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Have to be 25 to rent a car. Why not to own a semi-automatic weapon?

Seems like a very reasonable step. Most of these school m...
lascivious potus
  05/25/22
How about we continue to reject any and all gun restrictions...
Walnut Garrison
  05/25/22
Pass.
lascivious potus
  05/25/22
Lol “pass” all you want faggot, not happening.
Stimulating jap famous landscape painting
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Walnut Garrison
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arousing gas station toaster
  05/25/22
If you’re going to raise the age of maturity across th...
rusted marketing idea french chef
  05/25/22
A lot of these shootings are occurring because the individua...
lascivious potus
  05/25/22
federalist paper 31 contemplated the universal human right t...
crimson narrow-minded fanboi stage
  05/25/22
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lascivious potus
  05/25/22
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Walnut Garrison
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titillating bossy house
  05/25/22
Federalist 31 was written at a time when people still shat i...
brass mother
  05/25/22
this subthread is specifically about the car rental componen...
crimson narrow-minded fanboi stage
  05/25/22
Cool. So... enforce the laws we currently have. If he ha...
Lime supple chapel cuckold
  05/25/22
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sable business firm
  05/25/22
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Lime supple chapel cuckold
  05/25/22
Because one requires government action expressly prohibited ...
Marvelous Police Squad Clown
  05/25/22
Bro, do you have a right to own a bazooka - yes or no?
lascivious potus
  05/25/22
It’s legal to own a bazooka. It’s also legal...
Violent theatre
  05/25/22
Even the most notable conservative Supreme Court justice, th...
lascivious potus
  05/25/22
yes
Gaped underhanded parlour
  05/25/22
don't bother. no number of dead children will change people...
Vivacious gold hairy legs
  05/25/22
Correct. Now kindly fuck off.
Walnut Garrison
  05/25/22
This sounds vaguely hysterical and woman-like What notab...
Stimulating jap famous landscape painting
  05/25/22
Libs could care less about dead children, lol come on dude. ...
glittery kitchen
  05/25/22
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cyan beady-eyed hominid resort
  05/25/22
you're an idiot or a liar. if you cared about dead children...
Vivacious gold hairy legs
  05/25/22
How would more law abiding citizens carrying guns lead to mo...
Haunting plum ticket booth associate
  05/25/22
oh that's a good idea just outlaw shooting children. wonder...
Vivacious gold hairy legs
  05/25/22
cr
Cracking Maroon Center
  05/25/22
Now do abortion
swashbuckling legend
  05/25/22
liberals don't care one iota about unwanted dead unborn chil...
Vivacious gold hairy legs
  05/25/22
By far more kids are killed by guns in cities with very rest...
titillating bossy house
  05/25/22
I make no claims in my post at all outside of the fact that ...
glittery kitchen
  05/25/22
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titillating bossy house
  05/25/22
Yes, banning all guns will literally solve the issue in thei...
Haunting plum ticket booth associate
  05/25/22
TBF, banning guns with chainsaw bayonets should reduce gun d...
glittery kitchen
  05/25/22
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cyan beady-eyed hominid resort
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crimson narrow-minded fanboi stage
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Concupiscible confused meetinghouse shitlib
  05/25/22
Let me go out on a limb and guess you think the voting age s...
ivory theater corn cake
  05/25/22
good one
glittery kitchen
  05/25/22
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cyan beady-eyed hominid resort
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sable business firm
  05/25/22
The constitution doesn't say anything about cars that's why.
Sienna laughsome set
  05/25/22
Cars are bad for the environment
Provocative Institution
  05/25/22
How bout to vote? Or have an abortion?
Gay trip national
  05/25/22
How about deciding to medically cut your dick off
glittery kitchen
  05/25/22
Vote? I'd be OK with 25. Abortion would be up to a patien...
lascivious potus
  05/25/22
(roastie who wants to murder her own kid)
ivory theater corn cake
  05/26/22
Hey moron. It's because some 250-year-old document says the ...
Idiotic mediation native
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“250-year-old document… We have to listen to an...
multi-colored splenetic sweet tailpipe
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sable business firm
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lascivious potus
  05/25/22
Not flame, Cars are much more dangerous than guns
Exhilarant tanning salon
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titillating bossy house
  05/25/22
believe me, they’ll come for those too eventually.
crimson narrow-minded fanboi stage
  05/25/22
I would enthusiastically support any law that put up additio...
Shivering heaven degenerate
  05/25/22
should have be a grand felony to sex have and cig smoke and ...
Insecure Excitant Private Investor
  05/25/22
You have a whole lot of people in the US who actually believ...
Curious French Circlehead
  05/26/22
yeah like how the war on drugs stopped people from using dru...
ivory theater corn cake
  05/26/22
Guns are not widely available in countries that have serious...
Curious French Circlehead
  05/26/22
Maybe we could compromise and just ban homicide.
Lime supple chapel cuckold
  05/26/22
homicide-free zones in schools and churches
ivory theater corn cake
  05/26/22


