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lmao FTX was either hacked or is exit rugging idiot users
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:21 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault Crypto twitter is tracking 45,000 BTC ($2bn) that left FTX wallets and has been on the move for three days. Every ten minutes it is sent to a new address, then ten minutes later it's sent to another address with slightly less money. It's doing this over and over and splitting into tens of thousands of wallets. This is called tumbling and it's what hackers to do "clean" hacked funds so they can eventually withdraw them IRL. Most likely someone hacked an FTX wallet or there is a rogue employee who stole the funds.
(((SBF))) put out a nonsensical tweet "explaining" the situation saying they were "consolidating" to make withdraws more efficient. this makes zero sense- it's doing the opposite of consolidation. it's stashing bitcoin across tens of thousands of address. this is clearly not an internal transaction. even if he is being honest, it means FTX is keeping TWO BILLION DOLLARS of investor funds in a hot wallet. LMAO.
SBF is the fraudmo that exeunt loves. he runs FTX which is in bed with Tether to washtrade crypto. the head of compliance for SBF formerly worked at an online betting website that was shut down because the company was cheating and looking at customer's cards to bet against them. SBF is also a huge dipshit moron that doesn't understand crypto (last year the head of uniswap called him out for being a brainlet who literally didn't understand how an ethereum contract worked)
LJL if you have money in SOL, FTT, or on FTX |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 11:29 PM Author: Floppy Stage Fanboi Date: September 13th, 2021 11:21 PM Author: cuttingtable (unvax'd at least)
Crypto twitter is tracking 45,000 BTC ($2bn) that left FTX wallets and has been on the move for three days. Every ten minutes it is sent to a new address, then ten minutes later it's sent to another address with slightly less money. It's doing this over and over and splitting into tens of thousands of wallets. This is called tumbling and it's what hackers to do "clean" hacked funds so they can eventually withdraw them IRL. Most likely someone hacked an FTX wallet or there is a rogue employee who stole the funds. (((SBF))) put out a nonsensical tweet "explaining" the situation saying they were "consolidating" to make withdraws more efficient. this makes zero sense- it's doing the opposite of consolidation. it's stashing bitcoin across tens of thousands of address. this is clearly not an internal transaction. even if he is being honest, it means FTX is keeping TWO BILLION DOLLARS of investor funds in a hot wallet. LMAO.
SBF is the fraudmo that exeunt loves. he runs FTX which is in bed with Tether to washtrade crypto. the head of compliance for SBF formerly worked at an online betting website that was shut down because the company was cheating and looking at customer's cards to bet against them. SBF is also a huge dipshit moron that doesn't understand crypto (last year the head of uniswap called him out for being a brainlet who literally didn't understand how an ethereum contract worked)
LJL if you have money in SOL, FTT, or on FTX
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112609) |
Date: September 13th, 2021 11:22 PM Author: chocolate hominid forum Oh fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112612) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:23 PM Author: peach tantric home Fuck. Are we fucked? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112624) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:26 PM Author: Disturbing Giraffe Coldplay Fan calm down
OP doesn't know anything, and his post is just like the retards saying bitcoin was going to $0 because of tether |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:28 PM Author: peach tantric home Seems worse than that but I trust you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112659) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:42 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault if FTX admits that the money is gone they are insolvent. you know the fractional reserve banking bullshit banks pull? SBF is doing that x100 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112743) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:29 PM Author: Iridescent abusive therapy if this is true and the SEC's comments are true, we could lose 30% total market value in a day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112667) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:27 PM Author: stimulating hall hissy fit What do we make of this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112658) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:37 PM Author: thirsty metal newt it's a flame retard who retweets "bitfinexed" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112713) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:28 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault https://twitter.com/ncweaver/status/1437553612729696259
Nicholas Weaver @ncweaver · 4h This is frankly bizarre, and I'm convinced 90% certain that FTX got hacked. We are seeing a slug of $2B worth of Bitcoin being passed through a "peeling chain", each step takes off a little (a few bucks to a couple thousand) with the rest remaining intact.
