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Beating the S&P long term is actually pretty easy if you're disciplined

Just invest in a basket of high-quality companies with solid...
Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night
  06/24/21
You are profoundly dumb
aggressive learning disabled hissy fit
  06/25/21
(guy who’s not going to beat the SP 500 long term eith...
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  06/24/21
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Effete Idiotic University
  06/24/21
(Guy who is butthurt he missed out on countless multi-bagger...
Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night
  06/24/21
I'm not butthurt. Do you know how many faggots like you I'v...
exhilarant famous landscape painting old irish cottage
  06/24/21
The market has been on fire since 2010. Every moron has made...
cobalt vigorous background story
  06/24/21
this book, written with thorough analysis and grasp of marke...
cobalt vigorous background story
  06/24/21
Cool, now go read the books written by Buffett, Lynch, and G...
Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night
  06/24/21
u literally just have to put all of your money into one stoc...
Bearded stock car
  06/24/21
(Blockbuster, Ford, GE, Sears, and IBM investor) Literall...
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clear plaza
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Very clear from your poast that you have no idea what you're...
Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night
  06/24/21
(guy who deludes himself that he's "looking at the[] un...
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mint cerebral rehab
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It can be done, but it’s really hard. Each company wou...
swashbuckling brass affirmative action
  06/24/21
Lol ok
aggressive learning disabled hissy fit
  06/25/21
op where do u get ur financial news
Bearded stock car
  06/24/21
Of course this is true in a historic bull market.
histrionic area
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"Oh man investing is so easy!" https://fred.stl...
mint cerebral rehab
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aggressive learning disabled hissy fit
  06/25/21
- we are in the retail trading golden age part II. ur insane...
Excitant messiness
  06/24/21
i miss irl zebra
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Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night
  06/24/21
Just an FYI: Behavioral finance researchers have gotten thei...
Opaque incel institution
  06/24/21
i remember someone poasted a few of those papers here do u k...
Bearded stock car
  06/24/21
I posted a bunch of Terrence Odean stuff. Look at this prime...
Opaque incel institution
  06/24/21
ty
Bearded stock car
  06/25/21
yeah this is obviously true to anyone with a brain like i...
low-t clown partner
  06/24/21
People just uncritically accept hypothetical constructs from...
Opaque incel institution
  06/24/21
Okay what should I be buying right now?
Know-it-all meetinghouse feces
  06/24/21
$csx $rkt
Excitant messiness
  06/24/21
$rkt lol
aromatic native pocket flask
  06/24/21
Good post. Why did you go with the backslash apostrophe in y...
Jade Immigrant Parlor
  06/24/21
beating the S&P is even easier if you're a top decile ma...
Seedy Crimson Dilemma
  06/24/21
Sure, but only 1% of day traders consistently make money. I'...
Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night
  06/24/21
HE’S SOLVED IT FOLKS!!! HOW TO BEAT THE MARKET W ONE...
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  06/24/21
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  06/24/21
OP I would gladly short your hand picked portfolio if I coul...
provocative macaca gas station
  06/24/21
lmao
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  06/25/21
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Date: June 24th, 2021 8:48 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night

Just invest in a basket of high-quality companies with solid moats and sticky services/products that show consistent sales growth of at least 10-15% per year with solid cash flow (the more the better) and HODL for years (do NOT trade). These include names like FAANG, Disney, Costco, Tesla, etc.

Buffett, Graham, Lynch, etc. all encourage people to have concentrated portfolios as long as they follow that relatively small basket of companies closely. Most people don't want to do that and they should absolutely just throw their money in indexes and not think twice. This is NOT the same as PMs that compete with S&P returns over a quarterly/annual basis, which is what people often site when they discourage individual investors to "try to beat the index." The priorities of PMs is not the same as long-term investors because they have a gun to their head every quarter to outperform.

A good balance is starting with general indexes, and then as you follow individual companies more and more and build conviction for their potential (so you don't panic sell on rips or dips - you should ONLY sell if you lose conviction for material reasons), and start DCAing into them over time. You don't have to dive hard into financial reports. Watch interviews with CEOs, make sure the business grows over time and why, think about why customers like their products anbd brand so much (even better if you like and use their products consistently), think about why their competitors aren't as good and probably won't, and make sure the product/service isn't a commodity that anyone can easily replicate quickly.

