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XO was 100% right about Uvalde timeline day one (+it’s worse, NYPOST)

https://nypost.com/2022/06/10/uvalde-texas-police-chief-pete...
Odious juggernaut community account
  06/11/22
lol are there no auto shops in uvalde? you can blow the loc...
nubile disrespectful senate
  06/11/22
After driving around to benny hill music for 30 mins despite...
Odious juggernaut community account
  06/11/22
reminds me of the pulse nightclub orlando SWAT team deciding...
nubile disrespectful senate
  06/11/22
It’s just the pure listlessness , no one was expecting...
Odious juggernaut community account
  06/11/22
They’re hiring new cops in Uvalde now. Even they know ...
Odious juggernaut community account
  06/11/22
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hilarious temple
  06/11/22
(guy who WILL NOT be getting the upgraded jeep wrangler &quo...
flirting sticky faggotry
  06/11/22
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Judas Jones
  06/23/22
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hilarious temple
  06/11/22
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brilliant telephone
  06/11/22
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.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,,.,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.
  06/22/22
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FAG COUNTY
  06/22/22
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screenman
  06/23/22
This is more War on Terror crossover to law enforcement. the...
contagious corner
  06/11/22
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hilarious temple
  06/11/22
Cops are too dumb for abstract thinking and can't posit mult...
ivory wonderful jap
  06/11/22
The door to the classroom that Ramos was in had a steel jamb...
Bat shit crazy crackhouse
  06/11/22
the classroom had no exterior windows they cld go in thru? ...
blue theater stage love of her life
  06/11/22
It's really bewildering. Need to see what this place looks l...
Odious juggernaut community account
  06/11/22
It ironically sounds like some sort of fortress with the tea...
ivory wonderful jap
  06/11/22
The "we were waiting on keys for the classroom door&quo...
harsh piazza skinny woman
  06/11/22
thoughts on the latest update lmao noone ever tried the d...
paypig
  06/22/22
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borel
  06/22/22
jfc
Judas Jones
  06/22/22
What’s the inference here? That the cops were just sca...
.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,,.,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.
  06/22/22
The door leading directly to the killer and the classroom th...
paypig
  06/22/22
If that’s true lol wtf I would support legislation ma...
.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,,.,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.
  06/22/22
"Force protection" / "everyone comes home ali...
*nods respectfully towards you*
  06/22/22
they were busting out classroom windows from the outside so ...
queensbridge benzo
  06/22/22
something so horrible about this story that I cant quite put...
paypig
  06/22/22
The police were fat misshapen Mayans
cannon
  06/22/22
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  06/22/22
Remember that idiot on here who was defending the cops? H...
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  06/23/22
these faggots never do
shithole fascist country masquerading as democracy
  06/23/22
"He also said he didn’t consider himself the inci...
screenman
  06/23/22
Cr, fat pos slithers out of responsibility every chance he g...
paypig
  06/23/22
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screenman
  06/23/22
To be fair, Reminder: You don’t “need” ...
To be fair
  06/23/22
hard to feel bad about this. the idiocy of a bunch of dumb ...
nasty kike
  06/23/22
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116504&mc=1...
paypig
  06/23/22


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Date: June 11th, 2022 4:00 AM
Author: Odious juggernaut community account

https://nypost.com/2022/06/10/uvalde-texas-police-chief-pete-arredondo-defends-police-response-during-robb-elementary-school-shooting/

Uvalde police chief defends police response during shooting

By MaryAnn Martinez

By MaryAnn Martinez

June 10, 2022 | 12:01am

A hard-to-find key to a locked classroom door was the ultimate reason police waited 77 minutes to enter a Robb Elementary classroom to kill a gunman, stopping the massacre that claimed the lives of 19 students and two teachers, the under-fire police chief said.

Uvalde school district police Chief Pete Arredondo, who was in charge during the May 24 mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, offered up the explanation in a new interview with the Texas Tribune where he defended law enforcement’s delayed response in taking down 18-year-old shooter Salvador Ramos.

