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DeSantis should defer to hierarchy, accept VP spot
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 10:34 AM Author: boyish locus Pence was garbage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728058) |
Date: June 23rd, 2022 10:35 AM Author: erotic rehab Trump / DeSantis
Trump retires in 2026 and lets DeSantis rule for 10 yrs |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 10:37 AM Author: Hairraiser sanctuary coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728076) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 10:38 AM Author: boyish locus with JD Vance waiting in the wings (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728079) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 10:39 AM Author: ebony diverse stage US Chamber of Commerce:
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 10:40 AM Author: ebony diverse stage Israel:
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:31 AM Author: demanding honey-headed selfie degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728395) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 10:41 AM Author: ebony diverse stage Baby boomers with 8 figure nest eggs:
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 10:42 AM Author: Shimmering fat ankles best case is either this or desantis stays in florida as a trump supporter, or trump steps down (lol) to support desantis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728108) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 10:56 AM Author: charcoal school He would be a retard to accept VP instead of remaining emperor of Florida
He would be stained by such a close tie to Trump (and whatever easily avoidable scandal Trump bumbles into in office) and Trump has zero loyalty to his backers and shivs them in the back constantly. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 12:12 PM Author: anal stimulating electric furnace filthpig I love TRUMP but his worst quality is his lack of loyalty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728669) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:18 AM Author: Floppy theater stage No point in that. If he wont run 2024 he should stay governor of FL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728299) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:20 AM Author: boyish locus in a rational perfect world, DeSantis could be the competent right-hand man that Trump never found in Bannon/Kushner/Pence/Barr et al.
but Trump is probably too insane and narcissistic to allow this, so DeSantis is probably better waiting it out until 2028 in FL. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:24 AM Author: Hyperventilating resort That sort of right-hand has to attract a lot of the heat, which could make him a little radioactive by the time it's his "turn." So I doubt RdS would do this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728343) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:27 AM Author: boyish locus there's no I in team. there may be no America left by then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728363) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 2:16 PM Author: Impertinent Arrogant Scourge Upon The Earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44729230) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:24 AM Author: Ruddy jet-lagged coffee pot DeSantis "lol, no thanks, see you in the primary."
People tried this same argument with Obama pre-2008 to see if they could get him slotted as someone's VP rather than aspiring for the presidency. It's a cuck moved designed to eliminate a dangerous political competitor. There is no "hierarchy." This isn't the mob. Get yours. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:29 AM Author: boyish locus but it's not going to work. Trump is going to give him the scorched earth Jeb/Ted Cruz treatment and DeSantis' asshole will look like a roll of M80s went off in it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728378) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:31 AM Author: Ruddy jet-lagged coffee pot (Hillary Clinton's press handler in 2007 talking about Obama's chances) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728397) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:34 AM Author: citrine laughsome crotch internal respiration To be fair, Hillary did back off on going in hard against Obama early on despite Bill's advice. When she started listening to Bill mid-way in the primary she recovered; had she listened to Bill from day one she would've won easily instead of tying obama. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728418) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:34 AM Author: Ruddy jet-lagged coffee pot (William "Slick Willy" Clinton) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728421) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:36 AM Author: citrine laughsome crotch internal respiration It's on the record. He also caused you iran-hating neocons to kvetch when he recruited Trump in 2016, it was either Hillary (& indie Trump run) or Trump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728429) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:39 AM Author: Ruddy jet-lagged coffee pot Woah. Woah. Why am I suddenly an "Iran hating neocon?" Is it because I think DeSantis is gonna fuck your boy Trump's ass in the primary? So I get painted as a neocon to make sense of things for you? Slow the fuck down Cheech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728458) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:41 AM Author: citrine laughsome crotch internal respiration So you're a Lib?
Trump was a roadblock against the otherwise standard GOP agenda of another middle eastern war + entitlement cuts.
His entire conservative cabinet was in favor of bombing iran after the drone went down, he personally backed down at the last minute.
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:42 AM Author: Ruddy jet-lagged coffee pot lmfao at died in the wool Trump fags not understanding that there may be a new sheriff in town instead of their 76 year old one termer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728484) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:44 AM Author: citrine laughsome crotch internal respiration He is just a stand-in for anyone not named Trump. If he didn't exist GOP would be promoting Youngkin, Abbott, etc. with different propaganda messaging but the same underlying intentions.
