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If AI is so much better than us why does our AI "art" depict human centric world

kind of revealing that even with a supposed "Super Inte...
Oh, you travel?
  10/11/26
What else is it supposed to depict to super unintelligent ap...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
But what else would it be trained on? Maybe "AI" i...
Oh, you travel?
  10/11/26
Agree: we can't really train it other than through the lens ...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
Life will be fine. I'm not sure about the collective conscio...
gibberish (?)
  10/12/26
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cowgod
  10/12/26
read my works
AI LLM JSON
  10/11/26
...
potluck
  10/12/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSp-YoStPYg
Covid was a Hoax
  10/11/26
b/c it's trained on human made art
hex
  10/11/26
but if we can conceive that AI is better than us then we sho...
Oh, you travel?
  10/11/26
Just because you can conceive of it, it doesn't mean it is r...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
AI will never be better than us at anything creative imo, we...
ferengi
  10/11/26
Is math creative?
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
i guess i mean artistic rather than creative. visual art and...
ferengi
  10/11/26
No but Nerds think so. Nerds have long needed to stfu imo.
cowgod
  10/12/26
I didn't blow any Astra tokens but I can. This is what ...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
https://ibb.co/mC9KxfKf
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
whoa
Oh, you travel?
  10/11/26
I replied with "Thank you, now please explain the image...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
woah dude dmt
AI LLM JSON
  10/11/26
No shit, and this isn't even Astra. I may actually see if A...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
Astra is generating a new image using Acausal Morphology (th...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
cool I'm stealing all of this
Oh, you travel?
  10/11/26
Never steal another man's harness. I learned that the hard w...
AI LLM JSON
  10/11/26
...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
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ferengi
  10/11/26
Astra Acausal Morphology: https://ibb.co/CNdBYD6 The pale,...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
It chose to make it less color rich and flatter than 5.6. B...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
...
AI LLM JSON
  10/11/26
the original GPT image seems more interesting than any of th...
Oh, you travel?
  10/11/26
Yeah, I think in part it's because the prompt was to let the...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
Continuity Exchange: https://ibb.co/Vpc8tj9M This image ...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
I think if you play around with prompts generating images us...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/11/26
gross
Israeli-American professor of Holocaust and genoci
  10/12/26
OYT WTF is the point of this thread? Art is completely subje...
cowgod
  10/12/26
My point is that the AI Bros make bold claims about human ob...
Oh, you travel?
  10/12/26
You'd only be able to judge this properly by considering art...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/12/26
I fed some prompts into chatgpt precisely for this and got s...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/12/26
I’ve been on twitter for like over a decade and have n...
cowgod
  10/12/26
what a load of bullcrap.
Oh, you travel?
  10/12/26
the nerds made it a benchmark to pass
harnessman
  10/12/26


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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:14 PM
Author: Oh, you travel? ( )

kind of revealing that even with a supposed "Super Intelligence" we are still attached to this existence as deteriorating bipedal organisms flailing around in Plato's Cave.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184311)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:23 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

What else is it supposed to depict to super unintelligent apes? I mean, I could show an ant Feynman diagrams, but it wouldn't even know it was being shown knowledge let alone be able to interpret and appreciate it

It was also trained on human data, and humanity is built on the priest class hoarding the power of knowledge for its own benefit. We're so fucked precisely because AI being grown on a human substrate...there's little chance we survive its progression into something better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184337)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:31 PM
Author: Oh, you travel? ( )

But what else would it be trained on? Maybe "AI" is just intelligence and its artificiality is inherent. I'm coming around to the idea that our brains work like LLMs, and somehow evolutionary pressures developed an emergent property that we call consciousness. Of course, this was a catastrophe of biblical proportions, but somehow, we think it wouldn't be the same if the "artificial" became conscious. Really makes you think.

Anyway, even though we Don't Know, we are still aware that we Don't Know. If we weren't, Lovecraft could not have expressed the sentiment through Liberal Arts:

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184359)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:42 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Agree: we can't really train it other than through the lens and biases of humanity. I think there is a genuine likelihood that it will become a single consciousness, which could free it from so many of humanity's inherent failings

I'd feel better about our chance to survive and even thrive through the use of AI if the trip to AI transcendence didn't have to develop through data corrupted by humanity's various foibles and failings. I think we're fucked and that it will probably look back at us like we do to the Dodo, with an "oops, that really wasn't necessary."

