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ITT: Name ur price range, ur current guns/gear, I give buy list 4 civil war

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ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
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ruby patrolman
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- Sig Sauer M400 Enhanced, replaced the upper with a BCM 12....
Vigorous wagecucks famous landscape painting
  10/20/20
solid, you're close to set as far as guns (still need a .308...
ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
Yeah I'd love a .308/Creedmoor type setup, but I am poor as ...
Vigorous wagecucks famous landscape painting
  10/20/20
OK. Budget? And do you CCW?
ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
I don't CCW but I probably should, I think my carry permit e...
Vigorous wagecucks famous landscape painting
  10/20/20
OK. You keep ignoring the budget question, so I'm gonna just...
ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
My budget for this stuff is zero right now. I’m poor
Vigorous wagecucks famous landscape painting
  10/20/20
just buy a Tikka in 308
elite insecure black woman
  10/20/20
I would invest in body armor before more guns. I know I'm a...
Snowy twisted theatre brethren
  10/20/20
you can find armor now, but good luck finding plate carrier
elite insecure black woman
  10/20/20
Plate carriers seem to all be back in stock, for now
Territorial Foreskin
  10/20/20
yeah, main issue is that some (like LBT) don't have all the ...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
cosign this, you need 6 guns to maximize capabilities: - AR...
ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
Makes sense except why do you NEED a .22LR? Their use case ...
Snowy twisted theatre brethren
  10/21/20
if you're on foot and can only take one gun, there's a good ...
ruby patrolman
  10/22/20
Interesting. Never thought of that. Thanks.
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ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
i have nothing except a shitlib wife. budget of $2,500. live...
Marvelous Carnelian Gunner Church
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Glock 17 (larger hands and no plan to conceal) or Glock 19 ...
Territorial Foreskin
  10/20/20
Alright. 1. Canik TP9SA -- find one of these new in box (...
ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
180 I'd legit contract with you to serve as broker and deal ...
Marvelous Carnelian Gunner Church
  10/20/20
unfortunately I can't do that for the guns, as I don't have ...
ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
Also, get this: https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/collections/a...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
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mauve crackhouse juggernaut
  10/20/20
poast your budget and situation for a rec brother
ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
Have: a Beretta over/under shotgun I got from my dad. That&r...
Green Tattoo Toaster
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Sickened Boiling Water Sandwich
  10/20/20
you're gonna die, sorry. Lib hordes will chew you up
elite insecure black woman
  10/20/20
Sweet. That's enough to get everything you could need except...
ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
Lol they make a 1-10x variable scope now? My tiny pink 1...
Vigorous wagecucks famous landscape painting
  10/20/20
Yes they do -- and it's great. Atibal also makes a 1-10 that...
ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
we’re gonna need a bigger boat
Green Tattoo Toaster
  10/21/20
lmao I can go cheaper if that's the issue. It's less shit th...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
lol no I just had visions of my truck overflowing with weapo...
Green Tattoo Toaster
  10/21/20
If you drive a truck, consider getting an auxiliary fuel tan...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
amazing list thank you I’m gonna have to absorb this
Green Tattoo Toaster
  10/21/20
Yeah, no problem. If you want info on setting up a plate ...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Also, talk to me about night vision. Assume I know nothing, ...
Green Tattoo Toaster
  10/21/20
It's a) motherfucking expensive as fuck to get quality (he...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Amazing thread ty. I need to re-read a few times and underst...
Green Tattoo Toaster
  10/21/20
np, lmk if you have any questions If you decide you want ...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Glock 17 with night sights and light. 5 mags just over 1k ro...
Wonderful drunken house
  10/20/20
If not tac gear, do you want survival gear options, more gun...
ruby patrolman
  10/20/20
Gun recs and other home defense items. Wife with a baby on t...
Wonderful drunken house
  10/21/20
OK, you're pretty well set gun-wise, but here are a few opti...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Live a place where AR pistols are neutered so much there&rsq...
Wonderful drunken house
  10/21/20
time to move alternatively, look into getting a reloading...
ruby patrolman
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Also, have you replaced the trigger on your Glock? if not, g...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Have not and will not. Too many stories of trigger issues an...
Wonderful drunken house
  10/21/20
Agency Arms is generally flawless but suit self
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
have: glock 19 miscellaneous factors: single. live in urb...
Sable Friendly Grandma Internal Respiration
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Alright. My recommendation will look fairly similar to the o...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
$500 no guns
Topaz haunted graveyard
  10/21/20
- Canik TP9SA -- find one of these new in box (NIB) (importa...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
ty not a Glock, tho?
Topaz haunted graveyard
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Out of your price range right now, otherwise yes Glocks c...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
i c ty
Topaz haunted graveyard
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Np Any questions, lmk
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ruby patrolman
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$1,000, blue belt in karate from 8th grade, kitchen knives
Maize Jew
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1. Canik TP9SA -- find one of these new in box (NIB) (import...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
I like the rifle
Maize Jew
  10/21/20
It's one of the single best guns a person can own. Versatile...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
$3K. I have several handguns, but sold my rifles and shotgu...
ocher stirring puppy dilemma
  10/21/20
How urban are you?
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Just outside urban area in suburbs.
ocher stirring puppy dilemma
  10/21/20
Alright. Survival gear is because you may have to get the fu...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Holy fucking shit, brother. Thank you. I start buying today.
ocher stirring puppy dilemma
  10/21/20
yeah, np! any questions, make a thread with "Hegemon&qu...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Suburban. Own: Mini-14 in 556 (own because I'm in a DEEP ...
vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter
  10/21/20
Alright. I don't like Minis much because they're less modula...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
People love to hate on them, with some validity (it's not as...
vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter
  10/21/20
I don't hate them -- they're plenty fine to shoot. I don't l...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
180! No real experience with any of the above. I've never ...
vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter
  10/21/20
OK. I ask because Glocks have a sharper grip angle that is h...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Thanks for pistol recs. I'll check them out. Thoughts on...
vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter
  10/21/20
Pin and weld!! Wayyyy more capability out of a 14.5 -- my fa...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
I like mine too. It's fun to shoot and gets attention for be...
concupiscible dingle berry set
  10/22/20
If this is legal for you, grab it: https://shopruger.com/Rug...
ruby patrolman
  10/23/20
BCM RECCE 16 with a Vortex Spitfire 3x Prism scope Ruger ...
Avocado Curious Fortuitous Meteor
  10/21/20
I know where you are, lol -- at least I'm fairly sure I reme...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Holy shit, 180! I’m going to print this out. Thank you...
Avocado Curious Fortuitous Meteor
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180! Congrats on the weight loss! Keep it up, get jacked!
ruby patrolman
  10/23/20
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Brass insanely creepy jap
  10/21/20
1. Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
I'm going to be the king of the .22.
Brass insanely creepy jap
  10/22/20
The choice of actual assassins for 70 years.
concupiscible dingle berry set
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ruby patrolman
  10/23/20
$5 million budget. Potato farm in southern Idaho.
Big lodge
  10/21/20
lol - Two of everything on this list: http://www.autoadmit....
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
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Brass insanely creepy jap
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The UAV is a good idea. Do you think I should also get ...
Big lodge
  10/22/20
I mean, if you want it, but that wouldn't be nearly as high ...
ruby patrolman
  10/23/20
Another option is getting a rotary wing license and getting ...
ruby patrolman
  10/23/20
have a 12 gauge shotgun with limited amounts of buckshot and...
Cracking sapphire cuckoldry
  10/21/20
Unlimited? Alright, see: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
May bump later for personal recommendations but just want to...
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ruby patrolman
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Zastava M91 7.62x54r Zastava ZPAP 7.62x39 M&P Sport II...
Sepia flirting background story hall
  10/21/20
Do you have optics on any of them? Does the KP9 have a brace...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Yes on the Zastavas and AR. No optics on KP9 or Fal. The KP9...
Sepia flirting background story hall
  10/21/20
Ok. 1. KP9 recs: - Holosun 403 dot -- $140: https://www...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
180 ty
Sepia flirting background story hall
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Nothing except good outdoor skills from backpacking Urban ...
Razzle-dazzle swollen quadroon
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1. Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
$2000 Sig Sauer P320
mind-boggling location becky
  10/21/20
1. Any of the following for under $900 -- but prioritize one...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
You're the man
mind-boggling location becky
  10/21/20
np, any questions, lmk
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
LOL at responding to obeezy
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You're obsessed with me
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  10/21/20
I'll respond to any who poast for a rec, brother
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
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ruby patrolman
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Suburban Own one gun: Springfield Hellcat Willing to spen...
shimmering diverse parlor boltzmann
  10/21/20
Alright. If you mean that you are interested only in firearm...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
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Self-absorbed brilliant pit
  10/21/20
Why do you need this much prep weaponry? In Civil War II is...
vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter
  10/21/20
there are several layers of "ifs" and "hopes&...
Sepia flirting background story hall
  10/21/20
I'm not saying don't buy a gun. I have a few. But I th...
vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter
  10/21/20
I think there are certainly some people who would buy the ge...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
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ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
I mean, you'll see that I recommend rudimentary survival gea...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
9999 out of 10000, a LaRue vs. an Anderson the roll stamp wi...
vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter
  10/21/20
Having shot both, ljl at that comparison. You're right that ...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Do you remember what happened in Louisiana post Hurricane Ka...
Snowy twisted theatre brethren
  01/18/21
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ruby patrolman
  01/18/21
incredible thread bookmarked
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ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Really my concern would be gtfo of dodge as quickly as possi...
olive galvanic roast beef sex offender
  10/21/20
Don't ignore the med gear. Can give plenty of recs for the o...
ruby patrolman
  10/21/20
Suburban 357 magnum, 30 rounds 2 Kevlar helmets Lots of f...
titillating hilarious elastic band
  10/21/20
1. Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...
ruby patrolman
  10/22/20
Ty
titillating hilarious elastic band
  10/22/20
I live in a rural/exurb area on 5 acres, among some farmland...
concupiscible dingle berry set
  10/22/20
- (If your children are the reason you have no tactical gear...
ruby patrolman
  10/22/20
7k
odious round eye sweet tailpipe
  10/22/20
How urban? Family or single?
ruby patrolman
  10/22/20
moms basement outside major city
odious round eye sweet tailpipe
  10/22/20
1. Any of the following for under $1,900: - https://www.gu...
ruby patrolman
  10/22/20
Exurbs Ruger 10/22 with a handful of 25 round mags and a sl...
Bull headed base gaping
  10/22/20
Bug in is absolutely correct. You may need to be able to go ...
ruby patrolman
  10/22/20
180. TY.
Bull headed base gaping
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ruby patrolman
  10/22/20
Suburbs, kinda dense area. own ~30 guns mostly older militar...
motley nibblets hospital
  10/22/20
You're basically set, but you know that. I'll give you some ...
ruby patrolman
  10/22/20
Let's say I have $5k I want to spend. I already have a 9...
Thirsty comical organic girlfriend forum
  10/22/20
I wouldn't go with a hunting rifle first; you'll have zero C...
ruby patrolman
  10/22/20
Thanks, bro. I bought all of this, and it just arrived in th...
Thirsty comical organic girlfriend forum
  11/03/20
180!! What rifle did you go with?
ruby patrolman
  11/03/20
Some of the rifles I've linked on gunbroker have since sold;...
ruby patrolman
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ruby patrolman
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ruby patrolman
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ruby patrolman
  10/23/20
I have about 25 guns at any time, mostly old WWII battle ri...
talented principal's office
  10/23/20
I've elsewhere defended the selection of Gucci ARs, but will...
ruby patrolman
  10/23/20
You're working with May information. Supplies are not back ...
talented principal's office
  10/23/20
You're right that the Sig is an ok deal (although if you cli...
ruby patrolman
  10/24/20
$750 What lvl 4 plate to get?
elite insecure black woman
  10/23/20
Single plate or pair?
ruby patrolman
  10/23/20
pair
elite insecure black woman
  10/23/20
Hesco 4401: https://store.atarmor.com/Hesco_4400_Level_IV_St...
ruby patrolman
  10/23/20
note: I REALLY would save the money for good armor. Have you...
ruby patrolman
  10/23/20
link to good light weight armor
elite insecure black woman
  10/23/20
https://sabersolutions.com/collections/hesco-armor/products/...
ruby patrolman
  10/23/20
Tiny pink M67 bullets bouncing off like Nerf darts.
Brass insanely creepy jap
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ruby patrolman
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ruby patrolman
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Just copped a TLR-6 laser/light for my m&p9 and a compat...
mahogany hairy legs kitchen
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good any other guns/gear?
ruby patrolman
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ruby patrolman
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Sickened Boiling Water Sandwich
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Acogs https://imgur.com/gallery/T22AqZ4
Sickened Boiling Water Sandwich
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you're set for rifles, although you know I'm no great fan of...
ruby patrolman
  10/24/20
ACOGs are so prole
elite insecure black woman
  10/24/20
are noveske's prole?
Sickened Boiling Water Sandwich
  10/24/20
Yeah, I don't have any armor of any sort. Tons of cold we...
Sickened Boiling Water Sandwich
  10/24/20
1. Plate Carrier. I'd rec Crye unless you have unlimited bud...
ruby patrolman
  10/24/20
Have a Glock 23, wife who can shoot, and two young kids. Ur...
high-end karate
  10/24/20
1. Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...
ruby patrolman
  10/24/20
180, ty. Great work itt
high-end karate
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NP. Much more of a mobility/survival focus since you have ki...
ruby patrolman
  10/24/20
Ruger 220 slug w leupold 3-9 Weatherby 12 gauge semi auto ...
underhanded twinkling generalized bond
  10/24/20
You're set for guns. What kind of survival/outdoor gear do y...
ruby patrolman
  10/24/20
Uh a tent and a sleeping bag
underhanded twinkling generalized bond
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1. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit (add ibuprofen and t...
ruby patrolman
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ruby patrolman
  10/24/20
Wow
jade brunch
  10/24/20
poast situation for rec, bro
ruby patrolman
  10/24/20
I feel way behind.
smoky bateful trump supporter
  10/24/20
only thing to do is start now. give situation and budget.
ruby patrolman
  10/24/20
$50,000 6 shotguns of all hunting varieties + shockwave (al...
soul-stirring mustard yarmulke mother
  10/24/20
Not going to drop links for everything like dots since you e...
ruby patrolman
  10/25/20
Ty
soul-stirring mustard yarmulke mother
  10/30/20
anytime
ruby patrolman
  10/31/20
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ruby patrolman
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ruby patrolman
  10/26/20
https://twitter.com/selfdeclaredref/status/13209278080262348...
ruby patrolman
  10/27/20
$20, no guns just ninja throwing darts, a hapkido cane and d...
180 dun halford masturbator
  10/27/20
donate the $20 to your local church and pray without ceasing...
ruby patrolman
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ruby patrolman
  10/28/20
$5,000 - nothing live in shitlib city with strict gun law...
lemon alpha idiot
  10/31/20
RIP
motley nibblets hospital
  10/31/20
What are the gun laws? Are you able to own an AR?
ruby patrolman
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ruby patrolman
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ruby patrolman
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ruby patrolman
  11/03/20
any good cheap III+ plates available?
elite insecure black woman
  11/03/20
define cheap
ruby patrolman
  11/03/20
1 standard AR-15 build w/EOTech XPS3-0 1 pistol caliber c...
Snowy twisted theatre brethren
  01/17/21
Budget? General living environment (rural/suburban/urban)...
ruby patrolman
  01/18/21
I don't have a set budget. Live in a suburb.
Snowy twisted theatre brethren
  01/18/21
Alright. As with above, some of this is gun stuff, some of i...
ruby patrolman
  01/18/21
Ty. Live in a shit state I want to leave so CCW, 30 round ma...
Snowy twisted theatre brethren
  01/18/21
Absolutely move, brother. Well, depends on the nvg you g...
ruby patrolman
  01/18/21
I'd definitely move if I could. Fuck this shit. Ugh, NVG...
Snowy twisted theatre brethren
  01/18/21
Do what you have to do, but there's not enough money in the ...
ruby patrolman
  01/18/21
I have golden handcuffs (job that pays really well, lets me ...
Snowy twisted theatre brethren
  01/18/21
Stack cash and make a plan to get out. If you don't make a p...
ruby patrolman
  01/18/21
Also, once you've gotten everything else, get this: 18. A f...
ruby patrolman
  01/18/21
Oh, and if you're getting night vision, you need something t...
ruby patrolman
  01/18/21
ty. If nothing else, you have convinced me that while I've ...
Snowy twisted theatre brethren
  01/18/21
Lol yeah you can always spend way more. Only difference betw...
ruby patrolman
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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:32 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

Also include any relevant factors like whether you live in downtown, suburbs, rural, etc.

My recommended shopping list is here: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143621 -- but I don't give specific recs and there's a lot left up to you, as specific recs depend on price range and your situation; you could spend anywhere from $5,000 to $25,000 buying everything on that list, depending on how gucci you go.

Poast budget, any guns/tactical gear you already own, and your situation and I will give personal recs on what to buy before the coming troubles.

EDIT: This is Hegemon; if you have questions and don't want to drop them here, make a thread with my name in it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41146944)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:20 AM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41148341)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:28 AM
Author: Vigorous wagecucks famous landscape painting

- Sig Sauer M400 Enhanced, replaced the upper with a BCM 12.5" SBR upper. Trijicon 1-6x Accupoint variable scope, DD vertical grip and buttstock, suppressor (can't remember brand, its out of business now though)

- FrankenAR - using my former upper from the Sig, combined with a PSA lower, Redfield 3-9 scope, bipod

- HK/Walther .22 - styled like an MP5 - super fun and never jams https://secure.arnzenarms.com/product/walther/used-heckler-koch-mp5-22-faux-suppressor-22lr-2-mags-bsa-red-dot-no-box

- Beretta a400 Parallel Target - for my skeet shooting, shoots like a fucking dream

- CZ Scorpion - 9mm - has SBR registration and a suppressor. Magpul vertical grip. EO Tech 517. This gun is a literal blast to shoot

- Sig Sauer SP2022 - 9mm

- HK 45compact - .45

- Walther PPQ Navy - 9mm

- GLock 43 - 9mm

- Ruger .22 pistol

- old Ruger 10/22

- old semi auto 20 gauge shotgun



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41148398)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:02 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

solid, you're close to set as far as guns (still need a .308 or Creedmoor). those suppressors are niceeeee.

what's your budget for gear? do you already have plates, carrier, or chest rig?

and are you downtown in a major city/suburbs/rural?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41148694)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:06 PM
Author: Vigorous wagecucks famous landscape painting

Yeah I'd love a .308/Creedmoor type setup, but I am poor as fuck right now and need to research that stuff a bit.

No plates or gear like that

Currently close to downtown of a major city, but I can easily escape to deep suburbs if I need to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41148731)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:06 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

OK. Budget? And do you CCW?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41148738)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:09 PM
Author: Vigorous wagecucks famous landscape painting

I don't CCW but I probably should, I think my carry permit expired

on my to do list at the moment. hard to figure this stuff out during covid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41148769)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:34 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

OK. You keep ignoring the budget question, so I'm gonna just give you the cheapest recs in buy order and you can stop when you run out of money.

1. Carry holster for whichever of your pistols you wanna CCW, if you don't already have one -- $60-120. Idk which you would carry so I'm not gonna link a specific one.

2. Viper Tactical chest rig -- $60: https://www.military1st.com/bvchrigsopscoy-viper-special-ops-chest-rig-coyote.html

- cheap but not bad at all; way better than condor shit

3. Gas cans for your car -- $80: https://www.amazon.com/GarageBOSS-GB351-Gallon-Press-Pour/dp/B07GBBG5LZ/

- IDK what you drive but your car is the only thing keeping you from walking everywhere when shit hits the fan, so unless you drive a pickup with an auxiliary fuel tank in the bed, get some of these you can throw in your trunk or backseat that you can fill up when things start looking bad so you can extend your range if you have to drive.

4. Cheap backpack -- $50-80: https://www.amazon.com/NEVO-Backpack-Expandable-Capacity-Lightweight/dp/B07PYS7LSD

- I don't know what size you need to pack basic survival shit (fire kit, water container and filtration, tarp/poncho, cordage, sleeping bag) and anything else you want to be able to keep on you if you're on foot, but don't get one bigger than 60l -- you may have to hump that bitch around and weight matters. This should function as a day pack if you need to go out when shit hits and you're already holed up.

5. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

- if you or your family have an injury you can't treat, you are FUCKED. Get this and then learn how to use it.

6. Lifestraws -- $20-200: https://www.lifestraw.com/collections/frontpage

- You need water filtration for you and any in your party; if you have family, get them each a straw and also get the family filtration system so you can set it up wherever you go. Which individual models you get is up to you -- basic straw is cheaper but the Go and Flex model that come with a bottle and bladder respectively are way easier to use.

7. Baofeng radio pack -- $200: https://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-Antennas-Speaker-Batteries-Programming/dp/B077BRMVLB/

- get this if you have family you're gonna wanna communicate with; if not, get one baofeng and spend the rest on a AA battery clamshell and an extended antenna for it.

8. Duty/battle belt -- $200-350: https://www.ronintactics.com/store/p80/Task_Force_%28TF%29_Belt.html

- it's helpful to have a belt you can quickly put on and take off with your gear on it, rather than trying to use your pants belt as a molle belt. Outfit as needed with the following:

• AR mag pouches: https://esstac.com/5-56/

• Pistol mag pouches: https://esstac.com/shop-all/magazine-pouches/pistols/

• Pistol holster: safariland is best but which model just depends on which gun you wanna carry

9. Level 3 plates -- $400-3,000 at this point you should be saving for armor. I know it's expensive. IDK which level plates you want, but get level 3 or better, and I recommend shooter's cut in at least 10x12. Buy Hesco, Ceradyne, Velocity Systems, Protech, BAE Systems, LTC/Hoplite, TenCate, Highcom, or Mehler Vario -- most other brands are chinkshit. AR500, Botach, any steel armor, etc. is largely a waste of money.

