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American Empire falls the same way as the Roman Empire: 3rd world immigration

It's so obvious that this was the cause of the fall of the R...
Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend
  09/17/21
Gibbon also cites currency debasement (happening here), shif...
amethyst irradiated stain
  09/17/21
It's uncanny. It's all related to you know what...
Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend
  09/17/21
Time is a flat circle, friend
Wild chad
  09/17/21
The better comparison is the Republic Slaves from Roman c...
Wild chad
  09/17/21
Incredible analogy.... Although could the same thing happ...
Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend
  09/17/21
The analogy would be the deep state/military siding with the...
Wild chad
  09/17/21
That hits too close to home.
Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend
  09/17/21
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sapphire sticky orchestra pit
  09/17/21
At the end though the armies that sacked Rome were hordes of...
harsh vivacious jew
  09/17/21
Yeah but that was basically an Emperor deciding not to placa...
Wild chad
  09/17/21
Gee that sounds implausible
Impressive becky point
  09/17/21
You need the Republic to fall for the Empire to wither away ...
Wild chad
  09/17/21
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Twinkling cerebral lodge
  09/17/21
and being dealt with we are
sapphire sticky orchestra pit
  09/17/21
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Claret Abode Place Of Business
  09/17/21
Right... so exactly what is happening and will happen (proba...
Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend
  09/17/21
There were poets in the late Empire who were telling people ...
gold blathering set
  09/17/21
From Gibbon: “Juvenal (70) laments, as it should se...
gold blathering set
  09/17/21
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Stirring Sepia Corner
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curious shrine
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Wild chad
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Cracking pungent partner
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Fiercely-loyal Tripping University
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Wild chad
  09/18/21
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flushed demanding weed whacker
  09/21/21
funny because I've often wished for a great general to attac...
Chocolate Excitant Forum
  09/17/21
I made this point in another thread, but a great general can...
Wild chad
  09/17/21
Great example But that's also where the Empire analogy ...
fragrant ruddy public bath faggot firefighter
  09/21/21
We’re not yet balkanized to that point. That’s ...
Wild chad
  09/21/21
yeah exactly, and we're not quite imploded either - but you ...
fragrant ruddy public bath faggot firefighter
  09/21/21
Why do u think the Chinese empire built a wall
harsh vivacious jew
  09/17/21
that led to their ossification and complete subjugation to s...
mustard black woman mental disorder
  09/17/21
They were temporarily subjugated but are reemerging to the t...
Walnut arrogant stead
  09/17/21
...
Wild chad
  09/17/21
oh i thought was lead poisoning/syphilis/barbarians
autistic elastic band
  09/17/21
You would
Wild chad
  09/17/21
There weren't nearly high enough proportion of Roman populat...
fragrant ruddy public bath faggot firefighter
  09/21/21
New studies have decisively proven that the Pfizer vaccines ...
federal canary private investor principal's office
  09/21/21
do your part and stomp the fuck out of some mud people
Boyish haunting newt stage
  09/17/21
I'm not interested as much in snuffing the symptoms but rath...
Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend
  09/17/21
I wonder if the Emperor Honorius watching the Visigoths co...
Chartreuse Vengeful Jap Foreskin
  09/17/21
That is the worst line from TNG because Picard should damn w...
metal onyx potus puppy
  09/17/21
Honorius, just like American leaders would be, was hiding in...
gold blathering set
  09/17/21
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/01/USA-EL...
arousing translucent affirmative action location
  09/17/21
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Razzle-dazzle Orange Sex Offender Party Of The First Part
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sapphire sticky orchestra pit
  09/17/21
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Claret Abode Place Of Business
  09/17/21
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Marvelous Brilliant School Gaping
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Wild chad
  09/17/21
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Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend
  09/17/21
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Tan piazza people who are hurt
  09/17/21
Yes, US permitting mass unrestricted immigration from Europe...
zippy floppy kitchen
  09/17/21
Lmao they are the ones who went to fight and sort out the...
sapphire sticky orchestra pit
  09/17/21
Just lol at your burning hatred of white superiority
Claret Abode Place Of Business
  09/17/21
he knows he's an inferior low caste turd.
talented balding legal warrant
  09/17/21
you're using america, the chief globohomo exporter in the wo...
maniacal bright degenerate
  09/17/21
(not a Mike Duncan listener)
mustard black woman mental disorder
  09/17/21
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Wild chad
  09/17/21
great work ITT
Fiercely-loyal Tripping University
  09/17/21
Ty
Wild chad
  09/17/21
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Twinkling cerebral lodge
  09/17/21
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Violet Range Telephone
  09/18/21
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angry property
  09/18/21
Not disagreeing but rise and fall of Rome traces global temp...
Mahogany Whorehouse
  09/18/21


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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:17 AM
Author: Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend

It's so obvious that this was the cause of the fall of the Roman Empire (immigration from poorer areas leading to a change in the population) -- and this is already happening in America.

