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WOW $45.2 million Alex Jones

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/jury-alex-jon...
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$49,300,000.00 total "verdict" with the compen$ato...
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This is about 1/4 what I was hoping for but I'll take it
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Weren’t they held accountable?
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100% chance this get overturned right?
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Constitutionally it has to be reduced to no more than a sing...
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This isn't what's going to get challenged. When Texas moves ...
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Nothing you typed made any fucking sense.
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cr he'll never be a whackjob with an internet talk show ever...
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He'll be reborn as a SCOTUS opinion written by Roberts.
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Punies can't be discharged in BK, right?
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He was found to have intentionally caused his listeners to h...
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Plaintiffs were the ones who were supposed to make those arg...
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He accused the families of being crisis actors didn’t ...
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  08/05/22
yes but without first hand knowledge it can only be his opin...
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So you can repeatedly make statements that turn out to be fa...
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i think if it's political in nature you should be able to. i...
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This wasn't a random person so your analogy fails right ther...
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If all he said was that it was “a big hoax” then...
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he did do that. but how is that any different than 9/11 c...
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The reporting keeps putting "giant hoax" in quotat...
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libs never really think about the consequences of policy in ...
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This is why I think they will overturn it. A based tx appeal...
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His 'first hand knowledge' was hiring Wolfgang Halbig and Da...
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100% yes (libs after January 6 but who ignore shit like the ...
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Isn't that criminal harassment? Why wasn't he arrested for t...
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How dumb are you? Whether someone is a crisis actor is a fac...
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pretty sure the plaintiffs won here. so not sure what you're...
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The plaintiffs did win. You're absolutely right about that.
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libs have shit for brains
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To summarize (as relevant) the Texas Supreme Court decisions...
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even if so he'll spend hundreds of thousands more litigating...
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Why are juries so fucking retarded
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or because you want to be on the jury because you hate alex ...
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Did Jones' lawyers even show up for jury selection?
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only so he could get their emails and send them jone's unred...
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One of the plaintiffs was an actual FBI agent. One weird tri...
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they were all crisis actors (don't sue me)
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I think it's more likely someone helped Lanza facilitate the...
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lol@ shitlibs trying to straw man their way out of this. Too...
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Looks like he already paid some shitty lawyers to do that
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Link to his lawyers saying anything about this?
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sandy hook conspiracies are absolutely political speech rega...
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you're just wrong. defamation does not become protected jus...
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well of course there's no class-based defamation of a class ...
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‘Black people are shit, so they shouldn’t be abl...
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  08/05/22
What was he accused of anyway? Defaming who?
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he accused parents of sandy hook victims of being crisis act...
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Were any of these people convicted or even charged with hara...
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I'll take that as a no.
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Prophets were always persecuted
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The 13th amendment only adds a due process requirement.
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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:24 PM
Author: Alcoholic bbw

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/jury-alex-jones-defamation-case-begin-deliberations-punitive-damages-2022-08-05/

Aug 5 (Reuters) - U.S. conspiracy theorist Alex Jones must pay the parents of a 6-year-old boy killed in the 2012 Sandy Hook massacre $45.2 million in punitive damages - on top of $4.1 million in compensatory damages already awarded - for falsely claiming the shooting was a hoax, a Texas jury decided on Friday.

Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis, separated parents of slain 6-year-old Jesse Lewis, testified that followers of Jones harassed them and sent them death threats for years in the false belief that they were lying about their son's death in the Dec. 14, 2012, shooting that killed 20 children and six staff at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

The 12-person jury on Thursday decided on the compensatory damages following a two-week trial in the defamation lawsuit presided over by Judge Maya Guerra Gamble in state court in the Texas capital of Austin, where Jones' radio show and webcast Infowars are based.

The parents had sought $145.9 million in punitive damages and $150 million in compensatory damages. Compensatory damages are awarded to cover a plaintiff's suffering and losses. Punitive damages are awarded to punish a defendant's actions.