Arredondo has been heavily scrutinized by critics, who believe lives might have been saved if police had acted quicker and gotten to the injured faster.

“Not a single responding officer ever hesitated, even for a moment, to put themselves at risk to save the children,” Arredondo told the newspaper. “We responded to the information that we had and had to adjust to whatever we faced.”

Uvalde police chief Pete Arredondo said a key to a locked classroom door was the reason police waited to enter the classroom.

Austin American-Statesman-USA TO

The door to the classroom that Ramos was in had a steel jamb and could not be kicked in, Arredondo told the paper. He spent more than an hour in the hallway trying dozens of keys.

“Each time I tried a key I was just praying,” Arredondo told the Texas Tribune. “The only thing that was important to me at this time was to save as many teachers and children as possible.”

People visit memorials for victims of the school shooting in Uvalde Town Square on May 26, 2022 in Uvalde, Texas.

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In the first 40 minutes, Arredondo says he was waiting to receive the set of keys. During that time, he called for tactical gear and a sniper, while avoiding the doors, believing he might provoke Ramos to shoot. Dozens of keys finally arrived, but none of them opened the door.

“My mind was to get there as fast as possible, eliminate any threats, and protect the students and staff,” Arredondo said.

One hour and 17 minutes after Ramos started shooting murdering schoolchildren with an AR-15 style gun, police finally breached the door to the classroom and killed the gunman.

Arredondo’s account of the police response is not supported by the Texas Department of Public Safety, which is investigating the shooting and the subsequent police response.

DPS said Arredondo erroneously treated the shooting as a barricaded suspect incident, in which law enforcement negotiates with the gunman. Instead, he should have treated it like an active shooter situation, where the number one priority for officers is to stop the shooting by killing the gunman or taking him into custody.

One hour and 17 minutes after Ramos started shooting, cops finally breached the door to the classroom and killed the suspect.

AP

“With the benefit of hindsight, where I’m sitting now, of course it was not the right decision. It was the wrong decision, period,” DPS Col. Steven McCraw said in a press briefing on May 27.

Arredondo tried to talk to the gunman through the wall, but there was no response, he told the newspaper.

The school district police chief also tried to justify his decision not to take his police radios into the school with him, believing he needed both hands to take down the shooter instead of holding the devices that might give away his position if the gunman heard them. Arredondo also did not have a bullet resistant vest, he told the paper.

“Our objective was to save as many lives as we could, and the extraction of the students from the classrooms by all that were involved saved over 500 of our Uvalde students and teachers before we gained access to the shooter and eliminated the threat,” Arredondo said.

But Arredondo’s decision not to take his radios in with him meant he did not know that students were calling 911 from inside the two classrooms the gunman targeted, begging for police to stop him.

He also said he didn’t consider himself the incident commander and thought another officer had taken control of organizing the different police agencies that responded.

A mourner delivers flowers to a memorial at Robb Elementary School to honor the victims on June 9, 2022, in Uvalde.

AP

“I didn’t issue any orders,” Arredondo said. “I called for assistance and asked for an extraction tool to open the door.”

Arredondo says he never told anyone to not breach the building, while simultaneously taking credit for telling officers to break windows from outside so that students in other classrooms could be evacuated.

Some of the US Border Patrol agents who responded to the school claim they ignored an order not to enter the classroom, reported the New York Times. Arredondo did not object when the team entered the room.

Arredondo did not speak out soon to avoid causing more grief to the families of the victims, he said. He has hired attorney George E. Hyde.