10. Carrier -- see approved brands here: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143621

11. Thompson/Center bolt action in .308 or Creedmoor -- $550: https://www.tcarms.com/firearms/bolt-action-rifles/venture/venture-ii

- This is so low because you're very urban and also probably aren't going to be actively sniping people; if you want to be an effective urban guerilla though, this should be way higher. Decent value for the money.

12. Vortex Diamondback 6-24x scope for the bolt gun -- $500: https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-diamondback-tactical-6-24x50-ffp-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=22

13. Harris type bipod for bolt gun -- $45: https://www.amazon.com/UTG-High-pro-Shooters-Bipod-Rubber/dp/B001BR4VME

There you go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41149448)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:40 PM
Author: Vigorous wagecucks famous landscape painting

My budget for this stuff is zero right now. I’m poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41149509)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:07 PM
Author: elite insecure black woman

just buy a Tikka in 308

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41148753)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:11 PM
Author: Snowy twisted theatre brethren

I would invest in body armor before more guns. I know I'm a minority opinion but I don't see the need for more than a dozen guns. It is far more important to have parts and ammo for a solid set of guns for various scenarios.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41148782)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:13 PM
Author: elite insecure black woman

you can find armor now, but good luck finding plate carrier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41148800)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 3:07 PM
Author: Territorial Foreskin

Plate carriers seem to all be back in stock, for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41150151)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:35 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

yeah, main issue is that some (like LBT) don't have all the accessories back yet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41153943)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:38 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

cosign this, you need 6 guns to maximize capabilities:

- AR in 5.56

- pistol (full size or mid size)

- bolt or gas gun in 7.62/Creedmoor/bigger (e.g. .300 WinMag, .338 Lapua)

- .22lr semiautomatic rifle

- semiauto shotgun

- subcompact pistol

the rest is just extra, and I'd put armor/chest rig before all but two of those guns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41153520)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 5:41 PM
Author: Snowy twisted theatre brethren

Makes sense except why do you NEED a .22LR? Their use case is that they're a plinking gun that's cheap on ammo. You can use them to hunt small game. But is there really anything they can do that the AR can't?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41158851)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:32 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

if you're on foot and can only take one gun, there's a good case for them -- they're light and their ammo is light, so you can carry a lot of it with far less weight than AR ammo. 1,000 rounds of the lightest 5.56 weighs a little over 26lb; 1,000 rounds of .22 weighs just under 8lb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41163858)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 2:08 PM
Author: Snowy twisted theatre brethren

Interesting. Never thought of that. Thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41173220)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 2:19 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:39 PM
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Date: November 2nd, 2020 10:34 AM
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Date: November 4th, 2020 3:14 AM
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Date: November 4th, 2020 6:00 PM
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Date: November 4th, 2020 8:17 PM
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Date: November 6th, 2020 1:18 PM
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Date: November 25th, 2020 3:25 PM
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Date: November 27th, 2020 11:13 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2021 10:54 PM
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Date: August 3rd, 2021 9:12 PM
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Date: November 22nd, 2021 7:02 PM
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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:36 PM
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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:39 PM
Author: Marvelous Carnelian Gunner Church

i have nothing except a shitlib wife. budget of $2,500. live in a white college town

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41149942)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:59 PM
Author: Territorial Foreskin

Glock 17 (larger hands and no plan to conceal) or Glock 19

Basic Assault Rifle 15

Get as much ammo as you can purchase with the rest of the money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41150096)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 3:34 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Alright.

1. Canik TP9SA -- find one of these new in box (NIB) (important because it comes with an extra mag and a holster) on gunbroker, and don't pay more than $450: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882013070

- CCW holster -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/Fierce-Defender-Holster-Winter-Warrior/dp/B075F8S1VB

- light for pistol -- $125: https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-69260-Weapon-Tactical-Flashlight/dp/B00B8Q31UQ

2. Any of the following for under $900 -- but prioritize ones with a longer handguard/rail like the first or second link:

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881895664

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881972354

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881634660

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881758403

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880064072

3. Sling for rifle -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071W3P55P/

- sling mount points -- $10: https://www.amazon.com/3-Pack-Swivel-System-Tactical-Swivels/dp/B08JCN5XDY/

4. 5 mags for rifle -- $65: https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/magpul-pmag-30-ar-m4-gen-m2-moe-magazine

5. Red dot for rifle -- $140: https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Holosun-Paralow-HS403B-Red-Dot-Sight-with-Push-But-p/holo-hs403b.htm

6. Streamlight light/mount/button for rifle -- $170: https://www.patriotoutfitters.com/streamlight-pro-tac-rail-mount-hl-x-weapon-light

7. Viper tactical chest rig -- $60: https://www.military1st.com/bvchrigsopscoy-viper-special-ops-chest-rig-coyote.html

8. Radio -- $60: https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Dual-Band-Handheld-Complete-Programming/dp/B08GPS9MF9/

9. Backpack -- $60: https://www.amazon.com/NEVO-RHINO-Internal-Backpack-Ultralight/dp/B07S8MVT2J/

10. Ammo:

- Rifle -- $200: https://greencountryammo.com/556-x-45mm-55gr-TP-Lead-Free-Frangible-Ammunition-Non-Toxic-FREE-AMMO-CAN-ON-SALE-LIMITED-TIME-Reman-Brass-Bulk-Pack-300-Rounds-_p_156.html

- Pistol -- $125: https://www.2awarehouse.com/patriot-defense-9mm-115gr-fmj-reman-brass-250-rounds-bulk-limit-1/?utm_source=ammoseek

TOTAL: $2,360

That gives you some ammo to zero the rifle and get comfortable with both guns. DO NOT JUST BLOW THROUGH THE AMMO -- do dryfire drills and keep range drills low round count so you maximize ammo efficiency. Keep 180 rifle rounds and 100 pistol rounds in reserve, and buy more rifle ammo as able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41150380)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:15 PM
Author: Marvelous Carnelian Gunner Church

180 I'd legit contract with you to serve as broker and deal quarterback if you could handle all logistics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41153359)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:26 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

unfortunately I can't do that for the guns, as I don't have an FFL (if you mean purchasing them) -- that's highly illegal and also pretty logistically infeasible. The rest I could do that for.

myveryownzozothrowaway@gmail.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41153432)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:12 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Also, get this: https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/collections/accessories/products/fieldcraft-survival-minimalist-survival-kit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156632)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:39 PM
Author: mauve crackhouse juggernaut



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Date: October 20th, 2020 3:35 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

poast your budget and situation for a rec brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41150385)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 3:41 PM
Author: Green Tattoo Toaster

Have: a Beretta over/under shotgun I got from my dad. That’s it.

Outer edge of medium-large city

Budget: whatever it takes, but let’s start at $20 G

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41150437)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 3:43 PM
Author: Sickened Boiling Water Sandwich



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Date: October 20th, 2020 4:09 PM
Author: elite insecure black woman

you're gonna die, sorry. Lib hordes will chew you up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41150657)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:02 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Sweet. That's enough to get everything you could need except night vision.

1. Wilson's Enhanced P320 Carry Action Tune with Straight trigger (second link claims in-stock) -- $1,400: https://shopwilsoncombat.com/Order-Wilson_SIG-Collaboration-Pistols/products/1306/ / https://www.smpguns.com/wilson-combat/beretta-glock-sig-1401/sig-wilson-combat-p320-carry-tan-module-9mm-action-tune-with-straight-trigger-3131371

- three pistol mags -- $150: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/sig-sauer-p250-p320-9mm-21-round-magazine.html

- Concealed Carry holster -- $65: https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/products/sig-sauer-p320-low-vis-holster-iwb

- Surefire pistol light -- $300: https://www.surefire.com/products/illumination/weapon-lights/x300u-b/

- Trijicon RMR red dot -- $550: https://www.opticsplanet.com/trijicon-3-25-adj-red-rmr-type-2.html

- 1,000 rounds 9mm (save 500 rounds; the rest can be used to train) -- $550: https://www.extremereloadingnv.com/product/extreme-reloading-9mm-115gr-rn-reload-1/

2. A high quality AR. I've given you a few options because with that budget, you can sort of pick whatever you want. My recommendation is get the SR-15 or the Radian with the Vortex for $5k. That said, there are a few options for you below. Price is the max you should pay for that model:

- KAC SR-15 -- $2,800: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881868909 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881888136

- Triarc TSR-15SE -- $2,300: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881669655

- Radian Model 1 -- $2,800 (first link is more because it comes with an excellent scope and mount; a great deal if you want it): https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880981697 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880599948 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881780522

- LaRue PredatOBR -- $2,600: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880051851

- Christensen Arms CA-15 -- $2,200: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879608651

- Daniel Defense M4 V7 -- $1,900: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881304796 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881805902 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881597959

- Geissele Super Duty -- $1,900: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881946995

3. Ammo. Zero your optics with the 62gr, but other than that do nothing with it; practice with the 55gr. Stockpile 1,000 rounds of 5.56 (as much of this as possible should be 62gr); the rest can be used to train.

- 2,000 rounds 5.56 -- $1,420: https://www.finfeatherfur.com/winchester-5-56-nato-62gr-m855-fmj-green-tip-case-of-1000-rounds/ + https://miwallcorp.com/winchester-ammunition-5-56-55-Grain-full-metal-jacket-1000-rounds-case/

4. Ferro Slingster -- $55: https://www.skdtac.com/Ferro-Concepts-The-Slingster-Updated-p/fer.113.htm

5. 10 ETS AR Mags -- $180: https://www.etsgroup.us/ETS-Group-AR15-Magazine-30-Round-p/ar15-30.htm

6. AR light -- $430: https://www.opticsplanet.com/surefire-scout-light-500-lumens-white-light.html

7. A high quality Low Power Variable Optic. These are great because you can use them as a red dot and also as a scope -- if you need a single do-it-all optic, these are it. If you got the Radian with the Vortex above, you can skip this. Vortex is backordered but you can find them on Tacswap. I'd get the Vortex because it's a little cheaper with better zoom, better field of view, and they have the best warranty around, but Nightforce is good enough SOCOM adopted it. Can't go wrong with either.

- Vortex Razor Gen III 1-10x24 -- $2,300: https://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-razor-hd-gen-iii-1-10x24-riflescope.html / https://www.tacswap.com/post/5f3d149e8351100007af373b

- Nightforce ATACR 1-8x24 -- $2,800: https://www.opticsplanet.com/nightforce-atacr-1-8x24-34mm-riflescope.html

8. Badger 34mm scope condition one modular mount -- $305: https://ustacticalsupply.com/conditiononemodularmount.aspx

9. Offset red dot. The utility in having this offset in addition to the scope is a) having a backup sight in the unlikely event the scope fails, and b) dots have unlimited eye relief, meaning they are much faster than a scope in close quarters. Offsetting a dot with your LPVO is best of both worlds.

- Aimpoint Micro T2 -- $800: https://www.opticsplanet.com/aimpoint-micro-t-2-red-dot-sight-200170.html

10. Badger offset red dot mount (backordered) -- $90: https://www.eurooptic.com/Badger-Ordnance-COMM-J-arm-Tan-Mount-200-10.aspx + https://www.eurooptic.com/Badger-Ordnance-COMM-Aimpoint-T1-T2-Tan-Micro-Sight-Mount-200-11.aspx

- If you got the Radian with the Vortex on a Scalarworks mount, get the Arisaka offset mount instead (being careful to get the correct baseplate) -- $140: https://milspecretail.com/product/firearm-accessories/sights-optics/optic-mounts/arisaka-defense-offset-optic-mount/

11. Here's where you have to figure out part of how you want to set up your plate carrier. It's fairly personalized -- what I like on mine may be very different than you want on yours. At a minimum, I'd do the Kangaroo panel, side pouches and then get a radio pocket, some 5.56 pouches (which strap onto the lasercuts all over the carrier), and maybe a few utility pouches. This gives you the ability to add carrying capacity as needed, but don't do so unnecessarily -- you should try to go as slick as possible. All told, you're looking at around $700 here.

- LBT G3 Plate Carrier -- $355: https://lbtinc.com/collections/g3

- Kangaroo panel -- $70: https://lbtinc.com/collections/g3/products/6904b

- Side pouches -- $70: https://lbtinc.com/collections/g3/products/2739qk

- 5.56 speed draw pouches (only need one or two of these) -- $37: https://lbtinc.com/collections/apchs/products/6146

- 5.56 pouches -- $45: https://lbtinc.com/collections/rifle-magazine-pouches/products/9010?variant=16404313079851

- Radio pocket -- $55: https://lbtinc.com/collections/radio-pouches/products/6015d

- Utility pouches: https://lbtinc.com/collections/utlp

12. Hesco 4800 Large 10x12 shooter cut plates x2 -- $2,600: https://sabersolutions.com/collections/hesco-armor/products/hesco-4800-level-iv-standalone?variant=21332281720912

13. Mayflower UW chest rig (it's not uncommon to want a chest rig for times you don't want to lug armor around but also want some sort of fighting capability in the even something unexpected comes up; typically used when moving long distances on foot and trying to stay lightweight) -- $203: https://www.velsyst.com/products/uw-chest-rig-gen-iv

14. A fighting belt is different from a regular belt in that it has molle webbing to attach pouches. It should have a holster, at least one pistol mag pouch, and first aid kit; the rest is personal preference -- I like to run two AR mags on my belt, there are some people who run four, some who run none. More info on setting up a belt here: https://youtu.be/__78Ve2dIUo General upside of a belt is that it puts weight on your hips instead of shoulders (where a plate carrier or chest rig places it). I'm linking the QLS system with the holster below because it's very handy when in vehicles to be able to take the holster off the belt. All told, looking at about $5-600

- Ronin Tactics molle belt -- $200: https://www.ronintactics.com/store/p80/Task_Force_%28TF%29_Belt.html

- Safariland 7377 pistol holster with QLS system: https://safariland.com/products/model-7377-7ts-als-concealment-belt-loop-holster-34850 + https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MF48AQ/ + https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002868Q46/ + https://www.trex-arms.com/store/New-Thigh-Strap/ + https://store.otdefense.com/products/als-nub-mod-black

- Pistol mag pouches: https://esstac.com/shop-all/magazine-pouches/pistols/

- Blue force micro trauma kit (basic supplies, molle mount -- don't use to treat things when you have access to the big solatac kit) -- $130: https://www.blueforcegear.com/medical-items.html

- AR mag pouches: https://esstac.com/5-56/

15. ESEE 4 knife -- $115: https://www.bladehq.com/item--ESEE-RAT-Cutlery-RC4--4378

- you can carry this on the plate carrier or on your belt, but you should have it on one of those. I like belt.

16. Peltor Sport Tac 500 electronic hearing protection -- $120: https://www.amazon.com/Peltor-Electronic-Protector-Bluetooth-Protection/dp/B06W56YRWJ

- If you want any situational awareness at all after 10 rounds, you'll want these

17. Waterproof backpack (50 liter) -- $60: https://www.amazon.com/NEVO-Backpack-Expandable-Capacity-Lightweight/dp/B07PYS7LSD

- You should carry the survival kit (#19) in this

18. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit (add ibuprofen and tylenol to this) -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

19. Five CATourniquets (add 3 to main med kit, keep two on you in pockets/pouches when shit kicks off) -- $150: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

20. Survival kit. This is a combination of things you should throw together; I realize you're likely far from a survivalist, but if shit happens and you've got to move, you'd rather have this stuff than not -- trust me. Keep this in the waterproof backpack.

- You need water filtration for you and any in your party; if you have family, get them each a straw and also get the family filtration system so you can set it up wherever you go. Which individual models you get is up to you -- basic straw is cheaper but the Go and Flex models that come with a bottle and bladder respectively are way easier to use. Lifestraws -- $20-200: https://www.lifestraw.com/collections/frontpage

- Fire kit. This is just a gallon ziplock, which you should fill a quarter of the way with petroleum jelly, and then fill to the halfway mark with cotton balls. Close the ziplock and knead the vaseline into the cotton balls until they're thoroughly saturated; add more vaseline as needed. Add a 5 pack of bic lighters and this is set.

- 200' of paracord -- $25: https://www.amazon.com/PARACORD-PLANET-Mil-Spec-Commercial-Paracord/dp/B00ACL4VJI/

- 20° sleeping bag (if in colder climate, you may want to get a better one than this; I can recommend a few) -- $130: https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/eco-trail-synthetic-20-nf0a3s76

- Sleeping pad -- $45: https://www.rei.com/product/829826/therm-a-rest-z-lite-sol-sleeping-pad

- Poncho/shelter -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/USGI-Industries-Military-Emergency-Survival/dp/B083YNW98M/

- Water container, either a canteen or bladder; I like this one:

- Food; you can get MREs, or get 5 pounds of beef jerky and some of these bars -- just make sure you have some non-perishable food ready to go in case you have to hit the road: https://www.sosproducts.com/SOS-food-bar-p/350237.htm

- Solar phone charger -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/26800mAh-Riapow-Wireless-Portable-Flashlight/dp/B088WG2VXT/

- Garmin GPS -- $330: https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-GPSMAP-High-Sensitivity-GLONASS-Receiver/dp/B00HWL9BQ4/

- Headlamp -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/GearLight-Headlamp-Flashlight-S500-PACK/dp/B07QGRWZNB/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=headlamp&qid=1603254078&sr=8-5

21. Radio. if you have family, get the set; otherwise, get the single.

- Baofeng set -- $150: https://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-Amateur-Walkie-Talkies-Portable/dp/B07ZX5CWPW/

- Baofeng single -- $110: https://www.amazon.com/BTECH-UV-5X3-Tri-Band-Amateur-Earpiece/dp/B01J2W4JUI/ + https://www.amazon.com/Nagoya-NA-320A-2M-1-25M-70CM-144-220-440Mhz-BTECH/dp/B01K10B9XK/ + https://www.amazon.com/BTECH-PC03-Genuine-Programming-Cable/dp/B00HUB0ONK/

22. Five to ten gas cans (depending on your vehicle/space) -- $125-250: https://www.amazon.com/GarageBOSS-GB351-Gallon-Press-Pour/dp/B07GBBG5LZ/

- this will extend your driving range significantly; when things start getting bad you can fill them and place them in your trunk

23. Salomon Quest boots -- $230: https://www.rei.com/product/127770/salomon-quest-4d-3-gtx-hiking-boots-mens

- Best boots I've ever worn, and if things go to shit you need footwear that can take a beating in the event you're outside

24. Shooting gloves -- $45: https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/ironsight-sensor-gloves-266842?cat=136,26,6

25. Ruger 10/22 (use for plinking, small game) -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-1022-carbine-blackgray-semi-automatic-rifle-22-long-rifle/p/1538005

- Leapers 1-8x28 scope -- $150: https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-1-8x28-30mm-close-quarters-multi-range-combat-riflescope.html

- Talley mount rings (high) -- $60: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/ruger-rimfire-10-22-steel-rings-for-dovetail-setup/

- 2,000 rounds .22 -- $60 x4 -- https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-remington-thunderbolt-40-grain-lead-hv-bulk-pack-ammo-tb22b

26. Thompson/Center bolt action in .308 -- $550: https://www.tcarms.com/firearms/bolt-action-rifles/venture/venture-ii

- As I said in the other poast where I recommend this, it's as low as it is because you're very urban and also probably aren't going to be actively sniping people; if you want to be an effective, active urban guerilla, this should be much higher and we would prioritize a better bolt gun + add in a Kestrel ballistics calculator; as is, this is sufficient for some rudimentary sniping or for hunting.

- Vortex Diamondback 6-24x scope -- $500: https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-diamondback-tactical-6-24x50-ffp-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=22

- Harris type bipod -- $45: https://www.amazon.com/UTG-High-pro-Shooters-Bipod-Rubber/dp/B001BR4VME

- 750 rounds 7.62 (use up to 250rds of this to zero optics and create a dope chart) $150 x3 -- https://lohmanarms.com/product/fiocchi-308-winchester-147gr-fmj-ammo-250ct-bulk-pack/

TOTAL: ~$19,850 (estimating high where item choice is allowed, and assigning guesstimates to items not priced/linked, such as lighters).

I highly recommend getting training with this stuff. This list will give you excellent quality stuff, such that you will be more than set equipment-wise for anything that comes your way. However, if you don't have training, you're still gonna be up shit creek without a paddle. I fucking love nice guns and gear, as is surely obvious, but if forced to choose, it is better to buy middle-of-the-road equipment and spend the rest on training. I recommend the following training companies, in order of preference:

- GBRS Group (the very best on this list -- entirely former DEVGRU SEALs -- but idk if they're taking civilian clients rn)

- Fieldcraft Survival

- Tony Cowden / Capable Inc.

- Haley Strategic

- Ronin Tactics (stupidly kitschy at times, but one of the best tactical instructors I've ever seen)

- Aztec Training Services

- Core Vision Training

- Esoteric / Yousef Sansour

- Frank Proctor Shooting

- Kagwerks

- Viking Tactics / Kyle Lamb

- Vigilance Elite

- Pat McNamara

- Direct Action Resource Center (DARC)

- Shaw Shooting

- Combat Shooting and Tactics (CSAT) / Paul Howe

- Baer Solutions

- Lead Faucet Tactical

- Trident Concepts

- Thunder Ranch

- Gunsite Academy

- Sage Dynamics

- EAG Tactical

Let me know if you have any questions (or if you'd like the longer range gun prioritized a little more highly).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41153256)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:06 PM
Author: Vigorous wagecucks famous landscape painting

Lol they make a 1-10x variable scope now?