Jones, who has been a prominent figure in American right-wing circles and a supporter of former President Donald Trump, had called the Sandy Hook massacre a hoax by the U.S. government staged using crisis actors to serve as a pretext for taking away Americans' guns.

"We ask that you send a very, very simple message, and that is: stop Alex Jones. Stop the monetization of misinformation and lies," Wesley Todd Ball, a lawyer for the parents, told jurors earlier on Friday before they began deliberations on punitive damages.

The Sandy Hook gunman, Adam Lanza, used a Remington Bushmaster rifle to carry out the massacre. It ended when Lanza killed himself with the approaching sound of police sirens.

An attorney for Jones, Federico Andino Reynal, asked jurors to return a verdict of $270,000 based on the number of hours Infowars devoted to Sandy Hook coverage.

Forensic economist Bernard Pettingill testified on Friday on behalf of Lewis' parents that Jones "promulgated some hate speech and some misinformation" and "made a lot of money." Jones and Infowars are worth between $135 million and $270 million combined, Pettingill said.

Jones sought to distance himself from the conspiracy theories during his testimony, apologizing to the parents and acknowledging that Sandy Hook was "100% real."

Jones' company, Free Speech Systems LLC, declared bankruptcy last week. Jones said during a Monday broadcast that the filing will help the company stay on the air while it appeals. The bankruptcy declaration paused a similar defamation suit by Sandy Hook parents in Connecticut where, as in Texas, he has already been found liable.

During closing arguments on Wednesday, Kyle Farrar, a lawyer for the parents, urged the jury to end what he called their nightmare and hold Jones accountable for profiting off their son's death. Reynal acknowledged during his closing argument that Jones and Infowars reported "irresponsibly" on Sandy Hook but said his client was not responsible for the harassment.

The plaintiffs also have accused Jones of approaching the trial in bad faith, citing broadcasts in which he said the proceedings were rigged against him and that the jury pool was full of people who "don't know what planet they're on."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44969973)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:46 PM
Author: Henna Disrespectful Striped Hyena

$49,300,000.00 total "verdict" with the compen$atory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970064)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:26 PM
Author: Beady-eyed autistic brunch

they say he's a 1/4th billionaire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44969981)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:26 PM
Author: Crimson pisswyrm

Jesus, tp your response?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44969983)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:30 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

This is about 1/4 what I was hoping for but I'll take it

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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:27 PM
Author: Alcoholic bbw



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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:28 PM
Author: Heady property

Why aren't Libs ever held accountable for their lies (e.g., Nick Sandman)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970000)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:47 PM
Author: Henna Disrespectful Striped Hyena

Who? Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970066)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:55 PM
Author: self-absorbed stirring lay boiling water

Shitlib judges dismiss clear fact issues "as a matter of law"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970095)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 10:09 PM
Author: aquamarine headpube



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:00 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:32 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

The only person in that age bracket with more future pussy potential is Kyle. There isn't a single person working at CNN who can reasonably expect to be richer or more successful than either of them in ten years. The fuck does he need courts for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970226)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:32 PM
Author: light hairless haunted graveyard

Weren’t they held accountable?

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Date: August 5th, 2022 10:10 PM
Author: aquamarine headpube

Laws exist to be enforced against anyone who goes against jewery

It takes a lot to realize and actually understand this but once you do none of this shit is in any way surprising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970805)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:52 PM
Author: Flirting bronze menage

100% chance this get overturned right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970078)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:59 PM
Author: Ultramarine swashbuckling area halford

Constitutionally it has to be reduced to no more than a single-digit multiple of actual damages IIRC. I presume the trial court will order remittitur to 9X and the Ps will accept.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970122)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 9:53 AM
Author: '''"''

This would be the sort of case that on appeal might break that limit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44992680)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:35 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

This isn't what's going to get challenged. When Texas moves to enforce Jones will sue the State of Texas and force them to explain why they think they can do that. I'm about to look into who the solicitor general of Texas is, but I'm gonna make a wild ass guess he's an Infowars paid subscriber. I fully expect he will just flap his arms in the SCOT and throw the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970233)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:28 PM
Author: Blue appetizing location

Nothing you typed made any fucking sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970643)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:58 PM
Author: lascivious chocolate crackhouse genital piercing

Lmao his life is over

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Date: August 5th, 2022 6:59 PM
Author: Ultramarine swashbuckling area halford

cr he'll never be a whackjob with an internet talk show ever again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970125)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:01 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

walls closing in

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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:40 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

He'll be reborn as a SCOTUS opinion written by Roberts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970249)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:02 PM
Author: adulterous dark alpha

Punies can't be discharged in BK, right?

