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31 y/o Anti-Vax Retard gives up HEART TRANSPLANT b/c won't get VAX

lol this idiot https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1...
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
he’s not in the wrong here dumbass. the hospital is
rebellious partner house
  01/25/22
lol at the fact that this dying retard could be any of a num...
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
Don’t out consuela
rebellious partner house
  01/25/22
I'd probably fold in his circumstance with kids and everythi...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
You sound just as fucking stupid as the man does.
buff old irish cottage
  01/25/22
The subhuman vax-cuckolded forever-faggots know they are vax...
judgmental resort
  01/25/22
When you have kids I think you need to bite the bullet here....
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
"cuck to the vax" lol at the fucking cartoonish...
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
there clearly are people who did not want to get it but did ...
Bossy dark yarmulke area
  01/25/22
A real man realizes that even if the vax was just saline sol...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
you're a fucking child. lmao that grown men think like this
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
They do think like that. Every revolution and fight against ...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
lmao please, start a violent revolution based on the covid v...
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
I'm not advocating for a violent revolution because of the v...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
your implication that because i think you're an abject moron...
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
Naw man, you just can't understand that a man with normal T ...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
(real tough guy who never got the dozen or so vaccines neede...
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
No vaccines were required for me to go to school
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
ok you stupid baby i wish polio and/or smallpox were stil...
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
lol, keep trying
Razzle public bath associate
  01/25/22
lol @ stupid baby
Hairraiser sick double fault
  01/25/22
See, the difference between your stance and mine is that if ...
Cowardly Walnut Mood
  01/25/22
Its not his fault. He actually cannot comprehend our positio...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
I've had some strange conversations recently with family mem...
Cowardly Walnut Mood
  01/25/22
patrick henry is no more real to them than santa claus
Razzle public bath associate
  01/25/22
...
vivacious hall doctorate
  01/25/22
lol you're a real tough guy i bet when a cop pulls you ov...
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
Please explain in plain english the correlation between ente...
Cowardly Walnut Mood
  01/25/22
(seat belt cuck)
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
I'll wait until you can come up with a cogent response. Unli...
Cowardly Walnut Mood
  01/25/22
You honestly just don't understand. Your a hysterical women....
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
Plenty of conservahero women would get it too. Some of the r...
turquoise big-titted brunch
  01/25/22
Grown men don't take stances on stupid bullshit. Being an...
buff old irish cottage
  01/25/22
(stupid bullshit)
Cocky ocher roommate antidepressant drug
  01/25/22
lol
Razzle public bath associate
  01/25/22
lmao at an unqualified "having principles" equatin...
Odious canary library
  01/26/22
he's going to be immunocompromised. even if it wasn't a poli...
insane water buffalo stage
  01/25/22
Except that the vax wears off completely after 2-3 months fo...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
Pfizer and Moderna boosters are 90% effective against omicro...
Odious canary library
  01/26/22
...
supple dilemma brethren
  01/25/22
let's keep it real here, there's no reason a heart should be...
floppy vermilion mexican therapy
  01/25/22
cr
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
What the fuck are you talking about? Being unvaxxed is like ...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
...
Orange nursing home kitty
  01/25/22
Look, I'm generally w/ the right on 99.999999% of all issues...
floppy vermilion mexican therapy
  01/25/22
huh? The vax has like 2 months of effectiveness for the immu...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
"there is no scientific basis for"... the clai...
floppy vermilion mexican therapy
  01/25/22
I'll repeat: The process to suppress your immune system, esp...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
noted, when I share this bit of wisdom w/ friends, can i cit...
floppy vermilion mexican therapy
  01/25/22
Why do you think we went from dose 3 to dose 4 for immunocom...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
so let me get this straight, your citation supports the idea...
floppy vermilion mexican therapy
  01/25/22
...
Odious canary library
  01/26/22
he's 100% right. i have a friend who got a bone marrow trans...
onyx point sound barrier
  01/25/22
Did the doc advise your friend to not get vaxxed or to behav...
floppy vermilion mexican therapy
  01/25/22
he was already vaxxed, so the latter. if we agree transplant...
onyx point sound barrier
  01/25/22
don't think it has been established that transplants wipe ou...
