: May 8th, 2026 2:05 AM
Author: Slippery Diverse Mediation

Good. Its bullshit how cops use a minor traffic violation to search the car for something else. Sorry, I'm a bit of a 4th Amendment purist like that. If you pull someone over for speeding and they also have an expired tag, cite them for it, but pulling someone over for this bullshit when they are otherwise just minding their business is gay as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864703&forum_id=2#49874398)



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Date: May 8th, 2026 8:08 AM
Author: cowgod

Is it unconstitutional to just have cities be undemocratic and ruled by shrewd despots? Would the US or state constitution interfere?

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Short answer: no, it’s not *automatically* unconstitutional for cities to be run in a very undemocratic way. American local government is weirder and more contingent than people assume. Cities are not sovereign little republics. They are creatures of the state. The state can rearrange them pretty aggressively.

But there are layers.

At the federal constitutional level, the big constraint is the Equal Protection Clause and voting-rights jurisprudence. Once a state *creates* elections, it generally has to do them fairly: one person, one vote, racial discrimination prohibitions, etc. The Supreme Court has also treated some local offices as requiring democratic accountability if they exercise broad governmental powers.

But the Constitution does *not* explicitly guarantee that every local government must be fully democratic in the intuitive sense people imagine. There are already strange quasi-authoritarian pockets all over America:

* emergency managers taking over bankrupt cities

* appointed school boards

* state-controlled oversight commissions

* unelected utility districts

* port authorities

* special districts with bizarre voting rules

* receiverships

* public authorities that function like mini-states

Rhode Island literally had a state-appointed receiver effectively run Central Falls during its fiscal collapse. Washington, D.C. itself is constitutionally weird and historically had long stretches with limited self-government.

The deeper issue is usually state constitutions. Many state constitutions explicitly require republican/local representative government structures, elected officials, home rule provisions, or municipal election rules. So whether “shrewd despot mayor-for-life” works legally depends less on the US Constitution and more on whether the state constitution tolerates it.

And then there’s political culture. Americans tolerate technocracy during crises *far* more than they tolerate openly anti-democratic aesthetics. If you called someone “Supreme Municipal Administrator,” people would lose their minds. If you call the same person an “Emergency Financial Control Coordinator,” suddenly the newspapers nod gravely while pensions get vaporized. Same animal, different tie.

There’s also an old American contradiction here that nobody likes to admit: the country was founded with enormous distrust of direct democracy. The Senate was originally indirectly elected. The Electoral College exists. Judges are insulated. The founders feared mobs almost as much as kings. So the system already contains anti-majoritarian machinery everywhere. It’s just usually hidden under layers of procedural oatmeal.

The funny thing is that many large cities are already run by semi-permanent managerial castes anyway. Not despots exactly. More like an ecosystem of developers, agencies, unions, consultants, bond lawyers, procurement people, nonprofits, and entrenched administrators who survive election after election while mayors come and go like seasonal décor. The machine becomes the ruler. Very American form of soft oligarchy. No cape required.

A genuine formal “city despot” model would probably run into problems if:

* citizens had no meaningful representation whatsoever

* voting rights were stripped discriminatorily

* state constitutional guarantees required elected governance

* due process/property rights got trampled

* federal civil-rights law was implicated

But a heavily centralized, technocratic, semi-appointed urban regime? That is much more constitutionally plausible than people instinctively think. America already contains fragments of it scattered everywhere like little administrative principalities hiding behind PDF reports and pension studies.



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