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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:05 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

i don't think he's declaring to try to discharge the judgment but for the automatic stay while he appeals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970148)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:40 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

cr, lmao@ making Texas run their arguments through an Article II judge before he takes them to SCOT. Cheaper than discovery. Just let them come to you and 'splain their reasoning. I wonder if it even goes to Texas or just dies there procedurally and he gets standing in federal court bc it's BK. I don't know shit about this obv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970251)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 1:29 AM
Author: maniacal gaming laptop faggotry

I'm not an expert, but I think the law is that punitive damages for an intentional tort are not dischargeable under Chapter 7. I believe the cause of action in this case was defamation, so I don't think he could discharge it under Chapter 7 (although Chapter 13 is still an option).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971531)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 1:30 AM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

He was found to have intentionally caused his listeners to harass these people? He knew or should have reasonably known that would be a consequence of his speech? And this is going to an Article II judge?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971534)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 1:35 AM
Author: maniacal gaming laptop faggotry

Well, those would have been good arguments to make in his defense at trial. But as I understand it, he failed to produce some required documents during discovery, so he lost in a default judgment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971543)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 1:36 AM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

Plaintiffs were the ones who were supposed to make those arguments when they asked the judge for permission take his money. Did their lawyers forget?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971546)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 1:42 AM
Author: maniacal gaming laptop faggotry

I'm not sure what your point is here. And I have no idea how compensatory or punitive damages are supposed to be calculated under Texas law. All I know is that he had already been find liable for defamation due to a default judgment and that this week's trial was only to calculate damages. And since defamation is an intentional tort, my understanding is that these damages cannot be discharged under Chapter 7.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971557)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 1:50 AM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

My point is that plaintiffs had the burden of proof. Do you understand what that means? Or are you the worst lawyer on earth?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971565)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 4:18 AM
Author: maniacal gaming laptop faggotry

No shit, Sherlock. What does that have to do with the subject at hand, which is whether or not Alex Jones can discharge his punitive damages in bankruptcy?

If you are trying to argue that Jones never should have been found liable in the first place, then it's his own fucking fault for not responding to discovery requests. If you are trying to argue that the plaintiffs' attorneys didn't make a convincing argument for that amount of damages, I didn't watch the trial nor do I know the Texas law regarding awarding damages in these types of cases, so I can't comment on that. All I know is that (based on my possibly incorrect understanding) he cannot discharge these punitive damages in Chapter 7 bankruptcy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971737)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:04 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

this child is a racist white supremacist -> a reasonable reader would understand this is an opinion, thus no issue of material fact, summary judgment granted

i, a notable fringe conspiracy theorist, think sandy hook was an inside job, although this is based on circumstance and is just my opinion because i don't have first hand knowledge of what happened -> defamation so extreme that punitive damages are warranted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970143)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:23 PM
Author: Crimson pisswyrm

He accused the families of being crisis actors didn’t he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970195)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:27 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

yes but without first hand knowledge it can only be his opinion based on the circumstances. you can have an opinion about facts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970209)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:35 PM
Author: Crimson pisswyrm

So you can repeatedly make statements that turn out to be false, with reckless disregard as to their truth, and later say it was just opinion because you didn’t have any evidence the statements were true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970234)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:43 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

i think if it's political in nature you should be able to. if jones just picked some random person and started saying they're a pedophile i would say he should be liable, even if he made it clear it was just his opinion.

