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If you're Christian and haven't considered word "daily" in the Our Father, read.

Epiousios https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiousios Epio...
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In the Vulgate Jerome translated epiousios in Matthew 6:11 a...
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haunting space karate
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lake psychic
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Thank you for considering.
razzle-dazzle set goal in life
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lake psychic
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get this papist garbage out of here
Floppy disrespectful lodge
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I am quoting Jerome who existed far before the 'Papacy' exis...
razzle-dazzle set goal in life
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lake psychic
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glad youve admitted that the papacy is actually flame
Floppy disrespectful lodge
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Just inviting Christian brothers to consider complex histori...
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lake psychic
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haunting space karate
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indecent boiling water rehab
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On the subject of similar sources, are you familiar with: ...
haunting space karate
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Oh quite. from 5th grade on. Q was largely the source of 5 a...
razzle-dazzle set goal in life
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180 I didn’t know it was used in religion classes. ...
haunting space karate
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I knew that M-M-L were textually likely derived from a commo...
razzle-dazzle set goal in life
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Cr John is 180
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lake psychic
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the heretics can never escape john 6. sadly, much of the ep...
Lavender soul-stirring quadroon
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lake psychic
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in the scope of 2000 years, 60 is a eye blink.
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lake psychic
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Lavender soul-stirring quadroon
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lake psychic
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Amen brother. "I don't need anything but my bible, I...
citrine confused parlor
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lake psychic
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supersubstantial bread aka the food of the angels, the antic...
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razzle-dazzle set goal in life
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lake psychic
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Man cannot live on bread alone Super substantial bread ho...
Self-absorbed sneaky criminal
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razzle-dazzle set goal in life
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Without spending anytime researching or even thinking about ...
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lake psychic
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Razzle low-t institution
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Mark is obviously the earliest gospel
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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:01 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle set goal in life

Epiousios

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiousios

Epiousios (ἐπιούσιος) is a Greek adjective used in the Lord's Prayer verse "Τὸν ἄρτον ἡμῶν τὸν ἐπιούσιον δὸς ἡμῖν σήμερον"[a] ('Give us today our epiousion bread'). Because the word is used nowhere else, its meaning is unclear. It is traditionally translated as "daily", but most modern scholars reject that interpretation.

Since it is a Koine Greek dis legomenon (a word that occurs only twice within a given context) found only in the New Testament passages Matthew 6:11 and Luke 11:3, its interpretation relies upon morphological analysis and context. The traditional and most common English translation is daily, although most scholars today reject this in part because all other New Testament passages with the translation "daily" include the word hemera (ἡμέρᾱ, 'day').[1][2]

The difficulty in understanding epiousios goes at least as far back as AD 382.[3] At that time, St. Jerome was commissioned by Pope Damasus I to renew and consolidate the various collections of biblical texts in the Vetus Latina ("Old Latin") then in use by the Church. Jerome accomplished this by going back to the original Greek of the New Testament and translating it into Latin; his translation came to be known as the Vulgate. In the identical contexts of Matthew and Luke—that is, reporting the Lord's Prayer—Jerome translated epiousios in two different ways: by morphological analysis as 'supersubstantial' (supersubstantialem) in Matthew 6:11, but retaining 'daily' (quotidianum) in Luke 11:3.

The modern Catholic Catechism holds that there are several ways of understanding epiousios, including the traditional 'daily', but most literally as 'supersubstantial' or 'superessential', based on its morphological components.[4] Alternative theories are that—aside from the etymology of ousia, meaning 'substance'—it may be derived from either of the verbs einai (εἶναι), meaning "to be", or ienai (ἰέναι), meaning both "to come" and "to go".[5][6]

Just 'food' for thought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991764)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:02 AM
Author: lake psychic



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:02 AM
Author: lake psychic



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:03 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle set goal in life

In the Vulgate Jerome translated epiousios in Matthew 6:11 as supersubstantial (Latin: supersubstantialem), coining a new word not before seen in Latin.[5] This came from the analysis of the prefix epi- as super and ousia in the sense of substance. The Catholic Church believes that this, or superessential, is the most literal English translation via Latin, which lacks a grammatical form for being, the literal translation of the Greek ousia, and so substance or essence are used instead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991768)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:04 AM
Author: lake psychic



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:03 AM
Author: haunting space karate



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:04 AM
Author: lake psychic



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:08 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle set goal in life

Thank you for considering.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991782)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:04 AM
Author: lake psychic



