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How long before Electric vehicles take over majority of the automobile market

Want to see if I should hold off on buying a new honda civic
Cerebral insanely creepy locus
  05/08/21
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Cerebral insanely creepy locus
  05/08/21
3-5 years
swashbuckling macaca gas station
  05/08/21
If you're offering even odds on 5 years, I'm betting everyth...
nofapping thriller toaster church
  05/08/21
ok
swashbuckling macaca gas station
  05/09/21
The average age of a car is like 10 years so it will take at...
Smoky stage
  05/09/21
thats true. i guess i was thinking market = new cars -- star...
swashbuckling macaca gas station
  05/09/21
I'd take the same bet even under your interpretation. Bei...
nofapping thriller toaster church
  05/09/21
brah all apartments have chargers in them, and people living...
swashbuckling macaca gas station
  05/09/21
ive never seen an apartment with chargers
Effete Hell
  05/09/21
there is a federal tax incentive. every new one has them
swashbuckling macaca gas station
  05/09/21
If you're counting on apartment development, you better get ...
nofapping thriller toaster church
  05/09/21
It's not even remotely close to true that all apartments hav...
nofapping thriller toaster church
  05/09/21
you realize that not everyone in america lives in a city or ...
Adventurous cream queen of the night
  05/09/21
stfu you bald faggot
beady-eyed trailer park coldplay fan
  05/09/21
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Transparent senate
  05/09/21
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Adventurous cream queen of the night
  05/09/21
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doobsian resort
  05/09/21
I would say 0% chance in the next 10 years. My brother boug...
Abnormal Toilet Seat Karate
  05/09/21
i dont get this. unless youre driving around 24/7 or somethi...
swashbuckling macaca gas station
  05/09/21
Proles drive like 500 miles/week minimum and are very sponta...
Smoky stage
  05/09/21
yeah also if the car doesnt burn things its gay double ga...
doobsian resort
  05/09/21
180. But they’ve made most cars so gay that a Tesla is...
Smoky stage
  05/09/21
https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-debuts-all-electric-suv-...
swashbuckling macaca gas station
  05/09/21
There's a small chance they could be the majority of automob...
hairraiser avocado cuckold
  05/09/21
once batteries get cheaper, elec cars should be a LOT cheape...
saffron fragrant base french chef
  05/09/21
Batteries are already beating the estimates on the cost curv...
hairraiser avocado cuckold
  05/09/21
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Lascivious nudist partner
  10/13/21
I think 30% in 2030 is way too low of an estimate. I wouldn'...
racy volcanic crater
  10/14/21
There's a very good chance that within 10 years we'll have e...
multi-colored citrine candlestick maker national
  05/09/21
3 years ago I was halfassedly shopping for a car and dismiss...
Indecent Boltzmann
  05/09/21
This isn't because of your new gig?
violent cruise ship genital piercing
  05/09/21
Ok maybe a little
Indecent Boltzmann
  05/09/21
Probably quicker in a bunch foreign countries that are not n...
deranged native
  05/09/21
So don’t buy a new a Honda Civic?
Cerebral insanely creepy locus
  05/09/21
Never. People forget that this “fad” already...
bisexual vermilion brethren
  10/13/21


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Date: May 8th, 2021 8:55 PM
Author: Cerebral insanely creepy locus

Want to see if I should hold off on buying a new honda civic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42426672)



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Date: May 8th, 2021 11:55 PM
Author: Cerebral insanely creepy locus



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Date: May 8th, 2021 11:57 PM
Author: swashbuckling macaca gas station

3-5 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42427799)



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Date: May 8th, 2021 11:59 PM
Author: nofapping thriller toaster church

If you're offering even odds on 5 years, I'm betting everything I have and can get a hold of on the other side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42427811)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:07 AM
Author: swashbuckling macaca gas station

ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42427890)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:43 AM
Author: Smoky stage

The average age of a car is like 10 years so it will take at least that long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42428110)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:48 AM
Author: swashbuckling macaca gas station

thats true. i guess i was thinking market = new cars -- starting in 2021/2022 every major car company with have at least a few fully electric vehicles in their lineup. soon we will have fully electric silverados/F350s for example. they will likley have better performance and cost less than ICE alternatives. wouldnt be surprised if biden admin tries to incentive more charging infrastructure for EVs

mercedes, porsche, audi, will all have a significant portion of their fleets become EVs in 2021/2022 https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g29994375/future-electric-cars-trucks/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42428130)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 1:06 PM
Author: nofapping thriller toaster church

I'd take the same bet even under your interpretation.

