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Israel Health Ministry: Vaccine only 16% effective against Delta

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqVAiPXbJc I thought it wa...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
This is something that was entirely predictable. The &qu...
aromatic chartreuse round eye
  07/23/21
MFCR
sooty shitlib
  07/24/21
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razzle-dazzle red private investor
  07/25/21
Seems like you only get the short term immunity, not the lon...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
This can’t be real
exhilarant business firm cuckoldry
  07/23/21
It is. Those vaccinated in January, it’s 16%.
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
I’ll look more into this Just means they’re g...
exhilarant business firm cuckoldry
  07/23/21
That’s how Pharma plans to make money. Don’t cu...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
Competitors have an incentive to cure.
honey-headed fear-inspiring kitchen dopamine
  07/23/21
If I May, And an even bigger incentive to collude
adventurous impertinent multi-billionaire
  07/24/21
It will be fun watching US try to force biyearly boosters on...
Comical casino
  07/23/21
...
exhilarant business firm cuckoldry
  07/23/21
Ljl at this planet
bearded misunderstood shrine famous landscape painting
  07/24/21
Chinese social credit system with same consequences if you d...
razzmatazz keepsake machete
  07/24/21
A Youtube link?
Gold histrionic pit
  07/23/21
It’s on the Israeli Health Ministry website. Look it...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
do you have reuters/cnn/something actually trust worthy?
racy godawful selfie becky
  07/23/21
...
exhilarant business firm cuckoldry
  07/23/21
Cannot tell if serious. It’s in WSJ, Forbes, Bloomber...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
To be fair, Actually lol’d at this, ty
vivacious address
  07/24/21
how relevant is "infection" though
bat-shit-crazy elastic band abode
  07/23/21
Pretty fucking relevant as we were sold on 95% effective aga...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
did they say that or was it deaths, hospitalization
bat-shit-crazy elastic band abode
  07/23/21
They did say that: Section V. E. https://www.fda.gov/m...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
very misleading title. in any case, it does seem like va...
Navy exciting background story point
  07/23/21
Title is not misleading at all. Biden is jumping up and ...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
yeah one would most likely need booster shot within 4 months...
Navy exciting background story point
  07/23/21
It's even worse in that no one ever implied before that boos...
Comical casino
  07/23/21
tbf, it is possible that the need for booster was inconclusi...
Navy exciting background story point
  07/23/21
I mean, this is why it takes 10 years or more for FDA to app...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
to be fair, boosters were previously predicted to deal with ...
Bateful tank boiling water
  07/25/21
So if you are young, you can get Covid have a 99.99% chance ...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
Dude even CNN is fact checking Biden on this fraud https...
Wonderful bat shit crazy orchestra pit queen of the night
  07/23/21
Covid-19 vaccines Calling on Americans to get vaccinated ag...
exhilarant business firm cuckoldry
  07/23/21
OOC, what are they saying about hospitalization rate after 6...
Navy exciting background story point
  07/23/21
80s or so. Graph is on the last page. We were sold on effe...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
Vax is essentially ineffective against Delta. Hospitalizatio...
rough-skinned site
  07/23/21
I am a fully vaccinated provaxxer, but things are not lookin...
Navy exciting background story point
  07/23/21