floppy vermilion mexican therapy
  01/25/22
same. I know someone on drugs for rheumatoid arthritis that ...
Bossy dark yarmulke area
  01/25/22
so this "person that you know" is taking the risk ...
floppy vermilion mexican therapy
  01/25/22
yes. you don't need to use quotes and go fuck yourself rudol...
Bossy dark yarmulke area
  01/25/22
LOL
Hairraiser sick double fault
  01/26/22
...
Cocky ocher roommate antidepressant drug
  01/26/22
Agree that Rudolph is a 50 year old jewish homosexual, and I...
floppy vermilion mexican therapy
  01/26/22
tell me you know nothing about RA without telling me you kno...
Infuriating trailer park boistinker
  01/25/22
that old bitch who died of covid and whose family wrote in h...
Bossy dark yarmulke area
  01/26/22
i really hate when people do this, but here's an upboat for ...
floppy vermilion mexican therapy
  01/26/22
This is sorta right
Tan menage faggot firefighter
  01/26/22
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alcoholic henna church building
  01/25/22
>Being unvaxxed is like item #250 in terms of risk factor...
Odious canary library
  01/26/22
So why not get vaxxed AFTER the transplant?
Tan menage faggot firefighter
  01/26/22
...
Vibrant obsidian jap hissy fit
  01/25/22
Guy is 31. Unvax he has a better life expectancy than the n...
bright wrinkle base
  01/25/22
yea, when you combined the fact that they don't take into ac...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
i'm glad they're not wasting a heart on an obstinate moron. ...
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
On the one hand, he is 31 and needs a heart through no fault...
bright wrinkle base
  01/25/22
Sure, but lets be clear; the policy that he needs to be vaxx...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
...
Cocky ocher roommate antidepressant drug
  01/25/22
Comparing a hospital requiring a transplant patient to recei...
Infuriating trailer park boistinker
  01/26/22
(subhuman vax-cuckolded forever-faggot)
judgmental resort
  01/25/22
here's as close as i can get to making it a reasonable requi...
Razzle public bath associate
  01/25/22
https://www.practiceupdate.com/content/covid-19-mortality-lo...
Odious canary library
  01/26/22
...
Dun french kitchen ladyboy
  01/25/22
Nothing heroic about him IMO. Dude is going to voluntarily w...
puce crusty chad
  01/25/22
cr
aromatic stag film
  01/25/22
...
Infuriating trailer park boistinker
  01/26/22
Shitty policy but I would just get the vax here. But then a...
motley burgundy voyeur toilet seat
  01/25/22
I'm probably in the same camp tbh. We need more men like him...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
OTOH, he's one less R voter. So I'm pretty conflicted.
motley burgundy voyeur toilet seat
  01/25/22
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Plum marvelous philosopher-king boiling water
  01/26/22
Medical Q: Do vaccines work on people who have to be on immu...
jet balding field windowlicker
  01/25/22
Very good question
Diverse charcoal bawdyhouse
  01/25/22
The vaccines are safe and effective. Cease this line of ques...
Cowardly Walnut Mood
  01/25/22
No, that's why by October they were already giving them a 4t...
Learning Disabled Temple
  01/25/22
Also layer on the fact that “they” think such pe...
turquoise big-titted brunch
  01/25/22
Yes, but they (unsurprisingly) aren't as effective as in peo...
Odious canary library
  01/26/22
go away rudolph
Bossy dark yarmulke area
  01/25/22
Sounds like an idiot, tbh
Ivory fragrant death wish
  01/25/22
what a fucking dumbass. too bad he reproduced already
angry cracking macaca center
  01/25/22
The sinister urge to dehumanize and discriminate has found a...
Spectacular Deer Antler Legend
  01/25/22
It's the well known case of slaves hating non-slaves more th...
judgmental resort
  01/25/22
...
Plum marvelous philosopher-king boiling water
  01/26/22
cows go moo crying "but we had a contract!" as the...
costumed contagious rehab cuckold
  01/25/22
Hospital should be fire bombed. And admins not inside at the...
Exhilarant godawful liquid oxygen
  01/25/22
...
Plum marvelous philosopher-king boiling water
  01/26/22
...
motley burgundy voyeur toilet seat
  01/26/22
OH WHAT A MAN OF PRINCIPLE
Hairraiser sick double fault
  01/25/22
Lots of evil congregating itt wow.
Self-absorbed mind-boggling quadroon abode
  01/25/22
fucked around, found out
Rough-skinned Spot
  01/25/22
you are a 50 year old jewish pedophile. stop looking at chi...
Bossy dark yarmulke area
  01/25/22
A real man doesn't do what anyone tells him to, ever, no mat...
Dashing mad cow disease
  01/25/22
Its pretty arbitrary that they arrive at a Covid vax being a...
arousing adulterous newt rigor
  01/25/22
yea im sure they arrived at that policy decision by spinning...
Hairraiser sick double fault
  01/25/22
Of course transplant centers have BMI cutoffs, you baboon. ...
Dashing mad cow disease
  01/25/22
“Much more likely to die” LOL nice one NPC.
razzle-dazzle heaven gaming laptop
  01/26/22
https://youtu.be/JTK9FKxFrCw?t=111 They deny people for a...
Infuriating trailer park boistinker
  01/26/22
how has nobody mentioned: his wife is hot, top outcome for t...
impressive indian lodge
  01/25/22
his wife is a 4 and his heart would explode from fucking her
Rough-skinned Spot
  01/26/22
No one shld care Abt Birdshit or nigga Insanity anymore, it'...
Trip soggy community account
  01/26/22
...
Cocky ocher roommate antidepressant drug
  01/26/22
also this is just the daily mail doing clickbait. he'd neve...
Rough-skinned Spot
  01/26/22