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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:06 PM
Author: lascivious potus

Seems like a very reasonable step.

Most of these school mass shootings are done by people 20 or under.

You can still go hunting and own shotguns, revolvers and hunting rifles. Just not mass casualty weapons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571354)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:06 PM
Author: Walnut Garrison

How about we continue to reject any and all gun restrictions because you're all fucking faggots?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571357)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:07 PM
Author: lascivious potus

Pass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571366)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:15 PM
Author: Stimulating jap famous landscape painting

Lol “pass” all you want faggot, not happening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571418)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:22 PM
Author: Walnut Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571449)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 4:21 PM
Author: arousing gas station toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572543)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:07 PM
Author: rusted marketing idea french chef

If you’re going to raise the age of maturity across the board this would actually be moderately effective

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571365)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:08 PM
Author: lascivious potus

A lot of these shootings are occurring because the individuals are angry at the places they are or were. If you raise the age to 25 it negates that major piece of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571372)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:12 PM
Author: crimson narrow-minded fanboi stage

federalist paper 31 contemplated the universal human right to rent a car at any age but it didn’t make the final cut i guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571397)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:14 PM
Author: lascivious potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571410)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:23 PM
Author: Walnut Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571457)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:44 PM
Author: Dull Racy Step-uncle's House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571643)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:03 PM
Author: tan nursing home feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571773)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:09 PM
Author: Cracking Maroon Center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571803)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:14 PM
Author: titillating bossy house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571837)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 3:03 PM
Author: brass mother

Federalist 31 was written at a time when people still shat in holes in the ground, rode horses, and didn't understand germ theory. Times change. This is one of those times. In 2022 Pablo the Angry Mexican Castout With Obvious Mental Issues shouldn't be able to buy an AR-15 the day after he turns 18 nor should he be able to go out and get 400 bullets "just 'cuz."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572142)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 3:19 PM
Author: crimson narrow-minded fanboi stage

this subthread is specifically about the car rental component of op’s proposition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572222)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 10:50 PM
Author: Lime supple chapel cuckold

Cool. So... enforce the laws we currently have.

If he had "obvious mental issues" but nothing was done about it, sue his grandmother, his mom, and everyone else around him that knew or should have known he was a danger to others and did nothing about it. Civil liability for negligence in the face of foreseeable consequences is very much alive.

So the only question remaining is this: do you really want to do something about the problem? or do you just want to use it as an excuse to disarm Americans and soften the target of your commie takeover?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44574691)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 4:22 PM
Author: sable business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572551)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 10:46 PM
Author: Lime supple chapel cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44574670)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:14 PM
Author: Marvelous Police Squad Clown

Because one requires government action expressly prohibited by the constitution and the other doesn't?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571409)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:14 PM
Author: lascivious potus

Bro, do you have a right to own a bazooka - yes or no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571414)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:17 PM
Author: Violent theatre

It’s legal to own a bazooka.