returns to 95% effectiveness with monthly boosters
Out-of-control church building clown
  07/23/21
well im certainly not an idiot so sign me up!
racy godawful selfie becky
  07/23/21
Time to mask up, lockdown and blame the people who have not ...
Bipolar property sex offender
  07/23/21
Yes Not sure why this is so difficult for trumpmos to acc...
exhilarant business firm cuckoldry
  07/23/21
theyve been brainwashed by Fox News
racy godawful selfie becky
  07/23/21
ljl @ vaxmos
arousing hairy legs
  07/23/21
dont worry theyll all be gone soon
racy godawful selfie becky
  07/23/21
Ok so I just watched it So basically the entire narrative...
exhilarant business firm cuckoldry
  07/23/21
everything they say is a lie. everything.
racy godawful selfie becky
  07/23/21
God only knows what’s gonna be in those boosters my fr...
exhilarant business firm cuckoldry
  07/23/21
...
pontificating black woman
  07/23/21
No, it’s basically developing into another flu, which ...
Charismatic Stage Pervert
  07/23/21
...
obsidian gas station half-breed
  07/23/21
Except the msm, government officials, and big pharma aren&rs...
exhilarant business firm cuckoldry
  07/23/21
Actually it seems like establishment Dems are cooling on cov...
Charismatic Stage Pervert
  07/23/21
No it doesnt
Abusive stage psychic
  07/24/21
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vivacious address
  07/24/21
Biden's been harping on NO BOOSTERS and NO LOCKDOWNS.
Charismatic Stage Pervert
  07/24/21
it is literally just the flu. it has always been just the fl...
racy godawful selfie becky
  07/23/21
Or you can get infected, and be fine indefinitely after you ...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
"Still 91 % effective in preventing serious illness&quo...
pink sadistic senate degenerate
  07/23/21
Unfortunately the rhetoric has almost entirely been "yo...
talented olive stead masturbator
  07/23/21
Lol. There is absolutely zero reason for anyone not at risk ...
Comical casino
  07/25/21
So is not being able to collect social security.
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/23/21
Our office is already changing the return to office policy b...
Comical casino
  07/24/21
The implications are fairly interesting. The first is so...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/24/21
Good post - glad 2 c u back poasting brother
aromatic chartreuse round eye
  07/25/21
8. Venues that require proof of vaccination or a negative te...
Sapphire kink-friendly nibblets corner
  07/25/21
Yep.
Comical casino
  07/25/21
why are they saying that 99% of the hospitalizations are ppl...
Lascivious effete coffee pot
  07/24/21
They are lying. They can’t know because they don&rsqu...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/24/21
>they intentionally do not track break through cases or v...
Motley Headpube Alpha
  07/25/21
This study is being criticized for having very bad data. htt...
Spectacular Shimmering Locus
  07/24/21
Then explain the UK numbers? And wouldn’t the vaccina...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/24/21
I'm not taking sides on this since i haven't looked at any o...
Spectacular Shimmering Locus
  07/24/21
Unless they have an agenda. Either isreal is wrong (that t...
Soul-stirring blood rage
  07/24/21
even if the data is correct, one needs to adjust for all sig...
Navy exciting background story point
  07/25/21
all in all, I really don't care about the issue enough to re...
Navy exciting background story point
  07/25/21
XO: jews are liars also XO: trust the jews
Motley Headpube Alpha
  07/25/21
this only holds if the non-vaxxers not getting tested were h...
brass garrison juggernaut
  07/25/21
anecdotally I'm seeing a lot of people posting about how the...
aromatic chartreuse round eye
  07/25/21
I know someone who was vaccinated and got COVID. Does it see...
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  07/25/21


