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Solos: how many cases are too many?

I'm juggling about 120 clients right now, sometimes feels li...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
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Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
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Practice area?
Fighting pervert
  08/13/22
ARE country general civil practice. Lots of disputes over r...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
wow
Disturbing business firm
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Cerebral Harsh Theater Wrinkle
  08/13/22
That might be malpractice territory, brother.
Blathering Hyperactive School
  08/13/22
What's normal? How many should I target? It's tough beca...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
120 as a solo sounds like death. i have 5 contested cases an...
pink meetinghouse
  08/13/22
How much do your clients pay? Annual income?
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
200-250k/yr. my billing practices are erratic at best. I wri...
pink meetinghouse
  08/13/22
Currently have over 300. Feels like a lot
Buff field doctorate
  08/13/22
What kind of cases?
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
a case is a lot, bro. alcohol is poison.
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Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
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Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
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I had a similar number once. Almost all PI. I started to get...
arrogant odious heaven
  08/13/22
This. There must be some kind of case or area of jar that is...
laughsome naked community account
  08/15/22
How are you possibly managing 120 active non-PI litigation c...
Exhilarant Laser Beams Public Bath
  08/13/22
If solo = no staff, I don't see how this is possible. Yo...
mentally impaired adulterous spot indirect expression
  08/13/22
Fair point. I'm not a pure solo. I have essentially three...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
Can I be your paralegal? 175 LSAT score btw
Medicated Floppy Native Foreskin
  08/13/22
How much are you grossing
Fighting pervert
  08/13/22
Mid to high six figures. Hoping to make a profit of 500k+ t...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
lol you need to turn down the shitty cases man
irradiated tantric crackhouse
  08/13/22
Cases only go on contingency if they're high potential. The...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
k well you need to get better at gauging whether cases are s...
irradiated tantric crackhouse
  08/13/22
pretty good for are country. are you only doing litigation o...
Fighting pervert
  08/13/22
My policy is to try to do everything that comes in the door,...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
How do u get smart on everything? Mentor or practice guides?
Fighting pervert
  08/13/22
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Flesh Idiotic Partner
  08/13/22
Most of it is not rocket science. Lots of law firms inexpli...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
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Flesh Idiotic Partner
  08/13/22
With that cash flow why are you not hiring more staff
Flesh Idiotic Partner
  08/13/22
There’s no such thing because you hire and leverage th...
Titillating Sable Mad Cow Disease Office
  08/13/22
What if the associates start their own practices and become ...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
It's a risk you take in scaling up. Maybe emphasize hiring n...
Flesh Idiotic Partner
  08/13/22
Definitely hire non-attorney staff first.
Titillating Sable Mad Cow Disease Office
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Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
You guard against that in a couple ways. First, make the pay...
Titillating Sable Mad Cow Disease Office
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Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
180 knowledge dropped here
Fighting pervert
  08/13/22
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laughsome naked community account
  08/15/22
One
Umber dog poop
  08/13/22
Thanks for all the advice ITT. The last month has been craz...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
how did you generate clients
Flesh Idiotic Partner
  08/13/22
There's not a ton of marketing involved. A lot of it is ref...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
How'd you afford a brick and mortar building so early on
Flesh Idiotic Partner
  08/13/22
Rural area, relatively low property values. Low cost of doi...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
how big is the population?
Flesh Idiotic Partner
  08/13/22
The main area that I serve has about 100,000 people. Maybe ...
Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat
  08/13/22
120 is insane
Aquamarine associate
  08/15/22


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Date: August 13th, 2022 12:38 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

I'm juggling about 120 clients right now, sometimes feels like I'm drowning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45008845)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 3:50 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat



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Date: August 13th, 2022 3:58 PM
Author: Fighting pervert

Practice area?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009564)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 3:59 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

ARE country general civil practice. Lots of disputes over real estate, small business issues, estate planning.

