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When I fly Southwest I sit in the middle seat

THIS is the dominant strategy. People shuffle quietly past ...
Ruddy aromatic menage
  08/27/13
The dominant strategy is not to board Southwest.
Indigo Field
  08/28/13
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green up-to-no-good depressive whorehouse
  08/20/16
Why do people shit on Southwest? They have excellent serv...
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  08/20/16
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Judgmental pisswyrm crackhouse
  03/01/18
also free drinks
Jet-lagged electric furnace
  03/01/18
Also free to drop right before the flight. Essential for bus...
razzmatazz mental disorder
  03/01/18
Cr gorgeous airline
Vermilion fanboi national security agency
  08/13/22
lol baller but after the first few rows fill up peopel are ...
Emerald Property Doctorate
  08/27/13
uh then you just slide over to window did you never ride a ...
180 Federal Clown Legend
  08/27/13
so why not just take the window first off and then someone w...
Emerald Property Doctorate
  08/27/13
because your way best case scenario is you get one empty sea...
180 Federal Clown Legend
  08/27/13
yes but you're forgetting the tradeoff in that scenario #1 y...
Emerald Property Doctorate
  08/27/13
Then if that hot chick walks in, I'm like "Do you need ...
Ruddy aromatic menage
  08/27/13
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Ruddy aromatic menage
  08/27/13
DING DING DING. Worst case scenario is a window or aisle...
Ruddy aromatic menage
  08/27/13
or you could uh you know, take the window or aisle at the b...
Emerald Property Doctorate
  08/27/13
Was just on a flight that only went B deep and scored a row ...
Ruddy aromatic menage
  08/27/13
breh when you fly topeka to idaho the rules go out the windo...
Emerald Property Doctorate
  08/27/13
Price of being a litigator. Lot of time in Topeka.
Ruddy aromatic menage
  08/27/13
What if a couple comes and sees two contiguous seats and tak...
amber cruise ship windowlicker
  08/27/13
Then you have to bend to common courtesy, but only if they a...
Ruddy aromatic menage
  08/27/13
I think you're missing my point, you aspie. I'm saying tha...
amber cruise ship windowlicker
  08/27/13
Thought you were the other guy: Second sentence was an ed...
Ruddy aromatic menage
  08/27/13
well first off who cares if the seat TWO away from you is em...
180 Federal Clown Legend
  08/27/13
"Did You Never Ride a School Bus?: A Game Theoretic Cha...
Impertinent carmine volcanic crater old irish cottage
  08/27/13
thought this was real
Sinister Lascivious Mad Cow Disease
  08/27/13
180
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Pearl Unholy Organic Girlfriend
  08/28/13
FUCK my scholarship is outed!
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  09/15/17
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Ruddy aromatic menage
  08/13/22
Couldn't you just then move into the window?
Insane forum sweet tailpipe
  08/27/13
personally i consider aisle to be T6 and window T14
Emerald Property Doctorate
  08/27/13
T3.
Ruddy aromatic menage
  08/27/13
I hate stupid air waitresses bumping into me non stop, so I ...
Insane forum sweet tailpipe
  08/27/13
depends on flight time of course, if it's a short flight win...
Emerald Property Doctorate
  08/27/13
Also don't like getting up so some diabetic mouth breather c...
Tan Alcoholic Becky Dog Poop
  08/27/13
(short)
Startling sooty wrinkle
  06/02/14
I believe that was before I moved to the window.
Ruddy aromatic menage
  08/27/13
lol @ xo pumos letting strangers dictate where they will sit...
Emerald Property Doctorate
  08/27/13
Southwest has been cutting routes like whoa. they're almost...
zombie-like market faggotry
  08/27/13
nah, SW is generally full of proles who thus take forever to...
Sinister Lascivious Mad Cow Disease
  08/27/13
You in a rush lil breh?
Dull cerebral persian
  08/27/13
I get irrationally frustrated at the deplaning process when ...
Sinister Lascivious Mad Cow Disease
  08/27/13
It sucks but it's 5 minutes less you have to be in the offic...
Dull cerebral persian
  08/27/13
nah, I'd rather have dat leg room. you never can get the fi...
zombie-like market faggotry
  08/27/13
I always take the window seat and put my bag in the middle s...
Dull cerebral persian
  08/27/13
So youre the guy whos constantly taking his bag on and off t...
Arousing amethyst preventive strike shitlib
  08/28/13
Yep. It's a polite but obvious way to say don't fucking sit ...
Dull cerebral persian
  08/28/13
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Heady azure center striped hyena
  07/12/23
I like it because you can potentially talk to 2 people inste...
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  08/27/13
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Gay Garrison Sex Offender
  08/28/13
I thought I was the only millennial who did this
180 Federal Clown Legend
  08/28/13
Lol
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  09/01/13
lol
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  10/22/13
I've found that chowing down on fast food while people board...
glassy plaza
  06/02/14
The nigger strategy
Magenta Flirting Hell
  08/20/16
African-Americans, please
vibrant iridescent main people regret
  08/20/16
What about the white niggers? Won't you think of them?
Magenta Flirting Hell
  08/20/16
Bam! Success again! Row 3 all to myself! Church ladies givin...
Ruddy aromatic menage
  06/20/14
aisle seat in the back 4 lyfe
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  11/26/14
xo 2006: pay for domestic first or fly private gulfstream ti...
talented space double fault
  08/20/16
the autism ITT is off the charts
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i remember this 180 thread
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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:25 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage

