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Bought a Breville espresso machine on a whim. CR purchase?
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:27 AM Author: Costumed Locale Any tips on getting good at pulling shots? I got the Pro for $550 brand new, seemed like a cr deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570677) |
Date: May 25th, 2022 11:31 AM Author: Costumed Locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570701) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:31 AM Author: Hilarious gas station Most impactful thing you can do is buy a good grinder. Niche Zero would be a good pairing.
Next after that would be develop a consistent puck prep routine so you can dial in against as few variables as possible. IMO minimum process should be grind into portafilter (probably with a funnel/rim), do WDT, and tamp. |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:35 AM Author: Costumed Locale thanks i have to be honest while i love a good espresso i'm not a connoisseur, i really am just tired of spending $$$ on nespresso pods and was told that these machines can make drinks comparable to most coffee shops. with that in mind would the built-in grinder not be sufficient? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570731) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:47 AM Author: Hilarious gas station Depends on your palate I guess. I can’t imagine the espresso being good but if you’re accustomed to Starbucks or bury your coffee in milk/sugar/whatever you may like it just fine.
For all the hassle that making home espresso can be I wouldn’t get into it for less than a strong grinder and machine pairing and that probably means spending at least $1500-2000. |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:53 AM Author: Costumed Locale noted. i really am just a cheapass and have more time than money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570872) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 2:02 PM Author: Chest-beating theatre I assume that you've never tried one of these Breville machines if you're writing this. They produce phenomenal espresso for significantly less. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44589850) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:58 AM Author: dull cuck pit My breville has a grinder built into it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570903) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 1:54 PM Author: Chest-beating theatre As it should. The one thing you should note is that the grinder is adjustable. We had to make the grinds significantly smaller to get it to brew just right. There are a bunch of guides on YouTube for everything for these machines. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44589790) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:22 PM Author: disrespectful wine mood fuh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44571890) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:35 AM Author: Razzle Painfully Honest Goyim Very stupid purchase (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570733) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:41 AM Author: Costumed Locale I remember Mandy and TMF would rave about their Breville ljl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570776) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 1:53 PM Author: Chest-beating theatre Present. Absolutely love that thing. Well worth it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44589783) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 3:13 PM Author: Costumed Locale I still need to dial this thing down, my espresso is a little watery. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44590129) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 8:05 PM Author: Chest-beating theatre Yeah, that means you need to set your grinds finer. IIRC, it should take 30-40 seconds for proper extraction. If it is taking less time than that then you need to set the grind finer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44591223) |
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Date: June 1st, 2022 9:44 PM Author: federal halford Are you tamping it down? Also if you have a built in grinder, you need to let it grind, tamp it, then once you tamp it you have extra room so grind a bit more and tamp it again. That's what gets you the rich smooth expresso. The breville is amazing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44611439) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 2:00 PM Author: Chest-beating theatre I can't imagine this being a "stupid purchase" if you regularly drink coffee/espresso. 2 people @ $5/drink /day = $10/day. It costs like $700. You break even in 70 days and the espresso it produces is just as good as pro places. I guess you use milk/espresso beans too. Let's make it 3 months even. An additional perk is that it is right there as you wake up. No need to go somewhere. As you're on your first morning call you can make a latte. Pretty 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44589840) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:43 AM Author: supple silver place of business They are basically non-serviceable. It will run until the pump dies and then you will have to toss it. I'd give it ~2 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570792) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:59 AM Author: dull cuck pit I’ve had mine for 3 years. Wife mostly uses it and she uses it incorrectly. Has saved me on Starbucks though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570912) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 12:01 PM Author: supple silver place of business I'm not saying it's a bad buy. I'm saying the difference between a $500 espresso machine and a $1500 isn't the quality of the coffree or anything, it's the quality and reliability of the pump inside the machine. Serviceable espresso machines can be bought used and kept essentially forever. It's all stainless steel, copper and rubber in there. It's also about pump design. You want rotary. These brevilles use vibratory design. That's why it sounds like an electric toothbrush when you use it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570928) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 12:11 PM Author: Costumed Locale tbf it's an $800 machine and people online rave about breville's service (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44571006) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 12:14 PM Author: supple silver place of business How long is warranty? The fact that all these people even need Breville to service the machines it telling. In the rare event that you encounter difficulty with a rotary pump, you should be able to have a local fix it or do it yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44571022) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 12:23 PM Author: Costumed Locale 2 years brother. let's see. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44571081) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 4:01 PM Author: magenta philosopher-king Those copper boilers take 15 minutes minimum to warm up. Breville takes, very literally, 3 to 5 seconds. Pair the Breville with a decent grinder as was said upthread and you've got yourself a great home setup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44572398) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 4:03 PM Author: Costumed Locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44572408) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 2:33 PM Author: Chest-beating theatre You don't even need a separate grinder. You just have to make sure to appropriately adjust the built in grinder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44589998) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:55 AM Author: Outnumbered vivacious multi-billionaire national security agency I've got a Jura. Like it a lot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570888) |
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Date: June 1st, 2022 9:46 PM Author: federal halford We actually got one of those as well. When the Breville broke down and needed to get serviced we decided we needed a backup. It takes weeks to get the Breville serviced and no way I can function without coffee that long. I did not like the Jura. The expresso comes out watery and less smooth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44611454) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 11:55 AM Author: comical national you have to stick it up your ass. I think it's called civet style (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44570891) |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 12:24 PM Author: flesh legal warrant parlour These are actually pretty good machines. My buddy has one and makes me lattes and shit all the time and they're always very good. He just uses good beans. The machine is pretty idiot proof you just need to tamp the shot.