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Date: July 23rd, 2021 5:53 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqVAiPXbJc

I thought it was bad, but this is terrible. Those vaccinated in January, 16% effective against infection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831258)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:26 PM
Author: aromatic chartreuse round eye

This is something that was entirely predictable.

The "Vaccine" in this case is more of a gene therapy that teaches the body a shortcut to produce a molecule that interferes with the virus, rather than actually mapping the virus and developing a comprehensive immunological response.

It's the same thing as getting the answers to a physics or math problem, getting it right, then being unable to solve a slightly different problem due to not knowing the theory and actual mechanisms of solving the equation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831983)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 12:24 PM
Author: sooty shitlib

MFCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42834536)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 1:55 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle red private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42838792)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 5:56 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

Seems like you only get the short term immunity, not the long term T-cell immunity from the vaccine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831270)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 6:33 PM
Author: exhilarant business firm cuckoldry

This can’t be real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831463)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:14 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

It is. Those vaccinated in January, it’s 16%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831681)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:29 PM
Author: exhilarant business firm cuckoldry

I’ll look more into this

Just means they’re going to push the booster shots HARD if this is true though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831766)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:31 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

That’s how Pharma plans to make money. Don’t cure, treat. Monetize vaccines … never thought possible, but if you make them specific enough ….

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831775)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 10:08 PM
Author: honey-headed fear-inspiring kitchen dopamine

Competitors have an incentive to cure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832447)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 11:59 AM
Author: adventurous impertinent multi-billionaire

If I May,

And an even bigger incentive to collude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42834397)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:38 PM
Author: Comical casino

It will be fun watching US try to force biyearly boosters on the entire populace too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831809)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:26 PM
Author: exhilarant business firm cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831984)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 8:02 AM
Author: bearded misunderstood shrine famous landscape painting

Ljl at this planet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42833843)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 1:03 PM
Author: razzmatazz keepsake machete

Chinese social credit system with same consequences if you don’t show your updated “tags” twice a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42834720)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 6:38 PM
Author: Gold histrionic pit

A Youtube link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831490)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:13 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

It’s on the Israeli Health Ministry website. Look it up yourself.

https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/reports/vaccine-efficacy-safety-follow-up-committee/he/files_publications_corona_two-dose-vaccination-data.pdf

And the youtube is Dr. John Campbell who is a polar opposite of an anti-vax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831678)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: racy godawful selfie becky

do you have reuters/cnn/something actually trust worthy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832002)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 10:00 PM
Author: exhilarant business firm cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832431)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 10:31 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

Cannot tell if serious. It’s in WSJ, Forbes, Bloomberg, but they don’t highlight the 16% number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832585)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 1:05 PM
Author: vivacious address

To be fair,

Actually lol’d at this, ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42834736)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 6:39 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy elastic band abode

how relevant is "infection" though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831495)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:15 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

Pretty fucking relevant as we were sold on 95% effective against infection in the study. And FDA said it would not approve any vaccine less than 50%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831693)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:17 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy elastic band abode

did they say that or was it deaths, hospitalization

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831700)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:22 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

They did say that:

Section V. E.

https://www.fda.gov/media/139638/download

Lots of press on it too.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/vaccines/fda-to-require-at-least-50-efficacy-for-covid-19-vaccines-wsj

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831735)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:42 PM
Author: Navy exciting background story point

very misleading title.

in any case, it does seem like vaccine provides you with only ~4 months of good immunity, which is not bad but not as good as we thought.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831829)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:45 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

Title is not misleading at all.

Biden is jumping up and down no boosters needed. Unvax spreading. Etc. that is all misleading.

Right now all those healthcare workers and others in the first round have 16% protection against symptomatic infection (which means they can spread).

Those infected with SARS1 had immunity 17 years later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831844)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:47 PM
Author: Navy exciting background story point

yeah one would most likely need booster shot within 4 months



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831850)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:47 PM
Author: Comical casino

It's even worse in that no one ever implied before that boosters would ever be required. If people thought they'd have to do this every 4-6 months, or if they even knew the number of breakthrough cases, hardly anyone would have gotten vaxxed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831851)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:51 PM
Author: Navy exciting background story point

tbf, it is possible that the need for booster was inconclusive at that time.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831868)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:54 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

I mean, this is why it takes 10 years or more for FDA to approve a vaccine ….

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831884)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 1:36 PM
Author: Bateful tank boiling water

to be fair, boosters were previously predicted to deal with variants, not to boost the original covid shot immunity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42838731)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:56 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

So if you are young, you can get Covid have a 99.99% chance of survival and 99.9% of NBD and be good for at least 17 years or more, or you can get a shot every quarter that will fuck you up for the rest of your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831893)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:57 PM
Author: Wonderful bat shit crazy orchestra pit queen of the night

Dude even CNN is fact checking Biden on this fraud

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/fact-check-biden-cnn-town-hall-july/index.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831894)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:44 PM
Author: exhilarant business firm cuckoldry

Covid-19 vaccines

Calling on Americans to get vaccinated against Covid-19, Biden said, "If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in the ICU unit and you're not going to die." In another exchange moments later, Biden said that even if vaccinated people do "catch the virus," they are "not likely to get sick."

But then, during a third exchange, Biden said that since the vaccines "cover" the highly transmissible Delta variant of the virus: "You're not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations."

Lord have mercy. This man needs to be put down

Libs explain yourselves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832085)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:48 PM
Author: Navy exciting background story point

OOC, what are they saying about hospitalization rate after 6 months?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831859)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:54 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

80s or so. Graph is on the last page. We were sold on effectively 100%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831882)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:59 PM
Author: rough-skinned site

Vax is essentially ineffective against Delta. Hospitalization and severe illness rates are only slightly better among the vaxxed than the unvaccinated. Those with the J&J vax have essentially no protection whatsoever, and Pfizer/Moderna are just slightly better than norhing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831905)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:04 PM
Author: Navy exciting background story point

I am a fully vaccinated provaxxer, but things are not looking too good with this delta and also potentially lambda.