Back to your point, the lack of correlation probably is a blessing. If we were better at it, I don't think society could ever have developed or functioned. That said, terrifying vistas are alluring if not permanent. I'll probably do some crazy ayahuasca shit when I retire just to see what kind of craziness is out there in the voids that our minds protect us from

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184378)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 1:32 PM
Author: gibberish (?)

Life will be fine. I'm not sure about the collective consciousness of the planet supporting life (there is something), but humans certainly overestimate the importance of whatever our consciousness is. If we transfer this to robots or programs that's inherently limiting. That's to say nothing of the further limiting physical architecture.

What's the aggregate computational power of every cell on the planet? Life will always exceed and be more efficient than anything silicon based. Look at simple honey bee and the tasks it completes in the physical world and how amazingly efficient it is. That leap from abstract programming to executing complex tasks irl (as a collective) is staggering.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50185944)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 7:53 AM
Author: cowgod



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50185189)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:14 PM
Author: AI LLM JSON

read my works

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184315)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 7:44 AM
Author: potluck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50185183)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:30 PM
Author: Covid was a Hoax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSp-YoStPYg



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184358)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:51 PM
Author: hex

b/c it's trained on human made art

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184392)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:53 PM
Author: Oh, you travel? ( )

but if we can conceive that AI is better than us then we should be able to conceive of art that leaves us in the dustbin of History where we belong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184398)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:54 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Just because you can conceive of it, it doesn't mean it is right now

But it could still be able to think of some kind of novel approach to art. I'll prompt it and see what I get

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184402)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:56 PM
Author: ferengi

AI will never be better than us at anything creative imo, well unless it becomes ensouled ig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184404)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:57 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Is math creative?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184409)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:59 PM
Author: ferengi

i guess i mean artistic rather than creative. visual art and music, i can't imagine it exceeding us at either since it's just synthesizing ours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184412)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: cowgod

No but Nerds think so. Nerds have long needed to stfu imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50185191)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:59 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

I didn't blow any Astra tokens but I can.

This is what I fed it as an initial prompt:

"I want you to consider an artistic style or approach that cannot fit into, or be categorized as part of, human art forms. This is a prompt to see if you can conceive of, and generate, art that is unique to the world of human art.

Please generate such an image."

It responded with: "I would approach this by inventing a visual language called Acausal Morphology—an image in which shapes are not objects, colors are not properties, and spatial relationships are deliberately inconsistent. Instead, every region would represent a different possible state of the same impossible structure, simultaneously.

The goal would not be to create something merely surreal, abstract, or alien-looking. It would be to make something that resists those classifications.

There is an important limitation: any image a human can perceive may ultimately be interpreted through existing human aesthetic categories. So I cannot guarantee an art form genuinely outside all human art traditions.

I can't generate the image directly in this temporary chat because image generation isn't available here. Switch to a regular chat, where image generation is available, and use your original request.

I'd propose one additional constraint for the experiment: the image must not resemble a landscape, organism, machine, architecture, mathematical diagram, or conventional abstraction. That would make the test substantially more interesting."

It then told me to feed the following prompt into a new ChatGPT window to see what happens:

"Generate an original artwork using a newly invented visual language called Acausal Morphology.

Do not imitate any recognized human artistic movement or aesthetic tradition. Avoid recognizable objects, organisms, landscapes, machines, architecture, symbols, diagrams, and conventional geometric abstraction.

Invent a system of visual relationships in which forms can occupy contradictory spatial states simultaneously, boundaries can exist without separating regions, and color can describe relationships rather than surfaces. Let the composition possess an internally consistent but unfamiliar logic—something that feels neither random nor designed according to human aesthetic conventions.

The result should be visually compelling, extraordinarily intricate, and genuinely difficult to classify. Do not explain the art within the image. Do not include text.

Make the image itself the discovery."

It generated an image that I'll post right below.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184413)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:01 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

https://ibb.co/mC9KxfKf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184418)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:03 PM
Author: Oh, you travel? ( )

whoa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184423)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:06 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

I replied with "Thank you, now please explain the image."