Obama had charisma + radicalist progressive & farrakhan energy + required Clinton to restrain herself in order to barely win. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:49 AM Author: Ruddy jet-lagged coffee pot I just don't agree with this take and it seems heavily colored by the perspective of "anyone not Trump is bad." Ironically, Pence is much more a "anyone but Trump" sort of candidate. DeSantis is very much doing his own thing in FL, making a national name for himself, pushing back against a lot of lib bullshit, and energizing the R base and I think he has a real shot at this although we're still a long way off and much can change. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728517) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:53 AM Author: citrine laughsome crotch internal respiration 'anyone not Trump is bad.' Because it is the basis of the opposition towards Trump.
Actual Republicans who were hostile to neoconservatism like Corey Stewart and Chris Kobach were purposely attacked as hard as possible for a reason.
LOL 'Making a Name' is just getting Conservative propaganda to promote him that's it, Conservatives don't follow the details, they would be doing it with anyone else.
'Muh based Romney' ' Muh based George W Bush owning the Libs', etc. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:35 AM Author: charcoal school Trump’s old as fuck now too. We’ll see if he still has it. The difference from 2016 is that Trump has a four year record to attack with a bunch of bad shit and failed promises. Not much you can say negative about DeSantis’s tenure in Florida. DeSantis is also very broadly popular among the party members, unlike the damaged clown crew Trump tore apart in 2016.
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:38 AM Author: citrine laughsome crotch internal respiration George W. Bush's approval ratings had recovered just before Trump launched his campaign in 2015.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/03/politics/obama-approval-rating-cnn-poll/index.html
Neocon Jeb/Rubio were going to run on his legacy and chumps like you were going to eat it up.
Cruz was the most-polished pure Conservative candidate who had the backing of the Tea Party and also the Religious Right due to his preacher affection. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:39 AM Author: transparent contagious location pistol It's hard to take down DeSantis that would turn off R voters. DeSantis has an impeccable pedigree and record. No family or affair scandals either. Exactly how is Trump going to attack DeSantis without simultaneously attacking himself too?
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:50 AM Author: citrine laughsome crotch internal respiration Why would he be attacking himself?
Trump in 2016 ran on alt-right platform. In 2020 he ran on a q personality cult. Neither times did he run on conservatism. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:40 AM Author: boyish locus lol
wow, talk about deja vu. 2/3 of xo was smugly counting Trump up deep into the primaries.
Trump is a lion. he looks great recently too. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 1:05 PM Author: charcoal school It's not 2016. We had president Trump, he didn't deliver. And his failure to deliver was almost entirely due to immutable personality flaws.
What he did well was severely damage the traditional GOP's stranglehold on the party and sharply shifting the party ideology. He's also toxic as fuck to like 40% of the country and is a guaranteed congressional loss. He can also only be president for four more years.
His time is done. He came in, he wrecked what needed to be wrecked, he radicalized the opposition into insanity, and now he needs to leave and let someone else pick up the torch in the world he built.
Without Trump as a foil the Democrats are barely even a viable party now. Someone with the same ideology could sweep in and actually get shit done. And hey look - there's a guy in Florida with the same ideology and a miles long record of getting shit done. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 2:16 PM Author: citrine laughsome crotch internal respiration No, he failed to deliver as he did not become the authoritarian he ran on being. GOP never had any intention on delivering on dog whistles. GOP issues are free markets and spreading classical liberal ideology.
There is no conventional political solution for what you want.
Trump did not change the GOP ideology one iota, it's the same national review romney ideology.
Trump 2016 ran on the alt-right platform, there is no one in the GOP remotely close to that. Corey Stewart and Chris Kobach were most adjacent to it and the GOP canned them. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 3:27 PM Author: irate adventurous hell Trump's 2016 playbook won't be fresh or unexpected going into 2024. He doesn't have anywhere near the same appeal or promise that he had going into 2016, so I doubt he'll resonate with voters like he did during his first run. DeSantis is going to run with the same populist playbook used by Trump in 2016, and he's not a huge faggot with zero charisma like Cruz and Bush. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44729662) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 3:31 PM Author: citrine laughsome crotch internal respiration He literally has less charisma than Cruz and even Bush though. No one likes him personally, it's just ideological. Cruz and Bush had some devout supporters who didn't simply see their guy as a commodity.
