TAMMY DUCKWORTH FIRES BACK
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Date: July 9th, 2020 8:43 PM Author: Sniggle
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/opinion/tammy-duckworth-tucker-carlson.html
A little over 240 years ago, two of my ancestors put on the uniform of George Washington’s Continental Army and marched into battle, willing to die if it meant bringing their fledgling nation inches closer to independence. Centuries later, in 1992, I followed in their footsteps and joined the Army.
Even knowing how my tour in Iraq would turn out, even knowing that I’d lose both my legs in a battlefield just north of Baghdad in late 2004, I would do it all over again. Because if there’s anything that my ancestors’ service taught me, it’s the importance of protecting our founding values, including every American’s right to speak out. In a nation born out of an act of protest, there is nothing more patriotic than standing up for what you believe in, even if it goes against those in power.
Our founders’ refusal to blindly follow their leader was what I was reflecting on this Fourth of July weekend, when some on the far right started attacking me for suggesting that all Americans should be heard, even those whose opinions differ from our own. Led by the Fox News host Tucker Carlson and egged on by President Trump, they began questioning my love for the country I went to war to protect, using words I never actually said and ascribing a position to me that I do not actually hold.
Mr. Carlson disingenuously claimed that because I expressed an openness to “a national dialogue” about our founders’ complex legacies, people like me “actually hate America.” One night later, he claimed that I called George Washington a traitor even though I had unambiguously answered no when asked whether anyone could justify saying that he was. Then he argued that changes to monuments of our founders “deserve a debate,” which, somehow, was different and more acceptable to him than the “national dialogue” that led him to question my patriotism just 24 hours earlier.
ImageSenator Tammy Duckworth of Illinois, in 2018.
Senator Tammy Duckworth of Illinois, in 2018.Credit...Celeste Sloman for The New York Times
Setting aside the fact that the right wing’s right to lie about me is one of the rights I fought to defend, let me be clear: I don’t want George Washington’s statue to be pulled down any more than I want the Purple Heart that he established to be ripped off my chest. I never said that I did.
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But while I would risk my own safety to protect a statue of his from harm, I’ll fight to my last breath to defend every American’s freedom to have his or her own opinion about Washington’s flawed history. What some on the other side don’t seem to understand is that we can honor our founders while acknowledging their serious faults, including the undeniable fact that many of them enslaved Black Americans.
Because while we have never been a perfect union, we have always sought to be a more perfect union — and in order to do so, we cannot whitewash our missteps and mistakes. We must learn from them instead.
But what I actually said isn’t the reason Mr. Carlson and Mr. Trump are questioning my patriotism, nor is it why they’re using the same racist insults against me that have been slung my way time and again in years past, though they have never worked on me.
They’re doing it because they’re desperate for America’s attention to be on anything other than Donald Trump’s failure to lead our nation, and because they think that Mr. Trump’s electoral prospects will be better if they can turn us against one another. Their goal isn’t to make — or keep — America great. It’s to keep Mr. Trump in power, whatever the cost.
It’s better for Mr. Trump to have you focused on whether an Asian-American woman is sufficiently American than to have you mourning the 130,000 Americans killed by a virus he claimed would disappear in February. It’s better for his campaign to distract Americans with whether a combat veteran is sufficiently patriotic than for people to recall that this failed commander in chief has still apparently done nothing about reports of Russia putting bounties on the heads of American troops in Afghanistan.
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At Mount Rushmore on July 3, President Trump shared a Fox News clip attacking Senator Tammy Duckworth.
At Mount Rushmore on July 3, President Trump shared a Fox News clip attacking Senator Tammy Duckworth. Credit...Anna Moneymaker for The New York Times
Mr. Trump and his team have made the political calculation that, no matter what, they can’t let Americans remember that so many of his decisions suggest that he cares more about lining his pockets and bolstering his political prospects than he does about protecting our troops or our nation.
They should know, though, that attacks from self-serving, insecure men who can’t tell the difference between true patriotism and hateful nationalism will never diminish my love for this country — or my willingness to sacrifice for it so they don’t have to. These titanium legs don’t buckle.
The hateful vision for America parroted by Mr. Trump and Mr. Carlson will not win. Their relentless efforts to drive wedges between us will not work forever. We are too resilient a nation, too diverse a people, to let them.
