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hyuuuuge social experiment coming. AZ will fund students, not schools.
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Date: June 26th, 2022 11:58 AM Author: Hairraiser corn cake AZ always had a libertarian streak. Can you imagine what the NEA would do if this were floated in a blue state?
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:01 PM Author: Arrogant codepig mexican Evil witch as she melts: "They belong to me! They're mine . . ." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747140) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:10 PM Author: Hairraiser corn cake cr.
When you hear school people say that parents don't have a say, that parents don't get to know, and that parents won't be told of in-school transitioning, you can see that educators really do believe children belong to them. |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:18 PM Author: stirring underhanded resort cr i never completely realized it until recently when the district im in made an official policy about that.
even non "trans" children can make up some completely new identity at school theyre known by and parents arent allowed to know unless the child wants them to. insanity. |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:20 PM Author: Hairraiser corn cake at first i was like, "no, they can't possibly believe that and the critics must be exaggerating," but then if you just listen carefully you realize that they believe the school-child relationship trumps the parent-child relationship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747215) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:20 PM Author: aphrodisiac mediation stead "Alexa, what are the tenets of communism?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747219) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:24 PM Author: Twisted Forum Wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747241) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:27 PM Author: Territorial Navy Menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747529) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 4:39 PM Author: Milky buck-toothed halford piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44748627) |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 11:11 AM Author: stirring underhanded resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44752470) |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 12:34 PM Author: infuriating property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44753145) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:41 PM Author: stirring underhanded resort cr.
people assume its some made up paranoia. makes for a lot of uncomfortable conversations with people who dont understand why we're homeschooling. even somewhat with family members that are more on the conservative side |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:57 PM Author: Twisted Forum Wagecucks Cr
Libs have done a fantastic job of incremental normalization of all the degenerate shit over past few decades, to the point where even self professed conservatives think you’re being hyperbolic or paranoid if you raise an issue w pedo groomer trannys “reading books” to your children. |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 11:10 AM Author: stirring underhanded resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44752468) |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 11:14 AM Author: cocky plum chapel rigpig lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44752493) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:23 PM Author: Twisted Forum Wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747237) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:10 PM Author: aphrodisiac mediation stead Damn that's actually pretty 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747182) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:13 PM Author: Hairraiser corn cake Imagine how responsive the public school boards will be now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747186) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 4:23 PM Author: trip shimmering place of business lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44748552) |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 2:42 AM Author: heady mischievous native laser beams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44751424) |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 12:25 PM Author: Charismatic frozen shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44753071) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:14 PM Author: Stubborn stimulating location I don’t understand how it’s not like this everywhere. It’s racist to force ni**ers to stay in failing public schools . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747190) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:59 PM Author: jet bisexual private investor Niggers bring the failure with them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747420) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:19 PM Author: 180 lettuce sound barrier 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747214) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:27 PM Author: cream hall volcanic crater Wont the impact just be to make public schools even worse?
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Date: June 26th, 2022 12:52 PM Author: lascivious ruddy associate We already know the results when school boards get the money. You happy with those results? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747375) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:05 PM Author: cream hall volcanic crater I'm very happy with the schools my kids go to. Excellent teachers so far. I'm concerned about indoctrination as they get older though and im not sure what to do about it.
But if we are talking about poor districts, I agree throwing money at them has not resulted in any improvements. I'm guessing taking resources away and leaving only the poorest most at risk kids whose vouchers alone would clearly not be enough to go to a private school would not make things better.
I guess it's justifiable if we say "those kids are fucked anyway so it doesn't matter. Might as well give middle class kids some additional options."
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:15 PM Author: Stubborn stimulating location These kids can’t be helped anyway unless they’re taken away from the “parents.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747497) |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 12:15 PM Author: Mind-boggling cordovan theater stage fat ankles It’s not about whether or not the poor kids are already fucked. Even if you think the middle or upper class kid one desk over can help the poor kid, it’s not that other kid’s responsibility to be there to provide resources to the poor kid. Fuck that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44752971) |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 12:18 PM Author: cream hall volcanic crater I think that's what I was saying in the last part.
If those kids are already fucked, plucking the good students with more potential and placing them in a better environment with more opportunities is probably a good thing. |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:01 PM Author: Pungent market shitlib Found the Jew
They’ve already failed. They can’t get worse. they need to be shut down. |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:10 PM Author: cream hall volcanic crater In this scenario, are we closing all public schools and completely privatizing education? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747482) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:28 PM Author: Pungent market shitlib lets hope so! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747532) |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 12:06 PM Author: cream hall volcanic crater If the system where we have a 1 big school for all kids in a town with a 1 size fits all curriculum were torn down in favor of smaller schools that could be more specialized to meet a kid's aptitude and interests, I'd be in favor of that.