Also, he has nothing to do with Trump 2016, he was a Cruz 2016 guy. His policies are Romney 2012 down to the T. Same standard neocon intereventionism + social spending cut platform.
It is true that Trump doesn't have the alt-right base, however he has the religious right in his corner - the people that were with Cruz previously. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:27 AM Author: Crawly gay wizard Pence/DeSantis 2024 could heal all GOP wounds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728368) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:29 AM Author: boyish locus Jindal/Fiorina (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728382) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:37 AM Author: charcoal school LOL nobody wants pence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728443) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:42 AM Author: Crawly gay wizard Mike Pence is highly respected inside/outside the beltway. After all, the president has to run the country, not just run for office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728481) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 3:01 PM Author: mind-boggling sapphire brethren Mike, please get off ZoZo. Now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44729452) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:39 AM Author: mind-boggling sapphire brethren sup Pence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728456) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:40 AM Author: Ruddy jet-lagged coffee pot (Karen Pence) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728466) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:45 AM Author: Razzmatazz flatulent space chad You guys are severely underestimating the incumbent advantage and Biden’s 7,000,000 vote margin of victory. Nobody thought Biden was some amazing political figure but he won because his opponent was Trump. And that was before January 6th. It’s gonna be a long 6 1/2 years guys. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728501) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:50 AM Author: Ruddy jet-lagged coffee pot You legitimately think that Biden has the health / stamina / mental state to go another four years starting in 2024? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728529) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:52 AM Author: Razzmatazz flatulent space chad Yes. Reminder: you guys thought he was senile in 2020 and would get confused during the debates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728546) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 2:14 PM Author: Canary roast beef bawdyhouse He literally shit his pants in front of the Pope (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44729212) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:56 AM Author: shaky kitchen halford lmao, in case there was any doubt that this retard is a paid shill. literally no one believes a word of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728578) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 2:15 PM Author: Impertinent Arrogant Scourge Upon The Earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44729221) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 2:15 PM Author: Impertinent Arrogant Scourge Upon The Earth Why do libs insist on continuing "x millions in the popular vote" line? If Republicans win but lose the popular vote by 10 million it won't matter at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44729226) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 2:16 PM Author: charcoal school A majority of Democrats don't believe this. The party elites don't believe this.
Biden won in 2020 because their was unlimited, unmonitored, unrestricted mail-in voting and they had a trillion dollar ballot harvesting outfit running for months. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 2:23 PM Author: citrine laughsome crotch internal respiration Dem elites and the Establishment in general are mad at Biden for having the balls to pull out of Afghanistan, which Trump wouldn't have done, as such they are trying to undercut Biden. Any non-Trump Republican would've issued a troop surge in Afghanistan and you'd lap it up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44729262) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 2:53 PM Author: charcoal school Biden's Afghanistan debacle was one of the most embarassing moments in American foreign policy history and was the inflection point when the public lost faith in him.
The shitshow at the airport, the bombing of American soldiers, sand niggers hanging onto planes, leaving Americans stranded, retaliating like a petulent child by randomly killing school children.
If you don't agree with the above, you're out of touch with the country. Hth |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 3:02 PM Author: impressive beady-eyed circlehead son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44729458) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 3:06 PM Author: citrine laughsome crotch internal respiration Ah yes, the country that was lied into the iraq war can't be critiqued!
That was a literal deep state propoganda campaign, the reality is that objectively less Americans died than would've died had the US stayed in Afghanistan and conducted a troop surge. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 11:59 AM Author: Translucent idea he suggested sneaky criminal desantis would have to be a complete idiot to agree to be trump's vp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728599) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 1:30 PM Author: Impertinent Arrogant Scourge Upon The Earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44728988) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 2:49 PM Author: charcoal school zero upside (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44729375) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2022 2:57 PM Author: carmine soul-stirring sandwich library ITT: sensible center-rightists thinking we still live in a real country and any of this matters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5137149&forum_id=2#44729434) |