In his farewell address, George Washington not only recognized his own imperfections, he also urged Americans to “guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism” and be wary of excessive partisanship. In the generations since, too many patriots, including many in my own family, have sacrificed too much to let our guard down now.
So when Tucker Carlson questions the patriotism of those willing to sacrifice for his freedom, or when Donald Trump promotes those smears — after having threatened to veto a pay raise for our troops to try to ensure the military continues honoring Confederate traitors who took up arms against our Union — remember Washington’s words.
Remember that part of what has always made America not just great but good is that every American has the right to question those in charge. Anyone claiming to stand up for “patriotic” values should recognize that, because, without it, the country these impostor patriots claim to love so much would not exist.
Our nation deserves leaders mature and secure enough not to race-bait or swift-boat anyone who dares disagree with them. After these past four years, and especially after these past four months, it’s clearer than ever that we must choose public servants who will focus on the serious issues facing our country — from the spread of the coronavirus to systemic racism to foreign adversaries threatening our troops’ lives — rather than cynical bullies who use schoolyard tactics to distract from their own shortcomings.
So while I would put on my old uniform and go to war all over again to protect the right of Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump to say offensive things on TV and Twitter, I will also spend every moment I can from now until November fighting to elect leaders who would rather do good for their country than do well for themselves.
Tammy Duckworth (@SenDuckworth) is a Democratic senator from Illinois.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 8:45 PM
Author: .;.;..;;..;;..,.................,;.,.,.,.,.,;.
wow
she devastated him
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Date: July 9th, 2020 8:47 PM
Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
By walking back virtually every quote he attributed to her?
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Date: July 9th, 2020 8:45 PM
Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.
180. Tucker got her to deny that Washington was a traitor or that Mt. Rushmore should be demolished.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:17 PM
Author: ..,.,..,...,:,,:,..;:,:,...,:,.,.:.,:.,;;.,.:;.,,
Agreed. Bernie is at least a self formed ideologue from a remote part of the country that resembles Scandinavia and his policies might work in a microcosm. But Tammy is literally woke identity politics personified. She checks all the boxes and yet has nothing to contribute.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:45 PM
Author: ..,.,..,...,:,,:,..;:,:,...,:,.,.:.,:.,;;.,.:;.,,
It's a race to the bottom because the Democrats can't even find a mildly competent presidential candidate anywhere. In a country where culturally about 60% of the country is sympathetic to the moderate left in one way or another they're going to lose yet another presidential election while winning the popular vote. Duckworth has nothing interesting or important to say. Yes we all are thankful for her service but do you know what? Pound for pound Americans don't have respect for the military as they once did. Notice how no one who served in Vietnam ever became president. And especially the Iraq War pt I and II these were pointless wars and sad as it is, important people avoided them. Trump is a businessman who built something you can attack his record it doesn't matter. If Duckworth had started a goddamn Subway franchise it would be more relevant. I doubt any of these clowns could function in the business sector. And almost no one from the business sector has any interest in cleaning up the mess of low IQ politicians in Washington. Well, except one.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:10 PM
Author: .,..,....,.,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...,:.::,
It's not like she signed up thinking she'd wind up a paraplegic. She was probably trying to cop dat GI Bill and just assumed certain risks
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:12 PM
Author: ..,.,..,...,:,,:,..;:,:,...,:,.,.:.,:.,;;.,.:;.,,
Nobody cares about what you did 30 years ago they care about what they can do for you now. Nowww. To help people today and tomorrow. This is exactly indicative of how liberals have created a brain drain in Washington, by electing people based on identity politics and not on raw ability and intelligence. We need to get rid of all these people from Congress and restore the meritocracy. They should only have the absolute best and brightest in these positions and they should be wielding America's economic power like a sword to bend the planet to our will. Instead we're debating if the father of our nation is in tune with postmodernism. It's a complete joke. Our country is a joke it's becoming South Africa before our eyes and true patriots are being skewered in communal ritualistic group murders. But at least she served!!! At least she served unlike those cryptocommunists who never had a real job!!!
Have you checked your T levels?