My tiny pink 1-6x is crying right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41153304)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:27 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Yes they do -- and it's great. Atibal also makes a 1-10 that's much cheaper but great for the price point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41153436)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:23 PM
Author: Green Tattoo Toaster

we’re gonna need a bigger boat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156213)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:25 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

lmao I can go cheaper if that's the issue. It's less shit than it looks like because a bunch of it goes on the rifle, the plate carrier is all one piece despite being 7 list items, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156231)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:30 PM
Author: Green Tattoo Toaster

lol no I just had visions of my truck overflowing with weapons, I’m reading your list more carefully now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156285)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:51 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

If you drive a truck, consider getting an auxiliary fuel tank. Also look at getting a decked bed storage system if you don't regularly tow gooseneck; it makes packing this shit so much easier. Also, if you're interested in dropping even more money, replace item #25 on your list with this:

25. DD5V4 in .308 -- $2,600: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881820326

- This is an excellent longer range gun; you could snipe or hunt well with this.

- Vortex Viper 6-24x scope -- $950: https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-viper-hst-6-24x50-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=969

- V8 Atlas bipod with quick detach -- $280: https://www.larue.com/products/atlas-bipod-bt10-nc-and-lt271-qd-mount-combo/

- 750 rounds 7.62 (use up to 250rds of this to zero optics and create a dope chart) $150 x3 -- https://lohmanarms.com/product/fiocchi-308-winchester-147gr-fmj-ammo-250ct-bulk-pack/

It'll give you a fantastic AR10 rather than an ok bolt gun.

Only thing left after night vision is to get a little more survival equipment and a drone you can use to surveil targets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156443)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:25 PM
Author: Green Tattoo Toaster

amazing list thank you I’m gonna have to absorb this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156232)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:31 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Yeah, no problem.

If you want info on setting up a plate carrier, belt, or rifle, look up:

- Garand Thumb (AFSOC guy who does a ton of gear reviews; look at his setup videos)

- Fieldcraft Survival / Mike Glover (ex-CAG, CIA, and Green Beret who runs a training company; look up his "basics of pistol" and "basics of carbine" videos, and his CQB videos)

- Vigilance Elite / Shawn Ryan (ex-SEAL and CIA, runs training company, has great videos on CQB room entry and what range you should use to zero your carbine)

- UF Pro's Guide to CQB (run by Israeli SOF): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOv4gE-dhrTBknVIi9Ey8B7Anx80C21n7

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156292)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:28 PM
Author: Green Tattoo Toaster

Also, talk to me about night vision. Assume I know nothing, because I don’t. Tyvmia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156272)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:44 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

It's

a) motherfucking expensive as fuck to get quality (hell, even the shit stuff is expensive)

b) the single greatest advantage you can have

If you have the cash to burn, fuck yeah; if not, it's not gonna kill you -- people have been doing combat without it for thousands of years.

NV can be scopes, binoculars, or goggles; goggles are typically best. Goggles are typically helmet mounted; this can be either a ballistic helmet which would serve as body armor, or a "bump" helmet which really protects against nothing except bumping your head -- but it is lighter and much cheaper. Another option is a mount like this: https://www.raptortactical.com/home/106-raptor-tactical-sentinel-skull-crusher-gen-20.html -- I don't recommend given that if you're getting nods, you can afford a decent ballistic helmet.

There are a few different types:

- monoculars which cover one eye; half of your vision is dark and half is NV. this is known to take a ton of training and reps to get used to. Don't recommend unless you're able to commit that time.

- dual tubes (e.g. a tube for both eyes); this is much better, but also more expensive. This is best middle ground imo.

- pano tubes which run two tubes to each eye -- see: https://www.eotechinc.com/ground-panoramic-night-vision-goggle-gpnvg-white-phosphor -- and will no shit run you $50,000 -- it's also what US SOF uses and there's nothing better. You really don't need this unless you have cash to burn.

Best color to get is white phosphor, imo; see this video for comparison and realize all three devices he's using are incredibly high quality ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zns4sqYTVDg&ab_channel=NITEWALKER

If you get NVG, you can mount infrared and laser to your rifle to see and shoot even better in the dark

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156388)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:02 PM
Author: Green Tattoo Toaster

Amazing thread ty. I need to re-read a few times and understand everything you’ve posted now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156558)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:03 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

np, lmk if you have any questions

If you decide you want to go even nicer, see equipment recs in this poast and where they differ from yours, go with these: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154439

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156562)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 4:13 PM
Author: Wonderful drunken house

Glock 17 with night sights and light. 5 mags just over 1k rounds.

Daniel Defense M4V11 pro with light, eotech + magnifier, sling, forward grip. 5 mags, 500 rounds.

M1A Super Match with sling. 3 magazines and 500 rounds.

Benelli m4 (m1014). 100 rounds.

Ruger 10/22 with vortex. 5 magazines and 2k rounds.

Budget of 3k - not looking for body armor / tacticool shit. Urban city with restrictive gun laws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41150687)



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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:03 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

If not tac gear, do you want survival gear options, more gun recs, or other useful things (e.g. drones)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41153265)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:37 AM
Author: Wonderful drunken house

Gun recs and other home defense items. Wife with a baby on the way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41153958)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:12 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

OK, you're pretty well set gun-wise, but here are a few options:

- PSA 9mm "pistol" -- $750. Out of stock rn but decent home defense PCC, can stick a dot and a light on for another few hundred dollars: https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-8-9mm-1-10-7-lightweight-m-lok-moe-sba3-pistol-5165450029.html

- Suppressors; get a form 1 and suppress whatever gun you anticipate grabbing if something goes bump in the night (presumably the Glock) -- it will be far less traumatic on your wife and kid if that goes as quietly as possible.

- Alternatively, if the glock is your daily carry, buy a Sig P320 and form 1 that.

- If you don't already carry and you like Glock, get a Glock 26 and your CCW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154146)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:39 PM
Author: Wonderful drunken house

Live a place where AR pistols are neutered so much there’s not point in getting them. Also can’t carry in my county. Also no suppressors.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156857)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 2:57 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

time to move

alternatively, look into getting a reloading setup: https://www.dillonprecision.com/super-1050-reloader_8_1_23877.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157436)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:16 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Also, have you replaced the trigger on your Glock? if not, get a drop in from Agency Arms

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156167)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:38 PM
Author: Wonderful drunken house

Have not and will not. Too many stories of trigger issues and misfires when people try to drop in triggers on standard glocks. The the Glock sits right next to my bed - it’s my go to home defense in the night, and I’d rather just get better using the stock trigger than an aftermarket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156845)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 2:58 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Agency Arms is generally flawless but suit self

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157448)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:44 AM
Author: Sable Friendly Grandma Internal Respiration

have: glock 19

miscellaneous factors: single. live in urban setting (high rise with high walkability score but not right downtown in central business district). we had some protests in my neighborhood but nothing terrifying in terms of violence/property damage.

budget: idk you tell me what I need. I'm wagecuck rich ($400-$550k biglaw senior/counsel in a low SALT tax state), so I should probably be able to afford whatever if violent niggers really are gonna be breaking down my gate soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154006)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:15 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

Alright. My recommendation will look fairly similar to the one I gave the previous guy with a large budget -- if you take a look at the price tag and would rather I go cheaper, I can do that. If you want to go minimalist, go with just the AR and accessories, pistol accessories, belt and accessories, and chest rig; if you want a more comprehensive solution, get everything -- view the survival gear as an insurance policy, it will be especially useful if you have to get out of sorta-downtown.

1. Pistol accessories:

- Concealed Carry holster -- $80: https://hiddenhybridholsters.com/products/glock-glock-19-23-25-32-38-single-clip-strong-side-appendix-iwb?_pos=4&_sid=adcd6107d&_ss=r

- Surefire pistol light -- $300: https://www.surefire.com/products/illumination/weapon-lights/x300u-b/

- Trijicon RMR red dot -- $550: https://www.opticsplanet.com/trijicon-3-25-adj-red-rmr-type-2.html

- 1,000 rounds 9mm (save 500 rounds; the rest can be used to train) -- $550: https://www.extremereloadingnv.com/product/extreme-reloading-9mm-115gr-rn-reload-1/

2. A high quality AR. I've given you a few options because with that budget, you can sort of pick whatever you want. My recommendation is get the SR-15 or the Radian with the Vortex for $5k. That said, there are a few options for you below. Price is the max you should pay for that model:

- KAC SR-15 -- $2,800: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881868909 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881888136

- Radian Model 1 -- $2,800 (first link is more because it comes with an excellent scope and mount; a great deal if you want it): https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880981697 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880599948 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881780522 / https://radianweapons.com/rifle?SID=58vfs3ukqbh4v2go5nvpicnh95

- Triarc TSR-15SE -- $2,300: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881669655

- LaRue PredatOBR -- $2,600: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880051851

- Christensen Arms CA-15 -- $2,200: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879608651

- Daniel Defense M4 V7 -- $1,900: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881304796 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881805902 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881597959

3. Ammo/mags/light. Zero your optics with the 62gr, but other than that do nothing with it; practice with the 55gr. Stockpile 1,000 rounds of 5.56 (as much of this as possible should be 62gr); the rest can be used to train.

- 2,000 rounds 5.56 -- $1,420: https://www.finfeatherfur.com/winchester-5-56-nato-62gr-m855-fmj-green-tip-case-of-1000-rounds/ + https://miwallcorp.com/winchester-ammunition-5-56-55-Grain-full-metal-jacket-1000-rounds-case/

- 10 ETS AR Mags -- $180: https://www.etsgroup.us/ETS-Group-AR15-Magazine-30-Round-p/ar15-30.htm

- AR light -- $430: https://www.opticsplanet.com/surefire-scout-light-500-lumens-white-light.html

4. Ferro Slingster -- $55: https://www.skdtac.com/Ferro-Concepts-The-Slingster-Updated-p/fer.113.htm

5. Forward grip -- $15-30: https://bravocompanyusa.com/vertical-grips-hand-stops/

- Whether to use a vertical foregrip, or an angled grip -- called a "KAG" on that page -- or nothing at all is an issue of personal preference, but in my experience they make it remarkably easier to reduce muzzle rise. Also realize that the short vertical grips are meant to be held like this: https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Daniel-Defense-Vertical-Grip-2-1-768x512.jpg -- rather than like a handle.

6. A high quality Low Power Variable Optic. These are great because you can use them as a red dot and also as a scope -- if you need a single do-it-all optic, these are it. If you got the Radian with the Vortex above, you can skip this. Vortex is backordered but you can find them on Tacswap. I'd get the Vortex because it's a little cheaper with better zoom, better field of view, and they have the best warranty around, but Nightforce is good enough SOCOM adopted it. Can't go wrong with either.

- Vortex Razor Gen III 1-10x24 -- $2,300: https://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-razor-hd-gen-iii-1-10x24-riflescope.html / https://www.tacswap.com/post/5f3d149e8351100007af373b

- Nightforce ATACR 1-8x24 -- $2,800: https://www.opticsplanet.com/nightforce-atacr-1-8x24-34mm-riflescope.html

7. Badger 34mm scope condition one modular mount -- $305: https://ustacticalsupply.com/conditiononemodularmount.aspx

8. Offset red dot. The utility in having this offset in addition to the scope is a) having a backup sight in the unlikely event the scope fails, and more importantly, b) dots have unlimited eye relief, meaning they are much faster than a scope in close quarters. Offsetting a dot with your LPVO is best of both worlds.

- Aimpoint Micro T2 -- $800: https://www.opticsplanet.com/aimpoint-micro-t-2-red-dot-sight-200170.html

9. Badger offset red dot mount (backordered) -- $90: https://www.eurooptic.com/Badger-Ordnance-COMM-J-arm-Tan-Mount-200-10.aspx + https://www.eurooptic.com/Badger-Ordnance-COMM-Aimpoint-T1-T2-Tan-Micro-Sight-Mount-200-11.aspx

- If you got the Radian with the Vortex on a Scalarworks mount, get the Arisaka offset mount instead (being careful to get the correct baseplate) -- $140: https://milspecretail.com/product/firearm-accessories/sights-optics/optic-mounts/arisaka-defense-offset-optic-mount/

10. Here's where you have to figure out part of how you want to set up your plate carrier. It's fairly personalized -- what I like on mine may be very different than you want on yours. At a minimum, I'd do the Kangaroo panel, side pouches and then get a radio pocket, some 5.56 pouches (which strap onto the lasercuts all over the carrier), and maybe a few utility pouches. This gives you the ability to add carrying capacity as needed, but don't do so unnecessarily -- you should try to go as slick as possible. All told, you're looking at around $700 here.

- LBT G3 Plate Carrier -- $355: https://lbtinc.com/collections/g3

- Kangaroo panel -- $70: https://lbtinc.com/collections/g3/products/6904b

- Side pouches -- $70: https://lbtinc.com/collections/g3/products/2739qk

- 5.56 speed draw pouches (only need one or two of these) -- $37: https://lbtinc.com/collections/apchs/products/6146

- 5.56 pouches -- $45: https://lbtinc.com/collections/rifle-magazine-pouches/products/9010?variant=16404313079851

- Radio pocket -- $55: https://lbtinc.com/collections/radio-pouches/products/6015d

- Utility pouches: https://lbtinc.com/collections/utlp

11. Hesco 4800 Large 10x12 shooter cut plates x2 -- $2,600: https://sabersolutions.com/collections/hesco-armor/products/hesco-4800-level-iv-standalone?variant=21332281720912

12. Mayflower UW chest rig (it's not uncommon to want a chest rig for times you don't want to lug armor around but also want some sort of fighting capability in the even something unexpected comes up; typically used when moving long distances on foot and trying to stay lightweight) -- $203: https://www.velsyst.com/products/uw-chest-rig-gen-iv

13. A fighting belt is different from a regular belt in that it has molle webbing to attach pouches. It should have a holster, at least one pistol mag pouch, and first aid kit; the rest is personal preference -- I like to run two AR mags on my belt, there are some people who run four, some who run none. More info on setting up a belt here: https://youtu.be/__78Ve2dIUo General upside of a belt is that it puts weight on your hips instead of shoulders (where a plate carrier or chest rig places it). I'm linking the QLS system with the holster below because it's very handy when in vehicles to be able to take the holster off the belt. All told, looking at about $5-600

- Ronin Tactics molle belt -- $200: https://www.ronintactics.com/store/p80/Task_Force_%28TF%29_Belt.html

- Safariland 7377 pistol holster with QLS system: https://safariland.com/products/model-7377-7ts-als-concealment-belt-loop-holster-34850 + https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MF48AQ/ + https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002868Q46/ + https://www.trex-arms.com/store/New-Thigh-Strap/ + https://store.otdefense.com/products/als-nub-mod-black

- Pistol mag pouches: https://esstac.com/shop-all/magazine-pouches/pistols/

- Blue force micro trauma kit (basic supplies, molle mount -- don't use to treat things when you have access to the big solatac kit) -- $130: https://www.blueforcegear.com/medical-items.html

- AR mag pouches: https://esstac.com/5-56/

14. ESEE 4 knife -- $115: https://www.bladehq.com/item--ESEE-RAT-Cutlery-RC4--4378

- you can carry this on the plate carrier or on your belt, but you should have it on one of those. I like belt.

15. Peltor Sport Tac 500 electronic hearing protection -- $120: https://www.amazon.com/Peltor-Electronic-Protector-Bluetooth-Protection/dp/B06W56YRWJ

- If you want any situational awareness at all after 10 rounds, you'll want these

16. EXO Mountain Pack (3200) -- $650: https://exomtngear.com/collections/packs/products/k3-3200-pack-system?variant=19549187145795

- Excellent backpacking pack -- you should store/carry the survival kit (#19) in this

17. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit (add ibuprofen and tylenol to this) -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

18. Five CATourniquets (add 3 to main med kit, keep two on you in pockets/pouches when shit kicks off) -- $150: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

19. Survival kit. This is a combination of things you should throw together; I realize you're probably not a survivalist, but if shit happens and you've got to move, you'll want this stuff. Keep this in the waterproof backpack.

- You need water filtration; get a lifestraw flex -- $60: https://www.lifestraw.com/collections/frontpage

- Fire kit. This is just a gallon ziplock, which you should fill a quarter of the way with petroleum jelly, and then fill to the halfway mark with cotton balls. Close the ziplock and knead the vaseline into the cotton balls until they're thoroughly saturated; add more vaseline as needed. Add a 5 pack of bic lighters and this is set.

- 200' of paracord -- $25: https://www.amazon.com/PARACORD-PLANET-Mil-Spec-Commercial-Paracord/dp/B00ACL4VJI/

- 20° sleeping bag (if in colder climate, you may want to get a better one than this; I can recommend a few) -- $130: https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/eco-trail-synthetic-20-nf0a3s76

- Sleeping pad -- $45: https://www.rei.com/product/829826/therm-a-rest-z-lite-sol-sleeping-pad

- Poncho/shelter -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/USGI-Industries-Military-Emergency-Survival/dp/B083YNW98M/

- Water container, either a canteen or bladder; I like this one; MSR 4 liter water reservoir -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Dromedary-Bag-Water-Reservoir/dp/B01MXWBDLV?th=1

- Food; you can get MREs, or get 5 pounds of beef jerky and some of these bars -- just make sure you have some non-perishable food ready to go in case you have to hit the road: https://www.sosproducts.com/SOS-food-bar-p/350237.htm

- Solar phone charger -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/26800mAh-Riapow-Wireless-Portable-Flashlight/dp/B088WG2VXT/

- Garmin GPS -- $330: https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-GPSMAP-High-Sensitivity-GLONASS-Receiver/dp/B00HWL9BQ4/

- Headlamp -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/GearLight-Headlamp-Flashlight-S500-PACK/dp/B07QGRWZNB/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=headlamp&qid=1603254078&sr=8-5

20. Baofeng + antenna -- $110: https://www.amazon.com/BTECH-UV-5X3-Tri-Band-Amateur-Earpiece/dp/B01J2W4JUI/ + https://www.amazon.com/Nagoya-NA-320A-2M-1-25M-70CM-144-220-440Mhz-BTECH/dp/B01K10B9XK/ + https://www.amazon.com/BTECH-PC03-Genuine-Programming-Cable/dp/B00HUB0ONK/

21. Five to ten gas cans (depending on your vehicle/space -- you need space for the rest of this list too) -- $125-250: https://www.amazon.com/GarageBOSS-GB351-Gallon-Press-Pour/dp/B07GBBG5LZ/

- this extends your driving range significantly; when things start getting bad you can fill them and place them in your trunk

22. Salomon Quest boots -- $230: https://www.rei.com/product/127770/salomon-quest-4d-3-gtx-hiking-boots-mens

- Best boots I've ever worn, and if things go to shit you need footwear that can take a beating in the event you're outside

23. Shooting gloves -- $45: https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/ironsight-sensor-gloves-266842?cat=136,26,6

- shooting fast gets the gun hot and gloves help a lot

24. Ruger 10/22 (use for plinking, small game) -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-1022-carbine-blackgray-semi-automatic-rifle-22-long-rifle/p/1538005

- Leapers 1-8x28 scope -- $150: https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-1-8x28-30mm-close-quarters-multi-range-combat-riflescope.html

- Talley mount rings (high) -- $60: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/ruger-rimfire-10-22-steel-rings-for-dovetail-setup/

- extended 25 round mags -- $45: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/2-pack-ruger-bx-25-10-22-22lr-25-round-magazine.html

- 2,000 rounds .22 -- $60 x4 -- https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-remington-thunderbolt-40-grain-lead-hv-bulk-pack-ammo-tb22b

25. DD5V4 in .308 -- $2,600: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881820326

- This is an excellent longer range gun; you could snipe or hunt well with this.

- Kestrel ballistics calculator -- $700: https://shop.opticsplanet.com/kestrel-elite-weather-meter-with-applied-ballistics.html

- Vortex Viper 6-24x scope -- $950: https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-viper-hst-6-24x50-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=969

- V8 Atlas bipod with quick detach -- $280: https://www.larue.com/products/atlas-bipod-bt10-nc-and-lt271-qd-mount-combo/

- Rangefinder binoculars -- $1,700: https://www.opticsplanet.com/german-precision-optics-gpo-rangefinding-binocular-10x50-8-3-000-yard-compact.html

- 750 rounds 7.62 (use up to 250rds of this to zero optics and create a dope chart) $150 x3 -- https://lohmanarms.com/product/fiocchi-308-winchester-147gr-fmj-ammo-250ct-bulk-pack/

26. AGM NVG-40 Dual Tube Gen3 NVG -- $6,700: https://www.nightvision4less.com/agm-nvg-40-3aw2-dual-tube-nv-goggle-gen-3-auto-gated-white-phosphor-level-2.aspx

- To start with, you don't NEED night vision. You could ignore this entirely and probably not know the difference. But if you want the biggest advantage there is, this is it. There are several different types of night vision devices; suffice it to say that this is one of the best, and while you could spend about double this on NV stuff, your marginal utility diminishes pretty sharply. There are two different vision types: green phosphor (which is the stereotypical dark lime green), and white phosphor; here's a video illustrating the difference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zns4sqYTVDg&ab_channel=NITEWALKER

- if you do get NV, that gives you another option: infrared. NV lets you see infrared, meaning that you can use IR lasers and illuminators to see very well in the dark and shoot very well in the dark -- and ofc IR is invisible to the naked eye. This is what US SOF uses to rayp sand niggers in the middle east. If you do get NVG, mount this to your rifle and zero it: L3/EOTech IR laser and illuminator -- $1,400: https://tnvc.com/shop/l3-insight-atpial-c-class1-ir-laser/

TOTAL: ~$30,000 (~$21,000 without night vision).