The Texas Department of Public Safety did not respond to The Post’s request for comment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44664817)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 4:01 AM
Author: nubile disrespectful senate

lol are there no auto shops in uvalde? you can blow the lock mechanism right out of a 'reinforced' door with simple consumer-grade hydraulic tools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44664819)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 4:07 AM
Author: Odious juggernaut community account

After driving around to benny hill music for 30 mins despite being 15 mins away, He waited 40 mins for a comical jailers keyring which he then tried one at a time for 30 minutes

no fucking idea what kind of school has a classroom encased in steel with only one way in, on the first floor. surely that’s a fire hazard, would love to see the blueprint tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44664822)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 4:11 AM
Author: nubile disrespectful senate

reminds me of the pulse nightclub orlando SWAT team deciding not to go in through the roof or walls because it was 'too risky.' the paramaters of this 'risk' were never actually defined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44664827)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 4:14 AM
Author: Odious juggernaut community account

It’s just the pure listlessness , no one was expecting miracles , the kids were surely very very fucked from the jump...but watching 60 cops mill around for an hour and change and then an off duty dude actually ends it (wasnt even ordered to+the ‘hostage’ situation top cop 'in charge' didn’t attempt to stop him) is something I’ll never ever forget

This is American masculinity at large now. Fat sackless larp hiding away behind oakleys and bureaucracy chasing pensions , everyone is just trying to cash out of this failed state

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44664832)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 4:16 AM
Author: Odious juggernaut community account

They’re hiring new cops in Uvalde now. Even they know a lot of these guys are gonna burn, and that they’re absolutely unfit for purpose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44664834)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 7:48 AM
Author: hilarious temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44665009)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 7:52 AM
Author: flirting sticky faggotry

(guy who WILL NOT be getting the upgraded jeep wrangler "punisher" edition)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44665011)



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Date: June 23rd, 2022 9:04 AM
Author: Judas Jones



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44727635)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 8:24 AM
Author: hilarious temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44665077)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 8:27 AM
Author: brilliant telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44665080)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:21 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,,.,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725305)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:27 PM
Author: FAG COUNTY (why dont ya try some)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725332)



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Date: June 23rd, 2022 12:46 AM
Author: screenman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44726913)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 8:02 AM
Author: contagious corner

This is more War on Terror crossover to law enforcement. the military quickly realized that Iraq/Afghanistan were complete bullshit and switched to a "force protection" mentality - the focus of every operation is saving lives, rather than accomplishing the objective.

If you're in Afghanistan this means mill around outside the target for an hour while a plane shows up to drop a bomb on it - doesn't matter if there's kids inside when the bomb hits.

If you're the cops...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44665034)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 8:24 AM
Author: hilarious temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44665076)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 4:11 AM
Author: ivory wonderful jap

Cops are too dumb for abstract thinking and can't posit multiple scenarios simultaneously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44664828)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 7:53 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy crackhouse

The door to the classroom that Ramos was in had a steel jamb and could not be kicked in, Arredondo told the paper. He spent more than an hour in the hallway trying dozens of keys.

...

One hour and 17 minutes after Ramos started shooting, cops finally breached the door to the classroom and killed the suspect.

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44665012)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 7:56 AM
Author: blue theater stage love of her life

the classroom had no exterior windows they cld go in thru?

also no one is discussing how many bullets from the COPS actually killed the kids, iim sure these idiots started firing randomly and took out a few of them for fun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44665021)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 8:00 AM
Author: Odious juggernaut community account

It's really bewildering. Need to see what this place looks like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44665029)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 8:03 AM
Author: ivory wonderful jap

It ironically sounds like some sort of fortress with the teacher having to prop open the door with a rock just to be able to get in and out of the otherwise highly secured exterior, no windows on the classrooms, impenetrable steel door jambs etc. And all of the above are listed as reasons the cops couldn't confront the shooter...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44665036)



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Date: June 11th, 2022 3:18 PM
Author: harsh piazza skinny woman

The "we were waiting on keys for the classroom door" stuff has always smelled like bullshit to me. Police and fire departments *always* have master keys for public buildings, especially schools. Even if the police didn't have it, the fire department would. And even in the extraordinarily unlikely event that the fire department didn't have the master, the janitor, principal, vice principal, and school resource officer would absolutely have a master key. The chief's claim that they were putting key after key into the door, trying to find the right one, is obvious bullshit: the person who gave them the keys knew which one was master.

