31 y/o Anti-Vax Retard gives up HEART TRANSPLANT b/c won't get VAX
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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:41 PM Author: Learning Disabled Temple
When you have kids I think you need to bite the bullet here.
I respect his decision though. We need more men like that.
Puts the people who cuck to the vax because of a job in context.
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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:11 PM Author: aromatic stag film
ok you stupid baby
i wish polio and/or smallpox were still around and you chose to get them instead of submit to a mandatory vax
would love to see that, you tough stupid baby
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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:38 PM Author: buff old irish cottage
Grown men don't take stances on stupid bullshit.
Being anti-vax is stupid bullshit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846265)
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Date: January 25th, 2022 2:51 PM Author: Learning Disabled Temple
What the fuck are you talking about? Being unvaxxed is like item #250 in terms of risk factors that would lower the usefulness of that heart.
Organ transplant lists, at best, have like 10 things that they take into account when prioritizing. If they were intellectually honest, they would tick off the other 239 things before getting to vax status.
If you want to have perfect proof that this is political and ideological and has nothing to do with health: They don't give an exception for people who have natural immunity.
Natural immunity is more effective than the vax, so you would think if they really cared about the life expectancy of an organ recipient, they would take that into account, but they dont.
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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:16 PM Author: Learning Disabled Temple
Why do you think we went from dose 3 to dose 4 for immunocompromised people in the span of 2 months?
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/immunocompromised-people-can-receive-4th-covid-shot-cdc-says-rcna3933
The immunocompromised were already on dose 4 by October.
Now apply the conclusion as to the longevity of vax effectiveness to someone who is just about to receive an organ and is on 2x the dosage of immunosuppressant drugs as a normal organ recipient.
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Date: January 25th, 2022 5:39 PM Author: floppy vermilion mexican therapy
Did the doc advise your friend to not get vaxxed or to behave as though he's not vaxxed? Those are two different things. One is probably medical malpractice and the other is sound medical advice. So no, he's not "100% right" and your clumsy anecdote does not support his argument (e.g., it's the patient's right to refuse the vax and enjoy the benefits of scarce resources and the hospital is just being irrational/ideological).
here's more: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41581-021-00491-7
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846276)
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Date: January 25th, 2022 3:11 PM Author: Learning Disabled Temple
Sure, but lets be clear; the policy that he needs to be vaxxed in order to receive the transplant is pure evil.
Its his choice, in the same way that if the hospital required you to pee on a bible to get the organ, him refusing to do that would also be his choice.
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Date: January 26th, 2022 12:16 AM Author: Infuriating trailer park boistinker
Comparing a hospital requiring a transplant patient to receive the covid vaccine to a requirement that prospective patients piss on a bible is just retarded man. Just incredibly dumb. Immunosuppressants don't completely wipe out your immune system. As the name suggests, they suppress it. This would absolutely decrease the efficacy of the vaccine, maybe to just a few percentage points above baseline, but there's a reason that the medical establishment recommends it for patients like this one.
Doctors are fucking judicious when it comes to transplant patients. Demand for organs far outstrips supply and if there's any indication that a prospective patient is unwilling to follow medical advice to a "T" they'll give it to somebody else.
https://youtu.be/JTK9FKxFrCw?t=111
There's a reason Scrubs is considered the most accurate medical show on TV.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43848473) |
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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:06 PM Author: Razzle public bath associate
here's as close as i can get to making it a reasonable requirement
from the article
"The hospital said it removed Ferguson from the donor list because all transplant recipients need to get the vaccine in order to 'create both the best chance for successful operation and also the patient’s survival after transplantation.'"
"The mortality rate for transplant recipients who fall ill with COVID is more than 20 percent, according to UCHealth. "
what does fall ill mean? over what time period?
from the internet:
"Survival — Approximately 85 to 90 percent of heart transplant patients are living one year after their surgery, with an annual death rate of approximately 4 percent thereafter. The three-year survival approaches 75 percent."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846370)
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Date: January 25th, 2022 4:47 PM Author: Learning Disabled Temple
No, that's why by October they were already giving them a 4th dose. That's about a dose every 2 months for strains that are increasingly avoiding vaccine protection to begin with.
Now layer on the fact that someone that is literally getting a transplant is going to be on a higher dose of immunosuppressant drugs and it's insane to think it offers any protection post surgery whatsoever.
Again you don't even need to make this case to know this policy is bullshit and pure evil. The fact that they don't have a natural immunity exception tells you all you need to know
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Date: January 25th, 2022 6:59 PM Author: Exhilarant godawful liquid oxygen
Hospital should be fire bombed. And admins not inside at the time should be hunted down at their homes.
But I would 100% cave here.
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Date: January 25th, 2022 7:35 PM Author: arousing adulterous newt rigor
Its pretty arbitrary that they arrive at a Covid vax being a reason for transplant denial.
Have they ever denied a transplant to an older person who hasn't taken their annual flu shot? What about someone who never takes the flu shot?
Why not deny transplants to overweight individuals?
Or people with reckless driving convictions in the past 5 years?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5016554&forum_id=2#43846770)
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