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Date: September 30th, 2021 11:16 AM Author: Claret space
https://www.politico.eu/article/former-nazi-secretary-irmgard-f-run-court-itzehoe/
Irmgard Furchner is charged with being an accessory to 11,000 counts of murder, according to a statement released by Itzehoe Regional Court. She worked as a stenotypist and secretary between June 1943 and July 1945, thus allegedly aiding those responsible for the camp in the systematic killing of prisoners.
“Dear judge,” Irmgard F. wrote in a September 8 letter to the court, according to WELT, “Due to my age and physical limitations, I will not attend the court dates and ask my defense counsel to represent me. I would like to spare myself this embarrassment and not make a laughing stock of myself.” Nobody expected her to follow through with those announcements.
The former secretary, who usually resides in her home in Quickborn, in the German state of Schleswig-Holstein, began her escape in the early hours of Thursday morning, Süddeutsche Zeitung reports. “She took a taxi,” said a court spokesperson. Her destination was the Norderstedt subway station, just outside Hamburg, but after that, her trail was lost.
An estimated 65,000 prisoners died in the Stutthof concentration camp during World War II. Furchner is considered a typical “desk criminal,” whose work enabled the Nazis’ destructive regime. In an earlier letter to the judge, she claimed she “Didn’t do anything as an 18/19-year-old to answer for as a 96-year-old.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43200771)
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Date: September 30th, 2021 11:17 AM Author: cordovan crackhouse kitty
Hunters: Season 2 in full motion
half of the episodes will take place in hospices and will involved pulling the plug on Grandpa Fuehrer
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43200775) |
Date: September 30th, 2021 11:22 AM Author: beady-eyed factory reset button
> She worked as a stenotypist and secretary between June 1943 and July 1945, thus allegedly aiding those responsible for the camp in the systematic killing of prisoners.
I'm fine with going after people directly involved in the killing, but come on now.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43200793) |
Date: September 30th, 2021 11:39 AM Author: galvanic trailer park affirmative action
What were these people supposed to do? They would surely be executed and thrown in camps themselves if they didn’t go along with the sadistic nazi regime.
The people up top were hunted down and got what was coming to them, and maybe certain cases of exceptional brutality by lower level people deserves strong punishment, but this type of thing is absurd. Leave this woman alone. Time to move on.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43200884) |
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Date: September 30th, 2021 1:31 PM Author: Dull public bath
YWIA:
Volunteers were recruited via advertisements in German newspapers asking for women to show their love for the Reich and join the SS-Gefolge ("SS-Retinue", a Schutzstaffel (SS) support and service organisation for women). Additionally, some were conscripted based on data in their SS files.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_guards_in_Nazi_concentration_camps
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43201400)
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Date: September 30th, 2021 1:37 PM Author: Brass territorial school cafeteria ape
First: the woman in the OP "worked as a stenotypist and secretary." Your link concerns female guards. Surely you understand the difference between a prison guard (in the SS) and a secretary (no mention of being part of the SS).
Second from your link: "n 1942, the first female guards arrived at Auschwitz and Majdanek from Ravensbrück. The year after, the Nazis began conscripting women..." So after a few months these women were conscripted.
Nothing at all that lends credibility to your assertion that "Normally women had to volunteer or at least acquiesce in that type of work. It was very rare for them to be assigned to camp duty." All that link stands to prove is that there were female prison guards, which is not controversial.
What else do you have here?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43201419) |
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Date: September 30th, 2021 1:51 PM Author: Dull public bath
"Acquiesce" is a pretty low threshold, which it seems is more than met here:
https://reviews.history.ac.uk/review/2230
No talk about any case where a woman was executed, imprisoned, etc for not joining these auxillary services.
The woman in OP is specifically accused of having typed up execution orders for thousands of Jews.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43201504) |
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Date: September 30th, 2021 2:13 PM Author: Brass territorial school cafeteria ape
Your definition of "acquiesce" put the burden on a person to actually dodge conscription. This is bullshit and you know it.
This woman was a secretary. She was no more responsible for the deaths of camp detainees than the plumber who fixed the toilets or the mailman who delivered the mail.