THIS is the dominant strategy. People shuffle quietly past my 1st row.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942677)



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Date: August 28th, 2013 1:08 AM
Author: Indigo Field

The dominant strategy is not to board Southwest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23947791)



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Date: August 28th, 2013 1:23 AM
Author: splenetic pink half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23947846)



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Date: August 20th, 2016 10:13 AM
Author: green up-to-no-good depressive whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#31228303)



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Date: August 20th, 2016 10:22 AM
Author: vibrant iridescent main people regret

Why do people shit on Southwest?

They have excellent service, their on time rate is higher than most major airlines (party due to where they fly), they don't charge for bullshit like bags or change fees, flight attendants are cheerful as fuck, and companion pass is 180^180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#31228351)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: Judgmental pisswyrm crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#35516941)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: Jet-lagged electric furnace

also free drinks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#35517018)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 9:00 PM
Author: razzmatazz mental disorder

Also free to drop right before the flight. Essential for busy people. Incredible airline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#35517536)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 5:16 PM
Author: Vermilion fanboi national security agency

Cr gorgeous airline

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#45009839)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:26 PM
Author: Emerald Property Doctorate

lol baller

but after the first few rows fill up peopel are gonna plop down next to you on dat aisle, and youv'e just fucked yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942681)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:28 PM
Author: 180 Federal Clown Legend

uh then you just slide over to window

did you never ride a school bus, this is TCR, esp when you flop part of your body onto aisle seat and fake sleep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942685)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:28 PM
Author: Emerald Property Doctorate

so why not just take the window first off and then someone will grab the aisle, and you're exactly where you are going to be in 20 seconds anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942688)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:32 PM
Author: 180 Federal Clown Legend

because your way best case scenario is you get one empty seat next to you

if you sit in middle first, best case scenario is you get two empty seats next to you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942710)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:33 PM
Author: Emerald Property Doctorate

yes but you're forgetting the tradeoff in that scenario #1 you will never get the aisle seat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942718)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:34 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage

Then if that hot chick walks in, I'm like "Do you need a seat?"

There's a reason their logo is a HEART.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942723)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:29 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23943070)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:28 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage

DING DING DING.

Worst case scenario is a window or aisle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942690)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:29 PM
Author: Emerald Property Doctorate

or you could uh you know, take the window or aisle at the beginning and have your pick. wtf?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942694)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:30 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage

Was just on a flight that only went B deep and scored a row two aisle to myself, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942700)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:32 PM
Author: Emerald Property Doctorate

breh when you fly topeka to idaho the rules go out the window



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942715)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:34 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage

Price of being a litigator. Lot of time in Topeka.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942728)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:31 PM
Author: amber cruise ship windowlicker

What if a couple comes and sees two contiguous seats and takes them? Or a mom and a kid?

OP is right that center seat is the dominant strategy if you're a sociopathic aspie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942705)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:32 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage

Then you have to bend to common courtesy, but only if they ask me to move, but I still flexed that shit.

Just admit this is the dominant strategy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942714)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:35 PM
Author: amber cruise ship windowlicker

I think you're missing my point, you aspie. I'm saying that your strategy *is* the dominant strategy because it blocks couples from taking up the two seats, leaving you with dat GAP.

But I'm also pointing out that being "that guy" is generally sociopathic and aspie, since everyone on the plane will be giving you the stink eye even if they don't have the balls to ask you to move.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942731)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:36 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage

Thought you were the other guy:

Second sentence was an edit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942741)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:33 PM
Author: 180 Federal Clown Legend

well first off who cares if the seat TWO away from you is empty

second off then someone will see two empty seats next to you and SQUEEZE thay ASSHOLD in your face trying to get to the aisle

taking the window i addresed above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942719)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:58 PM
Author: Impertinent carmine volcanic crater old irish cottage

"Did You Never Ride a School Bus?: A Game Theoretic Challenge to Common Airline Seating Selection," International Journal of Game Theory 42.4, 1033-67 (2013).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942869)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:00 PM
Author: Sinister Lascivious Mad Cow Disease

thought this was real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942880)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:35 PM
Author: Dull cerebral persian

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23943094)



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Date: August 28th, 2013 1:12 AM
Author: Pearl Unholy Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23947803)



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Date: August 28th, 2013 1:19 AM
Author: 180 Federal Clown Legend

FUCK my scholarship is outed!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23947831)



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Date: June 2nd, 2014 1:07 AM
Author: Irradiated smoky black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#25671477)



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Date: November 26th, 2014 6:49 PM
Author: zippy toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#26806421)



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Date: August 20th, 2016 10:12 AM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#31228298)



