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Date: November 27th, 2021 1:25 AM Author: twinkling violent center multi-billionaire
You are a type A success, of course you have self control, not enough to pull yourself away from an 8 million a year job so you can do karate and play baseball with your children all day.
It’s not a negative thing, you will have a huge net worth when you die, you will just never quit or have a long retirement though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43515458)
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Date: November 27th, 2021 12:38 AM Author: Pungent national
Find God and fear nothing. If you fear something you are a slave to it.
Fear is the mind killer.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43515265) |
Date: November 27th, 2021 12:42 AM Author: chocolate arrogant range masturbator
That's because you're a huge narcissist; being afraid of dying and the associated lack of control is a huge narcissism tell.
Then again, your entire posting oeuvre indicates huge levels of NPD. The fact that you have to tag all your posts CSLG is the equivalent of literally you putting yourself above other posters. You don't have to write a witty or catching title, you just slap CSLG at the end and the pigs will come to feed at the trough. Even when you talk about your family and friends and the things you do for them, it always has to reflect back on to you.
You seem like a nice enough guy, though. You should go to a shrink. You can work on Narcissistic Personality Disorder. You will probably end up a more well rounded happier individual.
P.S. The reason you're worth $20MM and still not retired, and probably won't retire at 40, is because you probably have NPD. You'll never be able to fulfill your need to be admired and crave the attention of others if you're a stay at home dad/passive real estate investor.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43515289) |
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Date: November 28th, 2021 8:46 AM Author: Flesh fear-inspiring hunting ground
zurich here. as a narcissist myself, i agree 100% that CSLG appears to have NPD. he actually seems like he's a decent person and really nice guy IRL, but you wouldn't know that from reading his poasts here. he's addicted to attention, even negative attention. the more the better. he's figured out that by creating this cartoonish persona of himself and drawing people's ire, he gets the most attention. so you have all these humblebrag poasts about his money and 180 family and all this nonsense.
if anyone cared to help him, they'd stop responding to this stuff. however, i am not sure it will help him. he needs dopamine hits and he would figure out another way to get them here.
just like him, i poasted for years about my abuse of drugs (particularly cocaine) and alcohol and sex with whores/strippers. i did that, of course, because it garnered attention, both positive and negative. i realized this after i did horrible damage to my personal life through my actions. if anything, me poasting on here seeking attention made my behavior worse.
my mother was a complete trainwreck of a person and i think fucked me up. that must be at the root of all this - mom didn't love me and pay attention to me so i need "love" and attention from anyone who will give it to me - whores, sluts, whoever it is who actually poasts here. pretty much whoever we want.
i suspect the exact same is true, but replace my mom with CSLG's dad walking out on him at 8 or 9 and thereafter only seeing him here and there for meals out.
i doubt any of this will cause him to self reflect - these observations have been poasted many times. he just replies "180, i'm so mentally ill brother," "email me," "laser tag and family are so 180," etc.
interesting that fear of dying is an NPD tell. i have been TERRIFIED of dying since maybe middle or high school. it's something i'll have fleeting thoughts about as i'm drifting off to sleep and wake up in a panic. i also don't really believe in any particular god. i think atheists are off base and wrong, because something must have made all this, but i have never believed in any higher power. (i bet this is very common among narcissists - how could you really believe in something higher than yourself?) maybe i need to sort this out.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43521144) |
Date: November 27th, 2021 12:55 AM Author: Metal Lay Dragon
yeah i think u mentioned being jewish before
don't worry though--it seems like youre already in hell
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43515340) |
Date: November 27th, 2021 12:58 AM Author: Motley emerald factory reset button
Good of you to admit this brother.