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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:38 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

lol this idiot

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10439735/Boston-father-two-31-removed-heart-transplant-list-hes-not-vaccinated.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845214)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:40 PM
Author: rebellious partner house

he’s not in the wrong here dumbass. the hospital is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845222)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:41 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

lol at the fact that this dying retard could be any of a number of XO conspiracy theory idiots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845226)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:42 PM
Author: rebellious partner house

Don’t out consuela

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845232)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:42 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

I'd probably fold in his circumstance with kids and everything.

That being said, you are painfully stupid if you don't realize the sheer evil behaviour of the hospital and its administration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845234)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:37 PM
Author: buff old irish cottage

You sound just as fucking stupid as the man does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846256)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:42 PM
Author: judgmental resort

The subhuman vax-cuckolded forever-faggots know they are vax-cuckolded forever-faggots. This makes vax-cuckolded forever-faggots display behaviors like those in the OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846547)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:41 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

When you have kids I think you need to bite the bullet here.

I respect his decision though. We need more men like that.

Puts the people who cuck to the vax because of a job in context.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845225)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:42 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

"cuck to the vax"

lol at the fucking cartoonishly idiotic mentality of retards like you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845230)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:45 PM
Author: Bossy dark yarmulke area

there clearly are people who did not want to get it but did in order to keep their job. same vein as the bite the bullet for the sake of your family point, which you wouldn't understand because you are a 50 year old jewish homosexual with no children and no family and no life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845254)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:46 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

A real man realizes that even if the vax was just saline solution, the stance that he is taking is 100% valid. There is this little thing called principles. When someone tries to force you to do something with zero justification and tries to leverage your own livelihood and life expectancy in order to enforce compliance, a man fights back.

As a likely low T gook/jew you likely don't understand this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845257)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:47 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

you're a fucking child. lmao that grown men think like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845264)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:53 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

They do think like that. Every revolution and fight against the incumbent powers to improve human existence was started because a handful of men made the decision to say "fuck you, no" even when it didnt, at the time, make practical sense to do that.