If you do not believe in any individual companies, then sure just keep your money parked in indexes. Being a more active investor (NOT a trader) is not as easy, obviously, but if you are the type of person that finds it interesting then you can absolutely generate alpha long-term because you are not chasing quarterly earnings nonsense. You will only know if you find it interesting if you actually start being more active. Give it a shot for a few months, consistently check news/updates on the companies you like on at least a weekly basis, and start small if it piques your interest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678066)



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Date: June 25th, 2021 3:31 AM
Author: aggressive learning disabled hissy fit

You are profoundly dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42683282)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 9:07 AM
Author: exhilarant famous landscape painting old irish cottage

(guy who’s not going to beat the SP 500 long term either absolutely or especially on a risk-adjusted basis)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678139)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 9:34 AM
Author: Effete Idiotic University



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678256)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 10:01 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night

(Guy who is butthurt he missed out on countless multi-baggers because he was too lazy to be more active in his long-term investment strategies and is rationalizing his ineptitude)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678392)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 10:15 AM
Author: exhilarant famous landscape painting old irish cottage

I'm not butthurt. Do you know how many faggots like you I've watched over the past decade lecture people about their approach or system only for them to get fucked in the ass? This never works for any of you. This has been studied and analyzed ad nauseum -- you are re-fighting wars that were lost twenty years ago. If you'd like to think you're generating alpha with these rudimentary investing ideas go for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678476)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:14 AM
Author: cobalt vigorous background story

The market has been on fire since 2010. Every moron has made money. Now do this over a 40 year period when the top companies will have changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678828)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 9:21 AM
Author: cobalt vigorous background story

this book, written with thorough analysis and grasp of markets, companies, and risk, explains in tremendous detail why OP is likely to be 100% wrong over a long term period

https://www.amazon.com/Investors-Manifesto-Prosperity-Armageddon-Everything/dp/1118073762

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678199)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 9:59 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night

Cool, now go read the books written by Buffett, Lynch, and Graham.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678381)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 9:23 AM
Author: Bearded stock car

u literally just have to put all of your money into one stock thats wicked good LJL @ the low T dorks ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678203)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 9:24 AM
Author: Fishy rough-skinned base brethren

(Blockbuster, Ford, GE, Sears, and IBM investor)

Literally half the companies OP listed are dangerously risky long term holds to have the majority of your retirement portfolio in.

FB, Tesla, Costco = companies still largely run and built by their messiah-like founders. Think of the 'I will kill you' email the Costco founder sent to his CEO or COO who wanted to raise hot dog prices by a few cents. We make fun of Zuckerberg and rightfully so but if anything he's been holding the insane SJWs his company has hired back, and has tried to maintain some degree of not being batshit lib without his staff revolting. Tesla is literally just Musk running his personal fiefdom for kicks. Take out these founders and replace them with the average McKinsey guy and these companies are going downhill ASAP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678208)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 9:31 AM
Author: clear plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678236)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 9:58 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night

Very clear from your poast that you have no idea what you're talking about and judge companies based on superficial headlines instead of looking at their underlying businesses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678377)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 10:17 AM
Author: exhilarant famous landscape painting old irish cottage

(guy who deludes himself that he's "looking at the[] underlying business")

Do you understand how deep you have to get into a business to be able to do this? It isn't reading the GAAP accounting. You cannot do this as a retail investor you lack the requisite access or connections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678494)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:01 AM
Author: Fishy rough-skinned base brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678744)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:57 AM
Author: cobalt vigorous background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42679033)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:58 AM
Author: mint cerebral rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42679037)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 12:04 PM
Author: swashbuckling brass affirmative action

It can be done, but it’s really hard. Each company would require two months of full time work and hustling to talk with employees.

Even then, you have the same problem hedge funds have, which is understanding how the world works. You can get a thorough understanding of how a company fits in the world, but 90% of its success or failure will come from the evolution of the world itself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42679074)



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Date: June 25th, 2021 3:28 AM
Author: aggressive learning disabled hissy fit

Lol ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42683269)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 10:08 AM
Author: Bearded stock car

op where do u get ur financial news

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678428)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 10:19 AM
Author: histrionic area

Of course this is true in a historic bull market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678504)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:04 AM
Author: mint cerebral rehab

"Oh man investing is so easy!"