I again highly recommend getting training with this stuff. This list will give you top quality equipment, such that you will be more than set equipment-wise for anything that comes your way. However, without training from knowledgeable people in how to use them, you're still in a bad position when the nigs come knocking. I recommend the following training companies, in order of preference:

- GBRS Group (the very best on this list -- entirely former DEVGRU SEALs -- but idk if they're taking civilian clients rn)

- Fieldcraft Survival

- Tony Cowden / Capable Inc.

- Haley Strategic

- Ronin Tactics (stupidly kitschy at times, but one of the best tactical instructors I've ever seen)

- Aztec Training Services

- Core Vision Training

- Esoteric / Yousef Sansour

- Frank Proctor Shooting

- Kagwerks

- Viking Tactics / Kyle Lamb

- Vigilance Elite

- Pat McNamara

- Direct Action Resource Center (DARC)

- Shaw Shooting

- Combat Shooting and Tactics (CSAT) / Paul Howe

- Baer Solutions

- Lead Faucet Tactical

- Trident Concepts

- Thunder Ranch

- Gunsite Academy

- Sage Dynamics

- EAG Tactical

Let me know if you have any questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154439)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:16 AM
Author: Topaz haunted graveyard

$500

no guns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154443)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:24 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

- Canik TP9SA -- find one of these new in box (NIB) (important because it comes with an extra mag and a holster) on gunbroker, and don't pay more than $400: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882013070

- 9mm 200 rounds -- $25 x4: https://www.ammoshoponline.com/product/9mm-115-grain-fmj-norma-range-training-qty-50-10-box-limit/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154457)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:26 AM
Author: Topaz haunted graveyard

ty

not a Glock, tho?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154460)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:28 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

Out of your price range right now, otherwise yes

Glocks come with a SPS trigger and you should always replace them with a superior aftermarket trigger if you want to enjoy the gun or shoot particularly well with it; even before that (which adds another $140), Glocks run about $600 (now inflated to $700). The Canik has one of the best factory triggers in a handgun, and it's cheap as FUCK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154463)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:32 AM
Author: Topaz haunted graveyard

i c

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154468)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:41 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

Np

Any questions, lmk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154479)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:39 AM
Author: ruby patrolman



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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:41 AM
Author: Maize Jew

$1,000, blue belt in karate from 8th grade, kitchen knives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41155862)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:04 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

1. Canik TP9SA -- find one of these new in box (NIB) (important because it comes with an extra mag and a holster) on gunbroker, and don't pay more than $400: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882013070

- 200 rounds 9mm -- $100: https://www.ammoshoponline.com/product/9mm-115-grain-fmj-norma-range-training-qty-50-10-box-limit/

2. Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-1022-carbine-blackgray-semi-automatic-rifle-22-long-rifle/p/1538005

- Leapers 1-8x28 scope -- $150: https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-1-8x28-30mm-close-quarters-multi-range-combat-riflescope.html

- Talley mount rings (high) -- $60: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/ruger-rimfire-10-22-steel-rings-for-dovetail-setup/

- Extended 25 round mags -- $45: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/2-pack-ruger-bx-25-10-22-22lr-25-round-magazine.html

- 500 rounds .22 -- $60 -- https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-remington-thunderbolt-40-grain-lead-hv-bulk-pack-ammo-tb22b

TOTAL: $1,045

maybe you use that karate and a kitchen knife to go get $45 more for your budget

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156077)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:35 PM
Author: Maize Jew

I like the rifle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156322)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:54 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

It's one of the single best guns a person can own. Versatile, with extended mags it becomes a somewhat more viable defense weapon, very light with light ammo so it's great if on foot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156475)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 12:59 PM
Author: ocher stirring puppy dilemma

$3K. I have several handguns, but sold my rifles and shotgun. What do I need?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156524)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:07 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

How urban are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156594)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:09 PM
Author: ocher stirring puppy dilemma

Just outside urban area in suburbs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156607)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:33 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Alright. Survival gear is because you may have to get the fuck out of there. Alternatively, you could spend that cash on:

• Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-1022-carbine-blackgray-semi-automatic-rifle-22-long-rifle/p/1538005

- Leapers 1-8x28 scope -- $150: https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-1-8x28-30mm-close-quarters-multi-range-combat-riflescope.html

- Talley mount rings (high) -- $60: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/ruger-rimfire-10-22-steel-rings-for-dovetail-setup/

- Extended 25 round mags -- $45: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/2-pack-ruger-bx-25-10-22-22lr-25-round-magazine.html

- 500 rounds .22 -- $60 -- https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-remington-thunderbolt-40-grain-lead-hv-bulk-pack-ammo-tb22b

I recommend the survival gear though -- if you're in the city and can't leave, you could end up ultrafucked. Now then:

1. Any of the following for under $900 -- but prioritize ones with a longer handguard/rail like the first or second link:

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881895664

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881972354

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881634660

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881758403

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880064072

3. Sling for rifle -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071W3P55P/

- sling mount points -- $10: https://www.amazon.com/3-Pack-Swivel-System-Tactical-Swivels/dp/B08JCN5XDY/

4. 7 mags for rifle -- $91: https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/magpul-pmag-30-ar-m4-gen-m2-moe-magazine

5. Red dot for rifle -- $140: https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Holosun-Paralow-HS403B-Red-Dot-Sight-with-Push-But-p/holo-hs403b.htm

6. Streamlight light/mount/button for rifle -- $170: https://www.patriotoutfitters.com/streamlight-pro-tac-rail-mount-hl-x-weapon-light

7. Forward grip -- $15-30: https://bravocompanyusa.com/vertical-grips-hand-stops/

- Whether to use a vertical foregrip, or an angled grip -- called a "KAG" on that page -- or nothing at all is an issue of personal preference, but in my experience they make it remarkably easier to reduce muzzle rise. Also realize that the short vertical grips are meant to be held like this: https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Daniel-Defense-Vertical-Grip-2-1-768x512.jpg -- rather than like a handle.

8. Viper tactical chest rig -- $60: https://www.military1st.com/bvchrigsopscoy-viper-special-ops-chest-rig-coyote.html

9. Radio -- $60: https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Dual-Band-Handheld-Complete-Programming/dp/B08GPS9MF9/

10. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit (add ibuprofen and tylenol to this) -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

- Five CATourniquets (add 3 to main med kit, keep two on you in pockets/pouches when shit kicks off) -- $150: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

11. Backpack -- $60: https://www.amazon.com/NEVO-RHINO-Internal-Backpack-Ultralight/dp/B07S8MVT2J/

- micro survival kit -- $80: https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/collections/accessories/products/fieldcraft-survival-minimalist-survival-kit

- lifestraw Go -- $40 -- https://www.lifestraw.com/products/lifestraw-go

- Fire kit. This is just a gallon ziplock, which you should fill a quarter of the way with petroleum jelly, and then fill to the halfway mark with cotton balls. Close the ziplock and knead the vaseline into the cotton balls until they're thoroughly saturated; add more vaseline as needed. Add a 5 pack of bic lighters and this is set.

- 200' of paracord -- $25: https://www.amazon.com/PARACORD-PLANET-Mil-Spec-Commercial-Paracord/dp/B00ACL4VJI/

- 20° sleeping bag (if in colder climate, you may want to get a better one than this; I can recommend a few) -- $130: https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/eco-trail-synthetic-20-nf0a3s76

- Sleeping pad -- $45: https://www.rei.com/product/829826/therm-a-rest-z-lite-sol-sleeping-pad

- Poncho/shelter -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/USGI-Industries-Military-Emergency-Survival/dp/B083YNW98M/

- Water container, either a canteen or bladder; I like this one; MSR 4 liter water reservoir -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Dromedary-Bag-Water-Reservoir/dp/B01MXWBDLV?th=1

- Food; you can get MREs, or get 5 pounds of beef jerky and some of these bars -- just make sure you have some non-perishable food ready to go in case you have to hit the road: https://www.sosproducts.com/SOS-food-bar-p/350237.htm

- Solar phone charger -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/26800mAh-Riapow-Wireless-Portable-Flashlight/dp/B088WG2VXT/

- Garmin GPS -- $250: https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-GPSMAP-High-Sensitivity-GLONASS-Receiver/dp/B00HWL9BQ4/

- Headlamp -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/GearLight-Headlamp-Flashlight-S500-PACK/dp/B07QGRWZNB/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=headlamp&qid=1603254078&sr=8-5

12. Ammo:

- 500 rounds 5.56 -- $350: https://www.finfeatherfur.com/federal-5-56x45mm-50-grain-semi-jacketed-frangible-500-rounds/

TOTAL: $2,960

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156798)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:40 PM
Author: ocher stirring puppy dilemma

Holy fucking shit, brother. Thank you. I start buying today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156863)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 2:01 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

yeah, np! any questions, make a thread with "Hegemon" in it or hit me up here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157035)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:13 PM
Author: vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter

Suburban.

Own: Mini-14 in 556 (own because I'm in a DEEP BLUE state and it looks less scary - previously owned a Colt AR Carbine), Colt 1911 in 45. Civilian gun ownership in my region is about 0%

Budget: Anything under $30K, but I feel like I'm covered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156642)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:41 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Alright. I don't like Minis much because they're less modular -- it's harder to put attachments on them. You should consider this to apply to you: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154439 -- with the exception that I'd get a 9mm as well -- either an Agency Arms Glock or a Wilson Combat P320C. The reason for this is the same as why you should get an AR in addition to the Mini: attachments. It's much easier to do things like clear rooms when you have a light on your pistol. 1911 also suffers from poor mag capacity. At the very least, I'd get some extended mags for the Mini, and a chest rig, even if you don't want to do the rest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156876)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:57 PM
Author: vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter

People love to hate on them, with some validity (it's not as refined as the AR). I like mine (as a former LE6920 owner). I have the newer heavy barrel version with a stock flat top pic rail, with mid-level reflex site and 3x flip-away magnif on it. I'm 2-3 MoA with it. I'm no better with a HBAR competition. I can hit steel to 300. Probably 5000 rounds through it. No failures, except two f2f with one box of cheap Russian .223 (it has a known weak hammer spring, so get light strikes on eastern block primers). Only thing I'd add is a flashlight. They make a mount to put it below the barrel or off to side. Never got around to buying one. If SHTF, I'd likely take a saw to the stock and shorten pull length an inch or two.

Biggest bullshit is the fact extended mags are like $50 bucks, so I only have a handful.

My next buy was already going to be a 9mm. Never got around to it.

Would probably buy a cheap 22 too.

EDIT: Thoughts on AR pistols? Not worth risking right now with incoming Biden admin and recent NFA takebacks on braces?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157006)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 2:05 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

I don't hate them -- they're plenty fine to shoot. I don't like it as a tactical tool though. Definitely get the flashlight mount.

Absolutely get the 9 -- do you have any experience with Glock, Sig, CZ, or S&W?

Cheap 22:

- Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-1022-carbine-blackgray-semi-automatic-rifle-22-long-rifle/p/1538005

- Leapers 1-8x28 scope -- $150: https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-1-8x28-30mm-close-quarters-multi-range-combat-riflescope.html

- Talley mount rings (high) -- $60: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/ruger-rimfire-10-22-steel-rings-for-dovetail-setup/

- Extended 25 round mags -- $45: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/2-pack-ruger-bx-25-10-22-22lr-25-round-magazine.html

- 500 rounds .22 -- $60 -- https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-remington-thunderbolt-40-grain-lead-hv-bulk-pack-ammo-tb22b

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157056)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 2:09 PM
Author: vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter

180! No real experience with any of the above. I've never been a pistolMO. I bought a 45 on a whim a decade ago and have taken it to range maybe 5 times ever.

Also, see edit above. Would be interested in your thoughts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157088)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 2:47 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

OK. I ask because Glocks have a sharper grip angle that is harder to get a proper grip on and takes more reps to get good with. Sig P320s fit most hands -- if you're buying without having held it in your hand (which I don't recommend, but which is sometimes unavoidable), I'd bet on a P320 or on a S&W M&P 2.0. If you do get a Glock, spend more and get an Agency Arms Glock -- they're as good as it gets.

I'd go for it, but I also probably envision a different level of compliance if they're banned than do you. I think AR pistols make great truck guns (short length makes them more maneuverable getting in and out, as well as more concealable). Someone who already has a quality AR can go cheaper on the pistol; in your case I'd get a nicer one since it's really gonna be your do-it-all gun if you have to pick. Triarc makes phenomenal ones. IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, get it in an 11.5" barrel; 5.56 has exponentially better ballistics from 11.5+ than it does from anything any shorter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157374)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 4:03 PM
Author: vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter

Thanks for pistol recs. I'll check them out.

Thoughts on pistol AR vs. a compliant pinned and welded 14.5 inch barrel? I was about to by an AR pistol a few years back. Glad I didn't. I have no interest in fucking with the NFA. I live in a GUNSRBAD area of a GUNSRBAD state (which for historical reasons doesn't have many gun laws). Not worth it to me. Both state and federal prosecutors would fuck me if I played that game. Is pistol that much better than a 14.5?

Also, any thoughts on Colt ARs these days? That's what I had when I owned an AR. Obviously a lot more players making stuff these days, but instead of researching the exact models I might go with a midrange reliable choice where I already know the rifle.

Also, I'm in theory willing to spend a lot, but in practice probably more likely to spend 5-10k. What would you do in my place with 5K? Assume a tactical AR, a poly 9mm and body armor? That the best spent money?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41158019)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 4:13 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Pin and weld!! Wayyyy more capability out of a 14.5 -- my favorite gun I own is a 14.5. A pistol is NOT better than a 14.5 at all unless you have a very specific set of needs for a short barrel (e.g. you often get in and out of vehicles with your AR and you do so under fire/in a hurry). A good 14.5 with a good optic is a 500yd gun all day; a pistol usually drops that to 300-400ish, assuming it's a quality 11.5.

I don't like them nearly as much as I like other manufacturers -- paying more for rollmark and less for features. literally name what you're willing to drop on an AR and I'll drop you links lol.

Yes, that's exactly what.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41158112)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:08 AM
Author: concupiscible dingle berry set

I like mine too. It's fun to shoot and gets attention for being different at the range.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161302)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 6:50 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

If this is legal for you, grab it: https://shopruger.com/Ruger-Mini-14-A-TM-Folding-Stock/productinfo/13006/

looks easy to put on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41174984)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:18 PM
Author: Avocado Curious Fortuitous Meteor

BCM RECCE 16 with a Vortex Spitfire 3x Prism scope

Ruger American .308 with a NightForce ATACR 5-25x56mm scope

Sig Sauer P226 in .40

Sig Sauer P365 in 9mm

Ruger LCR .357 (I shoot .38spc+p out of it)

Remington 870 with alternating .00 buckshot and slugs

Cheap crossbow

Roughly 7,000 rounds of ammo

My price range is up to $10,000. If it helps, I live in a southern city with a large number of basketball Americans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156676)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 2:41 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

I know where you are, lol -- at least I'm fairly sure I remember. I also happen to recall from fucking forever ago on tinychat that you're overweight -- getting in shape is one of the best things you can do in this arena because all the gear in the world won't do shit for you if you get gassed on a set of stairs. I won't belabor the point but I can give you any advice you need in that area.

Guns are solid. Gonna rec some attachments to the guns, ignore if you already have.

1. Sling, light and foregrip for the BCM:

- Ferro Slingster -- $55: https://www.skdtac.com/Ferro-Concepts-The-Slingster-Updated-p/fer.113.htm

- Light -- $430: https://www.opticsplanet.com/surefire-scout-light-500-lumens-white-light.html

- Grip options: https://bravocompanyusa.com/vertical-grips-hand-stops/

- Also consider getting a Vortex Razor 1-10 ($2,000-2,300) or an ATACR 1-8 ($2,800) for the BCM.

2. light for the P226 -- $270: https://www.opticsplanet.com/surefire-x300-ultra-led-handgun-long-gun-weaponlight-500-lumens-w-universal-moun.html

3. Bipod for Ruger American -- $45: https://www.amazon.com/UTG-High-pro-Shooters-Bipod-Rubber/dp/B001BR4VME

4. Plate carrier. Here's where you have to figure out part of how you want to set up your plate carrier. It's fairly personalized -- what I like on mine may be very different than you want on yours. At a minimum, I'd do the Kangaroo panel, side pouches and then get a radio pocket, some 5.56 pouches (which strap onto the lasercuts all over the carrier), and maybe a few utility pouches. This gives you the ability to add carrying capacity as needed, but don't do so unnecessarily -- you should try to go as slick as possible. All told, you're looking at around $700 here.

- LBT G3 Plate Carrier -- $355: https://lbtinc.com/collections/g3

- Kangaroo panel -- $70: https://lbtinc.com/collections/g3/products/6904b

- Side pouches -- $70: https://lbtinc.com/collections/g3/products/2739qk

- 5.56 speed draw pouches (only need one or two of these) -- $37: https://lbtinc.com/collections/apchs/products/6146

- 5.56 pouches -- $45: https://lbtinc.com/collections/rifle-magazine-pouches/products/9010?variant=16404313079851

- Radio pocket -- $55: https://lbtinc.com/collections/radio-pouches/products/6015d

- Utility pouches: https://lbtinc.com/collections/utlp

5. Hesco 4800 Large 10x12 shooter cut plates x2 -- $2,600: https://sabersolutions.com/collections/hesco-armor/products/hesco-4800-level-iv-standalone?variant=21332281720912

6. A fighting belt is different from a regular belt in that it has molle webbing to attach pouches. It should have a holster, at least one pistol mag pouch, and first aid kit; the rest is personal preference -- I like to run two AR mags on my belt, there are some people who run four, some who run none. More info on setting up a belt here: https://youtu.be/__78Ve2dIUo General upside of a belt is that it puts weight on your hips instead of shoulders (where a plate carrier or chest rig places it). I'm linking the QLS system with the holster below because it's very handy when in vehicles to be able to take the holster off the belt. All told, looking at about $5-600

- Ronin Tactics molle belt -- $200: https://www.ronintactics.com/store/p80/Task_Force_%28TF%29_Belt.html

- Safariland 7377 pistol holster with QLS system: https://safariland.com/products/model-7377-7ts-als-concealment-belt-loop-holster-34850 + https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MF48AQ/ + https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002868Q46/ + https://www.trex-arms.com/store/New-Thigh-Strap/ + https://store.otdefense.com/products/als-nub-mod-black

- Pistol mag pouches: https://esstac.com/shop-all/magazine-pouches/pistols/

- Blue force micro trauma kit (basic supplies, molle mount -- don't use to treat things when you have access to the big solatac kit) -- $130: https://www.blueforcegear.com/medical-items.html

- AR mag pouches: https://esstac.com/5-56/

7. Mayflower UW chest rig (it's not uncommon to want a chest rig for times you don't want to lug armor around but also want some sort of fighting capability in the even something unexpected comes up; typically used when moving long distances on foot and trying to stay lightweight) -- $203: https://www.velsyst.com/products/uw-chest-rig-gen-iv

8. ESEE 4 knife -- $115: https://www.bladehq.com/item--ESEE-RAT-Cutlery-RC4--4378

- you can carry this on the plate carrier or on your belt, but you should have it on one of those. I like belt.

9. Peltor Sport Tac 500 electronic hearing protection -- $120: https://www.amazon.com/Peltor-Electronic-Protector-Bluetooth-Protection/dp/B06W56YRWJ

10. EXO Mountain Pack (3200) -- $650: https://exomtngear.com/collections/packs/products/k3-3200-pack-system?variant=19549187145795

- Excellent backpacking pack -- you should store/carry the survival kit (#13) in this

11. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit (add ibuprofen and tylenol to this) -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

12. Five CATourniquets (add 3 to main med kit, keep two on you in pockets/pouches when shit kicks off) -- $150: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

13. Survival kit. This is a combination of things you should throw together; I realize you're probably not a survivalist, but if shit happens and you've got to move, you'll want this stuff. Keep this in the waterproof backpack.

- micro survival kit -- $80: https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/collections/accessories/products/fieldcraft-survival-minimalist-survival-kit

- jetboil -- $120: https://jetboil.johnsonoutdoors.com/stoves-systems/flash-cooking-system?id=566

- You need water filtration; get a lifestraw flex -- $60: https://www.lifestraw.com/collections/frontpage

- Fire kit. This is just a gallon ziplock, which you should fill a quarter of the way with petroleum jelly, and then fill to the halfway mark with cotton balls. Close the ziplock and knead the vaseline into the cotton balls until they're thoroughly saturated; add more vaseline as needed. Add a 5 pack of bic lighters and this is set.