also i don't think it's fair to say "with reckless disregard as to the truth". a conspiracy theory is an inherently unknowable thing. and punishing people for spreading "dangerous misinformation with a reckless disregard for the truth" is not a path i want to go down. how many people were canceled in the past few years for saying things that turned out to be true?

i don't want the government, even through the courts in civil suits, to have the power to regulate speech based on truthfulness except in very narrow circumstances like actual defamation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970260)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:56 PM
Author: Crimson pisswyrm

So if I picked a random person that said he was a pedo and that he was in cahoots with Biden to cover it up, should that make it political and therefore render defamation law void?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970291)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:59 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

if you sincerely believe it and aren't just using the biden thing as protection, yes.

also you need to show damages. if that speech actually damaged that person and they suffered consequences, i would think that there would need to be some plausibility (even incredibly attenuated plausibility like sandy hook conspiracies) to your accusations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970303)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:10 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

This wasn't a random person so your analogy fails right there. For that matter the actual facts here are simple enough that you shouldn't need analogies at all. You should be able to describe the actual harm the government is trying to prevent here. Can you do that at least?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970330)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:59 PM
Author: vivacious queen of the night elastic band

fucking cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970301)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:30 PM
Author: light hairless haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970400)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:46 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

You can just say you thought it looked like a giant hoax so that's what you said. 1st amendment doesn't have a credibility threshold you have to meet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970267)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:52 PM
Author: Crimson pisswyrm

If all he said was that it was “a big hoax” then Ive been lied to and agree that the verdict is bullshit. My understanding is that he specifically accused the parents of these murdered kids of being frauds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970279)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:56 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

he did do that.

but how is that any different than 9/11 conspiracy theorists who think all the people on the planes were in on it and that their families are too? should those people be able to successfully sue for defamation too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970293)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:57 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

The reporting keeps putting "giant hoax" in quotation marks like that. I assume he said worse stuff they won't publish because they think it would further inflame people, but I have a hard time believing he sat there an analyzed photos of the dead kids. I'm guessing the real thrust of what he said was that the govt staged it, and that whether the kids really died was not what he was getting at. Also I'm guessing he was commenting on reporting already done by other orgs who splashed these photos on the front page and made wild claims themselves. They blamed the wrong Lanza at first and they spilled all kinds of details about his parents, but they didn't piss off the FBI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970298)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:05 PM
Author: Vengeful opaque field

Good. He's a despicable man. Profited from tragedy. Dancing on the graves of little kids. Fuck him.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970146)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:09 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

libs never really think about the consequences of policy in the future so long as the immediate results suits them.

jones profoundly sucks for this but political speech should have the highest protection. that includes fringe conspiracies like frogs being gay or sandy hook being an inside job. if jones said knew for a fact that it was an inside job (i.e. not an opinion) or if he encouraged his listeners to harass the families i would think differently.

people who call buzz aldrin a liar because they believe in flat earth shouldn't face consequences for their speech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970163)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:12 PM
Author: Flirting bronze menage

This is why I think they will overturn it. A based tx appeals court maybe. The thing that probably screws him is if he said the people were crisis actors. If he had just left it at Sandy Hook is a hoax he probably would be fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970169)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:19 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

but that's still his opinion unless he claimed to have some first hand knowledge. also it's not like he invented the conspiracy theory, he read about it and believed it.

it's not that big of a deal i guess because it's an isolated case and it's not like people are going to start suing each other from wrongthink now. i just don't like the sentiment that "alex jones sucks he deserves it."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970181)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:25 PM
Author: floppy house selfie

His 'first hand knowledge' was hiring Wolfgang Halbig and Dan Bidondi to confront the parents to their faces and call them actors. They also inspired others on social media and on infowars to call out the parents as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970206)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:31 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

link to him hiring them to confront them? if so that's more damning. but i would think he would be on the hook for harassment and not defamation then. i think he just had those cranks on the show.