Some of the peeled Bitcoin is to new wallets. Some is actually to very old active wallets (e.g. this: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3Q34R8mDakAhFDzrze8TCZcqjKtSuerc8E )
My suspicion: Stealing $2B in Bitcoin is easy. Laundering $2B is hard. But there is an advantage: FTX can't admit the theft...
If FTX admits it they implode in a nanosecond as they are insolvent. So they keep quiet and deny. In the meantime, the thief's cashout strategy: Peel off Bitcoin. Some of it to just garbage wallets. Some of it is Robin Hodled and sent to existing wallets.
Heck, waste most of it in the end, but keep about 1% and throw that through mixers, chain swaps, and other techniques. And keep doing it just $1k at a time. And walk away with with a huge paycheck.
And if FTX dares complain, send the rest to 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE
The alternate interpretation, that this is FTX in offline-signature mode doing some peeling, is lunacy. It would mean they didn't just move MOST of the slug into cold storage and split off the amount to distribute in a separate hunk first, which is frankly bizarre.
Plus, peeling is O(N) time, so it takes forever. Doing a tree split is O(lg(N)) time to complete.
Also, if this is an automated system that dumped a TON of signatures, they could easily stop the chain: Just have replacement transaction signed, just a little ahead (you have the TXID needed to do it), with a high fee. Now it goes to that transaction, and the chain dies.
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Logi Song @Logisong1 · 4h Replying to @ncweaver Lol this would literally be the end of Tether if true, even before law enforcement got anywhere
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:30 PM Author: Iridescent abusive therapy sorry i dont take ppl with pronouns in their twitter bio seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112675) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:31 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault TBF that's 90% of cryptotwitter
good 30-40% are actual trannies |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:33 PM Author: Iridescent abusive therapy jfc
and we literally have coins named FTM now |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:34 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112698) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:34 PM Author: Scarlet heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43115114) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:31 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault you know how exeunt made you guys millions?
this is the post that allows you to keep millions by getting the fuck out of this scam platform and associated shillcoins (SOL, SRM) RIGHT FUCKING NOW before everyone else catches on and SBF has to come clean |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:31 PM Author: thirsty metal newt "lol at you for making a fortune"
this guy is still so mad about how rich we are all getting in crypto. he cannot stand it. |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:34 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault lmao don't listen to me and see what happens little pumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112695) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:36 PM Author: thirsty metal newt I already made it. if crypto goes to 0 tomorrow I would still never work again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112707) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:34 PM Author: anal hyperactive death wish This is absolutely devastating if true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112699) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:35 PM Author: cracking school cafeteria idiot hmm when i just open ftx.us it asked me for log in again which is weird, usually doesnt do that
moving my BS link from there to phantom |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:38 PM Author: titillating french chef crackhouse Better to put on Ledger? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112722) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:43 PM Author: cracking school cafeteria idiot im too kike to spend 100usd on a ledger but maybe i shld (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112745) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:44 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault get a trezor instead
ledge got hacked and people today are still getting threatening emails saying they will kill them if they dont deposit xxxx btc into an address |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:39 PM Author: Iridescent abusive therapy eject! eject! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112725) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:41 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault move that shit to cold storage or better yet sell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112734) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:37 PM Author: Cream ticket booth If he's distributing it some active wallets it will just be a matter of time until someone innocent says, "hey I got some bitcoin in this wallet!" Right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112716) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:38 PM Author: Iridescent abusive therapy could just be gator airdropping ppl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112721) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:40 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault yeah tens of thousands of brand new wallets - maybe someone will get lucky and guess the seed! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112733) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:43 PM Author: Cream ticket booth They said some of the money is going to wallets that have been very active. Even if these are exclusively hackers wallets, it would be pretty easy to find out who some of them belong to. This seems like much ado about nothing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112746) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:45 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault hackers tumble money into legit accounts all the time. it makes it much easier to get away with. who gives a shit if the hacker gets $1bn vs. $2bn it's more money than they will ever be able to use / launder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112762) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:49 PM Author: Cream ticket booth Listen idiot: I'm saying if that's true, then it's only a matter of time before someone chimes in with, "hey I got some of this bitcoin and I'm not affiliated with FTX or this consolidation or whatever." Then you would know it's a hack. But the fact that no one has said that lends credence to SBF's statement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112791) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:51 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault hey fuckwad, it's only been 3 days and most people aren't actively checking if someone deposited $1K of bitcoin to them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112805) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:53 PM Author: Cream ticket booth Lol I'm sure you're right and it'll be discovered any second now and you'll be proven right about your tether conspiracies!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112817) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:54 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112824) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:50 PM Author: cracking school cafeteria idiot isnt that the point... they send some to active wallets then FBI and whoever has to look into whether active wallet user is behind this