- 200' of paracord -- $25: https://www.amazon.com/PARACORD-PLANET-Mil-Spec-Commercial-Paracord/dp/B00ACL4VJI/

- 20° sleeping bag (should be fine for your area) -- $130: https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/eco-trail-synthetic-20-nf0a3s76

- Sleeping pad -- $45: https://www.rei.com/product/829826/therm-a-rest-z-lite-sol-sleeping-pad

- Poncho/shelter -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/USGI-Industries-Military-Emergency-Survival/dp/B083YNW98M/

- Water container, either a canteen or bladder; I like this one; MSR 4 liter water reservoir -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Dromedary-Bag-Water-Reservoir/dp/B01MXWBDLV?th=1

- Food; you can get MREs, or get 5 pounds of beef jerky and some of these bars -- just make sure you have some non-perishable food ready to go in case you have to hit the road: https://www.sosproducts.com/SOS-food-bar-p/350237.htm

- Solar phone charger -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/26800mAh-Riapow-Wireless-Portable-Flashlight/dp/B088WG2VXT/

- Garmin GPS -- $250: https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-GPSMAP-High-Sensitivity-GLONASS-Receiver/dp/B00HWL9BQ4/

- Headlamp -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/GearLight-Headlamp-Flashlight-S500-PACK/dp/B07QGRWZNB/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=headlamp&qid=1603254078&sr=8-5

14. Baofeng + antenna -- $110: https://www.amazon.com/BTECH-UV-5X3-Tri-Band-Amateur-Earpiece/dp/B01J2W4JUI/ + https://www.amazon.com/Nagoya-NA-320A-2M-1-25M-70CM-144-220-440Mhz-BTECH/dp/B01K10B9XK/ + https://www.amazon.com/BTECH-PC03-Genuine-Programming-Cable/dp/B00HUB0ONK/

15. Five to ten gas cans (depending on your vehicle/space -- you need space for the rest of this list too) -- $125-250: https://www.amazon.com/GarageBOSS-GB351-Gallon-Press-Pour/dp/B07GBBG5LZ/

- this extends your driving range significantly; when things start getting bad you can fill them and place them in your trunk

16. Salomon Quest boots -- $230: https://www.rei.com/product/127770/salomon-quest-4d-3-gtx-hiking-boots-mens

- Best boots I've ever worn, and if things go to shit you need footwear that can take a beating in the event you're outside

17. Shooting gloves -- $45: https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/ironsight-sensor-gloves-266842?cat=136,26,6

- shooting fast gets the gun hot and gloves help a lot

18. Ruger 10/22 (use for plinking, small game) -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-1022-carbine-blackgray-semi-automatic-rifle-22-long-rifle/p/1538005

- Leapers 1-8x28 scope -- $150: https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-1-8x28-30mm-close-quarters-multi-range-combat-riflescope.html

- Talley mount rings (high) -- $60: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/ruger-rimfire-10-22-steel-rings-for-dovetail-setup/

- extended 25 round mags -- $45: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/2-pack-ruger-bx-25-10-22-22lr-25-round-magazine.html

- 1,000 rounds .22 -- $60 x2 -- https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-remington-thunderbolt-40-grain-lead-hv-bulk-pack-ammo-tb22b

TOTAL: ~$9,000 (if you put an ATACR on the BCM)

any questions, lmk!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157326)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 10:09 AM
Author: Avocado Curious Fortuitous Meteor

Holy shit, 180! I’m going to print this out. Thank you.

I’ve also been working on getting in shape. I have no issue climbing ladders or anything else. I’ve also dropped a bunch of weight and am lookin GC good again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41171437)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 6:37 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

180! Congrats on the weight loss! Keep it up, get jacked!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41174925)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:25 PM
Author: Brass insanely creepy jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156730)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 2:51 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

1. Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-1022-carbine-blackgray-semi-automatic-rifle-22-long-rifle/p/1538005

- Leapers 1-8x28 scope -- $150: https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-1-8x28-30mm-close-quarters-multi-range-combat-riflescope.html

- Talley mount rings (high) -- $60: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/ruger-rimfire-10-22-steel-rings-for-dovetail-setup/

- Four extended 25 round mags -- $45 x2: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/2-pack-ruger-bx-25-10-22-22lr-25-round-magazine.html

- 1,000 rounds .22 -- $60 x2-- https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-remington-thunderbolt-40-grain-lead-hv-bulk-pack-ammo-tb22b

TOTAL: $650

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157399)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:10 AM
Author: Brass insanely creepy jap

I'm going to be the king of the .22.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161311)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:11 AM
Author: concupiscible dingle berry set

The choice of actual assassins for 70 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161314)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 6:39 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41174941)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:31 PM
Author: Big lodge

$5 million budget. Potato farm in southern Idaho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156774)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:19 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

lol

- Two of everything on this list: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154439 but replace the 10/22 scope with a 1-8 ATACR, replace the DD5V3 scope with this: https://vortexoptics.com/riflescopes/razor-hd-amg/razor-hd-amg-6-24x-50.html?vortex_reticle=240 and replace the NVG with 20 sets of: https://www.eotechinc.com/ground-panoramic-night-vision-goggle-gpnvg-white-phosphor

- https://www.eurooptic.com/Barrett-MK22-Rifle-Kit-308-Win-300-Norma-Mag-338-Norma-Mag-18804.aspx in .338 Norma with https://www.leupold.com/scopes/rifle-scopes/mark-8-3-5-25x56mm-m5b2-illuminated-front-focal

- https://www.dillonprecision.com/cp-2000-case-processing-machine_8_1_26778.html

- one of these https://www.dillonprecision.com/super-1050-reloader_8_1_23877.html?pkg_cust=1 in every caliber you own

then start a drone airforce:

- https://www.crutchfield.com/S-frNZcmFHRjY/p_333PF72812/Parrot-ANAFI-Thermal.html

- https://globalgpssystems.com/skycruiser-a22-plus/

- https://ozrobotics.com/shop/saxon-viper-m14-monitor/?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157612)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:14 AM
Author: Brass insanely creepy jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161330)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:18 AM
Author: Big lodge

The UAV is a good idea.

Do you think I should also get something like this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOMIZED-MILITARY-VEHICLE-BUILT-ON-A-6X6-CAIMAN-CHASSIS/122773527344

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161344)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 12:50 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

I mean, if you want it, but that wouldn't be nearly as high on my list of priorities. Vehicles like that are slow, immediate targets, easy to disable/blow up. And I don't think it really grants you a terribly great advantage. Drones, on the other hand, will never be seen by your enemy If you do it right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41172603)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 7:03 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Another option is getting a rotary wing license and getting a small helicopter: https://www.controller.com/listings/search?ScopeCategoryIDs=13&Category=5%7C7&Country=178&sort=2

You'd want something that could carry people, obviously.

an MD-500e is your best option -- basically the same as an MH-6 little bird

https://www.controller.com/listings/search?ScopeCategoryIDs=13&Category=5%7C7&Country=178&sort=2

If you've got a team of guys, this is a great way to expand your capabilities; suddenly vehicle interdiction is in your mission set

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41175040)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 1:39 PM
Author: Cracking sapphire cuckoldry

have a 12 gauge shotgun with limited amounts of buckshot and slugs, that's it

suburbs

small kids

unlimited budget

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41156854)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:27 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Unlimited? Alright, see: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41154439

If you really want to spend more, then swap out the NVG for either:

- $12,000: https://www.nightvision4less.com/dtnvg-31-l3-omni-viii-unfilmed-white-phosphor-aviation-grade-night-vision-goggle-gen-3-agm-hs.aspx

- $50,000: https://willsoptics.com/product/l-3-gpnvg-18-anvis/

Then get into reloading:

- https://www.dillonprecision.com/cp-2000-case-processing-machine_8_1_26778.html

- one of these https://www.dillonprecision.com/super-1050-reloader_8_1_23877.html?pkg_cust=1 in every caliber you own

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157696)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 2:03 PM
Author: Zombie-like sooty rehab voyeur

May bump later for personal recommendations but just want to say thanks for ur quality poasting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157047)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:27 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



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Date: October 21st, 2020 2:50 PM
Author: Sepia flirting background story hall

Zastava M91 7.62x54r

Zastava ZPAP 7.62x39

M&P Sport II

DSA FN FAL

KUSA KP9 (9mm ak pistol)

Tokarev

$3000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157392)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:33 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Do you have optics on any of them? Does the KP9 have a brace?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157753)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 5:24 PM
Author: Sepia flirting background story hall

Yes on the Zastavas and AR. No optics on KP9 or Fal. The KP9 is braced.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41158740)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:29 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Ok.

1. KP9 recs:

- Holosun 403 dot -- $140: https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Holosun-Paralow-HS403B-Red-Dot-Sight-with-Push-But-p/holo-hs403b.htm

- If you have the mlok rail option, put this light on -- $170: https://www.patriotoutfitters.com/streamlight-pro-tac-rail-mount-hl-x-weapon-light

2. DSA FAL recs:

- Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8 -- $500: https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-strike-eagle-1-8x24-ar-bdc3.html

- If you have the mlok or picatinny rail options -- there are like 50 different DSA FALs and I neglected to ask which you have -- put this light on -- $170: https://www.patriotoutfitters.com/streamlight-pro-tac-rail-mount-hl-x-weapon-light

- I'd stick a grip on there if able, given the size of the FAL handguard; pick one that suits the way you run your gun: https://bravocompanyusa.com/vertical-grips-hand-stops/

- if this is in 16" or under and has mounting rail, this is a great do-it-all main gun

3. Plate Carrier. Obviously carrier setup has plenty of personal preference involved; in my opinion, you should have at least 4 mags, the ability to throw some things in pockets (e.g. notepad, phone, batteries, multitool, maps, GPS, any grenades, cordage if you'll need fast access, zip ties, etc.), and potentially pistol pocket/holster, pistol mags, radio, etc. I'm unsure if the below-linked pouches fit AK mags, but there are reviews saying they do. Alternatively, if you want to grab a chest rig as well (or if you aren't going to run plates, just get this), grab an AVS chest rig (linked below) and attach it to the JPC; no separate pouches, less hassle, but less customizable. Max you're looking at here is around $700, and could easily be as low as $400 if you're going minimalist.

- Crye JPC 2.0 -- $250: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/blc06602lg0_jpc-20

- Crye AVS Chest rig -- $400: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/avscr102000_avs-detachable-chest-rig

- longer mag pouch -- $54: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps06802000_152bottle-pouch

- shorter mag pouch -- $52: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps06702000_556762mbitr-pouch

- Frag/utility pouch -- $45: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps01302000_frag-pouch

4. Hesco Level 3 Shooter Cut 10x12 plates -- $405 x2: https://store.atarmor.com/Hesco_3800_Level_III_plate_p/hs-3800.htm

5. Peltor Sport Tac 500 electronic hearing protection (if you don't already have good electronic earpro) -- $120: https://www.amazon.com/Peltor-Electronic-Protector-Bluetooth-Protection/dp/B06W56YRWJ

6. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit (add ibuprofen and tylenol to this) -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

7. Five CATourniquets (add 3 to main med kit, keep two on you in pockets/pouches when shit kicks off) -- $150: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

If, at this point, your guns had rails and you bought all attachments, and you went all out on the plate carrier, you are now out of money and your total is $2,960. If, however, you didn't have space for any of the non-optic attachments, we still have $370 to play with, plus ($700-n) where n = amount you spent on the plate carrier. So I'll give you a few more options.

8. Blue force micro trauma kit (basic supplies, molle mount -- don't use to treat things when you have access to the big solatac kit) -- $130: https://www.blueforcegear.com/medical-items.html

9. Range finder (to use with the M91) -- $170: https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/bushnell-prime-1300-rangefinder

10. Fieldcraft micro survival kit -- $80: https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/collections/accessories/products/fieldcraft-survival-minimalist-survival-kit

11. Five to ten gas cans (depending on your vehicle/space) -- $125-250: https://www.amazon.com/GarageBOSS-GB351-Gallon-Press-Pour/dp/B07GBBG5LZ/

You are now almost certainly out of money, as that leaves you with up to $630 in additional gear. Lmk if any questions or need substitutions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41160739)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 4:20 PM
Author: Sepia flirting background story hall

180 ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41165620)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:02 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle swollen quadroon

Nothing except good outdoor skills from backpacking

Urban area that is safe

$1.2k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157482)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:40 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

1. Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-1022-carbine-blackgray-semi-automatic-rifle-22-long-rifle/p/1538005

- Leapers 1-8x28 scope -- $150: https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-1-8x28-30mm-close-quarters-multi-range-combat-riflescope.html

- Talley mount rings (high) -- $60: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/ruger-rimfire-10-22-steel-rings-for-dovetail-setup/

- Four extended 25 round mags -- $45 x2: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/2-pack-ruger-bx-25-10-22-22lr-25-round-magazine.html

- 1,000 rounds .22 -- $60 x2 -- https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-remington-thunderbolt-40-grain-lead-hv-bulk-pack-ammo-tb22b

2. Canik TP9SA -- find one of these new in box (NIB) (important because it comes with an extra mag and a holster) on gunbroker, and don't pay more than $400: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882013070

- 9mm 200 rounds -- $25 x4: https://www.ammoshoponline.com/product/9mm-115-grain-fmj-norma-range-training-qty-50-10-box-limit/

TOTAL: $1,210

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157806)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:03 PM
Author: mind-boggling location becky

$2000

Sig Sauer P320

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157487)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:49 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

1. Any of the following for under $900 -- but prioritize ones with a longer handguard/rail like the first or second link:

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881895664

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881972354

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881634660

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881758403

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880064072

2. Sling for rifle -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071W3P55P/

- sling mount points -- $10: https://www.amazon.com/3-Pack-Swivel-System-Tactical-Swivels/dp/B08JCN5XDY/

3. Mags/ammo:

- 5 mags for rifle -- $65: https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/magpul-pmag-30-ar-m4-gen-m2-moe-magazine

- 350 rounds 5.56 -- $200: https://greencountryammo.com/556-x-45mm-55gr-TP-Lead-Free-Frangible-Ammunition-Non-Toxic-FREE-AMMO-CAN-ON-SALE-LIMITED-TIME-Reman-Brass-Bulk-Pack-300-Rounds-_p_156.html

4. Red dot for rifle -- $140: https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Holosun-Paralow-HS403B-Red-Dot-Sight-with-Push-But-p/holo-hs403b.htm

5. Streamlight light/mount/button for rifle -- $170: https://www.patriotoutfitters.com/streamlight-pro-tac-rail-mount-hl-x-weapon-light

6. Forward grip -- $15-30: https://bravocompanyusa.com/vertical-grips-hand-stops/

- Whether to use a vertical foregrip, or an angled grip -- called a "KAG" on that page -- or nothing at all is an issue of personal preference, but in my experience they make it remarkably easier to reduce muzzle rise. Also realize that the short vertical grips are meant to be held like this: https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Daniel-Defense-Vertical-Grip-2-1-768x512.jpg -- rather than like a handle.

7. Viper tactical chest rig -- $60: https://www.military1st.com/bvchrigsopscoy-viper-special-ops-chest-rig-coyote.html

8. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit (add ibuprofen and tylenol to this) -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

- Three CATourniquets (add one to main med kit, keep two on you in pockets/pouches when shit kicks off) -- $90: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

TOTAL: $1,950

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157903)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:50 PM
Author: mind-boggling location becky

You're the man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157908)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 3:56 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

np, any questions, lmk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41157967)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 5:29 PM
Author: Appetizing Violet Step-uncle's House Blood Rage

LOL at responding to obeezy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41158770)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 5:54 PM
Author: mind-boggling location becky

You're obsessed with me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41158913)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 7:59 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

I'll respond to any who poast for a rec, brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41159611)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 4:57 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41158493)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 8:02 PM
Author: shimmering diverse parlor boltzmann

Suburban

Own one gun: Springfield Hellcat

Willing to spend $2000-3000 on additional firearm/s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41159638)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:05 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Alright. If you mean that you are interested only in firearms recs and not gear, then in lieu of the gear I'm about to recommend, skip to the bottom of the list for additional guns. I'm assuming you already have a CCW holster for the Springfield; if not, get that between items 8 and 9.

1. Any of the following for under $900 -- but prioritize ones with a longer handguard/rail like the first or second link:

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881895664

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881972354

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881634660

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881758403

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880064072

2. Sling for rifle -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071W3P55P/

- sling mount points -- $10: https://www.amazon.com/3-Pack-Swivel-System-Tactical-Swivels/dp/B08JCN5XDY/

3. Mags and ammo:

- 5 mags for rifle -- $65: https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/magpul-pmag-30-ar-m4-gen-m2-moe-magazine

- 800 rounds 5.56 -- $450: http://www.sgogunsandammo.com/product-p/wm855200.htm

4. Red dot for rifle -- $140: https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Holosun-Paralow-HS403B-Red-Dot-Sight-with-Push-But-p/holo-hs403b.htm

5. Streamlight light/mount/button for rifle -- $170: https://www.patriotoutfitters.com/streamlight-pro-tac-rail-mount-hl-x-weapon-light

6. Viper tactical chest rig -- $60: https://www.military1st.com/bvchrigsopscoy-viper-special-ops-chest-rig-coyote.html

7. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

8. Three CATourniquets (add one to main med kit, keep two on you in pockets/pouches when shit kicks off) -- $90: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

You are now at $2,140. Wanna keep going?

9. Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-1022-carbine-blackgray-semi-automatic-rifle-22-long-rifle/p/1538005

- Leapers 1-8x28 scope -- $150: https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-1-8x28-30mm-close-quarters-multi-range-combat-riflescope.html

- Talley mount rings (high) -- $60: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/ruger-rimfire-10-22-steel-rings-for-dovetail-setup/

- extended 25 round mags -- $45: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/2-pack-ruger-bx-25-10-22-22lr-25-round-magazine.html

- 2,000 rounds .22 -- $60 x4 -- https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-remington-thunderbolt-40-grain-lead-hv-bulk-pack-ammo-tb22b

10. Five gas cans -- $125: https://www.amazon.com/GarageBOSS-GB351-Gallon-Press-Pour/dp/B07GBBG5LZ/

You are now up to $2,955.

If you want only gun recs, here's another of those:

11. Thompson/Center bolt action in .308 or Creedmoor -- $550: https://www.tcarms.com/firearms/bolt-action-rifles/venture/venture-ii

- Vortex Diamondback 6-24x scope for the bolt gun -- $500: https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-diamondback-tactical-6-24x50-ffp-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=22

- Harris type bipod for bolt gun -- $45: https://www.amazon.com/UTG-High-pro-Shooters-Bipod-Rubber/dp/B001BR4VME

Any questions, lmk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41160934)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 8:10 PM
Author: Self-absorbed brilliant pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41159704)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 8:50 PM
Author: vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter

Why do you need this much prep weaponry? In Civil War II isn't what you really need the ability to get to safer territory? If you're actually going to fight, wouldn't the armories (military, guard, police) be opened to combatants soon after conflicts started?

The US military still has 5-10 million small arms in mothballs, going back to M14s (some sources say there are still even some commissioned M1 Carbines in dimly lit corners).

There are 1-2 civilian guns per civilian. In Civil war II, those get spread out too.

Guns wont be hard to come by.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41160015)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:04 PM
Author: Sepia flirting background story hall

there are several layers of "ifs" and "hopes" in this analysis

easier to just buy guns. Which, beyond being useful in a SHTF situation, are fun and cool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41160110)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 9:07 PM
Author: vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter

I'm not saying don't buy a gun. I have a few.

But I think a Poverty Pony boomstick is enough that the next $20,000 doesn't change much survival or outcome for vast majority of people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41160131)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:30 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

I think there are certainly some people who would buy the gear and then never use or train with it; I'm going off the assumption that people will get good with what they buy. I've recommended training several times in this thread.

Furthermore, you're paying a markup on guns today anyway; if there were any $650 rifles that were selling at $650, I'd have recommended more of those for the poormos. Problem is, you're paying $900 today if you want an AR; may as well spend for quality that'll last you 10 years of hard use.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41160754)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:38 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41160800)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 10:36 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

I mean, you'll see that I recommend rudimentary survival gear, as well as increased fuel capacity so people can gtfo. The hope is that when people buy this shit, they'll learn how to use it; I fully agree that an idiot with $20,000 in gear is still an idiot. But I also know that if I spent even $500 on something, much less thousands, that I'd spend plenty of time getting good with it. And if you give someone enough equipment, eventually their survival chance begins to rise even if they are relatively incompetent.

Those guns in warehouses aren't going to do anybody any good until they can be accessed -- which may never happen. Why would the armories be opened? Are you assuming that every combatant is gonna be uniformed/official? The last 60 years of urban and guerilla warfare seem to disagree. What about if you just wanna stay home and also be safe? If the nigs show up on your front porch in the next 6 months, you're going to need something in your hands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41160792)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:24 PM
Author: vengeful adulterous faggot firefighter

9999 out of 10000, a LaRue vs. an Anderson the roll stamp will not matter. Buy it because it's awesome, not because it's a game changer.

tactics, team and training matter exponentially more.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161048)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:30 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Having shot both, ljl at that comparison. You're right that having a gun at all is the most important part; I've shot three different Andersons that immediately come to mind (multiple times with two of them), and EVERY SINGLE fucking time I've had a failure of some sort. Fuck that. An Aero or Sig is a much better comparison, and there's a reason I've been recommending them for anyone on a real budget.

You're right though that the cool factor makes this more fun.

And yes, all of those things matter much more; I still want reliable equipment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161079)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 12:09 AM
Author: Snowy twisted theatre brethren

Do you remember what happened in Louisiana post Hurricane Katrina? People went buckwild, looting, stealing, and killing. Those with guns survived and were fine. Everyone else? Not so much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41773804)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 12:10 AM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41773808)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:36 PM
Author: Arrogant Pozpig Newt

incredible thread

bookmarked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161122)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:55 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161249)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:38 PM
Author: olive galvanic roast beef sex offender

Really my concern would be gtfo of dodge as quickly as possible. Assume roads and highways are a shitshow and blocked or dangerous. Gas stations not really working.