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:04 AM
Author: Floppy disrespectful lodge

get this papist garbage out of here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991775)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:06 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle set goal in life

I am quoting Jerome who existed far before the 'Papacy' existed as we know it. This is a textual discussion. It is a unique word coined in two Gospels more or less simultaneously, but perhaps with similar sources.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991779)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:07 AM
Author: lake psychic



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:08 AM
Author: Floppy disrespectful lodge

glad youve admitted that the papacy is actually flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991783)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:11 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle set goal in life

Just inviting Christian brothers to consider complex historical and linguistic distinctions in text, that may have important impact. I wish you well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991788)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:27 AM
Author: lake psychic



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:39 AM
Author: haunting space karate



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Date: August 12th, 2022 7:19 AM
Author: indecent boiling water rehab



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:17 AM
Author: haunting space karate

On the subject of similar sources, are you familiar with:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_source

It is theorized that it’s the original source of both Matthew and Luke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991795)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:18 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle set goal in life

Oh quite. from 5th grade on. Q was largely the source of 5 and 7th grade religion class.

edit sorry if that sounded sharp. i didnt intend it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991797)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:23 AM
Author: haunting space karate

180

I didn’t know it was used in religion classes. What did you guys study about it?

https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/q-contents.html

I have this bookmarked for awhile. One of these days want to sit down and go through all the verses (and also to see which verses in Matthew and Luke are not part of it).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991807)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:28 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle set goal in life

I knew that M-M-L were textually likely derived from a common source. This is bourne out by the big 4 codices. Strong's Concordance was a Protestant source but we had access to it and used it.

This was in the context of a religious order of sisters teaching us basic textual criticism. I just happened to hang on to it when most did not.

I will add, John is my favorite Gospel. His mystic approach to the Christ is almost magical and elevates in a way the synoptic Gospels do not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991818)



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:38 AM
Author: haunting space karate

Cr John is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991847)



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Date: August 11th, 2022 1:13 AM
Author: lake psychic



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:39 AM
Author: Lavender soul-stirring quadroon

the heretics can never escape john 6. sadly, much of the episcopacy has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991853)



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Date: August 11th, 2022 1:13 AM
Author: lake psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44997625)



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Date: August 11th, 2022 1:14 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle set goal in life

in the scope of 2000 years, 60 is a eye blink.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44997628)



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Date: August 11th, 2022 1:15 AM
Author: lake psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44997634)



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Date: August 11th, 2022 12:09 PM
Author: Lavender soul-stirring quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44999024)



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Date: August 14th, 2022 5:50 PM
Author: lake psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#45013617)



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Date: August 12th, 2022 8:13 AM
Author: citrine confused parlor

Amen brother.

"I don't need anything but my bible, I can just read it and understand from the plain text what I need to do/believe as a Christian "

"Ok, please read John 6 plainly and explain to me how your following Jesus."

...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#45003061)



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Date: August 14th, 2022 5:49 PM
Author: lake psychic



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Date: August 10th, 2022 1:37 AM
Author: Lavender soul-stirring quadroon

supersubstantial bread aka the food of the angels, the anticipation of the unbloody representation at calvary, prefigured by the manna in the desert, the showbread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P45BHDRA7pU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44991845)



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Date: August 11th, 2022 1:12 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle set goal in life



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Date: August 11th, 2022 1:15 AM
Author: lake psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44997635)



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Date: August 11th, 2022 1:13 AM
Author: lake psychic



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Date: August 11th, 2022 12:21 PM
Author: Self-absorbed sneaky criminal

Man cannot live on bread alone

Super substantial bread however? Now we’re talking.

That said I don’t see a direct connection to transubstantiation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#44999100)



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Date: August 11th, 2022 12:33 PM
Author: Chest-beating arousing cuckoldry



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Date: August 12th, 2022 2:20 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle set goal in life



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Date: August 12th, 2022 8:10 AM
Author: citrine confused parlor

Without spending anytime researching or even thinking about it, I've always thought "daily bread" was a dual reference to the Lord providing for our temporal needs (no prosperity gospel here!) And the Eucharist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#45003055)



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Date: August 14th, 2022 5:50 PM
Author: lake psychic



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Date: August 12th, 2022 8:26 AM
Author: Razzle low-t institution



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Date: August 12th, 2022 7:23 PM
Author: House-broken Kitchen

Mark is obviously the earliest gospel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5170555&forum_id=2#45006382)