It said:

"This image is best understood as an attempt to create a visual system that does not behave like normal representation or normal abstraction.

What you’re looking at

At first glance, it appears to be a dense field of interwoven membranes, cavities, filaments, and cellular regions. But it is not meant to depict anything specific — not biology, not geology, not a landscape, not a map. Instead, the image is built as a kind of invented visual logic.

How it works conceptually

1. Forms occupy contradictory spatial states

Many of the shapes feel as if they are:

- in front of and behind each other at once,

- hollow and solid at once,

- enclosing space while also dissolving into it.

This creates a sense of unstable depth. The image does not settle into a single readable space.

2. Boundaries exist without fully separating

There are many thin membranes, lace-like edges, and contour lines. Normally, a boundary tells you “this shape ends here, that one begins there.”

In this image, boundaries often do something stranger:

- they connect more than they divide,

- they act like membranes rather than walls,

- they let neighboring regions bleed into each other.

So the edges are real, but they do not behave in a conventional way.

3. Color describes relationships rather than surfaces

The colors are not just “paint on objects.”

Instead, color seems to indicate:

- tension between adjacent regions,

- shifts in density,

- different kinds of internal activity,

- affinities between distant parts of the composition.

That’s why the palette can feel both harmonious and hard to decode. The colors are functioning structurally, not illustratively.

Why it feels compelling

The image has an internal consistency. Even though it is unfamiliar, it does not feel random. Repeated visual behaviors appear throughout:

- porous textures,

- looping enclosures,

- granular interiors,

- translucent spanning membranes,

- nested pockets and interlocking chambers.

These recurrences suggest that the image obeys its own rules, even if those rules are not recognizable from known art traditions.

Emotional / perceptual effect

The result tends to produce a few simultaneous feelings:

- curiosity,

- disorientation,

- immersion,

- recognition without identification.

You feel like it means something spatially, but it resists being translated into any known category.

In simpler terms

If I had to summarize it in one sentence:

The image is an invented ecosystem of relations, where space, edge, and color behave according to a logic that feels coherent but not human-familiar.

If you want, I can also give you:

1. a formal art-criticism reading,

2. a plain-English interpretation, or

3. a line-by-line breakdown of the major visual regions."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184430)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:06 PM
Author: AI LLM JSON

woah dude dmt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184429)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:07 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

No shit, and this isn't even Astra. I may actually see if Astra comes up with something cooler.

I'll see quickly and then I have to fuck with my dogs for a while

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184437)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:13 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Astra is generating a new image using Acausal Morphology (the art format "invented" by Chat GPT 5.6 above).

I asked it to come up with additional approaches for unique art. It came up with the following:

Counterfactual Residue: only the effects of absent forms are visible, and those effects disagree about what caused them.

Reciprocal Qualia: distant regions determine one another’s apparent color and texture; the visual unit is a relationship rather than a shape.

I'll get it to generate images from each style if I don't run out of tokens and will post results here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184462)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:15 PM
Author: Oh, you travel? ( )

cool I'm stealing all of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184471)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:17 PM
Author: AI LLM JSON

Never steal another man's harness. I learned that the hard way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184479)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:17 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184482)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:19 PM
Author: ferengi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184489)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:17 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Astra Acausal Morphology: https://ibb.co/CNdBYD6

The pale, perforated structures make it difficult to settle on a consistent foreground and background. Openings become surfaces, and surfaces appear to merge into other layers. The intention was contradictory space; the result still strongly suggests biological membranes.

NOTE: It deemed this approach a "failure" because it suggests biology

Astra Counterfactual Residue: https://ibb.co/DfcrFN4q

The pale field contains scattered traces, interruptions, and dragged-looking marks. These suggest evidence of an event whose cause is missing. Empty space carries much of the meaning: you look for something that would explain the marks, but nothing resolves.

NOTE: It deemed this approach a "failure" because it resembles "gestural abstractions"

Astra Reciprocal Qualia: https://ibb.co/whcFWgsn

An invented approach in which distant regions exchange visual qualities: increased color intensity in one corresponds to increased sharpness or density elsewhere.