I was not just trying to insult you. I seriously think that the divide here between people who understand OP and those that don't is T and being a man. Women also cannot comprehend this behaviour.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845289)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:59 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

lmao please, start a violent revolution based on the covid vaccine. would love to see you and that other anonymous internet neckbeard conspiracy theorist in the history books as the next george washington or napoleon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845313)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:01 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

I'm not advocating for a violent revolution because of the vax. Re-read what I wrote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845326)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:05 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

your implication that because i think you're an abject moron and petulant child throwing a temper tantrum over the vaccine, that i would therefore never conceive of having principles or being able to resist anything in my life, is just adolescent-level retarded logic much like that which drew you to be an anti-vax retard in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845354)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:06 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

Naw man, you just can't understand that a man with normal T levels would balk at being forced, under threat of losing their job or life, to be injected with something (even if that something was salt water).

Its not your fault, you actually just don't understand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845366)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:08 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

(real tough guy who never got the dozen or so vaccines needed to go to school)

wow you're oozing masculinity, not sounding like a whiny stupid baby

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845381)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:10 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

No vaccines were required for me to go to school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845394)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:11 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

ok you stupid baby

i wish polio and/or smallpox were still around and you chose to get them instead of submit to a mandatory vax

would love to see that, you tough stupid baby

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845403)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:00 PM
Author: Razzle public bath associate

lol, keep trying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846344)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:56 PM
Author: Hairraiser sick double fault

lol @ stupid baby

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846603)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:01 PM
Author: Cowardly Walnut Mood

See, the difference between your stance and mine is that if I were to come to your house and try to forcibly inject you with something you would submit. If you were to come to my house and try to forcibly inject me with something I would kill you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845331)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:03 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

Its not his fault. He actually cannot comprehend our position. I have these sorts of discussions more generally with my wife and women in my family. They just don't understand standing up for yourself even if it might come with big negative repercussions.

They always think about what they can do to constantly ensure the safety of themselves and their family at all expense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845343)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:21 PM
Author: Cowardly Walnut Mood

I've had some strange conversations recently with family members who submitted, where they tried to convince me that any action is justified if it might lead to short term material gain. Really made me rethink my general theory of sentience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845473)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:01 PM
Author: Razzle public bath associate

patrick henry is no more real to them than santa claus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846353)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:04 PM
Author: vivacious hall doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845344)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:07 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

lol you're a real tough guy

i bet when a cop pulls you over for not wearing a seatbelt, the first thing you do is execute him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845371)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:09 PM
Author: Cowardly Walnut Mood

Please explain in plain english the correlation between entering someone's dwelling uninvited and a traffic stop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845387)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:11 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

(seat belt cuck)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845409)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:14 PM
Author: Cowardly Walnut Mood

I'll wait until you can come up with a cogent response. Unlike you, I have a long time to wait.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845425)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:09 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

You honestly just don't understand. Your a hysterical women.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845388)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:42 PM
Author: turquoise big-titted brunch

Plenty of conservahero women would get it too. Some of the radtrad Catholic women in particular seem pretty fierce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845589)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:38 PM
Author: buff old irish cottage

Grown men don't take stances on stupid bullshit.

Being anti-vax is stupid bullshit.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846265)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:40 PM
Author: Cocky ocher roommate antidepressant drug

(stupid bullshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846280)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:02 PM
Author: Razzle public bath associate

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846356)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:28 AM
Author: Odious canary library

lmao at an unqualified "having principles" equating with being a "real man"

thoughts on principled pro-tranny shitlibs being real men?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848507)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:45 PM
Author: insane water buffalo stage

he's going to be immunocompromised. even if it wasn't a policy, he would be retarded to not be vaccinated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845249)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:47 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

Except that the vax wears off completely after 2-3 months for the immunocompromised and is practically useless at the combatting the present strains to begin with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845261)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:30 AM
Author: Odious canary library

Pfizer and Moderna boosters are 90% effective against omicron according to multiple studies that have come out the past week https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/22/boosters-90-effective-against-omicron-hospitalisations-study

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848514)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 10:16 PM
Author: supple dilemma brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43847904)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:44 PM
Author: floppy vermilion mexican therapy

let's keep it real here, there's no reason a heart should be wasted on this kid, would be a shame if he gets the heart instead of someone else and dies from COVID, and i get that xoxo is a bunch of tough guy redneck retards from nowhere mid west but just being pragmatic here, not worth risking a precious viable heart on someone this vulnerable when there are patients with better potential for recovery invariably on the Boston list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845245)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:45 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845253)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:51 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

What the fuck are you talking about? Being unvaxxed is like item #250 in terms of risk factors that would lower the usefulness of that heart.