Not sure I will spend $ on armor but will grab some more practical shit like big bags, extra 5 gal fuel cans, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161136)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:55 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Don't ignore the med gear. Can give plenty of recs for the other stuff:

- Best ruck pack I've ever owned -- $650: https://exomtngear.com/collections/packs/products/k3-3200-pack-system?variant=19549187145795

- Excellent duffel bag -- $200: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011524P66/?tag=20improb-20

- Decent budget backpack -- $40-80 (size dependent): https://www.amazon.com/NEVO-RHINO-Internal-Backpack-Ultralight/dp/B07S8MVT2J/

- Gas cans already linked several times

- Portable air compressor -- $210: https://www.amazon.com/VIAIR-40043-400P-Portable-Compressor/dp/B000X9AXR8/

- Tire patch kit (get two) -- $100: https://www.extremeoutback.com/product/the-ultimate-puncture-repair-kit/

- Rooftop tents -- $1,000-10,000: https://tepui.com/collections/tents / https://atoverland.com/pages/at-truck-toppers

- Decked toolbox if you're in a pickup; this makes it a shit ton easier to haul a survival loadout, especially if you have a bed topper; you retain lateral bed space while storing a bunch of stuff in it -- ~$1,300: https://decked.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161247)



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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:45 PM
Author: titillating hilarious elastic band

Suburban

357 magnum, 30 rounds

2 Kevlar helmets

Lots of food, antibiotics, chlorine, iodide, iodine, etc.

willing to spend $500

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161184)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:03 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

1. Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-1022-carbine-blackgray-semi-automatic-rifle-22-long-rifle/p/1538005

- Leapers 1-8x28 scope -- $150: https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-1-8x28-30mm-close-quarters-multi-range-combat-riflescope.html

- Talley mount rings (high) -- $60: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/ruger-rimfire-10-22-steel-rings-for-dovetail-setup/

- Extended 25 round mags -- $45: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/2-pack-ruger-bx-25-10-22-22lr-25-round-magazine.html

- 500 rounds .22 -- $60 -- https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-remington-thunderbolt-40-grain-lead-hv-bulk-pack-ammo-tb22b

TOTAL: $545. If that's a hard budget, drop the extended mags. They give you a lot more capability though; I'd keep em.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161291)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:09 AM
Author: titillating hilarious elastic band

Ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161305)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:00 AM
Author: concupiscible dingle berry set

I live in a rural/exurb area on 5 acres, among some farmland and forest, 50 miles outside of a major metro. There are no meaningful local gun laws. I own a Ruger Mini 14 with a good 1-4x scope and several 10 and 30 round magazines, Browning Citori 20 gauge, Beretta Silver Pigeon 12 gauge and Glock 19 with an aftermarket LED light addition.

I have small children who get into everything. I do not have any tactical gear, food, or survival gear.

I am a very good shot with my shotguns and do registered shoots in skeet and sporting clays. I shoot 2-4x per month all year. I have not shot my rifle or pistol in several years.

I have an agreement with my shitlib wife: I can have as many guns in the house as I want as long as I do not keep ammo in the house. I have two boxes of twenty rounds of .223 Rem in a safe location offsite (for example, my office as a solo practitioner).

What should I improve for $1,000?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161271)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 2:07 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

- (If your children are the reason you have no tactical gear, ignore this.) Viper tactical chest rig -- $60: https://www.military1st.com/bvchrigsopscoy-viper-special-ops-chest-rig-coyote.html

- Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

- 800 rounds of 5.56 -- $450: http://www.sgogunsandammo.com/product-p/wm855200.htm

- 200 rounds of 9mm -- $125: https://dl-ammo.com/product/patriot-defense-9mm-115-grain-full-metal-jacket-250-rounds-reman/

TOTAL: $905.

Honestly, given your living situation and budget, you don't need many more guns or a lot of bugout gear, you need to re-familiarize with what you have. If you already had an AR and ammo, I'd honestly tell you to just spend the money on taking a carbine course with some qualified people* -- the problem is you don't have an AR. If you are a strong shot at skeet, it shouldn't be terribly hard to become serviceable with an AR. Do a lot of dryfire work if your living space allows, and shoot (on your land, if able); reserve half of your ammo. You can spend 10% of your remaining training budget (so 40 rounds carbine, 10 rounds pistol) fucking around/getting comfortable; the rest should be spent on drills. Here's some info on how you should structure your training: https://autbellumgroup.com/how-to-get-better-at-shooting-on-a-low-budget/

DRYFIRE DRILLS: https://www.itstactical.com/warcom/firearms/train-like-a-s-e-a-l-safe-effective-ammoless-learning/

CARBINE DRILLS:

- https://web.archive.org/web/20161010211755/https://progunfighter.com/low-round-count-rifle-drills/ (barricade building instructions for 9 hole drill are here: https://www.vikingtactics.com/v/vspfiles/pdf/vtacBarricade.pdf)

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTqQjvlPs4&ab_channel=TacticalRifleman

- https://tacticalhyve.com/shooting-drills-the-ultimate-list/

- https://gatdaily.com/the-top-5-low-round-count-drills/ (main ones here are the Eleanor drill and iHack; the rest are a little high round count)

PISTOL DRILLS: https://web.archive.org/web/20161004071245/http://progunfighter.com/low-round-count-pistol-drills/

I cannot imagine marrying a shitlib; God help you man.

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*A list of good training companies, in order of my preference:

- GBRS Group (the very best on this list -- entirely former DEVGRU SEALs -- but idk if they're taking civilian clients rn)

- Fieldcraft Survival

- Tony Cowden / Capable Inc.

- Haley Strategic

- Ronin Tactics (stupidly kitschy at times, but one of the best tactical instructors I've ever seen)

- Aztec Training Services

- Core Vision Training

- Esoteric / Yousef Sansour

- Frank Proctor Shooting

- Kagwerks

- Viking Tactics / Kyle Lamb

- Vigilance Elite

- Pat McNamara

- Direct Action Resource Center (DARC)

- Shaw Shooting

- Combat Shooting and Tactics (CSAT) / Paul Howe

- Baer Solutions

- Lead Faucet Tactical

- Trident Concepts

- Thunder Ranch

- Gunsite Academy

- Sage Dynamics

- EAG Tactical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161764)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:11 AM
Author: odious round eye sweet tailpipe

7k

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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:38 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

How urban? Family or single?

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Date: October 22nd, 2020 4:41 PM
Author: odious round eye sweet tailpipe

moms basement outside major city

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Date: October 22nd, 2020 6:22 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

1. Any of the following for under $1,900:

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881575342

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882191262

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882186997

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881890800

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882042029

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882199657

3. Ferro Slingster -- $55: https://www.skdtac.com/Ferro-Concepts-The-Slingster-Updated-p/fer.113.htm

- sling mount points -- $10: https://www.amazon.com/3-Pack-Swivel-System-Tactical-Swivels/dp/B08JCN5XDY/

4. Mags/ammo:

- 10 mags for rifle -- $130: https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/magpul-pmag-30-ar-m4-gen-m2-moe-magazine

- 1,200 rounds 5.56 -- $690: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2090862857?pid=898842&utm_medium=shopping&utm_source=ammo-seek&utm_campaign=898842

5. Rifle scope -- $480 ($400 with a free mount if you order soon and use discount code on the page!): https://atibal-optics.com/products/xp8-mirage-1-8x24-ffp

- get the mount that comes with the scope

6. Offset red dot for rifle -- $230: https://www.primaryarms.com/holosun-paralow-hs503g-red-dot-sight-acss-reticle

- Arisaka offset mount -- $130: https://milspecretail.com/product/firearm-accessories/sights-optics/optic-mounts/arisaka-defense-offset-optic-mount/

- BE SURE TO GET THE RIGHT BASE PLATE; correct one is the one for the Aimpoint at standard height

7. Streamlight light/mount/button for rifle -- $170: https://www.patriotoutfitters.com/streamlight-pro-tac-rail-mount-hl-x-weapon-light

8. Forward grip -- $15-30: https://bravocompanyusa.com/vertical-grips-hand-stops/

- Whether to use a vertical foregrip, or an angled grip -- called a "KAG" on that page -- or nothing at all is an issue of personal preference, but in my experience they make it remarkably easier to reduce muzzle rise. Also realize that the short vertical grips are meant to be held like this: https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Daniel-Defense-Vertical-Grip-2-1-768x512.jpg -- rather than like a handle.

9. CZ P10C (compact) -- $600 or less: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882171529 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882175332 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881871365 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882171529 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882058054 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882147920

- Two 17 round pistol magazines -- $38 x2: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021435739

- Light -- $125: https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-69260-Weapon-Tactical-Flashlight/dp/B00B8Q31UQ

- CCW holster -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/Fierce-Defender-Holster-Winter-Warrior/dp/B075F666BR

- 250 rounds 9mm -- $125: https://dl-ammo.com/product/patriot-defense-9mm-115-grain-full-metal-jacket-250-rounds-reman/

10. Plate Carrier. Obviously carrier setup has plenty of personal preference involved; in my opinion, you should have at least 4 mags, the ability to throw some things in pockets (e.g. notepad, phone, batteries, multitool, maps, GPS, any grenades, cordage if you'll need fast access, zip ties, etc.), and potentially pistol pocket/holster, pistol mags, radio, etc. I'm unsure if the below-linked pouches fit AK mags, but there are reviews saying they do. Alternatively, if you want to grab a chest rig as well (or if you aren't going to run plates, just get this), grab an AVS chest rig (linked below) and attach it to the JPC; no separate pouches, less hassle, but less customizable. Max you're looking at here is around $700, and could easily be as low as $400 if you're going minimalist.

- Crye JPC 2.0 -- $250: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/blc06602lg0_jpc-20

- Crye AVS Chest rig -- $400: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/avscr102000_avs-detachable-chest-rig

- longer mag pouch -- $54: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps06802000_152bottle-pouch

- shorter mag pouch -- $52: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps06702000_556762mbitr-pouch

- Frag/utility pouch -- $45: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps01302000_frag-pouch

11. Hesco Level 3 Shooter Cut 10x12 plates -- $405 x2: https://store.atarmor.com/Hesco_3800_Level_III_plate_p/hs-3800.htm

12. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit (add ibuprofen and tylenol to this) -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

- Three CATourniquets (add one to main med kit, keep two on you in pockets/pouches when shit kicks off) -- $90: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

13. Peltor Sport Tac 500 electronic hearing protection (if you don't already have good electronic earpro) -- $120: https://www.amazon.com/Peltor-Electronic-Protector-Bluetooth-Protection/dp/B06W56YRWJ

14. Radio -- $60: https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Dual-Band-Handheld-Complete-Programming/dp/B08GPS9MF9/

15. Backpack -- $60: https://www.amazon.com/NEVO-RHINO-Internal-Backpack-Ultralight/dp/B07S8MVT2J/

- micro survival kit -- $80: https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/collections/accessories/products/fieldcraft-survival-minimalist-survival-kit

- lifestraw Go -- $40 -- https://www.lifestraw.com/products/lifestraw-go

- Fire kit. This is just a gallon ziplock, which you should fill a quarter of the way with petroleum jelly, and then fill to the halfway mark with cotton balls. Close the ziplock and knead the vaseline into the cotton balls until they're thoroughly saturated; add more vaseline as needed. Add a 5 pack of bic lighters and this is set.

- 200' of paracord -- $25: https://www.amazon.com/PARACORD-PLANET-Mil-Spec-Commercial-Paracord/dp/B00ACL4VJI/

- 20° sleeping bag (if in colder climate, you may want to get a better one than this; I can recommend a few) -- $130: https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/eco-trail-synthetic-20-nf0a3s76

- Sleeping pad -- $45: https://www.rei.com/product/829826/therm-a-rest-z-lite-sol-sleeping-pad

- Poncho/shelter -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/USGI-Industries-Military-Emergency-Survival/dp/B083YNW98M/

- Water container, either a canteen or bladder; I like this one; MSR 4 liter water reservoir -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Dromedary-Bag-Water-Reservoir/dp/B01MXWBDLV?th=1

- Food; you can get MREs, or get 5 pounds of beef jerky and some of these bars -- just make sure you have some non-perishable food ready to go in case you have to hit the road: https://www.sosproducts.com/SOS-food-bar-p/350237.htm

- Solar phone charger -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/26800mAh-Riapow-Wireless-Portable-Flashlight/dp/B088WG2VXT/

- Headlamp -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/GearLight-Headlamp-Flashlight-S500-PACK/dp/B07QGRWZNB/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=headlamp&qid=1603254078&sr=8-5

You're now at a total of $7,386; however, that assumes you spent $600 on the pistol (I saw several for $520), $1,900 on the rifle (I saw some recently sold for $1,750), and maxed out plate carrier expense at $700; if you in fact did so, then skip everything from item 15 except the backpack, the micro kit, the lifestraw, and the poncho.

lmk if any questions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41166569)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 12:21 AM
Author: Bull headed base gaping

Exurbs

Ruger 10/22 with a handful of 25 round mags and a sling

S&W 642

Probably about 500 rounds of .22 ammo and 100 rounds of .38 +p ammo

Good hiking backpack

Assortment of folding knives and Bowie knives

Because I live in the far flung exurbs in a fairly big house with a wife/kids, I always sort of planned for the "bug in" rather than "bug out" route and I have like 6 months worth of food/water/candles here. Figured I would have immediate family (who all have guns/ammo) come to my house to bunker/fortify together if the world fell apart.

$1k budget

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41161364)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 2:09 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Bug in is absolutely correct. You may need to be able to go get the others though.

What you rally need is an AR, a dot/light/grip/sling, mags and ammo, a chest rig, AND some med gear. $1,000 isn't enough for all that. That said, I don't know what kind of weapons your family would be bringing; if one of them is a gun nut with 15 ARs, you don't need guns, you need med gear. So I'm going to give you two options, and you pick based on what you think more necessary for your situation.

OPTION A:

1. Get one of the following ARs.

- Do not pay more than $600 for these: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882135685 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882183530 / https://gunbroker.com/item/881944432

- Do not pay more than $700 for these: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882144163 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879281168 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882056158 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882148037 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881310701 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882026681 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882016450 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881902976 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882055771 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881676149 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881769275 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879280970

This is going to require some luck, because you need to get a good deal on one of these at auction. If you can't get an AR within those price parameters, simply move on to option B.

2. Rifle accessories

- Red dot -- $140: https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Holosun-Paralow-HS403B-Red-Dot-Sight-with-Push-But-p/holo-hs403b.htm

- Sling for rifle -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071W3P55P/

- sling mount points -- $10: https://www.amazon.com/3-Pack-Swivel-System-Tactical-Swivels/dp/B08JCN5XDY/

- 5 mags for rifle -- $65: https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/magpul-pmag-30-ar-m4-gen-m2-moe-magazine

- Streamlight light/mount/button for rifle -- $170: https://www.patriotoutfitters.com/streamlight-pro-tac-rail-mount-hl-x-weapon-light

If you got the rifle for $600 or less, you're now out of money; if you got it for $700, replace the light with item 6. You also still need ammo for the rifle.

6. Viper tactical chest rig -- $60: https://www.military1st.com/bvchrigsopscoy-viper-special-ops-chest-rig-coyote.html

OPTION B:

1. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

- CATourniquets (add three to main med kit, give one to every adult to keep on their person at all times when shit kicks off) -- $150-300: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

2. Five to ten gas cans -- $125-250: https://www.amazon.com/GarageBOSS-GB351-Gallon-Press-Pour/dp/B07GBBG5LZ/

- (fill and keep in trunk/backseat to extend driving range)

3. Radio set -- $130: https://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-Walkie-Talkie-Earpieces-Programming/dp/B00E4FO2TW/

If you bought ten tourniquets, that's $950. If your relatives are far away, have a plan for getting them to your house, and make sure they know they're coming to your place lol. And make sure they bring all of their guns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41164544)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 2:36 PM
Author: Bull headed base gaping

180. TY.

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Date: October 22nd, 2020 2:19 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 2:34 PM
Author: motley nibblets hospital

Suburbs, kinda dense area. own ~30 guns mostly older military bolt actions and semi autos (SKS, Garand, enfield, mosins, etc). Couple sporting shotguns which can be swapped with shorter barrels as well.

Budget: idk like $5k if I need anything else. I think NVG or a transferable machine gun are probably the only things I'm missing, but those are big money investments with very limited use cases

Primary 1 - 10.3" AR build w/ silencer. Foregrip, stream light strobe, bushnell red dot (lmao) Keep 10 mags loaded with Hornady TAP or similar barrier blind LE ammo. Also have a 16" 6.8 SPC upper for this that wears a light 2-7x vortex scope and long throw green light.

Secondary 1 - CZ P09, inforce APL, suppressor sights, threaded barrel, loaded with 3 mags of 147 +P HST

PDW: CZ Scorpion Evo II SBR with silencer, binary trigger, sig romeo red dot, magpul VFG.

Armor - Hesco 4410 in a mid-range plate carrier, slick but has mag pouches integrated in the cummerbund. Wanted to be able to wear it under a jacket or sweater.

Hydration bladder/mini backpack with a knife, IFAK, poncho, sewing kit, fire starters, cordage, etc. This is my hunting kit, I'm usually tinkering with everything inside based on the season you'd see bug spray, sun screen, hand warmers, space blanket, etc.

Merrill Zion boots, got them this season for hunting, I like the trail runner comfort with a little more ankle support.

Full set of sitka camo, for basically all seasons.

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Date: October 22nd, 2020 5:17 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

You're basically set, but you know that. I'll give you some basic suggestions but leave the specifics up to you

- better dot on the AR (MRO or Holosun is fine)

- more med gear (the Solatac multi-cas kit I keep poasting really is the best deal I've found)

- NODs (less narrow use case than an auto sear; tremendous advantage but expensive)

- better equip your vehicle to go offroad. The following assumes you have a truck; if not, do what you can in your SUV:

• auxiliary fuel tank or spare gas cans

• portable air compressor

• grill guard/heavy duty aftermarket bumper

• skid plate

• fully equipped toolbox with battery powered tools (e.g. cordless impact drill with socket set, basic handtools, heavy duty bolt cutters and chainsaw (60cc / 20"+ bar), etc.)

• solar panel (like https://www.goalzero.com/shop/portable-solar-panels/nomad-100-solar-panel/ + https://www.goalzero.com/shop/last-chance-gear/goal-zero-yeti-400-portable-power-station/ or similar) to charge aforementioned tools without burning fuel/truck battery

- if you're planning to bug in rather than bug out, then have a water filtration plan

- Garmin with topo maps

You're by far the best set person so far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41166130)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 2:49 PM
Author: Thirsty comical organic girlfriend forum

Let's say I have $5k I want to spend.

I already have a 9mm, a very capable and reliable offroad vehicle, and intermediate camping gear and abilities. I live in a city of 1.5M, but not downtown. I am only an hour away from the forest. 4-5 hours to remote forest I could probably live in.

I'm guessing I should buy a hunting rifle (and learn to hunt), maybe a tear drop, a portable space heater, and a bunch of Jerry cans. I plan on doing to nomadic road warrior thing if the forest doesn't work out.

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Date: October 22nd, 2020 7:11 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

I wouldn't go with a hunting rifle first; you'll have zero CQC capability with a 9mm and a bolt action against somebody kitted up as I've suggested above.

I'd also be careful about assuming you can just live off the land; most game within a 100 mile radius of every major city is going to be gone in a month if there's a food shortage.

If you wanna get a teardrop, that's gonna run you $5,000 by itself -- assuming you get an old one without many options. I'm going to assume your $5k budget doesn't include the camper. Additionally, if you're considering a camper, I'm assuming you have a pickup. Give these bed toppers a look: https://atoverland.com/pages/at-summit-truck-topper -- not as many amenities as a camper, but you also don't have to worry about taking a trailer off road. Here's what I'd do with $5,000 if you wanna do the road warrior thing.

1. Any of the following for under $900 -- but prioritize ones with a longer handguard/rail like the first or second link:

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881895664

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881972354

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881634660

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881758403

- https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880064072

2. Sling for rifle -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071W3P55P/

- sling mount points -- $10: https://www.amazon.com/3-Pack-Swivel-System-Tactical-Swivels/dp/B08JCN5XDY/

3. Mags/ammo

- 5 mags for rifle -- $65: https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/magpul-pmag-30-ar-m4-gen-m2-moe-magazine

- 600 rounds 5.56 -- $200 x2: https://greencountryammo.com/556-x-45mm-55gr-TP-Lead-Free-Frangible-Ammunition-Non-Toxic-FREE-AMMO-CAN-ON-SALE-LIMITED-TIME-Reman-Brass-Bulk-Pack-300-Rounds-_p_156.html

5. Red dot for rifle -- $140: https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Holosun-Paralow-HS403B-Red-Dot-Sight-with-Push-But-p/holo-hs403b.htm

6. Streamlight light/mount/button for rifle -- $170: https://www.patriotoutfitters.com/streamlight-pro-tac-rail-mount-hl-x-weapon-light

7. Forward grip -- $15-30: https://bravocompanyusa.com/vertical-grips-hand-stops/

- Whether to use a vertical foregrip, or an angled grip -- called a "KAG" on that page -- or nothing at all is an issue of personal preference, but in my experience they make it remarkably easier to reduce muzzle rise. Also realize that the short vertical grips are meant to be held like this: https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Daniel-Defense-Vertical-Grip-2-1-768x512.jpg -- rather than like a handle.