It's over, folks.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129713)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 10:32 PM
Author: amethyst irradiated stain

Gibbon also cites currency debasement (happening here), shift to hereditary monarchy, prolonged and fruitless wars (happening here), a general decay of educational and social institutions (happening here) and an increasingly disinterested and decadent elite (happening here)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43134841)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 10:33 PM
Author: Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend

It's uncanny. It's all related to you know what...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43134846)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 10:33 PM
Author: Wild chad

Time is a flat circle, friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43134847)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:28 AM
Author: Wild chad

The better comparison is the Republic

Slaves from Roman conquests post 2nd Punic War displaced the traditional citizen soldier from their farms. The Patrician class bought up land from absentee farmers at war and instead of using citizens to farm it, used cheap imported slave labor.

Displaced citizens flocked to Rome for opportunity where the leaders began to give out free shit for political benefit. Ultimately, the leaders who promised the most free shit got into power, culminating in Marius offering a bunch $ and land for people to fight in the Army.

Thereafter, soldiers were no longer loyal to the State but to the General that could give them spoils. Civilians in Rome continued to vote in whoever would give them the most stuff. A few elite struggles ensued, and Caesar came to power as a beloved populist.

The Empire analogy fails as by the time Odoacer deposed the last Roman Emperor the military and northern provinces had already been mostly Germanic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129735)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:30 AM
Author: Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend

Incredible analogy....

Although could the same thing happen in America with respect to the Generals?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129739)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:37 AM
Author: Wild chad

The analogy would be the deep state/military siding with the politician who promises the most wars etc in order for profiteering

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129753)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:57 AM
Author: Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend

That hits too close to home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129785)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 4:36 AM
Author: sapphire sticky orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130095)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:30 AM
Author: harsh vivacious jew

At the end though the armies that sacked Rome were hordes of immigrants under immigrant generals that were technically part of the Roman army bc the romans couldn’t keep them out so they tried to incorporate them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129742)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:32 AM
Author: Wild chad

Yeah but that was basically an Emperor deciding not to placate his “army”

They weren’t really immigrants at that point. The analogy would hold if 100 years from now this country is just a bunch of squat retard Mayans and the bureaucracy just dissolves from lethargy and incompetence and there is no real country anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129745)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:37 AM
Author: Impressive becky point

Gee that sounds implausible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129752)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:39 AM
Author: Wild chad

You need the Republic to fall for the Empire to wither away as there are currently still too many native born sons and daughters who remember the greatness of the past. They need to be dealt with first so that the institutional memory (if you will) disappears

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129758)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 2:12 AM
Author: Twinkling cerebral lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129963)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 4:36 AM
Author: sapphire sticky orchestra pit

and being dealt with we are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130096)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 5:51 AM
Author: Claret Abode Place Of Business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130186)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:38 AM
Author: Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend

Right... so exactly what is happening and will happen (probably sooner than 100 years from now)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129754)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:32 AM
Author: gold blathering set

There were poets in the late Empire who were telling people to flee their tiny, high-rent hovels in the city return to the countryside where they could find a comfortable home for the same price. Sounds familiar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129746)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:35 AM
Author: gold blathering set

From Gibbon:

“Juvenal (70) laments, as it should seem from his own experience, the hardships of the poorer citizens, to whom he addresses the salutary advice of emigrating, without delay, from the smoke of Rome, since they might purchase in the little towns of Italy a cheerful, commodious dwelling at the same price which they annually paid for a dark and miserable lodging.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129750)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:58 AM
Author: Stirring Sepia Corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129790)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 4:27 AM
Author: curious shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130086)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 10:02 AM
Author: Wild chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130765)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 10:37 AM
Author: Cracking pungent partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130958)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 5:52 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Tripping University



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43133680)



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Date: September 18th, 2021 12:16 AM
Author: Wild chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43135206)



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Date: September 21st, 2021 9:53 PM
Author: flushed demanding weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43156070)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 10:24 AM
Author: Chocolate Excitant Forum

funny because I've often wished for a great general to attack washington and take back the country through benevolent dictatorship. oh well, lets see what happens...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130877)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 6:47 PM
Author: Wild chad

I made this point in another thread, but a great general can no longer come into being in this country. A great, talented, charismatic general is too much of a threat to The Regime. Just see what they did to Flynn and he is no Ike

Our military now selects for mediocre, uncharismatic, talentless yes men in the senior ranks and actively weeds out good officers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43133905)



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Date: September 21st, 2021 9:41 PM
Author: fragrant ruddy public bath faggot firefighter

Great example

But that's also where the Empire analogy works though in a way. The legions became so parochial and fragmented into their micro-cultures you could not tell a legionnaire standing on the danube that we have a crisis in Carthage you need to get on a boat go all the way over to Carthage and fight for a Latin speaking Rome... ie there was a multi-cultural process that Balkanized the empire into linguistic and ethnic enclaves

the attitude, which you see today: "I don't have an allegiance to the central complex of the Empire and its culture...."

i.e. I like the shit it makes and I like its products and bounties but hate on its traditions

I think you're still right tho that the direct issue of immigration and the direct issues caused and the populist wing vs senatorial wing etc are more directly recognizable as the fall of the republic than the empire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43155997)