Organ transplant lists, at best, have like 10 things that they take into account when prioritizing. If they were intellectually honest, they would tick off the other 239 things before getting to vax status.

If you want to have perfect proof that this is political and ideological and has nothing to do with health: They don't give an exception for people who have natural immunity.

Natural immunity is more effective than the vax, so you would think if they really cared about the life expectancy of an organ recipient, they would take that into account, but they dont.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845280)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:00 PM
Author: Orange nursing home kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845319)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:01 PM
Author: floppy vermilion mexican therapy

Look, I'm generally w/ the right on 99.999999% of all issues but a person getting a new heart has absolute shit immunity and if vaccine even incrementally improves his chances then he should take it and if he refuses to then it is a rational basis to skip him over on a list during peak covid. IF he's concerned about getting teh vax due to health reasons, it looks like this kid in particular has bigger health-related things to worry about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845325)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:03 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

huh? The vax has like 2 months of effectiveness for the immunocompromised in the first place. Also, when he first gets the transplant, they would initially hit him with drugs that would obliterate any antibodies induced by the vax anyway.

Forget principles for a second here, there is no scientific basis for this decision because of the nature of organ rejection medication.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845342)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:05 PM
Author: floppy vermilion mexican therapy

"there is no scientific basis for"...

the claims you are making.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845353)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:08 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

I'll repeat: The process to suppress your immune system, especially in preparation for and in the first few months following an organ transplant WIPES OUT ALL THE ANTIBODIES that the vax induces.

More generally, even people who received an organ years ago and are now on a more normalized level of immunosuppressing drugs, will still see the positive effects of the vax fade after 2-3 months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845378)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:11 PM
Author: floppy vermilion mexican therapy

noted, when I share this bit of wisdom w/ friends, can i cite "random basement dweller with no medical background who spends all afternoon on the most prestigious white supremacy boart on the net"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845406)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:16 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

Why do you think we went from dose 3 to dose 4 for immunocompromised people in the span of 2 months?

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/immunocompromised-people-can-receive-4th-covid-shot-cdc-says-rcna3933

The immunocompromised were already on dose 4 by October.

Now apply the conclusion as to the longevity of vax effectiveness to someone who is just about to receive an organ and is on 2x the dosage of immunosuppressant drugs as a normal organ recipient.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845439)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:18 PM
Author: floppy vermilion mexican therapy

so let me get this straight, your citation supports the idea that the immunodeficient should be getting more frequent boosters. and yet, you think this supports your argument that he shouldn't be vaxxed?

btw, if it makes you feel better, I think the heart should go to the person who has the best ratio of age and iq, which I assume wouldn't help this kid out either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845449)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:34 AM
Author: Odious canary library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848523)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 4:31 PM
Author: onyx point sound barrier

he's 100% right. i have a friend who got a bone marrow transplant as treatment for leukemia, and afterwards the Dr told him he should behave as though he were unvaxxed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845899)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:39 PM
Author: floppy vermilion mexican therapy

Did the doc advise your friend to not get vaxxed or to behave as though he's not vaxxed? Those are two different things. One is probably medical malpractice and the other is sound medical advice. So no, he's not "100% right" and your clumsy anecdote does not support his argument (e.g., it's the patient's right to refuse the vax and enjoy the benefits of scarce resources and the hospital is just being irrational/ideological).

here's more: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41581-021-00491-7