8. Viper tactical chest rig -- $60: https://www.military1st.com/bvchrigsopscoy-viper-special-ops-chest-rig-coyote.html

9. Five to ten gas cans -- $125-250: https://www.amazon.com/GarageBOSS-GB351-Gallon-Press-Pour/dp/B07GBBG5LZ/

10. CCW holster for your 9mm -- ~$70

11. Thompson/Center bolt action in .308 -- $550: https://www.tcarms.com/firearms/bolt-action-rifles/venture/venture-ii

- Vortex Diamondback 6-24x scope for the bolt gun -- $500: https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-diamondback-tactical-6-24x50-ffp-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=22

- Talley 30mm scope mounts (high) -- $180: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/fixed-scope-ring-system/

- Harris type bipod for bolt gun -- $45: https://www.amazon.com/UTG-High-pro-Shooters-Bipod-Rubber/dp/B001BR4VME

- 500 rounds 7.62 -- $350: https://www.trueshotgunclub.com/product/prvi-partizan-ppu-7-62x51-145-grain-fmjbt-500-rounds

12. Portable air compressor -- $210: https://www.amazon.com/VIAIR-40043-400P-Portable-Compressor/dp/B000X9AXR8/

- Tire patch kit (get two) -- $100: https://www.extremeoutback.com/product/the-ultimate-puncture-repair-kit/

13. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit (add ibuprofen and tylenol to this) -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

- Three CATourniquets (add one to main med kit, keep two on you in pockets/pouches when shit kicks off) -- $90: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

14. ESEE 4 knife -- $115: https://www.bladehq.com/item--ESEE-RAT-Cutlery-RC4--4378

15. Peltor Sport Tac 500 electronic hearing protection -- $120: https://www.amazon.com/Peltor-Electronic-Protector-Bluetooth-Protection/dp/B06W56YRWJ

16. Vehicle radio unit -- $200: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XK83VRV?tag=amateurradiowiki-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

TOTAL: $5,040

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41166866)



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Date: November 3rd, 2020 12:30 PM
Author: Thirsty comical organic girlfriend forum

Thanks, bro. I bought all of this, and it just arrived in the mail today. My neighbors are giving me dirty looks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41252955)



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Date: November 3rd, 2020 12:35 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

180!! What rifle did you go with?

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Date: October 22nd, 2020 5:42 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Some of the rifles I've linked on gunbroker have since sold; search gunbroker for those models (easiest to do by simply plugging in the manufacturer and nothing else, then sorting by price high to low, and then clicking through pages and looking for the models I recommended) and simply don't pay more than I suggested

Some of the ammo has sold out as well; search https://ammoseek.com/ and buy accordingly (being sure to limit your search to brass case only -- steel will tear up your gun.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41166287)



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 7:44 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



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Date: October 22nd, 2020 11:25 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 12:34 AM
Author: ruby patrolman



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 11:10 AM
Author: talented principal's office

I have about 25 guns at any time, mostly old WWII battle rifles. I do have a nice AR15 and AR10. I also have 5 handguns. I have been shooting since I was a kid. You give good advice.

I disagree with a few things. You are too hung up on Gucci ARs. Your recommendations are sometimes 8 times the price of an entry level gun that will work. In a civil war, you want to have 4 S&W-15 or 7 PSAs compared to one Gucci boutique rifle with a $900 carbon rail and a hair trigger. It's more useful to equip your wife, your son or your similarly thinking neighbor than it is to have a less gritty trigger or shave a pound or two. Some of the fire control groups you've suggested could buy you a whole new AR-15 and 100 rounds of brass FMJ.

I think you're too into the AR-15. It's the best solution for most people, but often not for people in urban areas or control states. This board has a lot of NY, CA and NJ people. I'd have recommended more pistol caliber carbines for new shooters and shooters in ban states. I love PCC for people who won't be able to get much practice in. Ask a new shooter to shoot to 25 yards with a 9mm Glock. Then ask them to shoot with a 9mm Carbine. You'll go from 2-3 foot groups to 6 inch groups. New shooters also muzzle sweep themselves and others with pistols, but do so less with longguns. I don't think a pistol should be anyone's first weapon. I also wouldn't have dismissed the Mini as quickly. It's a far better gun for some featureless states, because it has a real stock instead of some fin, pistol grip block or NY bar system. Given the height of the assault rifle 15 action and recoil buffer, it is almost impossible to turn an AR-15 from a pistol gripped rifle into something it's not, a rifle with a customary stock without a thumbhole. I agree nobody should buy one instead of a normal AR.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/california-legal-ar-15/ is impossible to hold. I've tried.

I would recommend more nightvision. In Afghanstan, when the Taliban got ahold of some cheap nightvision in 2014 (Russia), our casualty toll went through the roof for a few months.

Your suggestions on handguns are good. Your recommendations to stay at 5.56 and lower are also good. No need for long distance weapons, but that always comes up in discussions like these.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41171785)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 1:44 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

I've elsewhere defended the selection of Gucci ARs, but will do so at more length here.

A) Prices for entry level guns are radically inflated right now, such that polymer lower garbage is selling for $800 on gunbroker; I wouldn't pay $300 for it. This is caused both by general fear and the fact that most retailers are out and there is a shortage. I see no point in somebody dumping even a little bit of money into something that will fail them when they need it -- I made that mistake when I was first getting into guns in my teens. If $700 rifles were selling for $700, I'd be recommending a lot more of those. I agree that having 5 decent guns is better than one gucci gun; the problem is that I don't think that's a possible option right now.

B) I have numerous times recommended cheaper ARs; ctrl-F this thread for "$900" and you'll see that.

C) People here can afford it. Every person to whom I've recommended gucci guns has been someone with a budget that can include them.

Now to the rest. I recommend the AR over other platforms like the Mini because of its modularity; the attachments I've recommended all make it very easy to shoot, even for beginners, and a flashlight is an immense tactical advantage. I agree that the Mini is much better than most or all alternatives where an AR isn't an option. However, I think an AR is vastly preferable to anything else in an urban area, including PCC; anyone who can get one should. As far as recommending PCC, they're certainly an option for anyone in a ban state, and perhaps I should say that; the only poast where I considered it, the guy had a Mini and low budget, so I didn't think that was the best option to maximize his money. I think neglected in your PCC v. pistol calculus is concealability; the only reason I recommend a pistol at all is so that someone can carry concealed if they think the situation demands it. In actual fighting, they're virtually nonexistent.

I recommend nods to anyone I think has the budget for them, but I've shot with a monocular before and it's a very strange thing to be able to see in the dark with one eye and not the other; it takes a lot of reps to get used to. That's why I've recommended dual tubes. Those also take a larger budget. I think anyone who finishes purchasing the AR, tac gear/armor, and the survival/mobility/med gear should absolutely buy NVG if they're willing to spend more money.

I think long distance is very useful in rural environs, but most poasters are not there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41173055)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 8:04 PM
Author: talented principal's office

You're working with May information. Supplies are not back to normal, but they're within $100 of normal (and at normal for pre Trump slump).*

Sig M400 AR with Romeo5 for $830: https://gun.deals/product/sig-sauer-m400-tread-556-nato-m-lok-301-71999-e-mail-quote This would have been a reasonable deal 2 years ago.

PSA Entry at $500. This should be $450, but not terrible. This gun is the gun range rental owner's choice. Stop in at a range that rents. These things cost $450 and last 30,000 rounds. https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-pa15-16-nitride-m4-carbine-556-nato-classic-ar15-rifle-black.html

Colt in stock for $1.1K. https://lockedloaded.com/product/m4-carbine-5.56mm-16-m4-a3 Wouldn't be my purchase, but others love them.

Ruger and S&W ARs in stock on gun.deals for under $750.

I also agree with you a PCC or mini isn't the best choice. They are much better choices in California and several other states. 10 rounds you can aim is much better then 10 rounds of "AR" which is like aiming a 2x4.

98% of this stuff, we agree.

~Firearms lawyer and pre-86 owner.

*Except for 9mm and 5.56 ammo, which is still stupid expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41175373)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 6:00 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

You're right that the Sig is an ok deal (although if you click the link to the actual seller, they're not including the dot); the PSA is out of stock, and I'm trying to only recommend immediately available stuff. You'll also see if you click through some of the links that I've recommended Sig M400s throughout the thread for those on a budget.

If somebody has other adults in the house they want to arm, getting three $800 guns is better than one $2,400 gun; if they don't tell me that's one of their objectives, I'm going to assume they're the only shooter.

Agree entirely for ban states or those where AR access is otherwise heavily impeded.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180387)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 1:45 PM
Author: elite insecure black woman

$750

What lvl 4 plate to get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41173060)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 1:54 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Single plate or pair?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41173118)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 2:10 PM
Author: elite insecure black woman

pair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41173230)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 2:16 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Hesco 4401: https://store.atarmor.com/Hesco_4400_Level_IV_Stand_Alone_Plate_p/hs-4400.htm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41173264)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 2:32 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

note: I REALLY would save the money for good armor. Have you ever tried to sprint 50 yards with 20 extra pounds and then take 5 well placed shots with all the time in the world? Now try doing that with the stress of being in a fight. Dropping 10lb off your armor makes a shitton of difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41173367)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 2:37 PM
Author: elite insecure black woman

link to good light weight armor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41173393)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 2:44 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

https://sabersolutions.com/collections/hesco-armor/products/hesco-4800-level-iv-standalone?variant=21332281720912

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41173437)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 2:36 PM
Author: Brass insanely creepy jap

Tiny pink M67 bullets bouncing off like Nerf darts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41173385)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 2:45 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41173444)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 6:33 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41174903)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 7:09 PM
Author: mahogany hairy legs kitchen

Just copped a TLR-6 laser/light for my m&p9 and a compatible IWB holster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41175064)



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Date: October 23rd, 2020 8:24 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

good

any other guns/gear?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41175486)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180055)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 6:05 PM
Author: Sickened Boiling Water Sandwich

https://imgur.com/gallery/7ik93OO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180408)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 6:11 PM
Author: Sickened Boiling Water Sandwich

Acogs

https://imgur.com/gallery/T22AqZ4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180433)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 6:17 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

you're set for rifles, although you know I'm no great fan of ACOGs. Assuming that as an Alaskamo you' also probably have outdoor/survival gear. Next step is chest rig or armor & carrier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180454)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 6:18 PM
Author: elite insecure black woman

ACOGs are so prole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180458)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 6:23 PM
Author: Sickened Boiling Water Sandwich

are noveske's prole?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180487)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 6:22 PM
Author: Sickened Boiling Water Sandwich

Yeah, I don't have any armor of any sort.

Tons of cold weather and outdoor survival stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180481)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 6:30 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

1. Plate Carrier. I'd rec Crye unless you have unlimited budget in which case go LBT.

- Crye JPC 2.0 -- $250: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/blc06602lg0_jpc-20

- Crye AVS Chest rig -- $400: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/avscr102000_avs-detachable-chest-rig

- longer mag pouch -- $54: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps06802000_152bottle-pouch

- shorter mag pouch -- $52: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps06702000_556762mbitr-pouch

- Frag/utility pouch -- $45: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps01302000_frag-pouch

2. Plates. What you get here obviously depends on budget and need. I'd pay for lighter weight though.

- Hesco Level 4 Shooter Cut 10x12 plates -- $1,300: https://sabersolutions.com/collections/hesco-armor/products/hesco-4800-level-iv-standalone?variant=21332281720912

- Hesco Level 3 Shooter Cut 10x12 plates -- $405 x2: https://store.atarmor.com/Hesco_3800_Level_III_plate_p/hs-3800.htm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180527)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 6:17 PM
Author: high-end karate

Have a Glock 23, wife who can shoot, and two young kids. Urban environment. $1500.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180453)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 7:01 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

1. Ruger 10/22 -- $230: https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-1022-carbine-blackgray-semi-automatic-rifle-22-long-rifle/p/1538005

- Leapers 1-8x28 scope -- $150: https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-1-8x28-30mm-close-quarters-multi-range-combat-riflescope.html

- Talley mount rings (high) -- $60: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/product/ruger-rimfire-10-22-steel-rings-for-dovetail-setup/

- Four extended 25 round mags -- $45 x2: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/2-pack-ruger-bx-25-10-22-22lr-25-round-magazine.html

- 1,000 rounds .22 -- $60 x2-- https://www.sgammo.com/product/22-lr-ammo/500-round-brick-22-lr-remington-thunderbolt-40-grain-lead-hv-bulk-pack-ammo-tb22b

2. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

- CATourniquets (add three to main med kit, give one to every adult to keep on their person at all times when shit kicks off) -- $150-300: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

3. Backpack -- $60: https://www.amazon.com/NEVO-RHINO-Internal-Backpack-Ultralight/dp/B07S8MVT2J/

- micro survival kit -- $80: https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/collections/accessories/products/fieldcraft-survival-minimalist-survival-kit

- Sawyer water filter -- $16 -- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2

- 4 water bladders -- $16 x4: https://www.amazon.com/Hydration-Leakproof-Reservoir-Insulated-Replacement/dp/B07NT6PFRZ/

- Fire kit. This is just a gallon ziplock, which you should fill a quarter of the way with petroleum jelly, and then fill to the halfway mark with cotton balls. Close the ziplock and knead the vaseline into the cotton balls until they're thoroughly saturated; add more vaseline as needed. Add a 5 pack of bic lighters and this is set.

- 200' of paracord -- $25: https://www.amazon.com/PARACORD-PLANET-Mil-Spec-Commercial-Paracord/dp/B00ACL4VJI/

- Poncho/shelter -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/USGI-Industries-Military-Emergency-Survival/dp/B083YNW98M/

4. Five gas cans -- $125: https://www.amazon.com/GarageBOSS-GB351-Gallon-Press-Pour/dp/B07GBBG5LZ/

TOTAL: $1,480

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180705)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 7:09 PM
Author: high-end karate

180, ty. Great work itt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180746)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 7:11 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

NP. Much more of a mobility/survival focus since you have kids to worry about. If you happen to find $5,000 in your couch cushions, you can set yourself up much better than this -- still need sleeping bags, non-perishable food, and some real combat gear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180760)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 6:29 PM
Author: underhanded twinkling generalized bond

Ruger 220 slug w leupold 3-9

Weatherby 12 gauge semi auto

Weatherby .308 w vortex 6-24

DDM4V11 w eotech vudu 1-6

Full size m&p

Shield m&p

Sig .380

STI DVC Carry

Pellet gun

BB gun

about 10K rounds various

Budget $4K a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180523)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 7:02 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

You're set for guns. What kind of survival/outdoor gear do you have? What kind of tactical gear do you have?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180713)



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Date: October 30th, 2020 6:11 PM
Author: underhanded twinkling generalized bond

Uh a tent and a sleeping bag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41224342)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 1:07 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

1. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit (add ibuprofen and tylenol to this) -- $270: https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/

- Five CATourniquets (add 3 to main med kit, keep two on you in pockets/pouches when shit kicks off) -- $150: https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

2. Eberlestock Pack F53 Tomahawk pack -- $370: https://eberlestock.com/collections/military/products/f53-tomahawk

- micro survival kit -- $80: https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/collections/accessories/products/fieldcraft-survival-minimalist-survival-kit

- lifestraw Go -- $40 -- https://www.lifestraw.com/products/lifestraw-go

- Fire kit. This is just a gallon ziplock, which you should fill a quarter of the way with petroleum jelly, and then fill to the halfway mark with cotton balls. Close the ziplock and knead the vaseline into the cotton balls until they're thoroughly saturated; add more vaseline as needed. Add a 5 pack of bic lighters and this is set.

- 200' of paracord -- $25: https://www.amazon.com/PARACORD-PLANET-Mil-Spec-Commercial-Paracord/dp/B00ACL4VJI/

- 20° sleeping bag (if the one you already have is superior to this one and is not heavy, ignore this) -- $130: https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/eco-trail-synthetic-20-nf0a3s76

- Sleeping pad -- $45: https://www.rei.com/product/829826/therm-a-rest-z-lite-sol-sleeping-pad

- Poncho/shelter (your tent is gonna be bulky as fuck if you have to hoof it) -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/USGI-Industries-Military-Emergency-Survival/dp/B083YNW98M/

- Water container, either canteens or a bladder; I like this one; MSR 4 liter water reservoir -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Dromedary-Bag-Water-Reservoir/dp/B01MXWBDLV?th=1

- Food; you can get MREs, or get 5 pounds of beef jerky and some of these bars -- just make sure you have some non-perishable food ready to go in case you have to hit the road: https://www.sosproducts.com/SOS-food-bar-p/350237.htm

- Solar phone charger -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/26800mAh-Riapow-Wireless-Portable-Flashlight/dp/B088WG2VXT/

- Garmin GPS -- $330: https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-GPSMAP-High-Sensitivity-GLONASS-Receiver/dp/B00HWL9BQ4/

- Headlamp -- $15: https://www.amazon.com/GearLight-Headlamp-Flashlight-S500-PACK/dp/B07QGRWZNB/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=headlamp&qid=1603254078&sr=8-5

3. Plate Carrier. Obviously carrier setup has plenty of personal preference involved; in my opinion, you should have at least 4 mags, the ability to throw some things in pockets (e.g. notepad, phone, batteries, multitool, maps, GPS, any grenades, cordage if you'll need fast access, zip ties, etc.), and potentially pistol pocket/holster, pistol mags, radio, etc. Alternatively, if you want to grab a chest rig as well (or if you aren't going to run plates, just get this), grab an AVS chest rig (linked below) and attach it to the JPC; no separate pouches, less hassle, but less customizable. Max you're looking at here is around $700, and could easily be as low as $400 if you're going minimalist.

- Crye JPC 2.0 -- $250: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/blc06602lg0_jpc-20

- Crye AVS Chest rig -- $400: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/avscr102000_avs-detachable-chest-rig

- longer mag pouch -- $54: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps06802000_152bottle-pouch

- shorter mag pouch -- $52: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps06702000_556762mbitr-pouch

- Frag/utility pouch -- $45: https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/sps01302000_frag-pouch

4. Hesco Level 3 Shooter Cut 10x12 plates -- $405 x2: https://store.atarmor.com/Hesco_3800_Level_III_plate_p/hs-3800.htm

5. Peltor Sport Tac 500 electronic hearing protection (if you don't already have good electronic earpro) -- $120: https://www.amazon.com/Peltor-Electronic-Protector-Bluetooth-Protection/dp/B06W56YRWJ

6. Five to ten gas cans -- $125-250: https://www.amazon.com/GarageBOSS-GB351-Gallon-Press-Pour/dp/B07GBBG5LZ/

7. ESEE 4 knife -- $115: https://www.bladehq.com/item--ESEE-RAT-Cutlery-RC4--4378

8. Shooting gloves -- $45: https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/ironsight-sensor-gloves-266842?cat=136,26,6

9. Salomon Quest boots -- $230: https://www.rei.com/product/127770/salomon-quest-4d-3-gtx-hiking-boots-mens

- Best boots I've ever worn, and if things go to shit you need footwear that can take a beating in the event you're outside

TOTAL: $3,875

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41232716)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 7:50 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41180999)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 8:16 PM
Author: jade brunch

Wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41181124)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 8:37 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

poast situation for rec, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41181240)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 11:00 PM
Author: smoky bateful trump supporter

I feel way behind.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41181959)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 11:51 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

only thing to do is start now. give situation and budget.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41182190)



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Date: October 24th, 2020 11:25 PM
Author: soul-stirring mustard yarmulke mother

$50,000

6 shotguns of all hunting varieties + shockwave (all 12 gauge tho)

2 AR 15 platforms, one iron sights, one 4x12 bushnell, both on quadrails, have angled grips and bipods

.308 bolt-action, 4x24 Nikon pro staff

3 glocks including everyday carry 43

S&W 643 snub nose

Colt 45 combat elite

Marlin .22

Have all of the fieldcraft cache you have listed above

Live in a major urban area, have 1,000 acres one hour from city

5,000 rounds roughly split into 1,000 .556, 500 12 gauge, 1,000 .22, 50 .308, rest pistol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41182053)



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Date: October 25th, 2020 12:32 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

Not going to drop links for everything like dots since you evidently know where to buy stuff -- if you'd like links, lmk and I can fish em up for you.

0. If your ARs don't have lights, grab those.

1. I'd put an LPVO and offset red dot on the ARs, unless one is very short barreled and then I'd just put a dot on it.

- LPVO: Vortex Razor Gen 3 1-10; Nightforce 1-8 ATACR; Leupold Mk6; Schmidt & Bender PM2 1-8.

- Dot: Aimpoint Micro T2; Trijicon MRO; Holosun 503.

2. Body armor and a plate carrier.

- Plates: Hesco 4800 level 4s, in 10x12 swimmer's cut

- Carrier: Either go LBT if you want the best, Spiritus if you want the second best and you're comfortable ordering all of the parts piecemeal, or the JPC 2.0.

3. Night vision -- get any of the following:

- $12k: https://www.nightvision4less.com/dtnvg-31-l3-omni-viii-unfilmed-white-phosphor-aviation-grade-night-vision-goggle-gen-3-agm-hs.aspx

- $7.3k: https://www.nightvision4less.com/agm-nvg-40-3aw1-dual-tube-nv-goggle-gen-3-auto-gated-white-phosphor-level-1.aspx

- $4.3k: https://www.nightvision4less.com/pvs-7-night-vision-goggle-gen-3ag-hand-select-white-phosphor.aspx

4. Get a civilian PEQ:

- $2.7k: https://tnvc.com/shop/steiner-dbal-a4-class1-3r-ir-laser/

- $1.5k: https://tnvc.com/shop/ldi-dbal-d2-class-1-ir-laser/

5. Get drones; drones allow you to surveil area better than pretty much anything else.

- infrared -- $1.9k: https://www.crutchfield.com/S-9oRD6ilkRGX/p_333PF72812/Parrot-ANAFI-Thermal.html

- photo/video -- $1k: https://store.dji.com/product/mavic-air-2

- very small drone that does photo/video -- $500: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0899K15G9/

6. Outfit your truck.

- camper bed topper -- $9k: https://atoverland.com/pages/at-summit-truck-topper

- decked bed storage -- $1.4k: https://decked.com/

- auxiliary fuel tank or spare gas cans

- portable air compressor and tire patch kit

- grill guard/heavy duty aftermarket bumper

- skid plate

- rock lights/light bars

- fully equipped toolbox with battery powered tools (e.g. cordless impact drill with socket set, basic handtools, heavy duty bolt cutters and chainsaw (at least 60cc / 20"+ bar), etc.)

- solar panel (like https://www.goalzero.com/shop/portable-solar-panels/nomad-100-solar-panel/ + https://www.goalzero.com/shop/last-chance-gear/goal-zero-yeti-400-portable-power-station/ or similar) to charge aforementioned tools without burning fuel/truck battery

7. Outfit your land.

- shelter?

