“I don’t feel safe on the trains,” said Jo-Ann Jones, who lives in Harlem and has spent almost her entire life in the city. “I’m afraid to go out after 8 o’clock.”

While the subway system has seen shocking attacks, including a stranger’s fatal shove and an unprovoked shooting, those merely amplified the kind of daily traumatic crime that riders once accepted as part of the bargain, as long as it never happened to them.

On the A train recently, credit cards were yanked from a wallet at knife point in Washington Heights; in Downtown Brooklyn, a gold chain was snatched; a few stops away, a 16-year-old boy was stabbed in the head and rushed to the hospital.

Most people interviewed, however, said they continued to ride the subways out of necessity and habit, and because there’s nothing so fast, easy and cheap. Ziggy Zacks, a New York native home for a visit, said the subway and the city itself are as strange as ever, but no stranger.

Americans have historically struggled to square their beliefs about safety with statistical realities. Across years of surveys about crime in the United States, Americans consistently believe crime in a given year is worse than the previous, despite long-range statistics showing that violent crime has been on the decline, nationally, for decades. During the pandemic though, such impressions were correct, with comparative caveats: crime did increase during the first year of the pandemic, but the uptick still fell far short of the rates of the 1990s, when the city saw more than 2,000 murders a year.

Still, the recent increases in violent crime have rattled residents and commuters accustomed to the safety of a more modern era.

“In the same way that expectations of inflation encourage inflation, expectations of crime encourage crime. Because people stop going out, they stop walking the streets,” said Fritz Umbach, an assistant professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. “It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/08/nyregion/subway-crime-ridership-nyc.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44982694)

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Fucking LOL at this logic. As best I can tell he's saying there's more crime because people aren't out and there's safety in numbers and the reason people aren't out is because they're afraid of crime. Therefore it's a self-fulfilling prophecy it has nothing to do with the VIOLENT CRIMINALS who apparently have no agency and will strike as soon as the room isn't crowded enough.

jfc libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44982710)

https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/sites/default/files/styles/faculty_picture/public/faculty/pictures/Umbach_Gregory.jpg?itok=XRc7FB_0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#45004564)

so you're objectively twice as likely to get crimed on? and according to libs this is "all in their head"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44982737)

But math is racist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44983502)

reminder: the dumb bitch who wrote this got scoops by sleeping with sources

https://nypost.com/2018/06/09/new-york-times-reporter-broke-the-biggest-rule-in-journalism/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44986201)

See, crime fell!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44983480)

As others have said - crime has doubled. That may not seem like enough to change behavior, but let's figure out what that means.

90% of assaults is more or less criminals assaulting criminals. Like 2% is people minding their own business getting attacked for no reason.

So even if assaults "only" double, you could still have 50x more people getting attacked for no reason on the subway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44984473)

maybe in general, but there's a way higher incidence of randos getting their shit pushed in on public transportation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44984601)

I take a taxi to work most days

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44985267)

Weird -- why is a bright, industrious, well-off and sophisticated young man like you finding yourself hanging out in a total nigger-infesting shithole with a sky high per capita murder rate "all the time"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44986188)

So it turns out that, when you run the numbers, you simply "have" to drive through Ft. Wayne in order to get anywhere worth being in any of the many different good parts of America where non-retards typically live? Wow, learn something every day, haha!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44986249)

Okay, but it could be something like 1 out of 200 crazy people are violent, compared to, say, 1 out of 10,000 non-crazy people. So, yes, it might be true that "the vast majority" are non-violent (199 out of 200, or 99.5%), but that doesn't mean they aren't still a way higher risk to be around.

"and are far more likely to be victims of crime than perpetrators"

Why do libs always say this as though it matters to anyone? If a bear I encounter in the woods has a 25% chance of attacking me, I'm not going to care if someone informs me that that bear has a 30% chance of being shot by a human at some point. All I care about is whether I am in danger when encountering a crazy person, not whether that crazy person happens to live an even more dangerous life himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44986267)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/business/media/james-wolfe-ali-watkins-leaks-reporter.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44986172)

A more Talmudic sentence has never been written.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44986878)

So if the absolute number of subway crimes is the same but the capita is only 60%, that means per capita crime is up only 67%? Is this correct, Trumpkins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5169307&forum_id=2#44986904)