The only way the police chief's story makes sense is if 1) the police and fire departments didn't have a master key, and 2) the officer who obtained the master from the janitor forgot which one it was sometime between obtaining the key and reaching the classroom door.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44666461)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:10 PM
Author: paypig

thoughts on the latest update lmao

noone ever tried the door, according to cctv.

it was open the whole time

noone even tried

LMAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725251)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:11 PM
Author: borel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725257)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:12 PM
Author: Judas Jones

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725264)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:21 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,,.,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.


What’s the inference here? That the cops were just scared and didn’t even try to go in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725304)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:25 PM
Author: paypig

The door leading directly to the killer and the classroom that we've been hearing about the entire time, was unlocked the entire time and they lied about it the whole time

Yes, they were too pussy and didnt care enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725320)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:26 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,,.,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.


If that’s true lol wtf

I would support legislation making law enforcement personally liable for negligence in school shooting situations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725325)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:27 PM
Author: *nods respectfully towards you*

"Force protection" / "everyone comes home alive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725331)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:19 PM
Author: queensbridge benzo

they were busting out classroom windows from the outside so students wouldn't get caught in potential hallway crossfire. they made an exception for the classroom where the massacre was underway for reasons unrelated to cowardice.🤣

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725290)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:23 PM
Author: paypig

something so horrible about this story that I cant quite put words on, its like you just know every single one of those fat sackless punisher mall cops didnt give a single fuck about any of those beaner kids, they were all hoping to larp their way through to an easy pension wearing giant brimmed cowboy hats and occassionally wrangling border jumpers/beating on the fat misshapen mayan 'citizens' that call uvalde home

allowing children to be riddled with bullets as they stood idly by, and could literally hear the screams, in full tactical gear, nothing could ever illustrate better their utter impotence and indifference to that community.

and now we get a smoking gun that noone even approached and tried the door, and that it was unlocked by the grace of god the entire time. Pedro "Pete" Arredondo has got some explaining to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725314)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 6:29 PM
Author: cannon

The police were fat misshapen Mayans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44725341)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 11:52 PM
Author: .,..,.,,.,.,..,.,.,.,..,..,..,.,..,,.,.,.,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44726765)



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Date: June 23rd, 2022 12:17 AM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


Remember that idiot on here who was defending the cops?

Has he ever apologized?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44726815)



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Date: June 23rd, 2022 12:40 AM
Author: shithole fascist country masquerading as democracy

these faggots never do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44726879)



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Date: June 23rd, 2022 12:44 AM
Author: screenman

"He also said he didn’t consider himself the incident commander and thought another officer had taken control of organizing the different police agencies that responded."

fuck I hate fat people - they're never at fault or to blame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44726899)



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Date: June 23rd, 2022 6:10 AM
Author: paypig

Cr, fat pos slithers out of responsibility every chance he gets , zero impulse control fat diabetic fuck

How are people this morbidly obese even allowed to remain on the force

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44727318)



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Date: June 23rd, 2022 10:11 PM
Author: screenman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44731833)



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Date: June 23rd, 2022 9:09 AM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retired)

To be fair,

Reminder: You don’t “need” guns to protect yourself, you fucking lunatic. That’s why we have a little something called “the police.” Maybe call them and let them do their fucking job instead of going for the gun like a retard??? Jfc Trumpkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44727658)



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Date: June 23rd, 2022 9:11 AM
Author: nasty kike

hard to feel bad about this. the idiocy of a bunch of dumb spics got a bunch of other dumb spics killed. no loss to society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44727663)



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Date: June 23rd, 2022 9:25 AM
Author: paypig

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116504&mc=101&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5128395&forum_id=2#44727720)