do that 10,000 times and it makes it basically impossible for pigs to even investigate this |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:50 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112796) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:52 PM Author: Cream ticket booth But then an innocent person would be like, "hey, why did I get some of this?" So far that hasn't happened (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112809) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:53 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault yeah whenever i get free stolen money deposited into my account i would definitely call the nightly news (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112815) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:58 PM Author: cracking school cafeteria idiot wat if they are just sending micro amounts to ppl like .45 cents here, 3.21 there
wld ppl really even notice or care |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:03 AM Author: Cream ticket booth Eventually yes, because there are all kinds of transaction histories in different wallets. And this would also be a massive news story, so it would just be a matter of time. But the fact that this has been sent to some "very active wallets" probably means SBF is telling the truth and people are just starting rumors based on big blockchain transactions and they don't understand why someone would move BTC around in this manner.
TLDR: OP is still retarded |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:39 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault also SBF is the #2 biden donator in the world (officially, of course not if you count all the foreign bribes) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112726) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:40 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault some of the money has been sent to an illegal russian exchange (i.e., that all legit exchanges have on a blacklist to never send crypto to) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112731) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:44 PM Author: Cream ticket booth Link or flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112752) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:41 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault https://twitter.com/CryptoWhale/status/1437583092806529027
Mr. Whale @CryptoWhale
Billions worth of #Bitcoin mysteriously left #FTX, and are being tumbled every 5 minutes to new random addresses.
This is very suspicious, and looks like a massive exchange hack.
@FTX_Official
@SBF_FTX needs to answer the simple question: Has FTX been hacked? |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:44 PM Author: thirsty metal newt you are the same idiot who kept posting tether truther threads aren't you?
you should schizo post about evergrande and tether instead |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:46 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault (tether denialist) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112764) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:43 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault the hilarious part is this could literally take down all of crypto 90% if FTX is revealed to be insolvent, which would instantly expose and collapse the tether scam (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112748) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:47 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Zero ($0/BTC) any day, exit all positions immediately.
BTW, have you ever considered investing in physical silver? |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:48 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault hey look, it's a TBF response where she completely refuses to address or refute the actual argument being presented. never saw that coming! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112786) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:50 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
"Sure, you might 'live a happy life' for a few years, maybe even a few decades... congrats. But you're going to die. It's inevitable. Life to death, it's happening. Imagine arguing otherwise. But go ahead, enjoy 'living' the lie of 'life' as long as the merry-go-round lasts. Let me know when you come around and start to consider the only real solution: suicide." |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:52 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault 2nd response in a row with no refutation of my core argument
this is considered a "top tier crypto intellectual" on this board btw lmao |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:53 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
So are we gonna talk about investing huge amounts of money in physical silver as an excellent financial strategy or naw |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:57 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault every time someone brings up tether you instantly try to switch the convo to physical silver. it's absolutely hilarious and neatlystacked was 100% correct for ridiculing you for it
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:01 AM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
"Hey big guy, settle down -- I'm here to talk about the totally non-insane conspiracy theory that I have about the cryptocurrency market, which is definitely true and which will save your from losing all of that money you foolishly gambled to make in that fraud market the first place... not the other totally non-insane conspiracy theory that I have about the silver commodities market, which strangely hasn't made me any richer yet but is definitely also true and is going to make me a millionaire any day now. The fact that you cryptomos are rich and have been for years and us silvermos are still poor proves absolutely nothing btw." |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:44 PM Author: vigorous lay faggotry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112757) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:53 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112818) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:53 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault okay so far we have TBF and 3 MAF pumos telling me I'm wrong (without explaining how I'm wrong)
any other contenders? exeunt? bueller? |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:54 PM Author: thirsty metal newt it's literally just an insane conspiracy theory and SBF already gave an official answer. we can't prove that ftx wasn't hacked lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112828) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:59 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault lmao
(1) his answer didn't actually answer the question was FTX hacked
(2) his answer made no fucking sense. he said it was to consolidate and they are doing the opposite - creating thousands of new wallet addresses each with a small amount of client money (?)