Being generous to your view, you've got a hard short-term cap of like 70% EV adoption just based on the people who rent. That means you need about 70% of all remaining sales to be EV. Not gonna happen. Not even close. Range anxiety is still a problem. Charging infrastructure is still shit. And EVs are more expensive for consumers and less profitable for manufacturers. Five years is just way too ambitious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42429942)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 1:23 PM
Author: swashbuckling macaca gas station

brah all apartments have chargers in them, and people living in apartments dont live in ARE, not the same range issues

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430003)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 1:43 PM
Author: Effete Hell

ive never seen an apartment with chargers



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430054)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 1:48 PM
Author: swashbuckling macaca gas station

there is a federal tax incentive. every new one has them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430063)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 2:14 PM
Author: nofapping thriller toaster church

If you're counting on apartment development, you better get them moving. It takes a few years to build an apartment complex. And you're going to need a LOT more new apartments with far more chargers than is typical in new apartments now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430168)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 1:43 PM
Author: nofapping thriller toaster church

It's not even remotely close to true that all apartments have chargers, much less the number needed to support 50% EV adoption. Rather, some new complexes have a couple just so they can say they're one of the cool kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430055)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 2:16 PM
Author: Adventurous cream queen of the night

you realize that not everyone in america lives in a city or anywhere near ev infrastructure, and even then not everyone wants electric?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430180)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 9:46 PM
Author: beady-eyed trailer park coldplay fan

stfu you bald faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42432033)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:08 AM
Author: Transparent senate



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:12 AM
Author: Adventurous cream queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42427927)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:24 AM
Author: doobsian resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42427994)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:11 AM
Author: Abnormal Toilet Seat Karate

I would say 0% chance in the next 10 years. My brother bought two Teslas (S and 3) and for years sang their praises about how great they were. Then he bought a gasoline powered BMW and said it was much better. Electric cars require a change in your lifestyle and driving habits to accommodate their severe limitations, and they cost a lot more than gasoline powered cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42427920)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:16 AM
Author: swashbuckling macaca gas station

i dont get this. unless youre driving around 24/7 or something you only have to charge the tesla over night like once a week

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42427955)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:23 AM
Author: Smoky stage

Proles drive like 500 miles/week minimum and are very spontaneous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42427990)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:25 AM
Author: doobsian resort

yeah also if the car doesnt burn things its gay

double gay if it has cameras all over it

triple gay if it parallel parks/avoids smashing into other cars for you

vehicle ownership is pretty much the last point of pride/not being gay that most americans have, but the elites are gaying up all of our cars and are trying to make the driving experience entirely gynocentric and, as it seems to increasingly be the case, sinocentric

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42428005)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:41 AM
Author: Smoky stage

180. But they’ve made most cars so gay that a Tesla is actually less gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42428100)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 12:45 PM
Author: swashbuckling macaca gas station

https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-debuts-all-electric-suv-concept/

"Electrified product portfolio to expand to around 70 models globally by 2025; including 15 new battery electric vehicles, of which, seven will be Toyota bZ models"

any doubts that toyota will pwn the fuck out of tesla?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42429851)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 1:34 PM
Author: hairraiser avocado cuckold

There's a small chance they could be the majority of automobiles sold in 2030. I would bet they are at ~30% by then. Average age of a car is about 11 years, so tack on 15-20 years to that to figure out when most cars on the road will be electric.

An underrated factor is that American incomes aren't following automobile price increases (which increase roughly at the rate of inflation). It's possible that this is a major drag on EV adoption, since they cost a lot more money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430034)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 1:51 PM
Author: saffron fragrant base french chef

once batteries get cheaper, elec cars should be a LOT cheaper....the drive train is so much simpler

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430073)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 3:32 PM
Author: hairraiser avocado cuckold

Batteries are already beating the estimates on the cost curve. The problem is that they are still expensive, and cost reductions encourage automakers to just put more batteries in the cars lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430435)



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Date: October 13th, 2021 11:47 PM
Author: Lascivious nudist partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#43268794)



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Date: October 14th, 2021 12:35 AM
Author: racy volcanic crater

I think 30% in 2030 is way too low of an estimate. I wouldn't be surprised if it is no longer possible to buy an ICE car by 2030. The cost of an electric car compared to an ICE car is dropping rapidly, and electric cars are already superior to ICE cars on most metrics other than price and driving range. Soon electric cars will be comparable or better to ICE cars by these metrics as well, at which point the ICE will be completely obsolete. It do agree that it will be much longer before there are no more ICE cars on the road, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#43268991)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 1:41 PM
Author: multi-colored citrine candlestick maker national

There's a very good chance that within 10 years we'll have ev batteries with at least twice the capacity and many times the charging speeding. Cheaper, too, of course as competition and economies of scale become big factors. At some point, the price will get low enough that with tax credits it'll be a no-brainer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430048)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 1:52 PM
Author: Indecent Boltzmann

3 years ago I was halfassedly shopping for a car and dismissed electric as not quite there yet. Now I wouldn't buy anything that isn't electric. Things move fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430079)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: violent cruise ship genital piercing

This isn't because of your new gig?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430174)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Indecent Boltzmann

Ok maybe a little

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430185)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 2:24 PM
Author: deranged native

Probably quicker in a bunch foreign countries that are not named the United States. For countries with smog problems it’s more urgent. Plus our economy remains dependent on oil in many more ways that a bunch of other places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42430214)



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Date: May 9th, 2021 9:20 PM
Author: Cerebral insanely creepy locus

So don’t buy a new a Honda Civic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#42431899)



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Date: October 13th, 2021 11:50 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion brethren

Never.

People forget that this “fad” already happened once in the late 1980s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4829865&forum_id=2#43268817)