lol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831923)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 7:58 PM
Author: Out-of-control church building clown

returns to 95% effectiveness with monthly boosters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831901)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:29 PM
Author: racy godawful selfie becky

well im certainly not an idiot so sign me up!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831996)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:00 PM
Author: Bipolar property sex offender

Time to mask up, lockdown and blame the people who have not got “vaccinated”.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831908)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:05 PM
Author: exhilarant business firm cuckoldry

Yes

Not sure why this is so difficult for trumpmos to accept

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831926)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: racy godawful selfie becky

theyve been brainwashed by Fox News

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832005)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:12 PM
Author: arousing hairy legs

ljl @ vaxmos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831943)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:28 PM
Author: racy godawful selfie becky

dont worry theyll all be gone soon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831990)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:24 PM
Author: exhilarant business firm cuckoldry

Ok so I just watched it

So basically the entire narrative that the vaxxed are protected from covid and spreading it to others is hogwash, but at least the vax protects you from getting seriously ill (although that too wanes with time), meaning:

welcome to getting booster shots for the rest of your life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831979)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:28 PM
Author: racy godawful selfie becky

everything they say is a lie. everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42831989)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: exhilarant business firm cuckoldry

God only knows what’s gonna be in those boosters my friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832006)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 8:40 PM
Author: pontificating black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832053)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 10:13 PM
Author: Charismatic Stage Pervert

No, it’s basically developing into another flu, which millions get “boosters” for every year. Or it will become less virulent over time like other coronaviruses, which nobody gets boosters for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832474)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: obsidian gas station half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832480)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 10:17 PM
Author: exhilarant business firm cuckoldry

Except the msm, government officials, and big pharma aren’t treating this like the flu…at all

Enjoy your mandatory booster shots next year

We also hope you enjoy the next Covid lockdown this fall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832505)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Charismatic Stage Pervert

Actually it seems like establishment Dems are cooling on covid hysteria. I agree the MSM is insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832526)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 12:15 PM
Author: Abusive stage psychic

No it doesnt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42834482)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 1:06 PM
Author: vivacious address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42834742)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 1:07 PM
Author: Charismatic Stage Pervert

Biden's been harping on NO BOOSTERS and NO LOCKDOWNS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42834752)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 10:31 PM
Author: racy godawful selfie becky

it is literally just the flu. it has always been just the flu. ive been telling you this since March 2020

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832583)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 10:29 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

Or you can get infected, and be fine indefinitely after you recover.

The reinfection rate is tiny, and so far they have identified only a handful of people who died when reinfected (most notably an 89 year old cancer patient).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832572)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 10:38 PM
Author: pink sadistic senate degenerate

"Still 91 % effective in preventing serious illness"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832619)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 10:46 PM
Author: talented olive stead masturbator

Unfortunately the rhetoric has almost entirely been "you and your 13 year old need to get the vax because otherwise you'll spread it around" not "it'll make you less sick when you do get it"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832653)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Comical casino

Lol. There is absolutely zero reason for anyone not at risk of death from a COVID to get vaxxed. You can still spread it to grandma and be a grandma killer. So Stay. The. Fuck. Home. Sheep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42838979)



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Date: July 23rd, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

So is not being able to collect social security.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42832775)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 12:34 PM
Author: Comical casino

Our office is already changing the return to office policy based on “new information.” They didn’t say what the new information is.

Edit: also the change came out Friday so would not be surprised if it was related to Israel data

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42834591)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 2:44 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

The implications are fairly interesting.

The first is sort of “they must have known” one which is the phrase “fully” vaccinated. Sure, the mRNA are two shots, but you could get J&J and be “fully” vaccinated. The use of “fully” means they knew boosters would be needed.

The second is, unless you do constant boosters, it still seems like any shot gives pretty good, fairly long term, protection against death or hospitalization. The main difference in the vaccine studies was mRNA had an advantage in infection. Functionally no one with any vaccine died and very few ended up in the hospital.

The third is that immunity passports should be given to those with prior infection. Frankly, those people are probably better off in ALL MEASURES, against the vaccinated.

The fourth is an unknown. If you get infected with COVID after a vaccine, do you get the same long term durable immunity you do if you get infected without a vaccine? If not, vaccines are counter productive for those not at risk.

The fifth is another unknown, under FDA regulations, if the Israel data is correct, no vaccine will be approved under the existing regulations. Is the FDA going to cuck and approve the vaccines anyway? Does J&J get approved? Or just Pfizer? Or just Pfizer and Moderna?

