if i'm blessed with children in the future then of course i'll do research before agreeing to have them injected with any vaccine. that being said, i have no reason to think that i wouldn't agree to most standard vaxxes that are tried and true. those decisions would also have to be made jointly with the father.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42827474)

seemed unnecessary when it rolled out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42827484)

i had chicken pox as a child which is odd now that i think about it since my parents almost definitely got me vaxxed for it. will have to ask.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42827490)

but that's the plan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42827507)

You can go be a guinea pig. I already had the disease. Why do you care so much if I got vaxxed or not? Aren’t you vaxxed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830401)

No, I’m not getting the COVID vaccine because I don’t need it. COVID is not a risk to me and I already had it. I’m not getting unnecessarily vaccinated for it. Cry and stamp your feet all you want. You got your guinea pig shots. I’m not getting any.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830431)

Can't find easy data on total hospital admissions for covid in the US, but I know at least 1 out of the 30 posters on xo was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830613)

Standing by for BUT MAYBE THIS ONE WILL!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830429)

They're just upset about covid vax b/c they want to believe Trump was right that it's nbd and its just the libs scaremongering.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830485)

You think it's just a coincidence that you're against *only the covid vax when all the other right wingers are similarly against only the covid vax? Nothing to do with politics b/c you're a free thinker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830573)

And, again, we SIMPLY DONT KNOW the data on COVID vax side effects, both short and long-term. We don’t even know how effective it is in the long term and if boosters are needed, etc. The vax just came out a few months ago and is still in trials.

Even if I could be 100% sure the vax wouldn’t give me any negative noticeable side effects, I wouldn’t take it. I don’t need it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830619)

*cue lib foot-stomping and screeching*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830527)

Completely different ball games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830577)

Is that right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830699)

Edit: this one is pretty decent explanation

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2770485

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830721)

it doesn't tell cells near the injection site, the spike proteins show up everywhere.

if the spike protein from the mrna gene therapy doesn't completely match the new spike protein from the next strain of the cold, the vaccine does nothing. this is why flu vaccines generally aren't effective and why there has never been a cold (coronavirus) vaccine before.

additionally, this vax (like all vaccines) train your immune system to respond with the innate immune response and not the adaptive cell response, leaving you weak to actual dangerous diseases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830730)

Edit: The reason why just your deltoid (instead of your entire body) is sore is b/c that's where the action is taking place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830752)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068582/

STIMULATION OF IMMUNITY BY VACCINES

As with any challenge to the immune system, the body must first detect the threat whether it is a pathogenic agent or an immunization. This initial detection typically is done by the innate immune system; although, B-cells may also perform this function. This detection process begins when the immune system recognizes epitopes on antigens. Epitopes are small subregions on the antigens that simulate immune recognition.

Multiple components of the innate immune system will then respond to this challenge. These components of innate immunity will opsonize or bind to the agent and aid in its engulfment by antigen-presenting cells such as macrophages or monocytes. These antigen-presenting cell(s) will then process the antigens from this pathogenic agent and insert the processed antigen along with the MHC protein onto the surface on the antigen-presenting cell.[10]

If it is a viral antigen, the antigen will be bound with MHC I protein and presented by the antigen-presenting cell to a CD8 cell which will likely trigger cell-mediated immunity. If it is a bacterial or parasitic antigen, the antigen will be bound with MHC II protein and presented by the antigen-presenting cell to a CD4 cell which will likely trigger antibody-mediated immunity.[1]

also the reason why your deltoid is sore is because you took a needle jab into the muscle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830985)

EPAH, please respond? I think these conturds need more schooling on the REAL SCIENCE(TM)(R).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42831010)

STIMULATION OF IMMUNITY BY VACCINES

As with any challenge to the immune system, the body must first detect the threat whether it is a pathogenic agent or an immunization. This initial detection typically is done by the innate immune system;

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42835715)

This is why the side effect profile is different for mRNA v. Adenovirus vaccines. You get stuff like you would get from a viral infection from adenovirus vaccines (GBS, blood clots) because you are actually giving someone a virus. mRNA have a different function so you get stuff like heart issues, uterin issues etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830694)

Edit: you added the second paragraph, but I don't think the hypothesis is that the mRNA runs rampant and attacks your heart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830723)

How about some articles on this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830770)

STIMULATION OF IMMUNITY BY VACCINES

As with any challenge to the immune system, the body must first detect the threat whether it is a pathogenic agent or an immunization. This initial detection typically is done by the innate immune system; although, B-cells may also perform this function. This detection process begins when the immune system recognizes epitopes on antigens. Epitopes are small subregions on the antigens that simulate immune recognition.

Multiple components of the innate immune system will then respond to this challenge. These components of innate immunity will opsonize or bind to the agent and aid in its engulfment by antigen-presenting cells such as macrophages or monocytes. These antigen-presenting cell(s) will then process the antigens from this pathogenic agent and insert the processed antigen along with the MHC protein onto the surface on the antigen-presenting cell.[10]

If it is a viral antigen, the antigen will be bound with MHC I protein and presented by the antigen-presenting cell to a CD8 cell which will likely trigger cell-mediated immunity. If it is a bacterial or parasitic antigen, the antigen will be bound with MHC II protein and presented by the antigen-presenting cell to a CD4 cell which will likely trigger antibody-mediated immunity.[1]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830981)

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2770485

The cause of myocarditis is not entirely clear, but basically (my theory) it’s an overreaction by the body which causes the new cells to attack stuff they should not. Especially with the dose levels and two shot regiment in healthy young people (and prior infected).

Personally, I think the J&J is the way to go for the young. It should give them all the protection they need with a side effect profile like a more traditional vaccine. GBS is less common than in Covid infection for example. And blood clots I assume it’s the same. Unfortunately, Pfizer is all that is approved for 12-17 and everyone pushed the mRNA as “better” — which are are for the target audience (old, sick etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42830750)

"These mRNA 'vaccines' that very literally aren't actually 'vaccines' at all in the traditional sense (they don't even purport to prevent active infection in 'vaccinated' people with the real viral agent for starters), and which feature novel medical technology that has literally never been widely used before in humans -- again, unlike real traditional vaccines that have essentially relied on the same fundamental medical principle for hundreds of years at this point -- despite decades of experimental testing (because the technology always had too many observable negative side effects in small scale settings to qualify for large scale clinical studies) are undoubtedly safe and are definitely totally the same as real traditional vaccines and will undoubtedly behave exactly the same way in the human body. They're just like regular vaccines and you're literally an idiot or a racist/homophobe if you question that! Trust the Science(TM), you stupid bigot!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42831003)

Do you think you’re right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42833220)

That's my #1 argument against the vaxxx at the moment- real sickos who should not voice opinions anywhere but in Protective Custody- are telling me to get the vaxxx.

You need to be locked down (in prison) for real.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42833260)

In the meantime imagine the profound hatred he must have for the world to do what he has done to his own genes and aside from that, to his children.

You can be certain that avoidance of his counsel is the best guide to health and wellbeing in life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42833304)

seriously, if the CCP is actually paying you to poast this shit then you should work on your english vernacular to be at least a little bit convincing. you're going to end up in a hole someday if you keep this up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4883809&forum_id=2#42843089)