If you follow the logic of simulation theory (we are living in a created universe), then it stands to reason that there is a God. If there is a God, it would seem that Jesus is the most likely candidate for the truth (seeing as tens of thousands of sane, rational, intelligent people willfully chose to martyr themselves for Him and testified to visions and other miracles -- add that to the publicly visible miracles witnessed by hundreds, such as the miracles of Fatima). Together, these things make it more likely than not that there is a creator God, and that what Jesus said and purportedly did was and is true. I know it's mind-blowing and seems impossible but once you realize it's far more likely than not that we are living in a created universe and that tens of thousands of people wouldn't go through painful deaths for a lie, then it becomes apparent as being more reasonable than the alternative. Once you embrace that and have faith even the size of a mustard seed, you may begin to see that eternal life is actually possible.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43515355)
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Date: November 27th, 2021 10:17 AM Author: shimmering station wrinkle
1. We have thousands of religions because God is written on our hearts and humans have attempted to frame that innate understanding of him imperfectly. The multitude of religions is actually evidence of a supreme being.
2. Just because there are thousands of religions, does not mean that all are false. In every kindergarten class in American, there are thousands of answers to 2+3 given, but there is only one right answer. Christianity is that right answer among the sea of wrong answers.
3. Instead of throwing out nonsense theories about twins that even you don't subscribe to. Stick to the one most convincing to you and lets talk about it. Your trying to be coy by throwing shit at a wall and hoping something sticks without staking yourself to any one possibility. Heck, putting aside the resurrection, you don't even attempt to explain how thousands witnessed the miracle of Fatima, including atheist journalists, many of whom converted after. I guess you gotta google an "explanation" for that one now.
4. God has, in many places and times, made his presence known and people still rejected him. Imagine being a Pharisees or Judas, seeing Jesus perform miracles like bringing people back from the dead or healing people with blindness, and yet still be willing to betray him and kill him. Do yourself a favour; go to the most ardent homosexual and ask them this: "If God exists, and he tells you not to engage in homosexual acts, would you stop today?"
Most will still say no! We love our sin more than God, even if he presents himself clearly and directly. The problem of Divine Hiddenness is a fairly weak argument.
5. That link has been debunked. I've personally debunked it when MIG tried to pull it. The overwhelming majority of historical evidence points to many/most of the early followers and apostles being martyred for their beliefs. You have to bend and twist historical facts in such a way to render all of history unknown (using the same standard), to get Carrier's argument to stand.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43516201) |
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Date: November 27th, 2021 7:27 PM Author: beady-eyed corner
Regarding (1) and (2):
Atheism provides a far better explanation of the proliferation of religions: that humans have a tendency toward religious belief for various psychological reasons, and this tendency expresses itself in the form of a vast diversity of incompatible religions. This diversity is exactly what you'd expect under atheism, whereas under Christianity, if there is a god who wants us to believe in him and live our lives a certain way, you would naturally expect him to appear to us and tell us. It doesn't make any sense to suppose that God would want us to rely on ancient documents and have to engage in abstruse historical debate over whether people were killed for their beliefs. Of course you will retort that God has some mysterious reason for doing so, or that he doesn't OWE you an explanation, etc., but my point is that the theory that God doesn't exist is more simple and plausible than the theory that he does exist but wants you to rely on an ancient book and to somehow figure out which of the thousands of religions is correct. The point of the "many different religions" thing isn't that none of the answers can be the correct one, it's that on the theory that God exists, we wouldn't expect there to be thousands of religions.
You have to invent all sorts of bizarre, nonsensical, ad hoc excuses to "explain" why God wouldn't just openly talk to everyone in such a way that his existence would be every bit as obvious and uncontroversial as the sun and the mountains and the ocean. Typically the Christian will declare that God showing himself would violate our free will to choose to believe in him. This makes no sense for a variety of reasons.
(i) We would still have a choice to follow God or reject him if we knew for a fact that he existed. In fact, that's the only way we'd have a real, informed choice: to know for a fact what your options are and choose accordingly.
(ii) God supposedly appeared directly to, and spoke with, various Old Testament figures and to the Apostles, 11/12 of whom were apparently convinced. Was their "free will" violated? The theory that God, due to some mysterious unfathomable reason, is willing to appear directly to certain people but not others, is far less plausible than that he simply isn't there.
(iii) Even Christians themselves disagree wildly about God's message and desires for us, hence the massive proliferation of different denominations and subdenominations of Christianity, differing interpretations of the bible, etc. You can't dismiss this as "pharisees" or "Judas" or "ardent homosexuals:" these are people who have already accepted the message of Jesus and yet still have not received clear enough communication from God to know what he wants.