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846276)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:55 PM
Author: onyx point sound barrier

he was already vaxxed, so the latter. if we agree transplants wipe out immunity, that's an argument for waiting until after the procedure to get vaxxed (if not already)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846332)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:35 PM
Author: floppy vermilion mexican therapy

don't think it has been established that transplants wipe out immunity, on xoxo or otherwise. that would be akin to treating transplantees as HIV patients, and you would see them raondomly develop hodgkins lymphoma, carcinomas, etc. what I do think is true is that most rational ppl in his shoes would agree to vax in lieu of sacrificing self for a political cause - his health is obviously shit anyway, and the vax is the least of his concerns. at this juncture a strong breeze might be his demise let alone an airborne respiratory illness that is shown to cause severe cardiac symptoms. modern society is complicated and multifaceted and random individuals don't get a say in every rule for which they are bound by, which in this case, this rule at least arguably has a rational basis (qualified by "arguably" because neither of us has a meaningful clue re wtf we're talking about)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846510)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:47 PM
Author: Bossy dark yarmulke area

same. I know someone on drugs for rheumatoid arthritis that weaken the immune system was told she had no immunity despite being vaxxed and boosted. they gave her the antibody treatments that the FDA just banned today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846566)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 7:08 PM
Author: floppy vermilion mexican therapy

so this "person that you know" is taking the risk of cancer/pneumonia/certain death to treat her arthritis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846645)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 7:36 PM
Author: Bossy dark yarmulke area

yes. you don't need to use quotes and go fuck yourself rudolph, you 50 year old jewish homosexual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846773)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:02 AM
Author: Hairraiser sick double fault

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848449)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 1:06 AM
Author: Cocky ocher roommate antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848589)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 2:30 PM
Author: floppy vermilion mexican therapy

Agree that Rudolph is a 50 year old jewish homosexual, and I'd like to add, an unapologetic retard, but you should tell him that if it's important to remind him of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43851256)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 11:55 PM
Author: Infuriating trailer park boistinker

tell me you know nothing about RA without telling me you know nothing about RA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848435)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 10:59 AM
Author: Bossy dark yarmulke area

that old bitch who died of covid and whose family wrote in her obituary a screed blaming it on antivaxxers had RA and her immune system was fucked from the drugs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43849661)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 2:29 PM
Author: floppy vermilion mexican therapy

i really hate when people do this, but here's an upboat for you any way, reddit queer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43851242)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 1:00 AM
Author: Tan menage faggot firefighter

This is sorta right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848576)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 8:12 PM
Author: alcoholic henna church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43847068)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:33 AM
Author: Odious canary library

>Being unvaxxed is like item #250 in terms of risk factors that would lower the usefulness of that heart.

to get a transplant you have to take immunosuppression drugs and you continue to take them after the transplant for 6mos-1yr, so you're increasing your risk of dying from covid by a crazy amount

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848520)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 1:03 AM
Author: Tan menage faggot firefighter

So why not get vaxxed AFTER the transplant?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848581)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:54 PM
Author: Vibrant obsidian jap hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845291)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:54 PM
Author: bright wrinkle base

Guy is 31. Unvax he has a better life expectancy than the next person. And the way the transplants work, they kill off whatever immunity you have so he basically will have to get revaxed for everything (including childhood ones in some cases) after the operation anyway.

It’s a stupid rule, driven by politics and untethered to actual science as it relates to post-transplant survival. Now being that sick and not getting the vax in the first instance (assuming he was not infected and survived) is a different story. He is the type of person Covid kills (maybe not as much with omicron).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845293)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:55 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

yea, when you combined the fact that they don't take into account natural immunity AND the fact that the antibodies from the vax would be demolished once you start taking the immunosuppressant drugs, its clearly just a political move.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845295)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:00 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

i'm glad they're not wasting a heart on an obstinate moron. it's going to go to the next best candidate, who's not an obstinate moron, and that's a good thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845321)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:06 PM
Author: bright wrinkle base

On the one hand, he is 31 and needs a heart through no fault of his own. Most people who need transplants need them because they abused drugs or abused themselves.