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Date: September 21st, 2021 9:43 PM
Author: Wild chad

We’re not yet balkanized to that point. That’s their plan 60-100 yrs from now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43156011)



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Date: September 21st, 2021 9:52 PM
Author: fragrant ruddy public bath faggot firefighter

yeah exactly, and we're not quite imploded either - but you can so easily see it around the horizon it's crazy - like with the language they use today, why tf is that person's kid going to have *any* allegiance to the central complex of culture and traditions? to even lift a finger for it much less preserve it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43156061)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:28 AM
Author: harsh vivacious jew

Why do u think the Chinese empire built a wall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129736)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 4:31 AM
Author: mustard black woman mental disorder

that led to their ossification and complete subjugation to superior European civilization

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130090)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 10:39 AM
Author: Walnut arrogant stead

They were temporarily subjugated but are reemerging to the top of the heirarchy. So in the long run this seems much better than the Roman approach

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130965)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 11:32 AM
Author: Wild chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43131276)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:29 AM
Author: autistic elastic band

oh i thought was lead poisoning/syphilis/barbarians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129738)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 10:12 PM
Author: Wild chad

You would

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43134730)



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Date: September 21st, 2021 9:49 PM
Author: fragrant ruddy public bath faggot firefighter

There weren't nearly high enough proportion of Roman population exposed to water from lead pipes for this theory to have merit

Not to mention the Romans themselves were already aware of this problem - they noticed people who worked in lead mines were prone to much greater degrees of illness and sickness and they had cautioned about the use of lead pipes

Barbarians has the most merit ie the "from without" - over 200 years you basically have people who reproduce at higher rate who believe in their culture and society copying Roman military tactics, strategies / structures / weapons etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43156052)



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Date: September 21st, 2021 9:50 PM
Author: federal canary private investor principal's office

New studies have decisively proven that the Pfizer vaccines have lead microparticles in them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43156054)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:48 AM
Author: Boyish haunting newt stage

do your part and stomp the fuck out of some mud people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129769)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 12:56 AM
Author: Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend

I'm not interested as much in snuffing the symptoms but rather the cause.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129784)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 1:05 AM
Author: Chartreuse Vengeful Jap Foreskin

I wonder if the Emperor Honorius watching the Visigoths coming over the seventh hill truly realized that the Roman Empire was about to fall. This is just another page in history isn't it? Will this be the end of our civilization? Turn the page.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129806)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 1:56 AM
Author: metal onyx potus puppy

That is the worst line from TNG because Picard should damn well know better. Even if you don’t count Byzantium, which you should, the western empire didn’t fall that day. By the time Rome was sacked that time it was a strategic and cultural backwater and the dude he was referring to was I’m Rivenna.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129926)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 10:21 AM
Author: gold blathering set

Honorius, just like American leaders would be, was hiding in a different city when Rome was sacked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130853)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 6:58 PM
Author: arousing translucent affirmative action location

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/01/USA-ELECTION_PROTESTS_7.jpg?quality=80&strip=all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43133947)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 1:09 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Orange Sex Offender Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129818)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 5:06 AM
Author: sapphire sticky orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130131)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 5:52 AM
Author: Claret Abode Place Of Business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130187)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 6:47 AM
Author: Marvelous Brilliant School Gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130239)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 11:32 AM
Author: Wild chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43131283)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 5:25 PM
Author: Aromatic flesh bawdyhouse organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43133532)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 6:47 PM
Author: Tan piazza people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43133907)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 2:36 AM
Author: zippy floppy kitchen

Yes, US permitting mass unrestricted immigration from Europe permitted millions of Europes trash to move to the US and generations later look at what's happened, they are acting like crazy undemocratic lunatic terrorists and destroying the US from within

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43129992)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 5:07 AM
Author: sapphire sticky orchestra pit

Lmao

they are the ones who went to fight and sort out the mongrel european and asian empires once and for all

letting in bootlicking muslims is the worst thing the West has done for its own survival

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130135)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 5:52 AM
Author: Claret Abode Place Of Business

Just lol at your burning hatred of white superiority

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130188)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 10:35 AM
Author: talented balding legal warrant

he knows he's an inferior low caste turd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130949)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 8:01 PM
Author: maniacal bright degenerate

you're using america, the chief globohomo exporter in the world, as your example of white superiority?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43134250)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 4:30 AM
Author: mustard black woman mental disorder

(not a Mike Duncan listener)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43130089)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 5:49 PM
Author: Wild chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43133673)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 5:53 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Tripping University

great work ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43133684)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 6:45 PM
Author: Wild chad

Ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43133897)



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Date: September 17th, 2021 9:57 PM
Author: Twinkling cerebral lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43134668)



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Date: September 18th, 2021 12:28 AM
Author: Violet Range Telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43135246)



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Date: September 18th, 2021 12:11 AM
Author: angry property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43135199)



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Date: September 18th, 2021 12:33 AM
Author: Mahogany Whorehouse

Not disagreeing but rise and fall of Rome traces global temps pretty closely. The cold trends are bad for civilization.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4923517&forum_id=2#43135269)