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even ending the programs going forward so that no NEW people...
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:40 AM
Author: sienna stag film faggot firefighter

Or is it simply given to them if they don’t have income? I honestly don’t know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660524)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:40 AM
Author: Twinkling Histrionic Multi-billionaire

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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:40 AM
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:41 AM
Author: sienna stag film faggot firefighter

How does that work though, they must have to apply at least, so how do you decide who gets to live there and who is on the street

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660529)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:42 AM
Author: Yellow Passionate Institution

Every city, county, and state has armies of 950 SAT social workers with pensions who do virtually no real work to make these decisions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660531)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:43 AM
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:45 AM
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:54 AM
Author: crimson school cafeteria cumskin

this is another reason why UBI won't ever happen in true form.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660561)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:05 PM
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 6:56 PM
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 6:57 PM
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:43 AM
Author: mischievous spruce knife university

It takes years on a waiting list/lottery which is why it’s always the grandmother whose name is on the lease

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660533)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:52 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Overrated Office

in nyc, they pay rent, but it's so out of whack with market that it is the strongest single factor in creating generational poverty imho.

the amount of people who give up on all types of life changes/opportunities because they can't imagine leaving their nycha apartment because it's "such a great deal" and they're "so lucky" to have one is crazy.

i know a guy who grew up in a 3-bd apartment in harlem and his mother's rent was and still is $25.00. twenty. five.

basically, it's the worst thing that can happen to a family. "yay i got off the nycha list" basically means "congrats, you've doomed your kids and grandkids to living there and not really aspiring to much beyond a reasonable distance from your apartment".

it's a form of golden handcuffs in a strange way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660558)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:57 AM
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:57 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Overrated Office

found this in an article from 2018:

The average rent is $522 a month, according to NYCHA, though rents can go as low as $10 or as high as $3,000, depending on a tenant’s income and the size of their apartment.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660572)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:41 AM
Author: sooty market

Also, they dont even actually have to pay the $10/month

The landlord isn't going to evict someone who skips out on $10/month while the gov is still paying the remaining $2,990/month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660691)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:28 AM
Author: boyish ultramarine bawdyhouse degenerate

Lmao this is the same political game as government unions. The city would be so much better off if it ended these programs, all these people got evicted and people who could pay market rents/mortgages moved in. The neighborhood would be better and the poors would have to move to rural Alabama or something and learn how to work for a living.

Of course it will never happen because the voters would never elect someone who ended their distopian grift.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41661369)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:43 AM
Author: Stirring Hominid

even ending the programs going forward so that no NEW people got these various benefits would be a big step forward, it would just delay the improvement for a while

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41661420)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:58 AM
Author: mauve hairraiser site

interesting

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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:01 AM
Author: learning disabled hell sound barrier

If you start making more money, does your rent go up? Or do they make you ineligible and kick you out? What if someone like your friend grows up with his mom in a Harlem project and then gets a high-paying Wall Street job and keeps living there (under the mom's name maybe)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660583)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:02 AM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness

Both. It goes up with salary, iirc, but after a certain amount you are no longer eligible to live there. Basically, an awful set of incentives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660591)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:03 AM
Author: learning disabled hell sound barrier



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:22 AM
Author: Stirring Hominid

but the DIGNITY of having your human rights protected is worth it hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41661347)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:10 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Overrated Office

my buddy is a doctor actually. her husband owned a bodega and he lived in the apartment but didn't really live there paperwork wise. she had an under the table job running a daycare out of her living room back in the day.

here is the thing: if you are an adult and have a high tolerance for hood bullshit, then sure, whatever. but she raised 3 boys in this when she could have aspired to better. her son--my homeboy--was VERY MUCH fucked up by his upbringing and did the whole "apply to those jew programs where they adopt black and brown pets and pay for them to go to boarding school at like 6th grade" on his own to get out. his other two brothers are completely fucked up. one of which did many years inside. but she had a great apartment!

mind you, her husband was a bodeguero...guy was fucking raking so it was not about the means.

the system incentivizes getting under the table pay. basically, you can't get out of the shadows. so what happens is you LOOK for under the table living and inevitably the cycle continues. you are, say, 18 and say to your moms "i got a job at dr. jays selling sneakers" she will say "i can't have you working there unless it's under the table". you respond "ma, they are a real company. they do like direct deposit and stuff" she goes "mi'jo, esto no e' bueno. we could lose the apartment. im sorry. but we can't" which means you can't.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660612)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:16 AM
Author: Kink-friendly Titillating Crackhouse Incel

which mom

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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:20 AM
Author: comical fighting wagecucks



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:24 AM
Author: Costumed Becky

this is fascinating stuff, ty for your perspective

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41661356)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:50 PM
Author: supple property

What are these Jew programs you speak of? Philanthropy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41662094)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:05 PM
Author: charcoal quadroon fanboi

the little lebowski urban achievers, yes, and proud we are of all of them

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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:35 PM
Author: Shivering silver address gaping

so racially they’re pretty cool?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41664931)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:04 PM
Author: charcoal quadroon fanboi



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:01 AM
Author: fragrant french hairy legs