(3) this guy is a known fraudster conman who is in bed with tether
(4) lmao at this reuters-level "debunking". we asked the exchange if they were hacked (which if they answered affirmative it would immediately cause a run and implode them) and they said no. case debooonked! |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:54 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Nope you're correct and you should unironically (I mean this extremely sincerely) continue to keep your money far, far away from cryptocurrency. |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:58 PM Author: thirsty metal newt that's what makes the fact that he continues to create these threads so insane. if he and "bitfinexed" had just gone all in crypto years ago they would be rich. at this point he needs it to fail to remain sane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112850) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:56 PM Author: vigorous lay faggotry TBF is a single mom living off child support payments (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112839) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:57 PM Author: Glittery cerise stock car here you go retard https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1437460791188467712?s=20 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112849) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:58 PM Author: chocolate hominid forum Can you explain what this means? Im a retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112858) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:00 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault nyuug is a known board dipshit, especially when it comes to crypto. SBF's response makes ZERO sense. why are they doing that? why are they keeping 2 billion in client moneys on a hot wallet? why are they moving 2 billion dollars every 10 minutes to a new address? why are they creating thousands of new wallets instead of just "consolidating" like he said? why won't SBF or FTX just come out and say "we weren't hacked" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112869) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:13 AM Author: nofapping red piazza You, obviously, are a fucking idiot who doesn't know a damn thing about Bitcoin.
With that said, your point about keeping that large amount in a hot wallet has some merit. |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:09 AM Author: nofapping red piazza Think of a UTXO as being roughly equivalent of a bank note, with the amount of the note being equal to the previous transaction sending that amount.
Assume an address has a single UTXO associated with it equal to 1 BTC. If the owner of that address wants to send .2 BTC to another address, it will result in 2 UTXOs. 1 will be the .2 UTXO to the recipient address, with the balance constituting a separate UTXO to an address that is controlled by the sender's private key. This second transaction is often referred to as a transaction to a "change address."
The big amount of BTC associated with FTX that keeps moving from address to address is the "change address" with the small amount being peeled off constituting withdrawals, at least according to SBF's narrative. |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:01 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault LMAO if you believe SBF then of course it's a lie
you are the rudolph of crypto- mewling, exposed and dripping on all 4's |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:20 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault also lmao @ this tweet being in past tense. A FEW DAYS AGO.
okay why are you moving $2bn every 10 minutes then... RIGHT NOW? |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:23 AM Author: nofapping red piazza I answered this exact question, above, 10 minutes ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112942) |
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Date: September 13th, 2021 11:58 PM Author: gaped son of senegal headpube New Yorkers can't even use FTX (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112856) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:00 AM Author: Exciting yellow marketing idea Hilarious thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112865) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:03 AM Author: titillating french chef crackhouse What do you make of it, my man? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112880) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:02 AM Author: Brilliant theater stage mad-dog skullcap Even if it were true, FTX is probably worth $15bn in enterprise value. They can just do a capital raise to cover it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112876) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:04 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault this is your brain on crpytocurrency
just do raise capital to make up for lost/stolen capital, which having been lost will implode your entire leveraged ponzi scheme |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:06 AM Author: Brilliant theater stage mad-dog skullcap You’re fucking retarded. Business run out of cash and go negative net assets all the time. If you have a business that generates cash flows that are worth we’ll in excess of the hole, people will exchange cash for an equity stake in those cash flows. This is investing 101 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112890) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:09 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault are you an actual moron or are you running an expert troll flame shtick?