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:17 PM
Author: ..,.,..,...,:,,:,..;:,:,...,:,.,.:.,:.,;;.,.:;.,, ( Fraudrecession)
He didn't just serve he commanded an army he was the highest ranking officer and war commander based solely on skill, will, and ability. He went on to be the first elected civic leader of the greatest nation that ever existed in the history of the cosmos. Ljl at comparing that to her 'service'
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:16 PM
Author: ......;,;.,;,,.,;,.,;,.;;,.,;,..,.,;,.,.;,
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>> There’s a reason why there’s so many evil fat women in government. Where else would they be if government didn’t want them? They have nothing going on for them, except their membership in the Democratic party machine. The party gives them all they have, the same way the Communist party had given everything to that average peasant kid who became a middling bureaucrat in Moscow. And don’t even get me started with hostile Muslims or Transexuals. Those people used to be expelled or taken into asylums, pre-1960. Which is why American Progressivism likes them so much. The little these people have depends completely on the Left’s patronage. There’s a devil’s bargain there: the more naturally repulsive someone else, the more valuable it is as a party member, as its loyalty will be all the stronger. This is of course what’s behind Larry Auster’s First Law of minority relations: the worse a group behaves, the more the Left likes it.
This is also why the Left today is the same Left that was into Soviet Communism back in the day. What they approve of today would scandalize any 1920s Leftist. Even 1950s Leftist. But it’s all the same thing, following the same incentives: how to build a cohesive ruling class to monopolize state power. It used to be class struggle. Now it’s gender-struggle and ethnic struggle. Ethnic struggle works in America because immigrants have no territorial power base, unlike in Russia or China. So the old game of giving status to low-status minorities works better than ever. It works even better, unlike Lenin’s Russia, America has now access to every single minority on earth. Which is why the American left is busy importing as many Somalis as they can. The lowest performing minority on earth. Just perfect. <<
https://spandrell.com/2017/11/14/biological-leninism/
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:20 PM
Author: ..,.,..,...,:,,:,..;:,:,...,:,.,.:.,:.,;;.,.:;.,, ( Fraudrecession)
It starts with you getting T shots. Then you can stand up to your mom,finally make it out of her basement. Get a job for the first time and pay the rent. Stop giving money to those girls on OnlyFans. And then, only then, you might consider that the people of this country have a moral duty to stand for what's right in the face of this farce, this liberal injustice imposed on us, and help the President by actually making a difference. Stand up publicly for what's right even though it's hard and start fighting back and try and win hearts and minds.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:12 PM Author: Sniggle
No, dude. You’re falling for exactly the misdirection she has been leaning on since 2004. Her time in service, and being willing to make the sacrifice, doesn’t automatically make her a competent leader, an innovative thinker, or an exceptional Soldier. If she were judged on merit, her career would be over, so she waves her Purple Heart and titanium legs in front of any criticism to prevent that from happening. She has a Ph.D. in Human Services from a for-profit diploma mill; does that make her a respectable scholar? Her post-injury job in the National Guard was just a sinecure with no management or leadership requirements, so no veteran is going to think she has real leadership skills. Her only actual leadership-requiring job was running the Illinois VA, which she completely botched.
Remove her injury from her life and you’ll realize she is mediocre, at best, at anything she tries. Then apply that line of reasoning to her flying skills and her injury might make a little more sense.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:15 PM
Author: ..,.,..,...,:,,:,..;:,:,...,:,.,.:.,:.,;;.,.:;.,, ( Fraudrecession)
180 post synergy with mine
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:25 PM
Author: ..,.,..,...,:,,:,..;:,:,...,:,.,.:.,:.,;;.,.:;.,, ( Fraudrecession)
He's a good dude but if he wants to becum more badass. He's on the right side but we need more out of him. Not everyone can be the Donald J Trump juggernaut in the Great Fight but maybe he can be one of the guys who runs into canon fire in the beginning of the battle scene.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:24 PM Author: jhalp
I agree she's mediocre besides her sacrifice. I'm not surprised she botched the VA job (and lol at her for-profit PhD).
My point is that the politician class in this country is really nothing more than a bunch of totems/symbols for their respective interests.
I don't respect much in her EXCEPT her losing her legs in Iraq and at least having some sense of tradition/civic-mindness to at least serve in the NG. A lot of "red-blooded" American men don't lift a fucking finger in service to our country and that bothers me.
I care because these symbols do guide people. Just as how every do-nothing bartender with a shrill voice now probably thinks they can be an AOC the elevator pitch aspect of the person matters for the masses.