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:02 AM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness

tcr. And remember, if you somehow make a solid but unspectacular salary (say, $80k, $100k, etc.) then you lose that apartment. That's why you'll see people in the projects trying to get to the NBA or become big name rappers but lol @ caring about a college degree. All that will do is put you in debt to get a salary that will wreck your deal. So they just don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660588)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:23 AM
Author: Stirring Hominid

the modern Dem plantation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41661353)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:36 AM
Author: boyish ultramarine bawdyhouse degenerate

This is honestly the best argument I’ve seen outside superior genetics to explain the prevalence of homies in pro sports. I’m sure it’s a trivial factor compared to genetics though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41661401)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 4:58 PM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness

Idk, if you have a population of people where their only real path up is being a pro sports player then it makes sense that most pro sports players will come from that population. Same reason so many soccer players are from South America. Genetics wouldn't imply that Latin people would be better than black people at soccer, for example. If you've ever been to a black ghetto you'll see that a lot of these kids really do spend 10 hours a day playing ball. White kids have to worry about things like studying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41662999)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:03 AM
Author: vengeful den karate



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:04 AM
Author: Alcoholic indian lodge really tough guy

Damn. Really interesting. Makes sense from an incentive structure perspective for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660599)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:37 AM
Author: Red Floppy Gas Station Reading Party



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:38 AM
Author: Big Cowardly Keepsake Machete Forum

The Jew cries out in pain as he accepts a rent-controlled apartment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660686)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:40 AM
Author: Impertinent church



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:41 AM
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 7:19 PM
Author: Glittery cobalt resort goyim



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:44 AM
Author: slate step-uncle's house

There are housing complexes for middle-class whites in Chelsea, e.g., that are closer to market, but I feel that it's creating a similar effect on my white friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660697)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:50 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Overrated Office



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:54 AM
Author: Carmine Excitant Fortuitous Meteor Associate

so you think that tons of people who would otherwise go get a degree and pursue law or medicine or some other upwardly mobile pursuit just entirely forego any such ambition because they want to keep their $50/mo apartment in the family?

I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong and I'm sure the system creates fucked up incentives that alter outcomes... but this just sounds extreme.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660706)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:28 AM
Author: Stirring Hominid

> go get a degree and pursue law or medicine or some other upwardly mobile pursuit

I don't think the issue is tons of potential doctors and lawyers are being discouraged from climbing out of the projects. But you could have people getting discouraged who might have been working a decent trade job or middling office work, supporting themselves in a decent middle class existence. And maybe *their* kids would have aspired to higher things.

Incentives matter. People respond to them. A nice place to live is a major motivator for people to improve their situation. If their actions and choices in life have no relation to whether or not they get to experience that outcome, there will be a real impact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41661373)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:39 AM
Author: boyish ultramarine bawdyhouse degenerate

Fuck libs

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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:57 PM
Author: medicated gaming laptop native



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 6:21 PM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:04 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Overrated Office

my understanding is the research (liberal research) proves that the public housing policies of american inner cities--especially nyc--limits opportunity. let's say you live in morrisania, you have no access to a subway station really and just intrabronx buses, your mom has a $200 a month 2 bed with a section 8 kicker. so much shit is limited in terms of real options. im a bronx guy and i know so many of those types whose world is bordered at the north at fordham and to the south at some random spot like 161st or 149th. there is something to future orientation/asymmetrical incentives that makes the world very very small in the vision of the dependent.

i dont know that the answer is a libertarian reckoning either. but imho this is the biggest single thing policywise that creates generational poverty. with the biggest social factor period being the father. whether he is there or not, and he has a record, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41661927)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 2:00 PM
Author: pale dysfunction

The answer is building more public housing so it isn’t so scarce, and easing the income rules to incentivize people to earn more. The problem is there is no desire to invest in these programs because people view it as hopeless:

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41662122)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:03 PM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness

This is an awful and very shitlib solution. The solution is to make public housing shittier and less desirable. Why the fuck is it in Manhattan at all? Put it fuck knows where at the edge of Brooklyn and Queens. Want to be in a nice place? Get a job. There should be no such thing as a 3 bedroom public housing apartment in Manhattan for $25/month. Try max 1 bedroom. Oh, it isn't comfortable? Get a career and get out of there. Also, there shouldn't be homelessness because if you build 1 room or 2 room units instead of 4 room units you're going to have buildings with way more units. And because they're way out, they're also cheaper to build.

To the extent there are nicer buildings, they should cost more. You earn more and you should live better. That creates proper incentives. You can also give credit to people with kids who do better in school.

There's a bunch of shit you can do to make public housing a temporary stepping stone up rather than an intergenerational super desirable thing that pushes you to make terrible life choices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663011)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:04 PM
Author: sienna stag film faggot firefighter

I think NYC is a special case because most black housing projects in other cities look like Beirut and the residents still don't leave.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663017)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:09 PM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness

And they absolutely should look like that. This is like "why don't we make prisons nice and comfortable for everyone??? Maybe build them on beach resorts instead? Give everyone a PS5 or Xbox Series X." If you're living off the public then it shouldn't be nice or comfortable. It should be undesirable. You should be constantly reminded that you're a net loss to society.