On the other, it’s not clear why he is not taking it. If it was because of previous infection, to the mat. If he just does not want it, well his choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845361)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:11 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

Sure, but lets be clear; the policy that he needs to be vaxxed in order to receive the transplant is pure evil.

Its his choice, in the same way that if the hospital required you to pee on a bible to get the organ, him refusing to do that would also be his choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845404)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 4:00 PM
Author: Cocky ocher roommate antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845677)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:16 AM
Author: Infuriating trailer park boistinker

Comparing a hospital requiring a transplant patient to receive the covid vaccine to a requirement that prospective patients piss on a bible is just retarded man. Just incredibly dumb. Immunosuppressants don't completely wipe out your immune system. As the name suggests, they suppress it. This would absolutely decrease the efficacy of the vaccine, maybe to just a few percentage points above baseline, but there's a reason that the medical establishment recommends it for patients like this one.

Doctors are fucking judicious when it comes to transplant patients. Demand for organs far outstrips supply and if there's any indication that a prospective patient is unwilling to follow medical advice to a "T" they'll give it to somebody else.

https://youtu.be/JTK9FKxFrCw?t=111

There's a reason Scrubs is considered the most accurate medical show on TV.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848473)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:52 PM
Author: judgmental resort

(subhuman vax-cuckolded forever-faggot)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846588)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:06 PM
Author: Razzle public bath associate

here's as close as i can get to making it a reasonable requirement

from the article

"The hospital said it removed Ferguson from the donor list because all transplant recipients need to get the vaccine in order to 'create both the best chance for successful operation and also the patient’s survival after transplantation.'"

"The mortality rate for transplant recipients who fall ill with COVID is more than 20 percent, according to UCHealth. "

what does fall ill mean? over what time period?

from the internet:

"Survival — Approximately 85 to 90 percent of heart transplant patients are living one year after their surgery, with an annual death rate of approximately 4 percent thereafter. The three-year survival approaches 75 percent."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846370)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:41 AM
Author: Odious canary library

https://www.practiceupdate.com/content/covid-19-mortality-lower-for-vaccinated-solid-organ-transplant-recipients/122768/21/2/2

being unvaccinated increases your risk of covid death more than 50% over being double vaxxed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848533)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:12 PM
Author: Dun french kitchen ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845411)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:15 PM
Author: puce crusty chad

Nothing heroic about him IMO. Dude is going to voluntarily widow his family in his 30s for his stance and his kids will unfortunately but rightfully grow up to despise the thought of him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845433)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:16 PM
Author: aromatic stag film

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845442)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:17 AM
Author: Infuriating trailer park boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848475)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:30 PM
Author: motley burgundy voyeur toilet seat

Shitty policy but I would just get the vax here. But then again, my pragmatism is why libs are doing so well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845519)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:44 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

I'm probably in the same camp tbh. We need more men like him. Then we wouldn't have pedos groping kids in libraries and doctors chopping their dicks off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845605)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:54 PM
Author: motley burgundy voyeur toilet seat

OTOH, he's one less R voter. So I'm pretty conflicted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846595)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 11:35 AM
Author: Plum marvelous philosopher-king boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43849922)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:57 PM
Author: jet balding field windowlicker

Medical Q: Do vaccines work on people who have to be on immunosuppressants for the rest of their lives?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845666)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 4:14 PM
Author: Diverse charcoal bawdyhouse

Very good question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845772)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 4:26 PM
Author: Cowardly Walnut Mood

The vaccines are safe and effective. Cease this line of questioning or prepare for reassignment to the biofuel camps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845864)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 4:47 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Temple

No, that's why by October they were already giving them a 4th dose. That's about a dose every 2 months for strains that are increasingly avoiding vaccine protection to begin with.

Now layer on the fact that someone that is literally getting a transplant is going to be on a higher dose of immunosuppressant drugs and it's insane to think it offers any protection post surgery whatsoever.