Regarding (4), I really don't know what point you're trying to make here. In an argument about whether Christianity is true, you can't start with "well, Jesus performed miracles and people still rejected him." Obviously I don't accept that premise or we wouldn't have anything to debate about. Whether or not he does in fact "present himself clearly and directly" is precisely what's at issue here. And many people have converted to Christianity for all sorts of reasons, so it makes no sense to say that God making his presence obvious would fail to convince a lot of additional skeptics.
Regarding (3): you're missing the point I was trying to make. The twins thing isn't "seeing what will stick." It's an example of how, rather than accepting your invitation of "let's talk about it!" and getting bogged down in endless debate over whether we have solid historical evidence from 2000 years ago that there were people who (1) believed that they had personally witnessed miracles, (2) were killed for their beliefs, and (3) were given the opportunity to have their lives spared in exchange for recanting, I could instead concede all of that and still conclude that Christianity is probably false since there are plenty of natural explanations that, however far-fetched they might be, are still a hell of a lot more plausible than the idea that a corpse was magically reanimated as part of the overall Christian plotline of the universe, which I already find overwhelmingly unlikely to begin with, for the other reasons I listed in this poast. The "twins" idea was just the first one off the top of my head. But I would still like to see your "debunking" of that link, if you've got it at hand.
As for Fatima, I'll admit I'm not deeply familiar with the debate around it, but I am inclined to dismiss it and accept that the skeptical analyses of it are correct rather than bother spending copious amounts of time researching it for myself. The reason for this is that years ago, when I was more preoccupied with the whole religion-vs-atheism thing, the Fatima thing very rarely seemed to come up in the books and articles I read, public debates between Christians and atheists, etc. Other than you and tedbeckersted, I can't recall ever encountering anyone who was especially impressed with it. From what I've seen, Christian apologists seem to focus mainly on trying to prove the resurrection. Going by your summary of the evidence, this makes no sense: why waste so much breath and ink on trying to demonstrate the veracity of a small handful of anonymous ghost stories from ancient times when we have thousands of eyewitness statements to a spectacular miracle in the sky, including people who were publicly known to be atheists beforehand and converted as a result of what they saw, from a mere century ago?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43519063) |
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Date: November 28th, 2021 12:22 AM Author: Motley emerald factory reset button
I'm a believer but just wanted to say thanks for writing a great post.
What do you think of simulation theory, wherein it is posited that we are most likely living within a simulation (odds are trillions to one) -- i.e., a created universe, meaning that there is a creator?
Also, further to your point, isn't it more reasonable that there is some truth to Fatima and all of the other miracles rather than all of these being coincidental neurological phenomena all relating to Christ Jesus?
I concede that it is hard to understand why God doesn't come down from the sky and announce his presence, and I think your arguments about free will make sense, except for one issue. We cannot and do not know the will of God, so to question Him based on our limited perspective and understanding of rationality, does not make sense -- I know that's probably not a satisfying answer but I don't know a better way to harmonize the conclusions of simulation theory (that there is a creator) and the tens of thousands of instances of personal experiences and miracles (and sometimes public experiences like with Fatima), including many of which convinced people to give everything.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43520584) |
Date: November 27th, 2021 1:25 AM Author: Frum Associate Trust Fund
as you get older and nearer to death, your mind and nervous system become too enfeebled to register the real consciousness-searing, visceral death terror you are capable of feeling when young. this is nature's merciful design.
at some point, it seems most actually start to look forward to it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43515457) |
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Date: November 27th, 2021 6:17 AM Author: concupiscible magenta box office travel guidebook
as humans mature and age, the longer they live, the more likely they are to have a religious epiphany...humans are EVOLVED to have a religious epiphany, just as birds are evolved to fly and fish are evolved to swim...all human cultures offer an afterlife scenario to the societal members...this afterlife scenario helps psychologically stabilize the members so they can go on doing the things they need to do in order to function in society, in order to provide for children, etc, so that the dna is perpetuated...
the older people get, the smaller the percentage of atheists...the pew poll on religion from 2014 showed that only 3% of all americans said they were atheist...but up in the upper age brackets, such as in the 70s, the percentage of atheists were much less than 3%....
finally as humans near death, they lose the animal instinct to survive, and care little about life or death...like all animals as they near death
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43515764) |
Date: November 27th, 2021 1:56 AM Author: Canary stage cumskin
very credited OP.