companies that go under as a result of insane leveraged fraud can't just raise capital you dumb fucking dipshit. using your brainlet logic Enron should have just raised capital after they got caught, they were $60bn market cap after all! |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:18 PM Author: Brilliant theater stage mad-dog skullcap Enron’s offshoot companies are worth hundreds of billions today. We all learned the lesson from history that it was dumb to let Enron fail. 2000 is not 2021. Investors would scoop the fuck out of FTX. Did you see how quickly Ken Griffin and Steve Cohen plugged a $3bn hole in Mevin? I’m glad you’re some retail loser stuck in a 1970s investment mindset, but while the rest of us get rich, you just keep on bitching. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43115047) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:30 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Don't use that tone with cuttingtable, faggot, he owns way more physical silver than you.
He doesn't own more physical silver than me, ironically. But he owns way more than you, so show some fucking respect.
BTW random side note: As a guy who owns a ton of physical silver, I would say that owning physical silver because you think it's going to be a great investment vehicle in the future and is headed to $1000/oz+ is literally completely fucking retarded, and no one who suggests that is going to happen should ever be given any credence on any financial issue whatsoever. |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:08 AM Author: big pearl chad brethren My Ledger NAno x literally came in today
gettgin all my shit off these kike exchanges asap |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:10 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112908) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:14 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault https://twitter.com/TRDXBT/status/1437472237951590402
$317bn BTC transferred on Sept. 11 - the most ever |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:19 AM Author: aphrodisiac coffee pot * cheer erupts from Anna, TX Flying J parking lot * (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112931) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:22 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault "You're thinking of this exchange all wrong. As if I had the money back in cold wallet. The money's not here. Your money's in ten thousand hot wallets...right next to yours. And in the Tether treasury, and propping up SOL, and a hundred others." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112940) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:15 AM Author: harsh box office gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43113103) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:23 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault lack of exeunt in this thread is deafening (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112943) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:24 AM Author: boyish canary indian lodge ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112946) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:24 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112948) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:25 AM Author: aphrodisiac coffee pot explain yourself, gook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112950) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:28 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112966) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:29 AM Author: boyish canary indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112967) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:25 AM Author: crawly orchestra pit Please share wisdom. We need clarity for the idiots above kind sir. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112952) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:25 AM Author: nofapping red piazza I responded to this histrionic retard above. So far he has ignored my response and continued to flail about.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112904 |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:28 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault hey moron when you first posted that it only had 2 paragraphs and made no sense, so i figured you omitted the rest. i was correct, but unfortunately it still makes no sense as your 3rd paragraph offered literally no explanation for why this insane transaction method is occurring when no other exchange has ever done this for legit purposes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112964) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:32 AM Author: nofapping red piazza I added to other paragraph 2 minutes after the original post (well before your other spastic posts ITT), which you know.
What I just described is exactly how BTC transactions work and perfectly explains the "peeling off" transactions.
As I noted above, the point about FTX foregoing the hot/cold wallets design has some merit, and I look forwarded to this being explained. However, the observed transactions in no way definitively establish that a hack has occurred. |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:26 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault ftx literally doing the "office space" penny scam on all you retards right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112958) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:38 AM Author: ruby gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43113003) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 12:35 AM Author: sapphire costumed windowlicker spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43112990) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:35 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43113189) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:21 PM Author: Iridescent abusive therapy where r we on this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43115057) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:28 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Crypto is dead.
Or it will be dead, very soon.
Or if that doesn't happen, OP will stop bumping this thread and go back to making tether fraud threads next week instead. |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:22 PM Author: boyish canary indian lodge lmao
https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1437808250611765255 |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:28 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Sorry, Solana already died this morning. BTC is currently plummeting towards zero (literally $0/BTC) as I type this. You were all warned. Exeunt, you're going to prison soon, not flame. Hope you got at least some of your ill-earned fortune transferred into physical silver. |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:29 PM Author: boyish canary indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43115097) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:46 PM Author: sapphire costumed windowlicker spot Have you been arrested yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43115172) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 2:21 PM Author: boyish canary indian lodge poasting from prison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43115409) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 11:34 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43118133) |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 3:17 PM Author: confused public bath roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43137396) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:34 PM Author: Scarlet heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43115119) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 10:05 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault Given that you think posting this tweet was a "gotcha" you appear to be severely confused about the current situation that is unfolding. Let me enlighten you.