If this is just about exacting revenge, fine, that's not unusual in history.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43201652) |
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Date: September 30th, 2021 3:38 PM Author: Hilarious swashbuckling native multi-billionaire
To be fair,
Gee I wonder what his ethnic background is
Oh well we'll never know
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43202158) |
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Date: September 30th, 2021 3:38 PM Author: Hilarious swashbuckling native multi-billionaire
To be fair,
Haha yeah they'll probably move on soon, I mean this is all drawing to a close because that generation is almost dead so we won't hear much about this going forward, just a few more years at most haha.
Hey btw you're not a "thoughtful moderate" by any chance, are you?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43202150) |
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Date: September 30th, 2021 2:26 PM Author: Dull public bath
The same reason our GIs showed no mercy at Dachau:
https://collections.ushmm.org/iiif-b/assets/768660
Those women hanging where convicted guards. I wish they had been given the same slow death they gave their prisoners.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43201716) |
Date: September 30th, 2021 7:34 PM Author: Underhanded boiling water area
Update: they caught her!
The half-day escape attempt of a 96-year-old former secretary at the Stutthof concentration camp, who was to face trial on Thursday but fled from authorities, ended at noon when the police brought her before a judge.
Furchner did not get very far, and was detained by police at the outskirts of Norderstedt — roughly 10 kilometers from her home.
While she was on the run, over 50 journalists and spectators, as well as 12 representatives of the joint plaintiffs, defense attorneys, state prosecutors and others sat perplexed in the courtroom as it was announced that Furchner had failed to be picked up by police that morning.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43203216) |
Date: September 30th, 2021 7:49 PM Author: mildly autistic laser beams
reminder, this lady actually cooperated with several 'inquiries' back in the 70's and 80's, and the matter was considered closed. but the current crop of libs and 'activists' are such psychotic hateful lunatics that they are dredging these things back up and are persecuting literal 100-year-old ladies for stuff that happened during their teen years.
this feels like a symptom of an unhinged and unstable system which no longer has 'adults' in charge.
another lesson from this - NEVER cooperate with libs or with your enemies. it can come back and get you even decades later. because libs are fundamentally evil, and engaging with evil stains you as well.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43203287) |
Date: September 30th, 2021 8:15 PM Author: Lake appetizing feces
“ In an earlier letter to the judge, she claimed she “Didn’t do anything as an 18/19-year-old to answer for as a 96-year-old.”
No kidding. Unreal.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43203375) |
Date: September 30th, 2021 8:32 PM Author: poppy mischievous legal warrant resort
Could she have resisted as an 18 year old (probably dumb) girl? Yes. Many people did resist. But that isn't the issue. If Israel and certain Jews had their way, anyone in Germany who didn't pick up a gun and fight the Nazis would be considered complicit, guilty and should be imprisoned or killed. There is no room for mercy here. No room for growth. No room for regret. It is just vengeance. That is fine too, but we shouldn't encourage it or, certainly, go along with it.
Leave aside your current political views-- put yourself in place of this girl (and she was a girl-- not a woman)at that time and place. Unsophisticated, naive, easily influenced, etc. You probably know people like this. They might be in your family or might even have been you at one point. Would you resist? I just don't get the continued, burning hate and desire for vengeance. 96 years old.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43203446) |
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Date: September 30th, 2021 8:58 PM Author: Underhanded boiling water area
Whatever happened to this way of handling things?
“Many people had to fill in a new background form, called a Meldebogen (replacing the widely disliked Fragebogen), and were given over to justice under a Spruchkammer,[15] which assigned them to one of five categories:[24][27][28]
V. Persons Exonerated (German: Entlastete). No sanctions.
IV. Followers (German: Mitläufer). Possible restrictions on travel, employment, political rights, plus fines.
III. Lesser Offenders (German: Minderbelastete). Placed on probation for 2–3 years with a list of restrictions. No internment.
II. Offenders: Activists, Militants, and Profiteers, or Incriminated Persons (German: Belastete). Subject to immediate arrest and imprisonment up to ten years performing reparation or reconstruction work plus a list of other restrictions.
