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Starting to realize truly mastering German is a 10 year project

I'm C1 after 4 years of study, better than the vast majority...
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It’s too hard. Too many cases and conjugations. It&rsq...
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I've literally never seen an American youtuber who makes vid...
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I am ok with just being able to read it.
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What does c1 mean? Means you can pass an exam or can you act...
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I have 1-2 lessons in German every weekend, and we discuss d...
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It's also very good, including with accents, but Bavarian di...
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But you don't talk to natives in casual conversation? I'm...
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Yeah, I've had lessons with probably 50 tutors from this sit...
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Thx.
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Yeah, my motivation to essentially become a German living in...
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What made you pick German over other languages? What would y...
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It's the culture I most relate to. To give one example, I'm ...
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Germany's version of welfare is called Hartz IV, and it's no...
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Sounds like you're well on your way to becoming German
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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:36 PM
Author: crimson site psychic

I'm C1 after 4 years of study, better than the vast majority ever reach, but C2 will realistically take another 6 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468081)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:38 PM
Author: aqua hideous sex offender hunting ground

It’s too hard. Too many cases and conjugations. It’s very prestigious but the grammar seems so hard to an American English speaker.

It’d be different if I grew up speaking Norwegian or Danish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468090)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:41 PM
Author: crimson site psychic

I've literally never seen an American youtuber who makes videos about speaking German who was C2. This Australian polyglot girl seems to have made it, but she's very talented:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suS-JWPui-o&t=90s

I've got a knack for languages, or I wouldn't even try it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468101)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:44 PM
Author: Cerebral mentally impaired ticket booth

I am ok with just being able to read it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468113)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:44 PM
Author: Bistre racy meetinghouse bbw

What does c1 mean? Means you can pass an exam or can you actually talk to natives?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468119)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:46 PM
Author: crimson site psychic

I have 1-2 lessons in German every weekend, and we discuss difficult topics. But I sometimes use the wrong word, don't get the case right on articles, etc.

I know I'm C1 because I can read law and history books with no problem. Reading is the easiest part- the hard part is forming the sentences and getting the cases right yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468122)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:48 PM
Author: primrose massive church building



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:49 PM
Author: crimson site psychic

It's also very good, including with accents, but Bavarian dialect isn't just a different accent- it's actually different words. Which I don't know and am making no effort to learn- I've got my hands full with Hochdeutsch.

Swiss German shouldn't even be called German- it's just as different from regular German as Dutch or Danish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468131)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:56 PM
Author: Bistre racy meetinghouse bbw

But you don't talk to natives in casual conversation?

I'm three years into self studying Spanish. Have not tested yet but im confident I can pass c1. Can understand movies, news music etc pretty easily, even more academic content. My reading and writing is good although it's not my focus. But my speaking is still way behind. I can talk to teachers or professors but having casual convos with natives that don't speak English is difficult, I'm still slow at processing and I have too much accent. I hope I get better over time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468150)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 7:02 PM
Author: crimson site psychic

Yeah, I've had lessons with probably 50 tutors from this site in the 4 years I've been learning German.

https://www.italki.com/teachers/german?from%5B0%5D=DE&from%5B1%5D=AT&is_native=1

We make the usual small talk in addition to talking about politics, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468180)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:47 PM
Author: primrose massive church building



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:48 PM
Author: crimson site psychic

Thx.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468126)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:53 PM
Author: primrose massive church building



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Date: May 15th, 2021 7:01 PM
Author: crimson site psychic

Yeah, my motivation to essentially become a German living in America is why I'm confident I will stick with it to C2. It's not about learning "a language" for me- it's about learning German. No other language entices me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468171)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:52 PM
Author: Silver Stage Azn

What made you pick German over other languages? What would you advise others before selecting a language?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468138)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 6:59 PM
Author: crimson site psychic

It's the culture I most relate to. To give one example, I'm a huge fiscal conservative, and there's no one in politics in America who is. In Germany, even the leftist parties are fiscally conservative by American standards.

Plus, the society in general just works better- it's nice to watch the nightly news in German and see a society that isn't a basket case where everyone hates each other.

A final bonus is my grandma is German and my summer visits to her as a kid gave me a good accent. Didn't learn many words, but my mouth learned how to do things like pronounce the German "R."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468167)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 7:01 PM
Author: Razzmatazz beta volcanic crater gaping



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Date: May 15th, 2021 7:05 PM
Author: crimson site psychic

Germany's version of welfare is called Hartz IV, and it's not at all generous.

Germans don't like the refugees, but it's enormously expensive to deport someone back to Syria or whatever, and they have legal due process rights under international refugee treaties and the like. And many of them will just come back if deported.

There's really not an easy answer to some completely desperate person showing up in your country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468188)



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Date: May 15th, 2021 7:22 PM
Author: Razzmatazz beta volcanic crater gaping



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Date: May 15th, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: nubile dysfunction new version

Sounds like you're well on your way to becoming German

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4835459&forum_id=2#42468489)