Yeah, we should do more to make sure there's a way up. All those companies screaming that black lives matter should be pressured to come up with apprenticeship programs centered in these ghettos. You want to be Goodyear tires and applaud CRT? Then why aren't you training people in the ghetto to make and install tires? And obviously, this should extend to poor white communities too but fuck the hypocrisy of these fuckers crying about black criminals being shot and maybe contributing money to BLM but doing absolutely nothing to help poor blacks actually move up in the world.

But I digress (but only slightly)...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663042)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 6:01 PM
Author: medicated gaming laptop native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663275)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 6:57 PM
Author: sienna stag film faggot firefighter

this is what most cities with housing projects look like:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7581465,-72.6899372,3a,75y,213.36h,84.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGrR-cmNkqSHpYawCeTkjyg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663664)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 7:00 PM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness

That's fine. See my post above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663681)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:00 PM
Author: fragrant french hairy legs

Veering off-topic but would appreciate fleshing out the fatherhood point a bit more based on your experience in these areas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663005)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:33 PM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness

This is extremely well known. Single parents have far worse results for a variety of reasons. Some are economic (single parents far more likely to be poor), some involve actual parenting (very hard for 1 parent to provide the same care as 2), some includes the role model aspect (you have a boy with an absent dad who is in a gang, makes it more likely they will join a gang and think knocking up a girl is nbd because it is no skin off your back). Some is likely correlation rather than causation as well because better educated, wealthier people tend to marry more and divorce less. Nevertheless, pretty much no one thinks that fully accounts for the delta.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663124)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 6:51 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Overrated Office

The research is overwhelming about predictive ability of father data point on child success.

ime, it is so predictive to be damn near 100%. dad in the picture you ended up at least ok. maybe its an anamoly, but my experience was EITHER dead beat no dad or solid dad at home. Not a lot of shitty at home dads. The sample size is skewed because it was church/catholic school crowd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663629)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 4:54 PM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness

You're thinking about this the wrong way. It isn't "they become lawyers/doctors/MBAs like XOers or they live on welfare." That isn't how poor people work. IRL, poor people strive to be middle class. Maybe they would go to college (either 2 or 4 year) and learn a trade and instead of making $20k/year (or even less), they make $70-100k/year. Maybe they're electricians or accountants. And their kids also want to do better, so they might continue to move up in the world. They would buy a house and build real wealth that they would pass on to their kids.

Instead, they earn pretty much nothing, don't bother with education because it just isn't worth it. They pass nothing on to their kids other than that apartment. Their kids continue to be just as poor and worthless as they are. People respond to incentives and the incentives here are awful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41662982)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:03 PM
Author: Stirring Hominid

as long as they keep voting Dem, that's all that matters!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663010)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:12 PM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness

Which is the real story here. D pols dgaf about what's good for the residents over the long term. Instead, they promise to make public housing nicer if elected so the residents vote for them. Less than half of units for rent in NYC are market rate at this point, so getting someone elected who wants to actually fix shit is impossible. This is also why eventually NYC will become Detroit or Newark.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663053)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:19 PM
Author: Stirring Hominid

the whole US is going this way bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663086)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:28 PM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness

Agreed. That's what's going on with this "stimulus" and yangbux and all that bullshit. It is just a way to get more people to sign over their lives to state management. Soon you won't own shit and will live in state-provided housing unless you're one of a few very rich that will live in essentially a parallel universe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663114)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:39 PM
Author: Stirring Hominid

Getting people into a state of not owning anything and being dependent on govt and apps is the stated goal of the global elite

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/how-life-could-change-2030/

Sample of their fanfic of a serfdom future:

Welcome to the year 2030. Welcome to my city - or should I say, "our city". I don't own anything. I don't own a car. I don't own a house. I don't own any appliances or any clothes.

It might seem odd to you, but it makes perfect sense for us in this city. Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.

First communication became digitized and free to everyone. Then, when clean energy became free, things started to move quickly. Transportation dropped dramatically in price. It made no sense for us to own cars anymore, because we could call a driverless vehicle or a flying car for longer journeys within minutes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663161)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:43 PM
Author: nubile twinkling uncleanness

LOL, this is a nice admission:

"My biggest concern is all the people who do not live in our city. Those we lost on the way. Those who decided that it became too much, all this technology. Those who felt obsolete and useless when robots and AI took over big parts of our jobs. Those who got upset with the political system and turned against it. They live different kind of lives outside of the city. Some have formed little self-supplying communities. Others just stayed in the empty and abandoned houses in small 19th century villages.

Once in awhile I get annoyed about the fact that I have no real privacy. No where I can go and not be registered. I know that, somewhere, everything I do, think and dream of is recorded. I just hope that nobody will use it against me."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663184)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:33 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Overrated Office

lmao it's basically the story of the citizens in a brave new world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41664909)



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Date: January 2nd, 2021 7:04 PM
Author: chartreuse dashing shrine messiness

Stalin tp strangely absent from this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663703)