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WALCL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678767)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:15 AM
Author: cobalt vigorous background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678834)



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Date: June 25th, 2021 3:26 AM
Author: aggressive learning disabled hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42683260)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:11 AM
Author: Excitant messiness

- we are in the retail trading golden age part II. ur insane if ur NOT trading rn

- "studies" showing SPY outperforms hedge fund managers are just bone-picking between academics and financiers

- ETFs are fine, but they aren't the savior bogleheads claim and if you are young, you can and should investment in single names

- the two most controversial things on the internet are bodyfat % estimations and technical analysis

- there are many people here who unironically advertise their cryptocurrency investments in obscure zebra coins or whatever and hold through 40% quarterly drawdowns, with no unique knowledge or insight, yet when it comes to equities they are too scared to make a call. Zebracoin and Vanguard lol. im not hating, no investment strategy is perfect for everyone (one of my big gripes with etf fanatics), i just find this very amusing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678816)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:18 AM
Author: aromatic native pocket flask

i miss irl zebra

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678844)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 2:04 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42679767)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:30 AM
Author: Opaque incel institution

Just an FYI: Behavioral finance researchers have gotten their hands on actual retail brokerage data covering 5-10 years of trades and demographic data.

Ultimately the data shows that it is possible to regularly beat the market, and that picking stocks/trading is a skill that can be developed. If you have a high SAT score or other high IQ, you are likely to do better in the markets. If you are the average XOer gifted with a high verbal IQ and the infinite wisdom of scholarship, you are likely to beat the markets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678882)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 12:58 PM
Author: Bearded stock car

i remember someone poasted a few of those papers here do u know where to find the links/have any

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42679375)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 5:00 PM
Author: Opaque incel institution

I posted a bunch of Terrence Odean stuff. Look at this primer on the behavior of individual investors: http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/odean/Papers%20current%20versions/behavior%20of%20individual%20investors.pdf

Basically, a lot of people beat the market, but a lot of people have weird trading biases that fuck them, and trading costs destroy returns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42680830)



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Date: June 25th, 2021 3:31 AM
Author: Bearded stock car

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42683281)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: low-t clown partner

yeah this is obviously true to anyone with a brain

like i don't even understand how the "conventional wisdom" that "you can't beat the market" even became a "thing" that people believe. why the fuck would this be the case, lol

it's like saying that it's not possible for the most talented poker players to have a higher expected value over the long term compared to average/above average poker players. why would anyone ever believe this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42680303)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 4:58 PM
Author: Opaque incel institution

People just uncritically accept hypothetical constructs from UChicago shitconomists

We even see long-term overperformance by fund managers, but they just increase their fees to swallow the gap over time. According to EMH, the overperformance part should be impossible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42680818)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:41 AM
Author: Know-it-all meetinghouse feces

Okay what should I be buying right now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678944)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: Excitant messiness

$csx $rkt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42679001)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:59 AM
Author: aromatic native pocket flask

$rkt

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42679047)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 11:44 AM
Author: Jade Immigrant Parlor

Good post. Why did you go with the backslash apostrophe in your moniker? Interesting aesthetic choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42678955)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 1:47 PM
Author: Seedy Crimson Dilemma

beating the S&P is even easier if you're a top decile market timer/trader

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42679661)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 2:04 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Queen Of The Night

Sure, but only 1% of day traders consistently make money. I'm advocating for long-term investing in companies with solid long-term growth and fundametals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42679759)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 3:20 PM
Author: aggressive learning disabled hissy fit

HE’S SOLVED IT FOLKS!!! HOW TO BEAT THE MARKET W ONE WEIRD TRICK!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42680270)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: aphrodisiac bawdyhouse roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42680288)



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Date: June 24th, 2021 5:03 PM
Author: provocative macaca gas station

OP I would gladly short your hand picked portfolio if I could capture the difference between you and SnP. With leverage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42680844)



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Date: June 25th, 2021 3:31 AM
Author: orchid market

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42683276)



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Date: June 25th, 2021 4:18 AM
Author: sticky sooty stain

A solid moat is critically important. You don't want corporate raiders to storm HQ and overtake the Board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42683327)



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Date: June 25th, 2021 6:49 PM
Author: aphrodisiac bawdyhouse roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4863973&forum_id=2#42686877)