"inspiring someone" to do something isn't enough. should political commentators be on the hook when someone who is "inspired" by them commits an act of violence? if i said "joe biden is ruining this country and we'd be better off of he's dead", and you went out and killed him, should i face consequences?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970221)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:40 PM
Author: Multi-colored lilac base gay wizard

100% yes (libs after January 6 but who ignore shit like the Congressional softball shooting)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970250)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:50 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

sweetie reality has a liberal bias and truth is an absolute defense. ok byebye.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970274)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:20 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

Isn't that criminal harassment? Why wasn't he arrested for that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970358)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 12:43 AM
Author: elite fluffy state people who are hurt

How dumb are you? Whether someone is a crisis actor is a fact not an opinion. Thinking someone is a piece of shit is an opinion. You can’t hide from your statements by saying you have no firsthand knowledge of the events. That would be absurd and protect the worst sorts of defamation, ie wild claims that are meant just to hurt people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971402)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:48 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

It's not just about what's morally right. When you ban political speech in this country you make it more powerful. People are more likely to seek out and believe "forbidden knowledge." That's exactly why Alex Jones is the hottest and most famous journalist in America in the first place Libs are shitheads who keep losing in court. Every shitlib lawyer sucks and the results prove it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970270)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:49 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970273)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:55 PM
Author: Vengeful opaque field

pretty sure the plaintiffs won here. so not sure what you're on about.

You getting btfo in https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167165&mc=46&forum_id=2 not enough?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970497)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:58 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

The plaintiffs did win. You're absolutely right about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970509)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:24 PM
Author: light hairless haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970369)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:18 PM
Author: up-to-no-good fragrant rehab

libs have shit for brains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970600)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 1:39 AM
Author: maniacal gaming laptop faggotry

Honestly, even as a shitlib who hates Alex Jones. I basically agree with you. I think the right to free speech should be as close to absolute as possible, and that includes protecting pieces of shit like Alex Jones.

Having said that, my understanding is the court never ruled on the merits of his case. Jones lost in a default judgment because he failed to produce required documents during discovery. This week's trial was only to determine damages. So I'm pretty okay with the outcome in this particular case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971551)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:11 PM
Author: buff patrolman

"whats wrong with profiting from tragedy?"

- RSF, probably

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970168)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 1:33 AM
Author: maniacal gaming laptop faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971540)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:24 PM
Author: Mind-boggling lodge clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970197)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:13 PM
Author: Olive casino

Does Texas cap punies? Deep got screwed by a super low cap in VA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970172)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:15 PM
Author: pea-brained deranged school cafeteria

No way this would hold up on a competent appeal. http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167151&forum_id=2#44967172

>>>

[[QUOTE FROM CASE:

This case is far clearer than Saenz. The record leaves no doubt that Bentley suffered mental anguish as a result of Bunton's and Gates's statements. Bentley testified that the ordeal had cost him time, deprived him of sleep, caused him embarrassment in the community in which he had spent almost all of his life, disrupted his family, and distressed his children at school. The experience, he said, was the worst of his life. Friends testified that he had been depressed, that his honor and integrity had been impugned, that his family had suffered, too, adding to his own distress, and that he would never be the same. Much of Bentley's anxiety was caused by Bunton's relentlessness in accusing him of corruption. But all of this is no evidence that Bentley suffered mental anguish damages in the amount of $ 7 million, more than forty times the amount awarded him for damage to his reputation. The amount is not merely excessive and unreasonable; it is far beyond any figure the evidence can support.

The other amounts of actual damages found by the jury are well within a range that the evidence supports. We do not consider whether the awards were unreasonable; that issue was for the lower courts. We conclude only that no evidence permitted the jury to make the findings it did.

Bentley v. Bunton, 94 S.W.3d 561, 607 (Tex. 2002).

In the Jones case, of course, the _reputational harm_ is zero. The allowable amount of compensatory damage would thus be even lower than in Bentley._

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167151&forum_id=2#44968082)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970174)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:21 PM
Author: deep ocher athletic conference native

"competent appeal" damn he sounds fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970188)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:22 PM
Author: pea-brained deranged school cafeteria

I fear so, yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970192)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:24 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970200)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:29 PM
Author: pea-brained deranged school cafeteria

To summarize (as relevant) the Texas Supreme Court decisions cited in the thread I link above:

(1) Pain & suffering damages for defamation have to be proportional to quantifiable reputational harm -- here, the provable reputational harm is zero, so the $4.1m should come way down.

