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Reminder: the alternative to leftism is rightism, which is far far worse
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:37 AM Author: .;.;..;;..;;..,.................,;.,.,.,.,.,;. all of you who are complaining about the stifling idiocy of leftist positions on race, gender, sexuality, etc. -- and wishing to voice your "true, nuanced, intelligent beliefs" on topics such as racial differences, sexual differences, and gay differences -- are missing one crucial fact: there has never been a society where the mainstream masses hold onto (or are even capable of comprehending) true, nuanced, and intelligent beliefs.
if you remove leftists' irrational beliefs about the equality of all races, genders, and sexual orientations (and policing those beliefs using tactics of social shaming and ostracism), then you will inevitably end up with a society governed by rightists' irrational beliefs about inferiority of races, genders, and sexual orientations (and enforcing these views using violence, bigotry, and subjugation).
there is no in between here. the average individual is a rabid bootlicking imbecile and he or she will always be ruled by a set of simplistic, totalizing beliefs whether it comes from right or left. history is clear on this. i would rather live in a lunatic leftist society than a lunatic rightist one. |
Date: July 8th, 2020 11:37 AM Author: north atlantid (luis) im white so i prefer the rightist one sorry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567423) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:39 AM Author: .,,.,,.,.,,,.....,,,.,.,.,...,.,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567433) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 12:25 PM Author: spritezero (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567767) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 5:37 PM Author: '"''"''"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40569725) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 5:50 PM Author: '"""""" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40569802) |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:07 AM Author: .,,,.,.,..,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,. go blow up a bus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40573354) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:38 AM Author: Dr Sbaitso lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567426) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:38 AM Author: ......,,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,. And that's why you will likely be executed by one sect or the other in the next 10 years. Enjoy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567427) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:39 AM Author: ...:........;;.........,;:..........:.;....:::.... yes I believe this is how Israel is so successful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567432) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:40 AM Author: north atlantid (luis) 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567438) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:40 AM Author: .,.,,..,..,.,.,:,,:,....,::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.:,,. (kilroy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567437) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:45 AM Author: How to derive aut from ism Most of us now would be more than content to live under the Left (of center) of 30 years ago.
Of course, the left considers that (and everything to the right of their cutting edge, for that matter) to be rightism.
Moreover, it's the left that's getting mired in nuance, albeit idiotic nuance. If you're constantly redefining racism so that none of your tribalistic bigotry is ever racist, then you're the one with the problem.
The right isn't the side that's constantly theorizing and retheorizing everything. The (American mainstream) Right affirms liberty and property -- basic, seemingly nonnegotiable ideals, and the Left is always carving out exceptions, loopholes, and pseudointellectual rebuttals. This works both ways, brother. |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:49 AM Author: aurelien The op's point isn't about the current right. He's speaking of society as a whole now and in the future. When the current leftish overreach is rejected by society, we're going to revert to traditional forms of marginalization and subjugation backed by violence rather than by social shaming favored by the left. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567502) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:58 AM Author: How to derive aut from ism lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567570) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 12:09 PM Author: .;.;..;;..;;..,.................,;.,.,.,.,.,;. exactly
the alt-right and its ilk seem appealing today, but that's only because they've been beaten back and cowering in a corner. we are only a few generations removed from jim crow laws, a full-blown KKK, and lynchings - in either direction in time. the left has a certain rational basis for seeing in someone as innocuous as that bumbling idiot Trump, the spectre of Hitler. |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 12:11 PM Author: north atlantid (luis) the alt-right seems appealing because nobody else tries to appeal to white people
the basis for thinking of Trump as the next Hitler is because he appealed to white people (without ever saying "white people" of course) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 12:14 PM Author: .;.;..;;..;;..,.................,;.,.,.,.,.,;. my point is that appealing to white people (or any majority group that has historically held overwhelming power) *should be terrifying* to a disparate minority coalition trying to cohere a movement centered around the irrational belief of equality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567684) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 12:16 PM Author: north atlantid (luis) then why didnt you just make that point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567694) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 5:48 PM Author: ;;;.;..;;;.. (luis) why do you assume that leftists won't eventually use violence to enforce their beliefs about race/class/etc? it's not like there haven't been violent leftist movements before (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40569793) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 5:59 PM Author: aurelien Because they would lose that fight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40569868) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 6:02 PM Author: .;.;..;;..;;..,.................,;.,.,.,.,.,;. because blacks are 13% of the population. gays and trannies are irrelevant. and women are... women.
until leftists begin raising hispanics to the elevated status of BLM, while also consolidating all their other groups under the same tent, they pose little physical threat.
that's also why reverting to a white-dominated racist society is so dangerous, even though we are currently far away from it. |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:59 AM Author: .;.;..;;..;;..,.................,;.,.,.,.,.,;. this is what most people don't understand: the Left of 30 years ago was only possible as a temporary phase in the transition from the Right of 30 years ago, and today. it was still in a vulnerable, nascent stage, and the battles were primarily fought in the more intellectual and sophisticated vanguard of that earlier society. as more and more people were assimilated into leftism, the battlegrounds shifted to the average mainstream cattle, and accordingly the tactics and messages became more extreme, dogmatic, and blunt. and that's where we are today.
as for the left having an inherent disposition towards nuance: not true. when the right was ascendant, there were entire intellectual fields devoted to explaining the inferiority of the Negro (phrenology) or Jews (Nazi science) or women (theology). but what the average person in those days perceived was simple and uniform: "Negro subhuman, Jew subhuman, women sub-male". likewise today, you have academics debating the nuances of racism, but it all boils down to a simple message in the minds of the average person: blacks (and whatever other minorities) are sacrosanct and beyond reproach. |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 12:08 PM Author: How to derive aut from ism Who cares whether the disposition is inherent, and who cares about those examples? You're not really describing nuance. Yeah, evil people draw on pseudoscience to rationalize unjust (but not nuanced) rules.