1. Yesterday I recommended that everyone leave FTX and dump SOL and SRM because they are controlled by a conman and known moron (((SBF)))
2. Less than 24 hours later, the entire Solana chain goes offline due to a bug/exploit. Interesting - this is supposed to be a decentralized network. Woops, nope it's just another centralized shitcoin run by one guy, on par with other SQL databases like Binance "Smart" Chain.
3. SOL and SRM are trading down ~5% but the hilarious part is that only represents the small slice of money on exchanges. Obviously most people and all the whales have their tiny pink SOL on cold wallets that they can't move because SOL and its entire garbage ecosystem is down. When this piece of shit finally goes online it's going to be such a giant red dildo that not even nyuug's exposed bulgogi hole could handle it.
4. Apparently the exploit is not a quick fix and is tied to a fundamental flaw in the platform. i.e., this could take weeks to fix lmao.
5. You link to a tweet confirming that SBF keeps $2bn of client funds on a hot wallet that is (for completely unexplained reasons) using a complicated "peel off" method to distribute funds that no exchange seems to have ever used before. SBF - keep in mind this is the genius who is supposed to be fixing his SOL chain which is 100% offline - says that he will be doing a livenet adjustment to this algo, which again is responsible moving client funds. this is supposed to reassure everyone here? BTW, this is the **most** charitable explanation that assumes he isn't straight up lying and the funds weren't stolen (probably were).
6. Despite all of the above, exeunt (considered a crypto genius) appears completely unaware of the shitstorm that is approaching. Then again he probably SOL'd weeks ago after convincing board morons to buy his centralized shitcoin bags.
exeunt (noun) — used as a stage direction to specify that all or certain named characters leave the stage.
His username is a joke and all of you are the punchline. |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 10:21 PM Author: nofapping red piazza "using a complicated "peel off" method to distribute funds that no exchange seems to have ever used before"
You dumb fucking nigger, I have explained to you twice why these transactions are perfectly consistent with Bitcoin's basic transaction structure of payment drstination address & change address. SBF's tweets confirm this is the case.
You also don't know WTF you talking about re Solana.
Are you NYUUG? |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 10:22 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault lmao how's your SOL doing today faggot? oh wait, you can't even move it to the exchange to panic sell?
lmao other coins that were down for a day saw 85%+ declines. good luck with your exeunt bags! |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 10:45 PM Author: nofapping red piazza You literally don't know WTF you are talking about re SOL, just like you didn't know a damn thing about basic BTC transactions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43117929) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:42 PM Author: mind-boggling genital piercing cruise ship So OP was completely wrong about this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43115152) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 1:46 PM Author: Disturbing Giraffe Coldplay Fan OP has been ranting about tether collapsing and crypto going to $0 with absolute certainty for literally years now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43115167) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 2:16 PM Author: Exciting yellow marketing idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43115382) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 6:54 PM Author: chocolate hominid forum Was op right? SOL is crashing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43116920) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 10:11 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43117755) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 10:47 PM Author: flickering razzle queen of the night stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43117936) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 10:48 PM Author: soul-stirring high-end field fortuitous meteor OP was right, EXIT ALL EXPOSED POSITIONS NOW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43117944) |
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Date: September 14th, 2021 11:34 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43118131) |
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Date: September 17th, 2021 8:30 PM Author: stimulating hall hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43134341) |
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Date: September 17th, 2021 8:40 PM Author: boyish canary indian lodge ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43134376) |
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Date: September 17th, 2021 8:43 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault $145.88 -1.0% -3.5% -18.2%
getting there fren!
FTX and binance about to get SEC-pwned next week btw |
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Date: September 17th, 2021 10:36 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Devastating.