(2) Punitives, of course, have to be in proportion to compensatory damages (_Gore_ etc. and also under Tx. precedents) -- and a party can challenge punis afresh after a remittitur of compensatory damages.

There is very strong Texas Supreme Court precedent that is directly on point here and which indicates the damages award is grossly excessive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970216)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:42 PM
Author: Mind-boggling lodge clown

even if so he'll spend hundreds of thousands more litigating this and then has to deal with a dozen other parents in CT, which will probably be more favorable venue for the P's.

I hope he loses everything. he's a lard of shit and deserves to be in jail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970254)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:42 PM
Author: pea-brained deranged school cafeteria

Good point, I should just pitch him and get it over with, would take me maybe a weekend to save him millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970256)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:53 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

He's gonna have to pay a lot more than that to convince a competent lawyer to take the negative publicity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970285)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:06 PM
Author: frum bright library lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970542)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 9:47 AM
Author: Adolf Anderssen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44992657)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:18 PM
Author: 180 bawdyhouse

Why are juries so fucking retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970178)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:20 PM
Author: thriller buck-toothed gas station sandwich

Think about how stupid you need to be to not get out of having to go to jury duty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970186)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:25 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

or because you want to be on the jury because you hate alex jones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970204)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:03 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

Did Jones' lawyers even show up for jury selection?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970314)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:05 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

only so he could get their emails and send them jone's unredacted cell phone images.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970324)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:12 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

One of the plaintiffs was an actual FBI agent. One weird trick to avoid having to get a search warrant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970336)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:13 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

they were all crisis actors (don't sue me)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970338)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:14 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

I think it's more likely someone helped Lanza facilitate the crime so that they could use it as propaganda to attack gun rights activists. I don't know what an FBI agent is doing in the picture but even if his kid died he's still a dirtbag and he was probably raising his kid to be dirtbag too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970342)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:07 PM
Author: charismatic flushed pervert toilet seat

David Hogg (kid involved in the Parkland shooting) is the son of FBI agent. Odd case!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970548)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:11 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

His Twitter account was taken over by pranksters in the Bureau at one point it seems. Haven't checked in recently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970566)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 11:09 PM
Author: provocative bespoke center friendly grandma

zozomo: "I'm gay." *flaps arms*

thug in black dress: "any objections?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971029)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:20 PM
Author: Hyperactive chestnut national security agency

falsely accusing specific individuals of despicable acts is protected by the first amendment if you do it for political reasons (xo constitutional scholars)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970185)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:24 PM
Author: Mind-boggling lodge clown

xo trumpmos are the bottom of the barrel and I'm talking about barrels full of shit pure shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970201)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:56 PM
Author: Vengeful opaque field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970499)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:04 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

lol@ shitlibs trying to straw man their way out of this. Too bad you're not AJ's lawyer and can't make shitty arguments on his behalf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970320)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:12 PM
Author: Crimson pisswyrm

Looks like he already paid some shitty lawyers to do that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970335)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:17 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

Link to his lawyers saying anything about this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970346)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:17 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

liberal (traditionally defined as someone who believes in broad civil liberties, most prominently free speech) hooting and hollering over someone facing consequences for political speech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970345)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:18 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

I've always considered myself a liberal and I refuse to stop calling myself that even now. I don't know what to call this assclown except "obedient."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970349)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:25 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

it's absurd i have to call myself "classically liberal" to disassociate myself from the niggerfaggots known as "liberals".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970373)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:28 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

