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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:44 AM Author: well-lubricated cerebral travel guidebook Half Life? Wolfenstein? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419169) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:04 PM Author: Onyx Lodge French Chef I think Half Life has to take the cake. It basically invented campaign mode as we know it today, with real voiceover acting and non-linear maps. It's hard to think of a game as revolutionary since HL came out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421510) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:51 PM Author: Spectacular Lay Hairy Legs Hexen went non-linear 3 years before Half Life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421801) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:55 PM Author: Onyx Lodge French Chef wtf is a hexen? I was a voracious gamer back in the 90s and have never heard of this franchise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421831) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:56 PM Author: Bateful chapel I played it. I don't recall it being obscure. It was on the shelves of regular retailers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421840) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:51 PM Author: Spectacular Lay Hairy Legs not obscure at all - it was the sequel to Heretic and there was also a Hexen II
Hexen was basically a fantasy version of the doom engine where you played either a fighter (melee tank), a mage (ranged low hp), or a cleric (balanced) |
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Date: June 16th, 2020 12:33 AM Author: well-lubricated cerebral travel guidebook It came free with my graphics card so I assumed it was shit and never played it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40426125) |
Date: June 15th, 2020 2:44 AM Author: Bateful chapel Doom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419171) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:38 AM Author: canary den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419492) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:47 AM Author: irate coral knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419522) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:55 AM Author: bonkers curious ceo whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419763) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: irradiated ratface stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421890) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:47 AM Author: galvanic shrine Wolfenstein 3D (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419174) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:53 AM Author: Gold tank address cr. nothing else comes close. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419190) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:51 PM Author: Bateful chapel It was important but too rudimentary. I stand by Doom as the answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421396) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:24 AM Author: doobsian kitty Going to listen to this all day while I work:
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:48 PM Author: Naked jew feces contra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEYxYcLi1lc |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:50 AM Author: Pink glittery electric furnace institution counter strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419184) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:43 AM Author: ruby racy pervert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419507) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:41 AM Author: Onyx Lodge French Chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419696) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:39 AM Author: irate coral knife DOOM, obviously. How is this a question? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419498) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:48 AM Author: Charismatic deer antler blood rage CR. Doom invented the fps genre. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419530) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:57 AM Author: Naked jew feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419547) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:19 AM Author: Iridescent excitant gay wizard property Such that for several years such games were called "doom clones." It took years for the term "fps" to overtake it. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Doom_clone_vs_first_person_shooter.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419621) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:40 AM Author: Dark menage It didn't though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419693) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:46 AM Author: Magenta Geriatric Rigpig Temple Doom definitely did not invent the genre but it was so much better than anything that came before it that it seems that way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419716) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:54 AM Author: pearly gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419753) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:50 PM Author: Thirsty foreskin philosopher-king Most FPS games don't play at all like Doom, though. I think you could defensibly argue that Halo, or COD4, or even Battlefield are more influential over what the norms are today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421390) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:51 PM Author: Bateful chapel What do you mean by "play like"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421406) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:02 PM Author: Thirsty foreskin philosopher-king -Doom's multiplayer is 4-player deathmatch; the trend in modern shooters is towards very large games with lots of players.
-Doom has non-linear levels with secret doors and stuff; modern single-player FPS tends to be very linear.
-In Doom your enemies are demons from Hell, instead of the military or sci-fi themes that dominate most FPS games (yeah, Doom is "sci-fi," but not in the way something like Halo is).
-Doom has depleting health that recovers with med-kits, instead of automatically restoring health which has been super-common ever since Halo.
Basically, Doom was the first popular FPS, but beyond "being a first person shooter" most of its specific traits aren't prominent in modern shooter games. And since it didn't create the genre either (Wolfenstein did), I feel you could easily make the case that later games are more influential. |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:16 PM Author: fragrant vengeful rehab stain stfu millennial (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421609) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:38 PM Author: Chocolate Kitty Cat Lol dork (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40425031) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:59 PM Author: Pink glittery electric furnace institution CS came out in 1999. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421474) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:00 PM Author: Onyx Lodge French Chef There's a strong argument to be made for Halo, with the recovering health mechanic being in basically every game now. Before it was always a fixed pool with some medkits or recovery mechanics in various parts of the level.
I think the "sit in cover and autoheal" mechanic is seriously shit, but it is now everywhere because of Halo. |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: irradiated ratface stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421892) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:16 AM Author: Aquamarine vivacious main people COD or Halo, easily. The sheer scale has to dwarf other considerations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419612) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:26 AM Author: navy range macaca DOOM
lol at the n00bs itt |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:39 AM Author: orange slimy boistinker garrison WOLF3d did that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419690) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:54 AM Author: galvanic shrine doom came out a year after w3d (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420143) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:42 AM Author: Electric Chartreuse Field Mad-dog Skullcap COD 4 for better or worse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419698) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:43 AM Author: beady-eyed pontificating wrinkle Wolfenstein was definitely game changing, but I think Goldeneye brought the FPS genre to the masses in a way that opened the door to Counterstrike and the next gen. Halo was too late to get credit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419703) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:46 AM Author: vigorous boiling water cs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419717) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:54 AM Author: pearly gunner Fortnite (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419754) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:56 AM Author: Exciting useless brakes crackhouse goldeneye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420155) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:13 PM Author: spruce big nowag senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421584) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:57 PM Author: Black hospital gaping Expected that to be everyone's post itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421845) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:00 PM Author: Pink glittery electric furnace institution N64 controller design did not stand the test of time and it wasn't online. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421874) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:58 AM Author: aphrodisiac police squad Grand Theft Auto 5 and it’s not close. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420171) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:58 AM Author: Gold tank address duck hunt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420178) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 11:10 AM Author: Insane Station Elastic Band Wolfenstein 3d.