Now, finish him -- compare it to where it was two weeks ago. |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 1:05 PM Author: boyish canary indian lodge way to distract from your colossally failed prediction
also SOL is now 160 u mad? |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 2:38 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
It's going to zero and you're going to jail, bro. What part do you not understand? |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 2:53 PM Author: sapphire costumed windowlicker spot Any chance of the death penalty? Hope not, always liked exeunt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43137259) |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 3:20 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault >>colossally failed prediction
*predict SOL is a piece of shit*
*12 hours later the entire blockchain shuts down* |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 4:05 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
So did the FTX rugpull / hack (which was the literal prediction that you made in this thread) already happen, and somehow the exchange just hasn't collapsed yet despite it already coming to pass and all of this being publicly called out on Twitter, but the collapse is going to happen very soon?
Or the rugpull / hack itself actually hasn't happened just yet, either, but it will soon, and then once it does the collapse will follow quickly?
Just trying to figure out exactly where we are on this catastrophic collapse continuum. |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 4:43 PM Author: tan base police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43137810) |
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Date: September 17th, 2021 8:42 PM Author: tan base police squad ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43134382) |
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Date: September 17th, 2021 8:42 PM Author: tan base police squad ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43134383) |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 2:52 PM Author: stimulating hall hissy fit ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43137246) |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 3:17 PM Author: confused public bath roast beef ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43137399) |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 9:00 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43138758) |
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Date: September 19th, 2021 9:24 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43143187) |
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Date: September 18th, 2021 10:48 PM Author: splenetic exhilarant hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43139258) |
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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:39 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
One week check in. |
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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:41 PM Author: Iridescent abusive therapy where are we on this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43147577) |
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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:41 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Wait two weeks! |
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Date: October 1st, 2021 1:51 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Hello -- two week (extension) deadline is coming up on Monday, where are we on this? Client has asked twice now. I am out of pocket today, but please call me on my cell ASAP to discuss because this is very high priority. I should not have to be the one pinging you. |
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Date: October 1st, 2021 1:53 PM Author: electric impertinent library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43206698) |
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Date: October 1st, 2021 1:53 PM Author: boyish canary indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43206706) |
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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:38 PM Author: Cream ticket booth Has anyone besides OP found out about this yet? Seems like a major story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43150088) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2021 3:36 PM Author: boyish canary indian lodge jfc op was right ftx is bankrupt
also ftx just sponsored the mercedes-amg petronas f1 team, oh boy, that's going to be a big egg on their face!
https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1441039827151978497 |
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Date: September 23rd, 2021 3:43 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43165340) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2021 2:27 AM Author: Galvanic shrine pervert Fuck Hamilton. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43213345) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2021 2:19 AM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43213322) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2021 2:20 AM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Hurtling towards the one month anniversary of this historic thread |
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Date: October 3rd, 2021 2:23 AM Author: Laughsome narrow-minded mood where are we on this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43213331) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2021 2:35 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault rent free in TBF's head: priceless (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43213361) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2021 3:20 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Haha yeah, haha. 64-D chess, you got me! |
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Date: October 3rd, 2021 3:27 PM Author: boyish canary indian lodge pwned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43215417) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2021 3:34 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43215451) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2021 3:27 PM Author: soggy glassy rigor (Retard) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43215415) |
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Date: October 16th, 2021 4:38 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Status? Missed the one month anniversary of this thread -- is it safe to peer out from the metaphorical crypto-cope bunker yet, or is the smoldering wreckage of what was once "FTX" still too painful to behold? |
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Date: October 16th, 2021 6:31 PM Author: boyish canary indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43282966) |
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Date: October 16th, 2021 6:37 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43282995) |
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Date: October 16th, 2021 6:39 PM Author: excitant sable parlour The greatest trick SBF ever played was convincing the world the rug pull didn't exist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43283002) |
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Date: October 16th, 2021 6:40 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43283005) |
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Date: October 16th, 2021 6:40 PM Author: stimulating hall hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43283008) |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 1:32 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault lmao
To be fair,
What, you couldn't predict a ponzi scheme unraveling within days of your post? If it hasn't happened in a month then it will never happen!
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Date: October 19th, 2021 1:33 AM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
So you're saying that FTX either suffered a massive hack that Twitter caught, or rugpulled literally billions of dollars right in front of our eyes, and yet... there have been absolutely no repercussions more than a month later?