When you tell them you think NAACP v Alabama was correctly decided, they want to argue with you but they can't because it was the NAACP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970391)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:23 PM
Author: Hyperactive chestnut national security agency

i think you're confused about what political speech is. making false statements of fact that damage a person's reputation is not political speech, even if you do it in order to promote your political positions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970366)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:27 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

sandy hook conspiracies are absolutely political speech regardless of if they have blowback on private individuals. saying the government orchestrated something for a political purpose and that individuals were in on it is political speech. same as if i said the moon landing was fake, which would also require many private individuals to be in on the hoax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970388)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:30 PM
Author: Hyperactive chestnut national security agency

you're just wrong. defamation does not become protected just because the defamatory statement has some nexus to allegations about government action. this is not the law and has never been the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970404)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:32 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

i'm not arguing the law i'm arguing policy. i never said this doesn't qualify as defamation under the law, i said that it shouldn't and we should afford more protection to political speech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970413)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:35 PM
Author: Hyperactive chestnut national security agency

well you're being silly. if "john doe tortured a kitten" is defamatory, "john doe tortured a kitten as part of a government conspiracy" is not and should not be protected

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970431)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:41 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

well i guess i just disagree, fella. i think political speech should have extremely high levels of protection, including shit i find disgusting.

i think saying all black people are subhuman idiots that should be disenfranchised shitty. and this would necessarily mean i'm saying some random black dude is a subhuman idiot. even though i find that speech despicable i don't think someone that says that should be defamation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970452)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:13 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

How can you know for sure that black people AREN'T subhuman if you're never allowed to test the hypothesis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970574)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 10:08 PM
Author: light hairless haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970801)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:44 PM
Author: Hyperactive chestnut national security agency

well of course there's no class-based defamation of a class as large as black people.

are you suggesting that expressing negative opinions about black people is political speech that is protected under your wacky new defamation rule?

so if i understand you right, "john doe tortured a kitten" is potentially defamatory, but "john doe tortured a kitten, which isn't surprising, given that he's black" is protected political speech? lmao, come on dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970707)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 10:08 PM
Author: light hairless haunted graveyard

‘Black people are shit, so they shouldn’t be able to vote’

Is a more accurate representation of what he’s saying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970800)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 10:19 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE? how come black people are "too big as a class to be defamed" but "sandy hook parents" aren't? how many people need to be in a class before it's too big? and is there even a class based exception to defamation?

"so if i understand you right, "john doe tortured a kitten" is potentially defamatory, but "john doe tortured a kitten, which isn't surprising, given that he's black" is protected political speech? lmao, come on dude"

no, your example is an individual action (torturing a kitten). whereas mine is a class based statement (all X people are Y).

jones said sandy hook with a hoax and consequently the parents were in on it. that is a class based statement, same as in my example with black people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970831)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:34 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

"Abortion is a constitutional right. It just is. That's the law."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970426)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:36 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

political speech being absolutely protected from defamation suits because of the first amendment is a way more plausible constitutional interpretation than privacy is penumbral right and so abortions constitutionally protected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970434)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:40 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

The trend in 1st amendment cases has generally been to expand the scope of 1st amendment protections over time. It just keeps getting bigger and bigger, so that now is covers all this activity that *used* to be forbidden.

Furthermore this Court has been on a tear, handing out yuge lopsided wins to conservatives in establishment clause cases. There was a recent one that was 9-0. Libs themselves built the foundation for all of this when they defended WWI protesters and neo-nazis. The biggest enemy of the 1st amendment on the court right now is probably Roberts, but he is still generally lax about it. OTOH he HATES seeing courts clogged up with junk litigation, especially when it's political. Don't tell libs though. Let them think the 1st amendment runs on autopilot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970448)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:43 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

yeah. except those were actual libs, and not whatever we have now that has no resemblance to actual liberals who call themselves liberals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970459)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:46 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

I mean yeah, I'm being catty. My custom is to distinguish between liberals and libs. I consider myself a liberal but not a lib. I am team Paul Robert Cohen. I liked Alex Jones 20 years ago because no one else was talking about how the Iraq war was bullshit. No one else was telling people who David Gergen was, but Alex Jones was confronting him the street with a microphone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970472)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:50 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970483)



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Date: August 7th, 2022 9:39 PM
Author: purple incel senate

I believe the greatbort has invented "shitlib" to help make the distinction clear

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44979447)