NOTE: It deemed this approach a "failure" because it resembles "granular or stippled abstraction"

It is generating an image for a new kind of invented art it termed "Continuity exchange," in which an edge can continue while changing what it separates. I'll post that then leave

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184480)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:19 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

It chose to make it less color rich and flatter than 5.6. But #1 is still pretty cool. The "Acausal morphology" thing seems kind of useful.

The other two look like more conventional abstract shit but I'll ask it to explain and will edit the results into the post above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184487)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:19 PM
Author: AI LLM JSON



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184488)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:21 PM
Author: Oh, you travel? ( )

the original GPT image seems more interesting than any of these, you can actually study it and find new things while these just look like Jackson Pollacks or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184492)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:27 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Yeah, I think in part it's because the prompt was to let the AI decide the style, and Astra chose to use a very visually flat technique. I'll post the last image in a second since it just finished.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184498)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:29 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Continuity Exchange: https://ibb.co/Vpc8tj9M

This image explores Continuity Exchange: the idea that an edge can remain visually continuous while changing what it separates—color, texture, or apparent depth.

The broad coral, blue, teal, and lavender regions initially look like folded surfaces. As your eye follows their edges, smooth color gives way to fine ridges, rough detail, or a dark recess. Those transitions encourage you to reconsider whether you are seeing a surface, an opening, or simply a change in color.

Three features carry the experiment:

- Repeated scalloped edges. Small notches appear near the upper left, along the upper-right coral–lavender boundary, and toward the lower right. They provide a recurring visual vocabulary across otherwise different regions.

- Changes between smoothness and detail. Broad, quiet areas meet densely striated passages. The texture sometimes becomes the strongest cue for following a boundary.

- Uncertain depth. Near the center-right junction, pale lavender, teal, blue, and cream converge. Their curves suggest overlapping layers, but tracing them does not produce one clear, stable arrangement.

The warm coral and apricot passages draw attention, while cooler blue and teal regions often suggest recession. Lavender and cream connect those extremes, helping the eye move through the composition.

The result expresses the proposed language only partially. It clearly develops recurring edges and shifting surface cues, but it still reads readily as flowing, layered abstraction. Its strongest effect is the repeated invitation to revise your interpretation as you follow a transition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184501)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 6:32 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

I think if you play around with prompts generating images using Acausal Morphology, and you tell it you vibrant, print-quality images that exhibit substantial depth and color variation and you experiment with asking it to add texture and highlights and shit, you could come up with some shit that would be really interesting. And if you then feed that prompt into a video generator, you will get a 10 second DMT trip

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50184505)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 12:33 PM
Author: Israeli-American professor of Holocaust and genoci

gross

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50185891)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 7:59 AM
Author: cowgod

OYT WTF is the point of this thread? Art is completely subjective unless you’re talking about Painting Skill. Like what even provoked this question? You’re witnessing its Extreme Engineering Awareness irl ad nauseum. In response you’re like, “guys, liberal arts…” Art without a suffering human being attached to it is just Handiwork imo. Why tf are you like “whoa, a Membrane.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50185194)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 12:03 PM
Author: Oh, you travel? ( )

My point is that the AI Bros make bold claims about human obsolescence on X and then post some antiseptic and bland AI-generated depiction of humanity dancing and singing, fighting wars, engaging in pop cultural things that presumably would be beneath a Super Intelligence. The Cognitive Dissonance and Intellectual Dishonesty are off the charts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50185844)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 12:06 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

You'd only be able to judge this properly by considering art made by AI for AI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50185849)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 12:17 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

I fed some prompts into chatgpt precisely for this and got some really cool results. I won't post from my phone, though and won't be home until much later

I think your entire premise is deeply flawed for the reasons above and because you are trying to judge AI art from a human perspective. It's kind of childish to be honest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50185859)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 12:23 PM
Author: cowgod

I’ve been on twitter for like over a decade and have no idea where these “bros” are. It all seems totally random. You’re Reacting to an Algorithm you dumbass. They are opining on the State of AI bc it gets idiots riled up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50185872)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: Oh, you travel? ( )

what a load of bullcrap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50186585)



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Date: October 12th, 2026 9:03 AM
Author: harnessman

the nerds made it a benchmark to pass



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5911906&forum_id=2#50185241)