Why does it bother people that Jews remember 6m of their own who were murdered?
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Date: January 27th, 2022 11:44 PM Author: pale casino electric furnace
That's not what bothers people, I think you know this - if it were a parochial ordeal nobody would care that they were holding ritualistic remembrances within their own communities or whatever
It's the complete hijacking of our entire moral & ethical framework where morality only exists in spatial relationship to the holocaust, and that's it (I can't remember name but guy wrote a book about how *everything*, from the toothpaste we buy to political rhetoric etc is informed by holocaust)
The Holocaust is the foundation for liberal morality - all leftist moral arguments trace back to the holocaust. All roads lead to rome, all leftist morality leads to the holocaust - eg Trump was evil, why? wall -> nationalism which is evil because the holocaust
It's because we've reached religious levels of unquestionable foundations - leftist moral universe can be viewed spatially - things nearest to the center of the black hole holocaust are the most evil, the farther away you get the more you progress towards good - it's degenerated into such childish notions like open borders is good because it's inclusive which is the opposite of excluding (like you know who)
Denial of racial differences, etc
Even the left's censorious nature today is because in middle school they learn that a maniac did the holocaust because he was good at public speaking and whipped his nation into a genocidal frenzy - very easy to see how the left treat's speech with regard for this 'danger'
Spatial model works with time dimension too - it's [current year!] for God's sake! Why is this an argument? because we're progressing away from leftist notions of original sin - which for the right exists as a metaphor / statement of human nature, but for the left, like with everything, it's just ethics / social / political
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Then there's just the pure objectivity of it - the more you become an autist about history the more the holocaust worship becomes really strange - what if schools were required to devote time / textbook pages that were proportional to the number of lives lost in a genocide / historical event?
It's pretty obvious the brute force employed to make *everyone* remember this tragedy with such disproportionate attention that people have no response when you remind them of the numbers in Maoist China , soviet union, cambodia etc etc - or even u.s. firebombing of japan, allied firebombing of germany, the rape of berlin / red army march toward berlin, and so on
In true lib fashion - there's a sort of bigotry of low expectations where we scold the nazis because they were white men who should've known better - whereas we expect this behavior from devious Asiatic peoples
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Date: January 28th, 2022 1:13 AM Author: pale casino electric furnace
Thanks brother - yes I think you're spot on about that - it was clicking in my mind when I was typing out the very end that it not only applies to the Holocaust, but eg civil rights and their one-dimensional model of 'progress', derision of historical culture, and monomaniacal belief in progress
You can interpret almost all their behavior this way, even eg Russia or covid experts being challenged - both threats to their spatial moral universe which is simplistic, leftist and utopian - where intellectuals and politicians will lead the way and refashion society and culture
Every liberal I know asked ZERO questions about wokeness, they openly embraced it without question and resistors just as 'outdated' or not going along.. the *different* and *change* they viewed as an inherent good in itself, because it places more terrain spatially between them and the bad
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Date: January 29th, 2022 12:05 AM Author: aromatic smoky pit giraffe
Excellent poast. The "holocaust as foundation of lib morality" thing reminds of me of Godwin's Law.
"Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies, is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1. In less mathematical terms, the longer the discussion, the more likely a Nazi comparison becomes, and with long enough discussions, it is a certainty."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
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Date: January 29th, 2022 2:13 AM Author: pale casino electric furnace
100%
I've heard that natural selection is the only true right wing force , and they correctly perceive "the fascist aesthetic" - not as actually being fascist, but that there is something inherently right-wing about vitality , body-building, self-improvement etc
The generation that learned ww2 this way in its school history texts is the same one that become hysterical when someone 'dangerous' speaks at their university - there's a lot going on there too with the digital world and how they were raised etc, but i think you're right on about this association
One example to drive home your point - our CFO came to our office to speak one time, and he's very tall, booming masculine voice, extremely wealthy / successful etc - and a co-worker that's a younger leftist full sjw / woke whatever was in a conference room with me when our boss asked how [CFO] was and what he was like - leftist co-worker said he seemed like a villain / comic book villain or something
This comment *really* stuck with me - that he found white male masculinity / success / vitality / charism and good speaking skills "evil" by association
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Date: January 27th, 2022 11:55 PM Author: heady pea-brained police squad
just wondering why there is a holocaust museum in Nebraska, Midwest, USA, North American Continent, given that this occurred in Poland, Europe
http://www.nebraskaholocaustmemorial.org/
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Date: January 29th, 2022 1:56 AM Author: pale casino electric furnace
Once you see it it's everywhere - just a few months ago that image went viral with the border agent on horse looking like he was going to whip the poor black immigrant that just wanted a better life!
We know the guy on the horse was the bad guy because every Netflix show regurgitates corporate neoliberal values and reinforces the nonsense spewing out of universities, tech HR departments etc such that when the citizen sees that image on the news he recognizes the semiotics of the oppressor - good guy and bad guy - that's been reinforced by hollywood / netflix
You will *never* find second order reasoning in the lib mind - it will not, and cannot - come into play - the tension may be so severe that the issue has to be memory-holed / ignored - but you will never see the liberal hivemind make an argument based on 2nd order (or unintended) consequences - the only principle is that there is no limiting principle - that injustice might spring from the *difference* before it springs from power does nothing to constrain the mimetic force of the lib
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:26 AM Author: Exhilarant dysfunction
it's because we hear about it constantly 80 years later. there have been other, shockingly worse genocides, throughout human history and no one cares. why do we get this one served up over and over and over? why are there holocaust museums all over the world, but i've never seen a communist genocide museum? why have the jews fought for decades to keep it their exclusive tragedy when so many other groups, especially gypsies, were involved?
everyone should learn about it, and everyone should remember it, but there's so much angling around it that you've got to ask what's really going on.
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:54 AM Author: tripping primrose locale
Didn’t Jared Diamond have something to say on this.
Genocides happen all the time, w every group. And then after they happen, authorities do their best to destroy evidence of the event, to deny that it took place or ever happened. And generally speaking, they are pretty successful.
Regarding the Jewish holocaust, which was massive in scale, the Jews worldwide happen to have clout enough to make sure that this particular genocide is never forgotten. Have they gone too far with this? Have they brought it so much to the public attention that it’s actually counterproductive?
This is real talk. Not crazy shit.
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Date: January 29th, 2022 2:05 AM Author: pale casino electric furnace
Lately I've been thinking that wokeism - the "successor ideology" - is in some ways a fix for this, in that it allows the elites to pick up a newly sharpened bludgeon for social control based on humanitarian values / universalism , but this tool is handcrafted for the new generation that is rabidly pro-palestine and too disconnected from WW2 (but there's that black boy ernest in their tech company office , he's really nice and has glasses how could anyone be racist against him? must be evil)
In this sense wokeism can be seen as the population needing a re-guilting narrative shoved down their throats so that they can use the humanitarian bludgeon
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017901&forum_id=2#43866900)
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Date: January 28th, 2022 10:27 PM Author: Electric Toaster
Why is it that Jews get their own word for discrimination? Everyone else gets “racism” but the Jews get “anti semitism.”
Why is it that Jews get their own word for atrocities? Everyone else gets “genocide” but Jews get “Holocaust.”
Hmmmm…
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