But doom took the formula and ran with it. |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 11:10 AM Author: pearly gunner A Link to the Past (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420507) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 11:11 AM Author: Gold tank address fps, not technical rpg. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420579) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 11:35 AM Author: aphrodisiac police squad Link is the first person you play as and you need to shoot arrows to beat it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420771) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:50 PM Author: Indigo point Chex Quest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421383) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:54 PM Author: Cobalt out-of-control love of her life hall considering consoles >>>>> PC in terms of popularity I would say goldeneye (first console multiplayer FPS) and COD 4. Also Halo 1/2. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421431) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:01 PM Author: Onyx Lodge French Chef What are you talking about? Look up/down is bound to the C buttons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421492) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:03 PM Author: Pink glittery electric furnace institution Does the gun not autoaim upwards to the 2nd floor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421505) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:01 PM Author: ruby racy pervert yeah it does, it's just a bitch to use on the standard controller set up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421496) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:02 PM Author: Pink glittery electric furnace institution oh ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421501) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:09 PM Author: Spectacular Lay Hairy Legs I don't think the Wolfenstein v. Doom argument is really productive since they are basically the same game engine
honestly, I would bundle the entire line of id software titles for this purpose to say the id software line (Wolfenstein-Doom-Quake) was the most influential for FPS |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:13 PM Author: ruby racy pervert yeah, Quake was huge. for me it goes ID > Half-Life and its derivatives (CS, TFC) > Halo > COD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421587) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:17 PM Author: fragrant vengeful rehab stain daikatna (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421614) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:58 PM Author: Grizzly toilet seat Top 3 most influential, in order: Wolfenstein Goldeneye COD4 |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:59 PM Author: Pink glittery electric furnace institution lol no a game from 2007 was not the most influential gtfo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421863) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:01 PM Author: Grizzly toilet seat Wolfenstien for essentially creating the FPS genre Goldeneye for creating FPS multiplayer COD4 for bringing FPS online multiplayer mainstream |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: Pink glittery electric furnace institution Counter Strike was released in 1999. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421891) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:06 PM Author: Sinister Violent Set PC gamers are a troglodytic subrace compared to console gamers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421909) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:07 PM Author: Pink glittery electric furnace institution How can you play an FPS without a mouse GTFO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421916) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:08 PM Author: Grizzly toilet seat It didn't really hit the mainstream until console players got involved. Since COD4, we've had 4-5 online FPS games released every year. COD4 started this trend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421925) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:03 PM Author: Diverse Wagecucks Plaza just to be contrarian you could also conceivably argue Unreal, given it spawned the Unreal game engine which went on to power the vast majority of fps games in the late 90s through to today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421894) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:06 PM Author: pearl hyperactive puppy How is the answer not Zelda? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421913) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:08 PM Author: ruby racy pervert cr what about Pilotwings as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421926) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 4:27 PM Author: bonkers curious ceo whorehouse How is the answer a thing that is not a FPS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40423022) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 4:37 PM Author: Insane Station Elastic Band zelda literally had FPS https://youtu.be/yzbJssK12l4?t=195 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40423117) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 4:41 PM Author: Diverse Wagecucks Plaza are u saying zelda is an rpg? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40423144) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:49 PM Author: bonkers curious ceo whorehouse FPS = first person shooter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40425547) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 5:14 PM Author: Mauve floppy school cafeteria Wolf 3D and Doom for basically inventing the genre.
Half-Life for transforming the single player side of the genre from basic, level-based killboxes into narrative adventures. And on the multiplayer side, for spawning CS, among the most successful and influential mods of all time.
Half-Life 2 for introducing physics.
PUBG for inventing and popularizing the Battle Royale genre. Love it or hate it, Battle Royale defines the modern FPS (PUBG, Fortnite, Apex, Warzone) and has made the genre more popular and culturally relevant than ever. |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:44 PM Author: Dark menage I know everyone says Doom, but I never got into Doom even though I was the perfect demographic for it. It always felt too 2 dimensional and repetitive/predictable. Wolfenstein felt more innovative to me, and I think a lot of people who got into Doom had just never played Wolfenstein.
Half Life was the first FPS that actually got me hooked. It had a really cool look and feel with the jumping and shit. HL2 was maybe the apex. Spawned TF2 and CS, which still has an active community today. Pretty sure all potus multiplayer FPS were Valve products. |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:56 PM Author: Red passionate shitlib becky Perfect Dark (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40425576) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:57 PM Author: Emerald Home International Law Enforcement Agency I think Charles has it right that Doom/Wolfenstein set the standard for the genre the way Mario 64 did for adventure games, but similarly aren't relevant to modern games.
The two most popular types of FPS, deathmatch and battle royale, can respectively trace their modern origins to Halo and DayZ. |
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Date: June 16th, 2020 12:24 AM Author: Mauve floppy school cafeteria Halo is absolutely not the root of "deathmatch."
That path runs from Doom to Quake (including the original Team Fortress and Q3 Rocket Arena) to Unreal Tournament.
Hell even games like Rainbow Six were doing competitive ladder deathmatch before Halo existed. |
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Date: June 21st, 2020 8:05 AM Author: Lake native fanboi stfu zoomer quake deathmatch was a big thing, fuck nigga basically every FPS MP before halo featured DM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40465228) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 11:10 PM Author: dull arousing patrolman corner Quake, it gave birth to online multiplayer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40425667) |
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Date: June 16th, 2020 12:57 AM Author: Magical metal filthpig Doom/Wolf and it's not even close.
Half-Life was not even the progenator of "narrative campaigns," the main reason cited in its favor. Many games before had them. Half-Life just happened to set a new high water mark. |
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FPS is all about multiplayer over the internet since that's how you get thousands of hours of replay-ability. |
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