If you think that all Dems are equally shit regardless of the "skin" they put on then I would hazard to say you've reached a level of cynicism where you think this game is so corrupt, its not even worth playing.
If that's the case then really this is a moot conversation and its just waiting until the system collapses onto itself or getting the fuck out of here.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 11:14 PM Author: jhalp
Fair enough, besides her service and being wounded there really isn't anything to admire in Duckworth.
My criticism of the anti-Duckworth talk here came from the XO crowd rushing to discredit the sacrifice of being a wounded vet because they were just in a rush to pile any and all criticism onto anyone they disagreed with. The problem is the loss of nuance in argument here rather than any kind of real admiration for Duckworth as a leader and individual.
Glad you got back man. Despite being a pog, my brother was wounded in OEF.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:37 PM Author: Idris Elba's Life Matters
Tammy Duckworth:
- Combat Pilot
- 5th generation military
- Congresswoman
- U.S. Senator
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A faggot named "Sniggle"
OH HOW UNIMPRESSIVE SHE IS! IF ONLY SHE COULD'VE FOUND SOME WAY TO IMPRESS SOME FAGGOT ON THE INTERNET NAMED SNIGGLE!
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:49 PM
Author: ..,.,..,...,:,,:,..;:,:,...,:,.,.:.,:.,;;.,.:;.,, ( Fraudrecession)
1800000000000
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Date: July 9th, 2020 8:53 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,,.,,.,,.,.,,,
Lol is this flame?
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:04 PM
Author: .,,,.,.,..,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,.
Get a fucking job
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:06 PM
Author: ,..,..,.,,.,....,....,,,.....,....
This is a completely insane thing to say
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:02 PM
Author: ,..,..,.,,.,....,....,,,.....,....
her not you
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Date: July 9th, 2020 8:54 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,,.,,.,,.,.,,,
She’s part white
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:03 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,,.,,.,,.,.,,,
It’s complicated
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:03 PM
Author: .,,,.,.,..,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,.
Tldr
Yep you hate America bitch. Sorry not sorry. Do better.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:03 PM Author: """"""""
Max IQ to believe she wrote a word of this, as opposed to staffers or advisors?
Also, it lies (she wanted a “conversation” about tearing down Washington which we all know means she’s comfortable with it coming down) and omits Tucker’s #1 reason why she’s a total fraud with ZERO moral authority to speak for veterans or patriotism: when abused VA patients went to her for help, she shrugged and stated, “that’s just how it is.” This forced the veterans to go to the media, leading to a major scandal and reform at the VA
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Date: July 9th, 2020 9:06 PM
Author: ,...,.,,,,..,.,.,,,..,,,,,,....,.,.,.
These titanium legs don't buckle.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:11 PM
Author: .,..,....,.,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...,:.::,
She's done here. No amount of op-eds will change that.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:12 PM
Author: .,..,....,.,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...,:.::,
That's not the rule she seems to be promoting.
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Date: July 9th, 2020 10:38 PM Author: Idris Elba's Life Matters
You're kidding right?
Has ANYBODY mentioned Warren since this story developed?
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Date: July 10th, 2020 10:23 AM
Author: ,,..,,,.,:;,..::,,....,:,..,:,,..:.,:.:,.
Why would she be scared? Everyone in America with an opinion worth hearing is siding with her. Who is supporting Tucker? Judging by Tucker's silence he realized he is in over his head.
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Date: July 10th, 2020 1:50 AM Author: Metal Up Your Ass
*CRASHES TAIL ROTOR THROUGH THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE*
"HEY! DID YOU KNOW I LOST MY LEGS IN IRAQ???"
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Date: July 10th, 2020 8:23 AM Author: Hombre 3000 (❄️CocaineMitch@senate.gov❄️)
Lol at this mediocre politician cravenly walking back her anti-American statements. I hope XO Tucker lights her the fuck up again tonight. He’s gotten under her skin and it’s hilarious.
Also it’s interesting that she never explains who she meant when she said trump’s rushmore speech “praised dead traitors.” Did she mean Abe Lincoln? Maybe Jackie Robinson? Who knows?
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Date: July 10th, 2020 9:38 AM
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typical gook striver brain trying hop onto whatever she thinks is the "popular" thing to do without even knowing what she's saying. Basically the "adult" version of that psychotic Harvard tiktok hapa
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580415&forum_id=2#40578994) |
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