Just scroll twitter to see the mental gymnastics the left needs to play just to decide what's "problematic" and what isn't.
The mere facts that the left is constantly eating its own, new coalitions form as quickly as others crumble, and no one on either side knows how they're supposed to comport themselves from one week to the next suggest that the left is NOT offering some idiot-proof set of principles for the masses to live by for the sake of peace and equanimity |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 12:12 PM Author: .;.;..;;..;;..,.................,;.,.,.,.,.,;. this is certainly true- it is much harder to hold a society at equilibrium upon the basis of a supposed "equality" of disparate minority groups, than it is to hold a society at equilibrium upon the inferiority and violent subjugation of all minorities.
so what do you propose then, supposing the "Left of 30 years ago" is not a viable long-term plan. |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 12:21 PM Author: How to derive aut from ism Uphold reasonable rules and the rule of law. Stop race-baiting. Stop infantilizing minorities. Don't tolerate race card-playing as cover for corruption and incompetence in local government. The rest will sort itself out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567728) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:46 AM Author: Mr. Eeyore, Esq. (blackbeltinboredom@gmail.com) both ideological extremes suck and result in people being massacred
most xo poasters are part of the intelligentsia and would have been murdered on multiple grounds under a leftist pol pot regime
a lot of xo poasters would also be murdered in a right wing regime but a few would probably be saved by their n-threading |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 12:16 PM Author: Internet Thought Criminal #6,000,001 incredibly bad thread, worst one i've read today so far. congrats (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567695) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 5:36 PM Author: Guy Debord Smart poasters are engaging op like he is making reasonable points. WTF? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40569715) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 5:50 PM Author: tedbeckersted titcsubthread. wtf is going on here? lmao. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40569803) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 12:23 PM Author: Poaster Strudel the current right is harmless and actually pleasant. the current left is not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567745) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 5:31 PM Author: .;.;..;;..;;..,.................,;.,.,.,.,.,;. see above, the current right is only harmless because it's been beaten down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40569694) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 12:26 PM Author: spritezero maybe for smelly browns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40567771) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 5:49 PM Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,. this is real retarded and ahistorical. american conservatism prior to modern liberalism was basically william howard taft. kind of corporatist, low-key racialist, but generally rather anodyne. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40569794) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 5:49 PM Author: ;.,.,.;;;::.,.;.,;.;.;.;.;;::..;.;.,,, (Beer Like Water. Drugs Like Candy. Women Like Tissue.) With race and sexual orientation maybe I agree, but there's a lot of evidence that feminism has been TTT for society as a whole and women specifically as well, and that everyone would be better off with more traditional roles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40569795) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 5:52 PM Author: '"""""" Idiotic and naive to believe that leftists don’t believe in stratification “all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others”. The difference is the left wants to pick winners and losers and the right wants to let the cards fall where they may (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4579190&forum_id=2#40569812) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 6:05 PM Author: .;.;..;;..;;..,.................,;.,.,.,.,.,;. nah
leftists want to pick winners, but the winners they have chosen so far have been 1) blacks, 2) trannies and gays, and 3) women, all of whom are naturally weak or low in numbers, so giving them special status in society doesn't have much effect.
on the other hand, the alternative rightist society would pick winners by majority rule, which would have enormous consequences obviously. |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 6:12 PM Author: ...,,....,,.,,,..,,,,... "low in numbers"
women plus blacks alone will constitute a huge majority of the population dumbass. almost 63%. then throw in gays, muslims etc and we are hitting close to 70%. are u fucking dumb or did u fail middle school math?
its still oppression by a majority. just that its a blatant power grab by ppl who can't achieve or build things on their own. i mean blacks had the whole of extremely resource rich africa to themselves until 300 years ago. why didnt they build up their society?
america has always evolved towards equality. going for the far left SJW racially divisive blatant anti-white nonsense is going back to the dark ages of jim crow |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 6:16 PM Author: .;.;..;;..;;..,.................,;.,.,.,.,.,;. i said low in numbers OR naturally weak. women are no serious threat.
blacks are useless, but would rather have them as deadweight diversity hires than have them getting lynched by the KKK |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 6:05 PM Author: ...,,....,,.,,,..,,,,... franco >>>> pol pot any fucking day
and hitler was a freak and an outlier. most far right states dont end up as nazi states
and finally far left will also heavily oppress people based on religion, race etc. just look at poland, soviets (ukraine), present day china (uighurs) etc |
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:08 AM Author: Live Free or Die. "then you will inevitably end up with a society governed by rightists' irrational beliefs about inferiority of races, genders, and sexual orientations (and enforcing these views using violence, bigotry, and subjugation)."
I understand and wish to continue. |