But something big and bad is definitely going to happen any day now?
How long should we wait? Two weeks? |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 1:35 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault To be fair,
Ha! You claimed Madoff was running a ponzi scheme in September 2007 but here we are in October 2007 and it's fine. Admit you were wrong! Madoff is a legit businessman and he doesn't have to prove he is actually has your money! |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 1:39 AM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
This would be a fantastic analogy if Twitter had existed in September 2007 and numerous users on that public forum who were also investors in his fund had used that platform at that time to publicly point out irrefutable evidence of his fraud in September 2007 but then nothing happened.
Which, to be clear, is exactly what happened a month ago re FTX according to your OP. |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 1:30 AM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
REMINDER: If you see a guy hawking physical silver, that's the OP of this thread. Listen to him next time, you idiots. |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 1:32 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault hey TBF, link me to the audited financial statements of tether's reserves
you have that bookmarked right?
why would a totally legit operation (6 man company managing $70bn operating out of the cayman islands) not provide that? |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 1:35 AM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
OK hold on this might take a minute but I actually have those. Wait a little bit, shouldn't be more than a week or two. |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 1:37 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault lmao. this is 100% classic TBF. gets cornered with a request to actually back up claims and all that happens is "HAHA 2 MORE WEEKS PHYSICAL SILVER AMIRITE?".
it's okay to admit that you don't actually believe tether is worth anything and you just want the ponzi scheme to keep running so your goycoins go a little higher.
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Date: October 19th, 2021 1:40 AM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
You: "Wait two weeks!"
Me: "Oh yeah, well you wait two weeks, too!"
You: "Fuck you faggot, that's a retarded fake and gay line you sound like an asshole falling back on that weak nonsubstantive shit thanks for tacitly admitting that you've got nothing."
Me: "Wait, but then doesn't that mean you al--"
You: "Pwned. Wew." |
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Date: November 2nd, 2021 2:19 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Two month anniversary in spitting distance. Thoughts and prayers, former "Solana" investors. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2021 10:00 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43375111) |
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Date: November 4th, 2021 9:53 PM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault who made this thread anyway? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43389184) |
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Date: November 4th, 2021 9:54 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43389197) |
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Date: November 4th, 2021 10:34 PM Author: excitant sable parlour no clue, but the mossad took care of them quickly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43389404) |
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Date: November 4th, 2021 10:35 PM Author: thirsty metal newt where are we on this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43389409) |
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Date: November 7th, 2021 1:59 AM Author: well-lubricated odious double fault lmao @ these fucking scam artists
https://mobile.twitter.com/Justin_Bons/status/1456703476633939972
all of these people + tether belong in federal pound-mein-the-ass prison |
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Date: November 7th, 2021 1:12 AM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Bold move bumping this one, I have to say. |
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Date: November 20th, 2021 3:18 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43479026) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2021 9:22 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#43554819) |
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Date: June 11th, 2022 7:58 PM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Coming up quick on the nine month mark on this one -- if you had had sex and impregnated a front hole breeding person on the day that cuttingtable poasted this thread (you poast so we all know you didn't), the child produced by that union would literally be due next week. Man, time sure flies when major crypto exchanges are crashing to the ground due to "hacking and/or exit rugging"!
Where are we on this, OP? |
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Date: November 8th, 2022 4:02 AM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Bumping to remind everyone freaking out about FTX today that they're all waaaaaaaaaaaaay late to the party, FTX already got 100% confirmed rugpulled and/or got hacked and went under more than a year ago. |
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Date: November 8th, 2022 10:27 AM Author: Galvanic shrine pervert "FTX appears to have stopped processing withdrawals, on-chain data show"
That's not good. |
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Date: November 8th, 2022 10:28 AM Author: contagious ladyboy dopamine Oh no! Not the on chain data! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#45456127) |
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Date: November 8th, 2022 3:04 PM Author: bisexual federal church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4921249&forum_id=2#45458049) |
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Date: November 8th, 2022 10:28 AM Author: bisexual federal church building To be fair,
Well yeah of course they did, they've been insolvent for 13 months. Read the OP, retard. |