It’s also legal for 22 year olds to rent a car. Rental companies just charge extra.

Otherwise you’re on fire with the hypos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571424)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:22 PM
Author: lascivious potus

Even the most notable conservative Supreme Court justice, the late Antonin Scalia, wrote: “Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited.” It is “not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.” He went on to say “that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’”

Not unless you have a special license granted by the ATF, can you own a bazooka. They are generally illegal to own and are not a protected weapon under the 2nd Amendment.

Renting a car at younger than 25 is not a right, it is a privilege that many car companies do no extend.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571451)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:29 PM
Author: Gaped underhanded parlour

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571500)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:22 PM
Author: Vivacious gold hairy legs

don't bother. no number of dead children will change people's minds on this. even if every single child in america was shot dead before turning 18, there would be no support for gun restrictions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571443)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:23 PM
Author: Walnut Garrison

Correct. Now kindly fuck off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571453)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:24 PM
Author: Stimulating jap famous landscape painting

This sounds vaguely hysterical and woman-like

What notable fempoaster is this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571460)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:26 PM
Author: glittery kitchen

Libs could care less about dead children, lol come on dude. Libs get crazy about school shootings because they think that these events are persuasive in their efforts to try to disarm law abiding American citizens. Guess what, shitlib pumo, school shootings reinforce why law-abiding citizens need to carry guns, not the opposite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571474)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:33 PM
Author: cyan beady-eyed hominid resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571536)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:09 PM
Author: Vivacious gold hairy legs

you're an idiot or a liar. if you cared about dead children, you'd support gun restrictions. your claim that more guns will lead to less dead children is utterly stupid and wrong.

all am saying is that people of your political leanings do not care about dead children, so pointing to dead children won't convince you of anything. spare me the nonsense or lies about your preferred politics saving children, though--your politics kill children and that's something you just need to be ok with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571799)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:10 PM
Author: Haunting plum ticket booth associate

How would more law abiding citizens carrying guns lead to more dead children?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571810)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:12 PM
Author: Vivacious gold hairy legs

oh that's a good idea just outlaw shooting children. wonder why nobody did that already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571825)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:10 PM
Author: Cracking Maroon Center

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571812)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:12 PM
Author: swashbuckling legend

Now do abortion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571821)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:13 PM
Author: Vivacious gold hairy legs

liberals don't care one iota about unwanted dead unborn children, and they'll all happily admit that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571832)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:24 PM
Author: titillating bossy house

By far more kids are killed by guns in cities with very restrictive gun laws. Why not start there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571905)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:25 PM
Author: glittery kitchen

I make no claims in my post at all outside of the fact that libs don't give a shit about human life - I've watched the last few years you motherfuckers wish for the death of your enemies and I believe the wish is sincere (EDIT: for instance, https://twitter.com/theericklouis/status/1529442712981757952

. Libs are in charge of the most dangerous places in America, and what do you do - you elect DA's that make them that more dangerous. It is horrible that 20 or so people died in a mass shooting and my heart hurts for those families, but that's about how many people get murdered in Chicago in a bad summer week and you guys spend your time complaining that stop and frisk is racists and OMG the police. I won't even bring up the born alive bills that libs oppose, much less abortion. When that black dude killed a bunch of people at a Christmas parade, including children, libs could have cared less. Get fucked, libs care about politics above all.

I don't know that less gun restriction will lead to less school shootings any more than you know that more gun restrictions will lead to less school shootings. However, I know that these kind of shootings are a reminder that there are evil horrendous people in the world and I hope I'm armed if I encounter one of them.