Even the milk frother is designed for your average idiot to use and gets the milk to a very good consistency without having to know what you're doing like a typical steam wand.
No idea about longevity but he's had his for 3 years.
At my office we have a terra kaffe with is great for a full automatic but I think his breville makes better coffee. |
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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:53 PM Author: Costumed Locale 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44572083) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 1:55 PM Author: Chest-beating theatre You MUST use good fresh beans.
For longevity my first one lasted 5-6 years. We've dragged that thing all across the country so it's been pretty heavily abused over the years. I'm on my second now and we've had it for about a year. |
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Date: May 26th, 2022 1:33 AM Author: fragrant doobsian really tough guy codepig Got one as a gift a while ago and I use it every day. It’s 180. I have a separate grinder and I use oatly oat milk with the steamer thing. Trick is to shake up the carton before you pour it into the metal cup thing to steam. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44575550) |
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Date: May 26th, 2022 1:41 AM Author: Costumed Locale I just set it up tonight. What’s your cleaning routine? Do you actually run a shot of water before and after pulling espresso? Also the steamer will take some getting used to, I got a bunch of milk all over because I pulled out a little too much. But 180 I’ll try Oatly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44575569) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 1:57 PM Author: Chest-beating theatre I never run a shot of water after pulling espresso. Just dump the grinds, run some water through the portafilter and you're ready to go again. I don't use the steamer at all - that's a weak point for the machine. The one time we sent it in for service was because the steamer died. My wife largely steams milk separately on the stovetop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44589819) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 3:11 PM Author: Costumed Locale Interesting, thanks Fish. I'm not sure how much of my routine is unnecessary.
1. Run one cup shot (without grinds) to warm up portafilter.
2. Grind coffee, tamp, run shot.
3. Throw out grinds.
4. Run another shot without portafilter attached, then wipe down group head with a napkin/towel.
5. Rinse portafilter. Do you actually remove the filter basket or just a straight rinse with basket inserted?
It sounds like you do no part of #4? How often do you clean the group head, just through the tablets and descaling process? I did wonder if I was introducing napkin microfibers to the group head and how good that was for the machine. |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 8:09 PM Author: Chest-beating theatre 1. Run one cup shot (without grinds) to warm up portafilter.
TMF: Not necessary. Go straight to 2. 2 and 3 are good.
2. Grind coffee, tamp, run shot.
3. Throw out grinds.
4. Run another shot without portafilter attached, then wipe down group head with a napkin/towel.
TMF: Nope, skip that too.
5. Rinse portafilter. Do you actually remove the filter basket or just a straight rinse with basket inserted?
TMF: Nope, not necessary. Just run under some water for a few seconds.
It sounds like you do no part of #4? How often do you clean the group head, just through the tablets and descaling process? I did wonder if I was introducing napkin microfibers to the group head and how good that was for the machine.
TMF: I have the BES878 now and had the BES870 before. Both will tell you when you need to clean them. YouTube has good vids for both that will tell you exactly how to descale. It is really easy. You'll use one of the filters, put in the rubber stopper, put in a tablet and run the setting. Then it'll need 2-3 minutes and you'll be good.
Overall, this is a super easy machine to live with. |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 10:26 PM Author: Costumed Locale 180. I have the 878 as well. Thanks, seriously. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44591840) |
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Date: June 1st, 2022 9:35 PM Author: Chest-beating theatre NP, let me know if you have qs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44611374) |
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Date: June 1st, 2022 9:50 PM Author: federal halford You should tamp twice, otherwise your shots come out watery. Grind until the portafilter is full, tamp and then you will have more space, grind a few more seconds and tamp again. I also put a pinch of ground vanilla right in the with ground beans but that's me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44611474) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 8:06 PM Author: passionate garnet sneaky criminal marketing idea prole alert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44591228) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 8:11 PM Author: Chest-beating theatre Not at all, the prole solution is either McDonalds/DD coffee or a Mr. Coffee drip coffee machine. Or for MAX PROLE you can do instant coffee. All absolutely disgusting but cheap. A nice espresso machine that you use to make excellent espresso at home is the opposite of prole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44591259) |
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Date: May 28th, 2022 8:07 PM Author: grizzly zippy stag film Yes it’s great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#44591231) |
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Date: March 9th, 2023 9:17 AM Author: Cracking voyeur These things are so cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#46028702) |
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Date: March 9th, 2023 9:27 AM Author: supple silver place of business They're great for 2 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116503&forum_id=2#46028731) |