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Date: August 20th, 2016 12:19 PM
Author: Lavender Antidepressant Drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#31228933)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 12:00 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#34217465)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 5:15 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#45009826)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:28 PM
Author: Insane forum sweet tailpipe

Couldn't you just then move into the window?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942687)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:29 PM
Author: Emerald Property Doctorate

personally i consider aisle to be T6 and window T14

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942692)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:29 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage

T3.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942695)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:34 PM
Author: Insane forum sweet tailpipe

I hate stupid air waitresses bumping into me non stop, so I prefer window.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942724)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:36 PM
Author: Emerald Property Doctorate

depends on flight time of course, if it's a short flight window is cool, otherwise aisle is much better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942736)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:36 PM
Author: Tan Alcoholic Becky Dog Poop

Also don't like getting up so some diabetic mouth breather can piss 4 times an hour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23943098)



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Date: June 2nd, 2014 12:52 AM
Author: Startling sooty wrinkle

(short)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#25671413)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:29 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage

I believe that was before I moved to the window.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942693)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 2:30 PM
Author: Emerald Property Doctorate

lol @ xo pumos letting strangers dictate where they will sit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23942697)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:30 PM
Author: zombie-like market faggotry

Southwest has been cutting routes like whoa. they're almost always full.

cr is to SPRINT to the exit row legroom seats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23943077)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:36 PM
Author: Sinister Lascivious Mad Cow Disease

nah, SW is generally full of proles who thus take forever to deplane. need to cop a first few rows seat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23943100)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:40 PM
Author: Dull cerebral persian

You in a rush lil breh?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23943116)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:40 PM
Author: Sinister Lascivious Mad Cow Disease

I get irrationally frustrated at the deplaning process when I'm in the back. I have no idea why it takes so long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23943120)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:42 PM
Author: Dull cerebral persian

It sucks but it's 5 minutes less you have to be in the office. Also gives you time to get dem digits from a girl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23943135)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:43 PM
Author: zombie-like market faggotry

nah, I'd rather have dat leg room. you never can get the first row because of the bitches with small children

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23943142)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:39 PM
Author: Dull cerebral persian

I always take the window seat and put my bag in the middle seat. Then when a hot girl or something is coming down the aisle I look around like I just realized my bag was in the middle seat and move it. If she chooses the seat you know whats up since she consciously chose to sit there knowing you moved the bag for her.

Aspies here use choose your own seating to get the most room instead of to ensure you end up next to a CGWBT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23943114)



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Date: August 28th, 2013 12:50 AM
Author: Arousing amethyst preventive strike shitlib

So youre the guy whos constantly taking his bag on and off the middle seat everytime a girl walks by. Never understood that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23947671)



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Date: August 28th, 2013 1:00 AM
Author: Dull cerebral persian

Yep. It's a polite but obvious way to say don't fucking sit next to be unless you are a CGWBT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23947743)



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Date: July 12th, 2023 5:47 AM
Author: Heady azure center striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#46538017)



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Date: August 27th, 2013 3:44 PM
Author: stubborn sienna selfie

I like it because you can potentially talk to 2 people instead of just one , makes the flight much more interesting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23943147)



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Date: August 28th, 2013 12:58 AM
Author: Gay Garrison Sex Offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23947730)



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Date: August 28th, 2013 1:21 AM
Author: 180 Federal Clown Legend

I thought I was the only millennial who did this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23947838)



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Date: September 1st, 2013 2:16 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#23975458)



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Date: October 22nd, 2013 3:37 PM
Author: Irradiated smoky black woman

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#24285355)



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Date: June 2nd, 2014 12:50 AM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#25671406)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 7:12 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#35516935)



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Date: October 22nd, 2013 3:36 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#24285350)



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Date: June 2nd, 2014 12:53 AM
Author: glassy plaza

I've found that chowing down on fast food while people board is a great way to get then to sit elsewhere...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#25671422)



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Date: August 20th, 2016 10:15 AM
Author: Magenta Flirting Hell

The nigger strategy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#31228309)



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Date: August 20th, 2016 10:23 AM
Author: vibrant iridescent main people regret

African-Americans, please

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#31228359)



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Date: August 20th, 2016 10:28 AM
Author: Magenta Flirting Hell

What about the white niggers? Won't you think of them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#31228392)



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Date: June 20th, 2014 8:45 PM
Author: Ruddy aromatic menage

Bam! Success again! Row 3 all to myself! Church ladies giving me dirty looks!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#25786607)



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Date: November 26th, 2014 6:53 PM
Author: Wonderful drab liquid oxygen

aisle seat in the back 4 lyfe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#26806436)



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Date: August 20th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: talented space double fault

xo 2006: pay for domestic first or fly private gulfstream timeshare?

xo 2016: Southwest middle seat strategies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#31228373)



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Date: August 20th, 2016 12:11 PM
Author: Disgusting Ladyboy Box Office

the autism ITT is off the charts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#31228884)



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Date: August 20th, 2016 12:18 PM
Author: Irradiated smoky black woman

i remember this 180 thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2347095&forum_id=2#31228928)