Again you don't even need to make this case to know this policy is bullshit and pure evil. The fact that they don't have a natural immunity exception tells you all you need to know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846002)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:00 PM
Author: turquoise big-titted brunch

Also layer on the fact that “they” think such people are responsible for the variants. Didn’t omicron come from some such similar sickly bitch in South Africa?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846082)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:45 AM
Author: Odious canary library

Yes, but they (unsurprisingly) aren't as effective as in people not taking immunisuppressants

https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/covid-19-vaccine-elicits-antibody-response-in-90-of-people-taking-immunosuppressive-drugs/

90% of people taking immunosuppressants still produced covid antibodies after getting vaccinated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848540)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 4:15 PM
Author: Bossy dark yarmulke area

go away rudolph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43845780)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:02 PM
Author: Ivory fragrant death wish

Sounds like an idiot, tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846098)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:06 PM
Author: angry cracking macaca center

what a fucking dumbass. too bad he reproduced already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846123)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:08 PM
Author: Spectacular Deer Antler Legend

The sinister urge to dehumanize and discriminate has found a convenient new target among the ghouls. Expect an acceleration of animosity and punishment as more people realize they can satiate their powerful desires to inflict pain in a socially accepted manner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846137)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:57 PM
Author: judgmental resort

It's the well known case of slaves hating non-slaves more than their masters. That's how they try to assemble a self image that is not completely made of pure shit, which they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846605)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 11:36 AM
Author: Plum marvelous philosopher-king boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43849927)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:22 PM
Author: costumed contagious rehab cuckold

cows go moo crying "but we had a contract!" as the workers rip him to shreds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846205)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:59 PM
Author: Exhilarant godawful liquid oxygen

Hospital should be fire bombed. And admins not inside at the time should be hunted down at their homes.

But I would 100% cave here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846612)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 11:36 AM
Author: Plum marvelous philosopher-king boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43849928)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 11:37 AM
Author: motley burgundy voyeur toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43849935)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 7:04 PM
Author: Hairraiser sick double fault

OH WHAT A MAN OF PRINCIPLE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846628)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 7:14 PM
Author: Self-absorbed mind-boggling quadroon abode

Lots of evil congregating itt wow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846665)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 7:31 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Spot

fucked around, found out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846750)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 7:38 PM
Author: Bossy dark yarmulke area

you are a 50 year old jewish pedophile. stop looking at child porn you creepy freak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846790)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 7:34 PM
Author: Dashing mad cow disease

A real man doesn't do what anyone tells him to, ever, no matter the consequences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846766)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 7:35 PM
Author: arousing adulterous newt rigor

Its pretty arbitrary that they arrive at a Covid vax being a reason for transplant denial.

Have they ever denied a transplant to an older person who hasn't taken their annual flu shot? What about someone who never takes the flu shot?

Why not deny transplants to overweight individuals?

Or people with reckless driving convictions in the past 5 years?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846770)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 7:45 PM
Author: Hairraiser sick double fault

yea im sure they arrived at that policy decision by spinning a wheel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846826)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 7:52 PM
Author: Dashing mad cow disease

Of course transplant centers have BMI cutoffs, you baboon. Dunno about flu shot requirements; presumably it depends on whether not being vaccinated for the flu makes you much more likely to die and waste the organ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846870)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:32 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle heaven gaming laptop

“Much more likely to die”

LOL nice one NPC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848517)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:19 AM
Author: Infuriating trailer park boistinker

https://youtu.be/JTK9FKxFrCw?t=111

They deny people for all kinds of shit, not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848482)



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Date: January 25th, 2022 8:10 PM
Author: impressive indian lodge

how has nobody mentioned: his wife is hot, top outcome for that guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43847054)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 2:25 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Spot

his wife is a 4 and his heart would explode from fucking her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43851214)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:56 AM
Author: Trip soggy community account

No one shld care Abt Birdshit or nigga Insanity anymore, it's like goin to zoo and protesting how chimps or zebras behave

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848569)



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Date: January 26th, 2022 1:06 AM
Author: Cocky ocher roommate antidepressant drug



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Date: January 26th, 2022 2:35 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Spot

also this is just the daily mail doing clickbait. he'd never get a donor heart as a smoker anyway

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