I. Major Offenders (German: Hauptschuldige). Subject to immediate arrest, death, imprisonment with or without hard labor, plus a list of lesser sanctions.
Again because the caseload was impossibly large, the German tribunals began to look for ways to speed up the process. Unless their crimes were serious, members of the Nazi Party born after 1919 were exempted on the grounds that they had been brainwashed.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification
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This woman was eight years old when the Nazis came to power. What did the rest of her childhood look like?
“Education in the Third Reich served to indoctrinate students with the National Socialist world view. Nazi scholars and educators glorified Nordic and other “Aryan” races, while labeling Jews and other so-called inferior peoples as parasitic “bastard races” incapable of creating culture or civilization.
In the classroom and in the Hitler Youth, instruction aimed to produce race-conscious, obedient, self-sacrificing Germans who would be willing to die for Führer and Fatherland. Devotion to Adolf Hitler was a key component of Hitler Youth training. German young people celebrated his birthday (April 20)—a national holiday—for membership inductions. German adolescents swore allegiance to Hitler and pledged to serve the nation and its leader as future soldiers.
Schools played an important role in spreading Nazi ideas to German youth. While censors removed some books from the classroom, German educators introduced new textbooks that taught students love for Hitler, obedience to state authority, militarism, racism, and antisemitism.
From their first days in school, German children were imbued with the cult of Adolf Hitler. His portrait was a standard fixture in classrooms. Textbooks frequently described the thrill of a child seeing the German leader for the first time.
The Hitler Youth and the League of German Girls were the primary tools that the Nazis used to shape the beliefs, thinking and actions of German youth. Youth leaders used tightly controlled group activities and staged propaganda events such as mass rallies full of ritual and spectacle to create the illusion of one national community reaching across class and religious divisions that characterized Germany before 1933.
In 1936, membership in Nazi youth groups became mandatory for all boys and girls between the ages of ten and seventeen. After-school meetings and weekend camping trips sponsored by the Hitler Youth and the League of German Girls trained children to become faithful to the Nazi Party and the future leaders of the National Socialist state. By September 1939, over 765,000 young people served in leadership roles in Nazi youth organizations which prepared them for such roles in the military and the German occupation bureaucracy.”
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/indoctrinating-youth
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43203568) |
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Date: October 1st, 2021 12:38 AM Author: Soul-stirring headpube
“You probably know people like this.”
Literally everyone here knows people like this. Think of everyone who goes along with political correctness and the shitlib mob.
If in some hypothetical and glorious future where this nation is decisively defeated in warfare by an enemy nation with a different ideology, the winning country very well could set up the same Nuremberg style show trials and execute so many people here who were complicit in the madness
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43204522) |
Date: October 1st, 2021 12:14 AM Author: flesh sick hell
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/79686675?jumpto=127#qp
Better 24 minutes ago#128
I understand she was just a secretary, but ultimately still a cog in a machine that killed millions. She should be held accountable. I feel the same about the people working as secretaries for Republican politicians, or administrative positions with the RNC. Every single individual involved in those organizations of hate need to be held responsible. Not saying they all should be introduced to the guillotine, but they should be imprisoned at a minimum.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43204446) |
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Date: October 1st, 2021 12:19 AM Author: flesh sick hell
no
I'm telling you guys, these people are unhinged as fuck. Read this thread - this is FBI watch list shit
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/79687849
MaxAce 28 minutes ago#1
I've f***ing had it with this scum. It's gotten to the point where after a family member's funeral my sister told my family and I today that we were "bad people" who deserved "what was coming to us" for having gotten vaccinated. Are we going to sit around and wait until they attempt some sort of purge on us? Lord knows they aren't even hiding their intentions, blatantly calling for "leftists" to be dragged out into the street and shot all over Twitter, Facebook, comment sections, etc. Today at work a f***ing temp employee cut me off when I was talking about how healthcare is f***ed in this country and told me that he didn't want to live in a Communist society like I did...which is insane.
So...what do we do? I'm honestly asking. Because as civil war historians have stated, this is how it starts, with the open fantasizing about murdering their enemies in the streets, and soon, it becomes real, bloody acts.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4933003&forum_id=2#43204459) |
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