I feel the same way, esp since my life is 180 now. Life is extremely short and we can disappear instantly without knowing
But retirement will make it worse imo
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43515546)
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Date: November 27th, 2021 2:02 AM Author: Judgmental toaster locus
"Enjoy your lives brothers."
Too late.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43515568) |
Date: November 27th, 2021 6:18 AM Author: Bespoke institution
To An Athlete Dying Young
A. E. Housman
The time you won your town the race
We chaired you through the market-place;
Man and boy stood cheering by,
And home we brought you shoulder-high.
Today, the road all runners come,
Shoulder-high we bring you home,
And set you at your threshold down,
Townsman of a stiller town.
Smart lad, to slip betimes away
From fields where glory does not stay,
And early though the laurel grows
It withers quicker than the rose.
Eyes the shady night has shut
Cannot see the record cut,
And silence sounds no worse than cheers
After earth has stopped the ears:
Now you will not swell the rout
Of lads that wore their honours out,
Runners whom renown outran
And the name died before the man.
So set, before its echoes fade,
The fleet foot on the sill of shade,
And hold to the low lintel up
The still-defended challenge-cup.
And round that early-laurelled head
Will flock to gaze the strengthless dead,
And find unwithered on its curls
The garland briefer than a girl's.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43515765) |
Date: November 27th, 2021 11:15 AM Author: Balding macaca
stoics made addressing the fear of death a major focus. you could try engaging with that.
alternatively, there are a lot of companies trying to conquer death through various treatments (senescent cell removal and the like). you could learn about that and perhaps pivot your considerable energy and talent to being some sort of anti-aging VC guru who ushers in a new era of health and youthful vitality for all (while making yourself a considerable sum), which you might ultimately find more fulfilling than getting to the next NW mile marker doing what you already do
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43516534) |
Date: November 27th, 2021 11:19 PM Author: dead embarrassed to the bone doctorate sneaky criminal
Some other good books on dying are a Short Life Well Lived and When Breathe Becomes Air.
I would channel some of this into staying even healthier. Would read up on stuff by Dr Peter Attia and David Sinclair, who are probably the best on anti-aging. Consider how much cardio you're doing (I know you lift heavy already) and some supplements that may reduce aging (and aren't harmful if they don't) such as a resveritrol supplement.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43520243) |
Date: November 28th, 2021 9:44 AM Author: Bespoke institution
The Door
Out of it steps our future, through this door
Enigmas, executioners and rules,
Her Majesty in a bad temper or
A red-nosed Fool who makes a fool of fools.
Great persons eye it in the twilight for
A past it might so carelessly let in,
A widow with a missionary grin,
The foaming inundation at a roar.
We pile our all against it when afraid,
And beat upon its panels when we die:
By happening to be open once, it made
Enormous Alice see a wonderland
That waited for her in the sunshine and,
Simply by being tiny, made her cry.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43521254) |
Date: November 28th, 2021 3:10 PM Author: concupiscible magenta box office travel guidebook
Yes the world is the best place of all
for a lot of such things as
making the fun scene
and making the love scene
and making the sad scene
and singing low songs and having inspirations
and walking around
looking at everything
and smelling flowers
and goosing statues
and even thinking
and kissing people and
making babies and wearing pants
and waving hats and
dancing
and going swimming in rivers
on picnics
in the middle of the summer
and just generally
'living it up'
Yes
but then right in the middle of it
comes the smiling
mortician
by Lawrence Ferlinghetti
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43522617) |
Date: November 29th, 2021 12:42 PM Author: Spectacular shaky mediation casino
you should read some epicurus.
may i suggest your fear of death is actually a fear of how you are living?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4973370&forum_id=2#43527529) |
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