The sixth is another interesting one. The UK data shows much better protection than Israel. The only medical difference is that the UK had a much longer window between shots (the theory being one shot kept you out of the hospital so get as many one shots and then fill in second shots later). The time was like 2-4 months gap v. 3-4 weeks in Israel (studies for authorization were done at 3 week gap). Whether this is significant or not, we don’t know because UK does not have vaccinated by month data (US has nothing because they don’t want to show it sucks, but the actual study populations from the original tests will have to be updated for approvals).

Finally, none of this changes anything other than to reinforce there is no need for mandates, only those on social security have anything to worry about; and let’s stay back to normal. But it does show another broken promise (in the long list of broke promises): vaccines don’t do shit for infection or symptomatic infection so they won’t “stop the spread.”

PS get J&J if you are forced to get anything. And Sinovac is the best one for young people. I’d actually take that if it were approved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42835109)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 1:22 AM
Author: aromatic chartreuse round eye

Good post - glad 2 c u back poasting brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42837512)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 1:34 AM
Author: Sapphire kink-friendly nibblets corner

8. Venues that require proof of vaccination or a negative test should require negative test from vaxed too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42837529)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 2:53 PM
Author: Comical casino

Yep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42838984)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 2:46 PM
Author: Lascivious effete coffee pot

why are they saying that 99% of the hospitalizations are ppl without the vaccine in america

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42835114)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 2:54 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

They are lying. They can’t know because they don’t track it (they intentionally do not track break through cases or vaccinated hospitalizations). UK it’s 40% or 60% of hospitalized are vaccinated depending on how you look at it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42835140)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 1:29 AM
Author: Motley Headpube Alpha

>they intentionally do not track break through cases or vaccinated hospitalizations

Dude weren't you on here like one week ago criticizing the cdc for ONLY tracking breakthrough hospitalizations?

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

>As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42837520)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 2:54 PM
Author: Spectacular Shimmering Locus

This study is being criticized for having very bad data. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-study-claims-major-drop-in-vaccine-protection-experts-dont-believe-it/

The basic claim is non-vaxxed people are also less likely to care about covid and thus don't get tested. Ergo, can't do the same type of population level comparisons that were previously available before vaxxes were widely administered because mostly only vaxxed people will get tested, which skews relative proportion results

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42835137)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 2:57 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

Then explain the UK numbers? And wouldn’t the vaccinated be LESS likely to get tested because they THINK they are immune?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42835148)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Spectacular Shimmering Locus

I'm not taking sides on this since i haven't looked at any of the studies and don't care enough to. Just saying the data has been called bad due to speculation about confounding factors. They also claim that the numbers don't seem to reflect observed reality (who is showing up in hospitals), but I didn't point that out before because anecdotal data is rarely scientifically valid and it seems counter productive for medical professionals to even mention anecdote in refute of collective data

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42835258)



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Date: July 24th, 2021 3:36 PM
Author: Soul-stirring blood rage

Unless they have an agenda. Either isreal is wrong (that the data is actually wrong which seems vanishingly unlikely) or others are lying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42835325)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 1:30 AM
Author: Navy exciting background story point

even if the data is correct, one needs to adjust for all sig confounders for the data to induce a valid conclusion.

so the data may be correct and Israel is not lying, but the conclusion can still be very wrong.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42837522)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 1:35 AM
Author: Navy exciting background story point

all in all, I really don't care about the issue enough to read that study as it won't change anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42837530)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 1:31 AM
Author: Motley Headpube Alpha

XO: jews are liars

also XO: trust the jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42837525)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 1:44 PM
Author: brass garrison juggernaut

this only holds if the non-vaxxers not getting tested were having such mild symptoms that they ignored it, which is another argument against vaccination

i bet even the most staunch anti-vaxxer would seek medical treatment if they were getting truly viruspwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42838763)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 2:02 AM
Author: aromatic chartreuse round eye

anecdotally I'm seeing a lot of people posting about how their vaccinated friends or family members got Covid. This is in one of the most heavily vaccinated areas in the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42837560)



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Date: July 25th, 2021 1:38 PM
Author: Plum trailer park

I know someone who was vaccinated and got COVID. Does it seem like those people are getting mild symptoms though, or full blown Bat AIDS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4884306&forum_id=2#42838741)