Though, I am enjoying your overly emotional histrionics on the issue. Maybe you can explain to me, since I am an idiot liar, how whatever gun restriction libs come up with is going to prevent school shootings? Do you think that banning guns that are painted black will magically solve this issue?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571914)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:37 PM
Author: titillating bossy house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571979)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:40 PM
Author: Haunting plum ticket booth associate

Yes, banning all guns will literally solve the issue in their view

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571996)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:43 PM
Author: glittery kitchen

TBF, banning guns with chainsaw bayonets should reduce gun deaths AND chainsaw deaths.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572016)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:42 PM
Author: cyan beady-eyed hominid resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572011)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:52 PM
Author: crimson narrow-minded fanboi stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572078)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:23 PM
Author: Concupiscible confused meetinghouse shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571454)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:23 PM
Author: ivory theater corn cake

Let me go out on a limb and guess you think the voting age should be 16 and that voter ID is racist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571458)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:28 PM
Author: glittery kitchen

good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571493)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:33 PM
Author: cyan beady-eyed hominid resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571534)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 4:22 PM
Author: sable business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572554)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:27 PM
Author: Sienna laughsome set

The constitution doesn't say anything about cars that's why.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571482)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:34 PM
Author: Provocative Institution

Cars are bad for the environment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571538)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:36 PM
Author: Gay trip national

How bout to vote? Or have an abortion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571563)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:43 PM
Author: glittery kitchen

How about deciding to medically cut your dick off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571632)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 1:47 PM
Author: lascivious potus

Vote? I'd be OK with 25.

Abortion would be up to a patient and a doctor. No govt intervention is necessary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571657)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 2:17 AM
Author: ivory theater corn cake

(roastie who wants to murder her own kid)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44575642)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:34 PM
Author: Idiotic mediation native

Hey moron. It's because some 250-year-old document says the word ARMS. There is nothing in that document that says CARS.

We have to listen to and follow that document as it infallibly considered and took into every facet of modern life and forever in the future. And no, don't you dare question it or think it does not have the answers. Also, the bible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44571968)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:41 PM
Author: multi-colored splenetic sweet tailpipe

“250-year-old document… We have to listen to and follow that document… infallibly… forever in the future.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Procedures_for_amending_the_Constitution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572006)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 4:22 PM
Author: sable business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572556)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 3:12 PM
Author: lascivious potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572177)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:40 PM
Author: Exhilarant tanning salon

Not flame, Cars are much more dangerous than guns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572000)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:43 PM
Author: titillating bossy house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572017)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 2:55 PM
Author: crimson narrow-minded fanboi stage

believe me, they’ll come for those too eventually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572091)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 4:11 PM
Author: Shivering heaven degenerate

I would enthusiastically support any law that put up additional barriers to car ownership and operation by impaired aggressive incompetent proles driving a vehicle that has been in 3 unrepaired accidents and not watching the road. I am way more worried about this shit than I am about being shot based on statistics and observations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572470)



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Date: May 25th, 2022 3:13 PM
Author: Insecure Excitant Private Investor

should have be a grand felony to sex have and cig smoke and beer drink before 25

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44572190)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 2:41 AM
Author: Curious French Circlehead

You have a whole lot of people in the US who actually believe the government couldn’t reduce homicides by banning guns. So naturally these people think it’s wrong to pass an ineffective law which otherwise harms the lawabiding gun owners. The gun lobby has really done its work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44575673)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 2:43 AM
Author: ivory theater corn cake

yeah like how the war on drugs stopped people from using drugs

(xo 2022)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116600&forum_id=2#44575676)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 2:51 AM
Author: Curious French Circlehead

Guns are not widely available in countries that have serious gun control. The bans have been proven to work.

The war on drugs didn’t work because a ton of people are addicted to drugs or otherwise want them every weekend while out and about. There’s not enough of an immediate market for guns to have some dude on a street corner asking normal people if they want a gun. I’m sure you already understand this but the NRA has killed your brain

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Date: May 26th, 2022 2:43 AM
Author: Lime supple chapel cuckold

Maybe we could compromise and just ban homicide.

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Date: May 26th, 2022 2:45 AM
Author: ivory theater corn cake

homicide-free zones in schools and churches

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