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Date: August 7th, 2022 9:40 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

I put shitlibs in a different category. They are just zombies. Libs will at least say "it's a clump of cells" or strongly imply that non-aborted babies will grow up to be black killers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44979455)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:29 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

I think you're a pumo because you know exactly what political speech is and you're ashamed to have a reputation associated with your own political speech. Same as ANTIFA. You hide your face.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970399)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:31 PM
Author: vivacious queen of the night elastic band

what constitutes a "false statement of fact"? if you genuinely doubt a media narrative about an event of national importance, is it a "false statement of fact" if you question it?

tbf jones' sandy hook theories are batshit, but this verdict seems like it could be extended to keep people in line to never deviate from what cnn tells you to believe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970407)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:33 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

if you disagree with snopes.com you need to go to a reeducation camp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970418)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:33 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

You're arguing with Oliver D'Arcy. He's trying to report on this and we're making it hard. I'd stop short of giving him too much to work with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970419)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:28 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

"We ask that you send a very, very simple message, and that is: stop Alex Jones. Stop the monetization of misinformation and lies,"

It is so ORDERED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970214)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:33 PM
Author: vivacious queen of the night elastic band

defamation law in the us is so fucked up, these damages numbers just picked out of thin air. retarded!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970229)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 7:45 PM
Author: trip personal credit line

What was he accused of anyway? Defaming who?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970266)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:02 PM
Author: exhilarant multi-billionaire

he accused parents of sandy hook victims of being crisis actors or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970313)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:06 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

A man hugged his daughter, but Alex Jones listeners refused to believe that she was his daughter. $50 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970326)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:20 PM
Author: up-to-no-good fragrant rehab

"testified that followers of Jones harassed them and sent them death threats for years in the false belief that they were lying about their son's death in the Dec. 14, 2012, shooting"

so schumer can be sued for $45m+ by kavanaugh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970610)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:26 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

Were any of these people convicted or even charged with harassment? Did any of the parents ever call the cops? Did they get any protective orders against anyone at least?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970635)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:27 PM
Author: contagious sick home

Its a crime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970638)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:30 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

I'll take that as a no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970650)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:24 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

lfmao

https://i.imgur.com/ynrREDk.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970370)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:32 PM
Author: Flesh Pungent Fortuitous Meteor Legal Warrant

Prophets were always persecuted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970412)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:47 PM
Author: contagious sick home

Can we bring debt slavery back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970473)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 8:49 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

The 13th amendment only adds a due process requirement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970477)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:02 PM
Author: contagious sick home

Okay retards. Keep this shit in mind before you talk retard level shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970520)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:12 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

he said as he called for Mike Flynn to be sentenced to hard labor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970571)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:13 PM
Author: contagious sick home

I isn’t do criminal work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970576)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:15 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

It's obvious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970583)



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Date: August 7th, 2022 9:40 PM
Author: purple incel senate

You don't have any job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44979454)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:04 PM
Author: contagious sick home

It pleases me immensely to see manifestations of justice in this world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970530)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 9:14 PM
Author: haunting bat shit crazy hunting ground trust fund

Did the laughing dad testify?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44970578)



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Date: August 5th, 2022 11:29 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

A lot of the parents have committed suicide so all we have is their dying declarations I guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44971116)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 2:07 PM
Author: godawful box office stock car

And this is just the first of many

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44973048)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 2:10 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

Yes, there are all least 9 more amendments to defend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44973061)



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Date: August 6th, 2022 3:11 PM
Author: Flesh Pungent Fortuitous Meteor Legal Warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44973347)



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Date: August 7th, 2022 9:24 PM
Author: nofapping pearl temple

If you watched the trial at all, you would know that Alex Jones' attorney is quite possibly the dumbest, worst attorney in the entire country--gave the other side basically every text message and other privileged document collected from his client, forgot to tell his witnesses not to speak to each other during the trial, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44979368)



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Date: August 7th, 2022 9:33 PM
Author: Azure titillating prole chad

Doh!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5167799&forum_id=2#44979416)