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What's the point of being in NATO if Ukraine gets the same protection?
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:03 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007416) |
Date: August 13th, 2022 12:05 AM Author: Tan Adventurous Home Giraffe we did not react to Ukraine getting invaded like we would to Poland getting invaded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007423) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:27 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch So NATO is useless if Russia invades. Thanks pumo who's definitely not getting paid to poast US government propaganda. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007525) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:38 AM Author: Costumed Trailer Park nato isn't a list of countries that america has decided are off limits to russia. countries in nato were required after 9/11 to send troops to afghanistan to assist us in toppling the taliban, for example. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007574) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:39 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch You still haven't explained what good being in NATO even is. You're just stringing random words together. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007577) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:07 AM Author: Costumed Trailer Park russia isn't occupying any nato countries in eastern europe and you still need help connecting the dots? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007430) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:39 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch What good is being in NATO though? Why do you sound exactly like a pumo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007579) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:40 AM Author: Razzle slap-happy national https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_Treaty#Article_5 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007583) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:41 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch You keep failing to answer the question. Let's watch you fail again. Go ahead and post another non-answer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007587) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:44 AM Author: Razzle slap-happy national i haven't posted anything itt except this
you're obviously presupposing something about the efficacy or practicality of article 5 since article 5 is the obvious answer to your op. so why not state that presupposition first and then we can go from there. |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:45 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch You failed AGAIN (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007594) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:39 AM Author: haunting persian wat protecftion did UKR get faggot? if it was in NATO the other countries wld be treaty bound to actually defend it, not just send them some old unused weapons, theyd have to send troops to kiev (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007581) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:41 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch It got Javelins and HIMARS and Russia is stalled and losing ground. The US also bombed its convoys and sank the flagship of the black sea fleet. What's the point of being in NATO if the US is doing that for non-NATO members? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007586) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:45 AM Author: haunting persian the US helps out their def industry pals too in saudi, yemen, syria, iraq, afghanistan, somalia, etc etc etc ... whoaaa they gave weapons to ukraine!!?!!! wow, soooooo rad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007595) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:46 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch So NATO is just a money laundering operation, nothing to do with actually defending against Russia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007597) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:48 AM Author: haunting persian whoaaa *head explodes
why u think US bitches most nato members dont spend 2% of GDP on military, they want them buying US shit, first thing germany did post ukraine was order tons of US shit like F-35.... entire thing is bullshit, US is terrorist |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:59 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch The Russian ruble has gained 50% this year but NATO countries got to sell some guns? I'll ask again: what's the point of being in NATO? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007624) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:58 PM Author: vibrant nowag (not an economics master man) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45010280) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 2:19 AM Author: Costumed Trailer Park 🧑🦼duuur what good is guaranteed military help vs potential military help that hinges on whether or not the united states feels providing it duuur🤤 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45007754) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:51 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch How is guaranteed we'll defend North Macedonia? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45008114) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:56 PM Author: vibrant nowag I believe it's guaranteed by Article 5 of the treaty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45010273) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 11:14 PM Author: Costumed Trailer Park op is an actual reatard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45010856) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 11:18 PM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch We're doing that for Ukraine too though, even though it never joined NATO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45010864) |
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Date: August 14th, 2022 1:11 AM Author: Costumed Trailer Park *we're* not defending anyone retard. we're giving the ukrainian military weapons that are inherently defensive--if they started firing the artillery we provided into russia it wouldn't get more it wouldn't hit a target that's more than 50 miles away. if russia tried to do in a nato country what it's doing in ukraine it would no longer have a military.
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Date: August 14th, 2022 1:14 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch We've made it clear that Ukraine will not be allowed to fall. Furthermore western nations have said the fate of Ukraine is the fate of the west. If the fate of western democracy hinges on the survival of a non-NATO country, what good is NATO membership? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45011236) |
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Date: August 14th, 2022 1:38 AM Author: Costumed Trailer Park do you think ukranians would have been sleeping in subway tunnels to avoid russian bombs if ukraine were a nato member? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45011309) |
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Date: August 14th, 2022 1:39 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch Why not? It sure seems like Russia doesn't give a fuck about "NATO " (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45011310) |
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Date: August 14th, 2022 1:48 AM Author: Costumed Trailer Park idk ask some nato countries that have been invaded before. you'll have to build a time machine though since it's never happened. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45011324) |
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Date: August 14th, 2022 1:50 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch Isn't that pretty much all of them?? A lot of these countries only joined NATO recently. Before that Russia was leaving them alone, so it looks like joining NATO didn't really change anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45011331) |
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Date: August 14th, 2022 4:02 AM Author: Costumed Trailer Park whereas there are a couple of neighboring countries whose territory russia has annexed (ukraine and georgia, both non nato members). you think it's the fearsome estonian military that keeps russian tanks from crossing their shared border? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45011496) |
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Date: August 14th, 2022 10:44 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch What are you trying to say? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45012013) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:54 PM Author: vibrant nowag If Ukraine was NATO, Russia would not have invaded. And in the extremely unlikely event that they did invade, Russia would have been repelled quickly and violently. As Ukraine isn't a NATO member state, they're instead getting enough modern weaponry to make Russian conquest extremely costly in terms of lives and materiel. That support might delay the inevitable for years, but it likely won't be enough to stave off conquest forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45010266) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 9:35 PM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch Why would being in NATO stop Russia from invading?? Obviously Russia had no fear of invading Ukraine to begin with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45010566) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 11:03 PM Author: vibrant nowag Uh, I think they had no fear of Ukraine *because* it isn't in NATO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45010817) |
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Date: August 13th, 2022 11:05 PM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch Is there any reason you think this or are have you been on hallucinogens since February. Russia has already proven it doesn't give a fuck about NATO. It shrugged off NATO's attacks and just kept on invading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45010820) |
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Date: August 14th, 2022 1:27 AM Author: smoky gay wizard this thread is why lead paint was banned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172617&forum_id=2#45011286) |
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Date: August 14th, 2022 11:08 AM Author: Obsidian geriatric brunch Wow these NATO countries sure don't seem to think Russia is afraid to attack them. What's the point of being in NATO?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/13/us-military-baltics-russia/
U.S. allies most vulnerable to Russia press for more troops, weapons About 100,000 U.S. troops are deployed across Europe, with a growing center of gravity in the east. But for those on Russia’s doorstep, it’s not yet enough. By Alex Horton, Karoun Demirjian and Michael Birnbaum August 13, 2022 at 6:00 a.m. EDT
RIGA, Latvia — As the United States and NATO inject personnel and equipment into Eastern Europe in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, vulnerable allies such as Latvia are scrambling to scale up their defenses for fear they will be next to come under attack.
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