If what we are left with is a system that mirrors the current one but where the public schools are all just left with fewer resources, I dont think that would be a net positive for society. |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 12:24 PM Author: stirring underhanded resort lol at this working in todays lib environment. it will be considered racist or some shit.
they tried this in the town next to where i live. the old big high school for those who want it and built another one about as big overall but the campus is split into smaller schools for kids with different interests. like some kids do computer shit others do biology and other sciences like a pre-premed thing etc.
of course they decided to cancel it after 2020 and theyre going to two normal schools next year. actually fucked everything up because parents are MAF about the boundaries and voting against levies. now sports are pay to play, theyre laying off teachers, etc. in a district that isnt poor at all overall |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 12:42 PM Author: cream hall volcanic crater The effect would likely be that the kids with involved parents are active in choosing which school and track their kids enroll in. The absentee parents aren't involved and their kids are dumped into a gen pop type of situation.
It's been kind of an interesting evolution in the values of a lot of suburbanites. The county vocational and technical schools used to be where all the outcasts and dummies went. now, recognizing that kids can learn valuable and marketable skills and college credit, it's extremely competitive to get into these places and requires multiple teacher recommendation letters and an application process at the end of 7th grade. |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 10:58 AM Author: cocky plum chapel rigpig fuck yeah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44752358) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:02 PM Author: aphrodisiac mediation stead Well yeah, obviously. If this happened, every single normal white parent would pull their kids from public school and send them to some kind of non-shitlib charter school
That's the whole point bro |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:09 PM Author: cream hall volcanic crater I don't think people living in mostly white, middle class suburbs with good schools would by and large choose to send their kids to alternative schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747477) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:12 PM Author: aphrodisiac mediation stead Of course they will dude. None of the shitlib teachers and administrators will actually change their behavior if this passes. They will remain just as insane and committed to the shitlib religion - in fact, this will just increase their conviction! These are religious zealots
People will pull their kids from all these schools as soon as they're given this kind of alternative |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:26 PM Author: cream hall volcanic crater What are the alternatives though? If I'm thinking of myself, my town has pretty good schools. The teachers have all been very good. My kids are doing well.
The only current alternatives are religious schools and private schools I couldn't afford for 4 kids even with vouchers.
Unless the theory is that under a new system public schools cease to exist altogether and the whole thing is privatized. |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 4:05 PM Author: glassy wild hunting ground heaven Stop being glib, you fucking fagg0t jew. With a guarantee you of funds new education options will open. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44748498) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 5:41 PM Author: cream hall volcanic crater That's what I'm asking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44748947) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 4:25 PM Author: Salmon fanboi Mac IQ to think UMC public schools are actually good at educating kids? Anyone above 90 knows it's the kids themselves making the schools look good, and not the other way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44748557) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 5:41 PM Author: cream hall volcanic crater There's a couple reasons not the least of which is that the kids come from good stock and families who value education and hard work.
These kids obviously bring the test scores up and make the classroom environment conducive to learning.
But also the best teachers, principals, supervisors etc flock to these school districts.
I agree this is obvious. It's the same reason people send their kids to private school. It's nit that they have better books or teachers. It's that the students come from wealthy families. |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 10:55 AM Author: Salmon fanboi Your point about attracting teaching talent is not what I've witnessed. It's true that more talented people apply to work there, but the rent seeking fucks who hire don't actually hire these more talented people.
If you ever get the privilege of seeing even a shitty private school juxtaposed with a UMC public, you'd realize how stunningly inept the public school teachers really are. And stats like "1% of our students go to HYPS" really mean that they took in a pool of talent where 5% deserved to go to HYPS, and only ruined 80% of them. |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 12:33 PM Author: cream hall volcanic crater I'd disagree re your school district comment. The boards of ed and administrators in UMC districts are prestige and credential obsessed. That's who is responsible for hiring.
Anecdotally, my wife teaches in a very highly regarded public school district. All of her co-workers have advanced degrees and are smart, competent people. None would ever consider working somewhere like Newark, Plainfield or Irvington unless it was the only place they could find a job right after college but then jump ship to a better district after gaining some experience.
I'd think the benefits of a private school are mostly social rather than purely academic but I could be wrong. At a private school, your kid will likely have less exposure to bad influences and fewer opportunities to get off track in adolescence. |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 11:08 AM Author: cocky plum chapel rigpig its undeniable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44752431) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:28 PM Author: Hairraiser corn cake note the "experiment" in the title.
otoh, how can the public schools of Baltimore and Philly get any worse? |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 4:40 PM Author: Milky buck-toothed halford piazza The public school system as currently constructed should be burned to the ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44748630) |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 11:17 AM Author: cream hall volcanic crater i try not to be an anti-semite (shapeshifting kike) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44752516) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 1:43 PM Author: exhilarant state it'll never come to fruition or if it does, the courts will shut it down (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44747585) |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 3:59 PM Author: Purple appetizing dilemma the goyim know
shut it down |
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Date: June 26th, 2022 4:20 PM Author: Hairraiser corn cake looks very likely to be enacted. the AZ house and senate passed it. AZ is very libertarian.
i imagine the state courts will reject any challenges.
it's the federal courts and the Ninth Circuit that could be a problem. |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 1:18 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle fluffy parlour isn't this how they do it in Belgium? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44751313) |
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Date: June 27th, 2022 12:09 PM Author: Titillating address I'd just send my kid to the school with the fewest mexicans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5139901&forum_id=2#44752917) |