- off-the-grid water?

- off-the-grid electricity?

- border monitoring? (recommend some sort of surveillance setup along roads)

- livestock?

- food storage? (get a deep freeze or 5, so that if you kill, say, an elk or a steer, none of it goes to waste)

- fuel? (I recommend getting a large standing fuel tank you can have filled by a truck order -- then you're not reliant on buying gas/diesel)

- welding/machining shop setup? If you can get a mill, a lathe, and you can weld/solder, you can fix any mechanical problem you have.

Should give you some ideas. Main thing is to be able to get to your land and then keep everyone else off of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41182403)



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Date: October 30th, 2020 6:10 PM
Author: soul-stirring mustard yarmulke mother

Ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41224338)



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Date: October 31st, 2020 11:51 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

anytime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41232368)



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Date: October 26th, 2020 1:51 AM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41188264)



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Date: October 26th, 2020 5:41 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41192404)



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Date: October 27th, 2020 1:21 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

https://twitter.com/selfdeclaredref/status/1320927808026234881?s=20

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4662961&forum_id=2

let none of you think yourselves safe without preparation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41195476)



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Date: October 27th, 2020 1:23 AM
Author: 180 dun halford masturbator

$20, no guns just ninja throwing darts, a hapkido cane and dangerously fast fists that are somewhat sensitive. Peaceful suburb so I don't think the action will affect me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41195489)



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Date: October 27th, 2020 2:40 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

donate the $20 to your local church and pray without ceasing -- you need God's help more than mine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41195707)



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Date: October 28th, 2020 6:53 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41208312)



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Date: October 31st, 2020 11:53 PM
Author: lemon alpha idiot

$5,000 - nothing

live in shitlib city with strict gun laws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41232374)



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Date: October 31st, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: motley nibblets hospital

RIP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41232391)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:32 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

What are the gun laws? Are you able to own an AR?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41235810)



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Date: November 3rd, 2020 1:01 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41253311)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 4:02 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41235975)



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Date: November 1st, 2020 7:48 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41237441)



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Date: November 3rd, 2020 12:24 PM
Author: ruby patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41252870)



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Date: November 3rd, 2020 12:26 PM
Author: elite insecure black woman

any good cheap III+ plates available?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41252890)



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Date: November 3rd, 2020 12:29 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

define cheap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41252941)



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Date: January 17th, 2021 11:26 PM
Author: Snowy twisted theatre brethren

1 standard AR-15 build w/EOTech XPS3-0

1 pistol caliber carbine AR-15 (.45 ACP) w/iron sights

1 crossbow, one of these: https://www.ek-archery.com/product/1/118 (I figure useful for hunting)

idk what I need other than more ammo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41773519)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 12:08 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

Budget?

General living environment (rural/suburban/urban) and anything specific to your circumstance (live in a condo, live on a ranch with a well, etc.)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41773790)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 12:10 AM
Author: Snowy twisted theatre brethren

I don't have a set budget. Live in a suburb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41773810)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 4:59 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

Alright. As with above, some of this is gun stuff, some of it is med gear/survival gear. Some of the items will be much more expensive than others; buy what you want.

1. finish out the AR build. If you already have an item here, skip and move to the next:

- minimum of 6 mags for the AR, 10 is better: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/hexmag-233-5-56-30-round-polymer-magazine.html

- sling -- $80: https://ferroconcepts.com/products/the-slingster +

- light -- $405: the modlite PKW 18650 is a better light, but it's rechargeable and doesn't work with CR123 batteries, so it requires an outlet; the surefire can run off batteries which you can throw a pack of in a backpack and be set for awhile if you're not near a power source: https://www.amazon.com/Mil-Spec-Switch-Socket-Scoutlight-Weaponlights-Activation/dp/B01B5E5NBK/ + https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086XKYTJ4/

----- if you decide you'd like a cheaper ($180) option, try out: https://www.clouddefensive.com/product/lcs-streamlight-hlx-kit/?attribute_color=Flat+Black

- ammo: you're probably gonna pay $1 a round right now; if you need ammo, check out ammoseek.com

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2. get a pistol to CCW; if you're not going to carry, this matters way less and should be bumped down below item 13. get one of the following:

• Archon Type B ($900)

• Sig P320XC ($650): https://www.glockstore.com/Sig-P320-XCompact

• Sig P365 or P365XL ($600-650): https://battlehawkarmory.com/product/sig-sauer-3659bxr3-p365-9mm-luger-3.10-101-black-nitron-black-stainless-steel-black-polymer-grip

• Glock 19 or 26 ($650) if you want 9mm; Glock 23 if you want it in .40 S&W due to 9mm availability

• S&W M&P 9 M2.0 Compact ($600): https://www.primaryarms.com/smith-and-wesson-mp9-m2.0-compact-9mm-pistol-black

• Springfield Hellcat ($600): https://gunprime.com/products/springfield-armory-hellcat-9mm-micro-compact-hc9319b

- light ($130): https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-69260-Weapon-Tactical-Flashlight/dp/B00B8Q31UQ

- CCW holster of some sort -- shop around once you pick a pistol, and I can give suggestions once you have a gun in mind

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3. at this point, you should decide whether you're going to get body armor; I recommend it if you have the cash, but it's not a necessity if it means you can't get the rest of the stuff on this list. If you do get armor, here are the options I recommend:

- Hesco 4800 Large Shooter Cut 10x12 plates x2 ($2,600): https://sabersolutions.com/collections/hesco-armor/products/hesco-4800-level-iv-standalone?variant=21332281720912

- Hesco 3800 Shooter Cut 10x12 plates x2 ($950): https://store.atarmor.com/Hesco_3800_Level_III_plate_p/hs-3800.htm

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4. If you got plates, you're gonna need a carrier.

- grab a JPC 2.0 (in large, since you got large plates) ($250): https://cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/blc06602lg0_jpc-20

- how you set up your carrier is personal preference, but typically you'll want the capacity to carry at least four mags, and a few additional pockets in which you can put things; I'd get this front flap ($65) https://cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/avsdf402000_avs-detachable-flap-m4-flat and these side pouches ($40) https://cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/blc04302000_mbitr-radio-pouch-set to start; if you realize you have more stuff you need to carry, you can get more pouches (such as a back panel for a camelbak, or something).

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5. If you didn't get plates (or you just want one for when you don't want to wear plates), you'll need a chest rig; below are a few options:

- Mayflower UW Gen 4 w/ zipper front ($280): https://www.velsyst.com/collections/chest-rigs/products/uw-chest-rig-split-front-gen-v

- Mayflower UW Gen 4 without zipper ($205): https://www.velsyst.com/collections/chest-rigs/products/uw-chest-rig-gen-iv

- TYR Tactical Assaulter's Chest Rig ($150): http://www.tyrtactical.com/products/details/chest-rigs-sr/tyr-tactical-pico-ds-assaulters-chest-rack/

- Viper Special Ops Chest Rig ($60): https://www.military1st.com/bvchrigsopscoy-viper-special-ops-chest-rig-coyote.html -- I would get this one even if you got plates and a carrier, given how cheap it is.

- There are some other solid ones like the Haley Strategic ones, but they're entirely out of stock and have been for months

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6. Get a pack. I recommend one of the following:

- Exo Mountain Pack ($650): https://exomtngear.com/collections/packs/products/k3-3200-pack-system?variant=19549186883651 -- this one is the best on the market, and is 180 for hunting, backpacking, survival stuff, everything. You can get larger model (4800 -- the 6400 is massive and more than you'd ever need) if you for some reason feel a need to ruck 80-100lb of gear, but the 3800 is optimal, imo. Expensive, but worth every penny imo.

- Mystery Ranch SATL Assault Pack ($500): https://www.mysteryranch.com/satl-assault-pack -- the only pack on here that imo can compete with the Exo; standard issue for SOCOM for awhile, really great pack.

- Eberlestock F53 Tomahawk Pack ($330): https://eberlestock.com/collections/military/products/f53-tomahawk

- Eberlestock F3M Halftrack Pack ($230): https://eberlestock.com/products/halftrack-backpack

- SOG Prophet 30 Backpack ($230): https://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com/sog-knives-prophet-30.html

- Nevo 50l Rhino Internal Hiking Backpack ($80): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004VRKWR4/?tag=bootbomb.com-20 -- this is worse than any of the others listed, but if you want to go super cheap, this is a way to do it

- get a rain cover for your pack ($40): https://eberlestock.com/products/featherweight-pack-rain-cover?variant=16875817173043

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7. Fill your pack with the following:

- Fire kit. This is just a gallon ziplock, which you should fill a quarter of the way with petroleum jelly, and then fill to the halfway mark with cotton balls. Close the ziplock and knead the vaseline into the cotton balls until they're thoroughly saturated; add more vaseline as needed. Add a 5 pack of bic lighters to the ruck and this is set.

- Sawyer Water Filter Mini ($25): https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Water-Filtration-System/dp/B00TOX6UM6?th=1

- Water bladder of some sort; I like this one, but you could also get a camelbak or something similar; MSR 4 liter water reservoir -- $40: https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Dromedary-Bag-Water-Reservoir/dp/B01MXWBDLV?th=1

- Poncho (doubles as a shelter/tarp) ($35): https://www.amazon.com/Military-Tactical-P20000mm-Waterproof-Material/dp/B083Q6MJD3/

- 200' of paracord ($25): https://www.amazon.com/PARACORD-PLANET-Mil-Spec-Commercial-Paracord/dp/B00ACL4VJI/

- 0° sleeping bag -- if in colder climate, you may want to get a better one than this; I can recommend a few -- ($90): https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/slumberjack-ronin-0degf-mummy-sleeping-bag?a=2157703

- Sleeping pad ($45): https://www.rei.com/product/829826/therm-a-rest-z-lite-sol-sleeping-pad

- Food; you can get MREs, or get 5 pounds of beef jerky and some of these bars -- just make sure you have some non-perishable food ready to go in case you have to hit the road: https://www.sosproducts.com/SOS-food-bar-p/350237.htm

- Solar phone charger ($40): https://www.amazon.com/26800mAh-Riapow-Wireless-Portable-Flashlight/dp/B088WG2VXT/

- Garmin GPS -- $250: https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-GPSMAP-High-Sensitivity-GLONASS-Receiver/dp/B00HWL9BQ4/

- Headlamp ($15): https://www.amazon.com/GearLight-Headlamp-Flashlight-S500-PACK/dp/B07QGRWZNB/

- Jetboil ($120): https://jetboil.johnsonoutdoors.com/stoves-systems/flash-cooking-system?id=566 + pick up some fuel in person at REI -- this is far from essential but it's convenient

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8. Solatac Multi-Casualty first aid kit (add ibuprofen and tylenol to this) ($270): https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/multi-cas-kit/ -- all the med gear you need to treat most common injuries for your family

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9. Five CATourniquets (add 3 to main med kit, keep two on you in pockets/pouches when shit kicks off) ($150): https://www.narescue.com/combat-application-tourniquet-c-a-t.html

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10. Solatac IFAK ($65): https://solatac.com/home/index.php/product/black-multi-cam-bok-filled/ -- attach to plate carrier or belt

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11. ESEE 4 knife ($115): https://www.bladehq.com/item--ESEE-RAT-Cutlery-RC4--4378 -- you can carry this on the plate carrier or on your belt, but you should have it on one of those; I like belt.

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12. Peltor Sport Tac 500 electronic hearing protection ($120): https://www.amazon.com/Peltor-Electronic-Protector-Bluetooth-Protection/dp/B06W56YRWJ

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13. Five to ten gas cans (depending on your vehicle/space -- you need space for the rest of this list too) ($125-250): https://www.amazon.com/GarageBOSS-GB351-Gallon-Press-Pour/dp/B07GBBG5LZ/ -- this extends your driving range significantly; when things start getting bad you can fill them and place them in your trunk

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14. Baofeng + antenna ($110): https://www.amazon.com/BTECH-UV-5X3-Tri-Band-Amateur-Earpiece/dp/B01J2W4JUI/ + https://www.amazon.com/Nagoya-NA-320A-2M-1-25M-70CM-144-220-440Mhz-BTECH/dp/B01K10B9XK/ + https://www.amazon.com/BTECH-PC03-Genuine-Programming-Cable/dp/B00HUB0ONK/

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15. Salomon Quest boots ($230): https://www.rei.com/product/127770/salomon-quest-4d-3-gtx-hiking-boots-mens -- best boots I've ever worn, and if things go to shit you need footwear that can take a beating in the event you're outside

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16. Shooting gloves ($45): https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/ironsight-sensor-gloves-266842?cat=136,26,6 -- shooting fast gets the gun hot and gloves help a lot

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17. NVGs; these are expensive, you don't have to have them, but if you do, it's an enormous advantage:

- $12k: https://www.nightvision4less.com/dtnvg-31-l3-omni-viii-unfilmed-white-phosphor-aviation-grade-night-vision-goggle-gen-3-agm-hs.aspx

- $7.3k: https://www.nightvision4less.com/agm-nvg-40-3aw1-dual-tube-nv-goggle-gen-3-auto-gated-white-phosphor-level-1.aspx

- $4.3k: https://www.nightvision4less.com/pvs-7-night-vision-goggle-gen-3ag-hand-select-white-phosphor.aspx

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18. If you get NVGs, you should attach a laser to your rifle with which to aim, because it is visible through your night vision:

- $2.7k: https://tnvc.com/shop/steiner-dbal-a4-class1-3r-ir-laser/

- $1.5k: https://tnvc.com/shop/ldi-dbal-d2-class-1-ir-laser/

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I could give you some more guns if you want a well rounded collection, starting with a 6.5 Creedmoor bolt or gas gun, but if you get the above you're more than set.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41774790)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 11:30 AM
Author: Snowy twisted theatre brethren

Ty. Live in a shit state I want to leave so CCW, 30 round mags etc. Aren't happening. I have 6 10 rd magpul pmags but definitely need more for the PCC. Also, if I got a pistol I would definitely get a Glock 45 acp so I could share ammo and mags with the rifle.

For nvg, do I need the laser since the xps3 is specifically compatible with nvg?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41775807)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 11:49 AM
Author: ruby patrolman

Absolutely move, brother.

Well, depends on the nvg you get. If you get the cheapest one I listed, which is a two eye monocular, it's impossible to really aim through the sight very well, based on where you would have to align the gun. If you get a different monocular nvg like the PVS14, you can aim through it but running a single eye monocular comes with its own problems -- one eye sees black and one eye sees through the tube, and it takes a lot of reps to get used to this. If you get nvg with two tubes, it becomes viable to aim through the sight. However, I would still recommend getting the laser. The reason for this is twofold: first, it's much easier to aim with a laser than it is just through a sight with nods; second, both of those models contain an infrared laser, as well as a visible one, meaning that if you use the infrared laser, it is not visible to anyone who does not have night vision on. There's also an illuminator, which is essentially an infrared flashlight that is used to make areas much easier to see through the nvg. They really make things easier if you're running night vision because nvg relies on amplifying existing light; if you're indoors and there is no light to magnify, you're still not gonna see shit unless you have an IR illuminator, which acts as a flashlight that's invisible to the naked eye. I would get one.

You can also get the B.E. Meyers MAWL (get it with the EC2 tailcap): https://tnvc.com/shop/b-e-meyers-mawl-c1-ir-visible-laser/ -- see this video on it: https://youtu.be/7TLLXOpknd8?t=200

I would watch the video for a good demonstration of why a laser/illuminator is useful, even if you don't want to buy the MAWL (although the MAWL is probably the best available civilian IR and laser device -- I'd buy that if you have the cash).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41775929)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 5:49 PM
Author: Snowy twisted theatre brethren

I'd definitely move if I could. Fuck this shit.

Ugh, NVG is probably just too rich for my blood. At that point it seems I'm better off just getting a thermal sight instead of trying to wear crazy shit on my head. We're talking like a $10-20k investment anyway (which, isn't really happening).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41778381)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 6:26 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Do what you have to do, but there's not enough money in the world for me to live in any of the 8 states with magazine laws. You probably have options elsewhere, if you choose to explore them.

You don't have to have NVG -- that's why I asked budget. If you truly have no budget, I'd tell you all this and more (drones, land, vehicles, fuel, a helicopter if you have a team of people) but realistically 99.999% of people have a budget. If you really want NVG (and I think they're worth getting), get the other stuff and budget for them over time. If I wanted decent NVG on a budget, I'd get, in this order:

- $3k: https://www.nightvision4less.com/atn-pvs7-night-vision-goggle-gen-3.aspx

- HHV ATE ($500): https://www.hardheadveterans.com/products/ballistic-helmet + Wilcox L4 G24 ($500): https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-l4-g24-mount-w-low-profile-breakaway-base/

- B.E. Meyers MAWL with the EC2 tailcap ($2.7k): https://tnvc.com/shop/b-e-meyers-mawl-c1-ir-visible-laser/

That has a total cost of about $7k, which is a lot but also budgetable over time. If you want a significant performance upgrade for 1k more, switch out those NVG with these: $4.3k: https://www.nightvision4less.com/pvs-7-night-vision-goggle-gen-3ag-hand-select-white-phosphor.aspx

I would rather have NVG and no plates than the reverse; you can evade trouble very well by moving at night with NVG if your enemy doesn't have them, and minimize need for plates (which are most valuable in urban combat/CQC, which you can avoid). However, I put them last because the initial entry cost is so high that a lot of people just won't get them.

If you can't do NVG, then don't; get the stuff you can and prep as well as you can.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41778623)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 6:37 PM
Author: Snowy twisted theatre brethren

I have golden handcuffs (job that pays really well, lets me mostly wfh, 6+ weeks of vacation that I actually take, etc.). The "mostly" wfh isn't wfh enough to let me get up and move. My hope is that eventually I can get there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41778694)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 6:48 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Stack cash and make a plan to get out. If you don't make a plan you'll be there in 15 years, and it may be a bad place to be then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41778736)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 12:04 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Also, once you've gotten everything else, get this:

18. A fighting belt is different from a regular belt in that it has molle webbing to attach pouches. It should have a holster, at least one pistol mag pouch, and first aid kit; the rest is personal preference -- I like to run two AR mags on my belt, there are some people who run four, some who run none. More info on setting up a belt here: https://youtu.be/__78Ve2dIUo General upside of a belt is that it puts weight on your hips instead of shoulders (where a plate carrier or chest rig places it). I'm linking the QLS system with the holster below because it's very handy when in vehicles to be able to take the holster off the belt. All told, looking at about $5-600

- Ronin Tactics molle belt -- $200: https://www.ronintactics.com/store/p80/Task_Force_%28TF%29_Belt.html

- Safariland 7377 pistol holster with QLS system: https://safariland.com/products/model-7377-7ts-als-concealment-belt-loop-holster-34850 + https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MF48AQ/ + https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002868Q46/ + https://www.trex-arms.com/store/New-Thigh-Strap/ + https://store.otdefense.com/products/als-nub-mod-black

- Pistol mag pouches: https://esstac.com/shop-all/magazine-pouches/pistols/

- Blue force micro trauma kit (basic supplies, molle mount -- don't use to treat things when you have access to the big solatac kit) -- $130: https://www.blueforcegear.com/medical-items.html

- AR mag pouches: https://esstac.com/5-56/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41776011)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 1:32 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Oh, and if you're getting night vision, you need something to mount it on. You can get either a ballistic helmet or a "bump" helmet, which is so named because the only thing it'll protect you from is bumping your head.

I recommend a ballistic helmet if you have the cash for NVG. Here are a few options.

BALLISTIC HELMETS:

- Ops-Core FAST helmet ($1.5k): https://shop.gentexcorp.com/ops-core-fast-xp-high-cut-helmet/ -- the best there is in the helmet world; this is what our highspeed SOF units were using for awhile, and may still be using; the high cut is so you can wear ear-pro underneath the helmet.*

- Team Wendy Exfil ($1.2k): https://www.teamwendy.com/products/helmets-accessories/helmets/exfil-ballistic

- Avon F70 ($1.1k): https://botach.com/avon-ceradyne-f70-mid-cut-boltless-level-iiia-ballistic-helmets/

- MTEK Flux Ballistic ($2.2k): https://www.mtekusa.com/flux-ballistic/fluxballistic

- HHV ATE ($500): https://www.hardheadveterans.com/products/ballistic-helmet

BUMP HELMETS:

- HHV ATE Bump ($210): https://www.hardheadveterans.com/products/tactical-helmet-ate-bump

- Team Wendy Exfil Bump ($300): https://www.teamwendy.com/products/helmets-accessories/helmets/exfil-ltp

- DLP Tactical Impax Bump ($150): https://www.amazon.com/DLP-Tactical-ImpaX-Bump-Helmet/dp/B07BHVTGJP

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Mount for your NVG:

- Wilcox L4 G24 ($500): https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-l4-g24-mount-w-low-profile-breakaway-base/

- Wilcox L4 G11 ($370): https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-l4-g11-mount/

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*if you want to buy nicer ear-pro than I gave you above because you're running a radio with lots of communication going on (e.g. you're working with a team), you can buy a Peltor Comtac headset, which is what our current SOF use; you can hook it up to whatever radio you're using; full headset with mic ($900): https://srstactical.com/3mtm-peltortm-comtactm-vi-nib-communication-headset-headband-arc-dynamic-boom-mic-1768.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41776632)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 5:48 PM
Author: Snowy twisted theatre brethren

ty. If nothing else, you have convinced me that while I've spent like $5k on all the various gear I've gotten over the past several months, I didn't really go over the deep end. :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41778366)



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Date: January 18th, 2021 6:06 PM
Author: ruby patrolman

Lol yeah you can always spend way more. Only difference between you and the government is money and manpower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4656146&forum_id=2#41778503)