Some of these are as simple as a will or an eviction. Others are complicated cases that will drag out for years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009572)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 3:58 PM
Author: Disturbing business firm

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009567)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 4:00 PM
Author: Cerebral Harsh Theater Wrinkle



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Date: August 13th, 2022 4:15 PM
Author: Blathering Hyperactive School

That might be malpractice territory, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009638)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 4:19 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

What's normal? How many should I target?

It's tough because I'm in a rural area without a lot of lawyers. And with very, very few young, energetic lawyers. Most of the few lawyers who are around here are Boomers or older Gen Xers who stopped giving a fuck long ago. So basically, if I don't help these people, nobody, and I mean nobody, else is going to. And they come flooding in, and display an amazing ability to come up with a wad of twenties to pay me with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009650)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 4:17 PM
Author: pink meetinghouse

120 as a solo sounds like death. i have 5 contested cases and i want to fire them all.

i have a generalish practice as well, but 120 ongoing matters? don't see how thats even possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009643)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 4:20 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

How much do your clients pay? Annual income?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009654)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:20 PM
Author: pink meetinghouse

200-250k/yr. my billing practices are erratic at best. I write down a number and receive that amount of money.

i make more money from land now though so im not motivated as much as i was before

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010167)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 4:22 PM
Author: Buff field doctorate

Currently have over 300. Feels like a lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009661)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 4:24 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

What kind of cases?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009670)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 4:26 PM
Author: irradiated tantric crackhouse

a case is a lot, bro. alcohol is poison.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009672)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 4:36 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat



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Date: August 13th, 2022 4:54 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009746)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 5:01 PM
Author: arrogant odious heaven

I had a similar number once. Almost all PI. I started to get them mixed up. Ended up farming out a lot of them and kept the ones I really enjoyed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009760)



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Date: August 15th, 2022 12:15 PM
Author: laughsome naked community account

This. There must be some kind of case or area of jar that is less profitable and or tolerable. Start weeding those out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45016552)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 5:01 PM
Author: Exhilarant Laser Beams Public Bath

How are you possibly managing 120 active non-PI litigation clients as a solo?

I don't think I could do more than 10 competently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009762)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 5:05 PM
Author: mentally impaired adulterous spot indirect expression

If solo = no staff, I don't see how this is possible.

You need to hire people and have them do the actual work for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009779)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 5:08 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

Fair point. I'm not a pure solo. I have essentially three paralegals right now, one who has a law degree but isn't barred in my state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009795)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 5:07 PM
Author: Medicated Floppy Native Foreskin

Can I be your paralegal? 175 LSAT score btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009790)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 5:41 PM
Author: Fighting pervert

How much are you grossing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45009926)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 6:05 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

Mid to high six figures. Hoping to make a profit of 500k+ this year. Some of these cases are on contingency so who knows what could happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010004)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 6:36 PM
Author: irradiated tantric crackhouse

lol you need to turn down the shitty cases man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010100)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:38 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

Cases only go on contingency if they're high potential. They have been like half my income so far this year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010218)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:45 PM
Author: irradiated tantric crackhouse

k well you need to get better at gauging whether cases are shitty before you take them on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010236)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 6:40 PM
Author: Fighting pervert

pretty good for are country. are you only doing litigation or transactional too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010103)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:36 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

My policy is to try to do everything that comes in the door, as long as it isn't something that I specifically exclude (criminal law, divorces, real estate closing involving the buyer taking out a mortgage).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010213)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:39 PM
Author: Fighting pervert

How do u get smart on everything? Mentor or practice guides?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010221)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:41 PM
Author: Flesh Idiotic Partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010225)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:42 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

Most of it is not rocket science. Lots of law firms inexplicably put explanations on their websites of how to do different things, often with citations of statutes and case law. Meaningless to the general public but a de facto practice guide for us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010228)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:43 PM
Author: Flesh Idiotic Partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010233)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:51 PM
Author: Flesh Idiotic Partner

With that cash flow why are you not hiring more staff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010261)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:48 PM
Author: Titillating Sable Mad Cow Disease Office

There’s no such thing because you hire and leverage the associates to get the work done while making much more money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010242)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:55 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

What if the associates start their own practices and become my competitors?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010269)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:59 PM
Author: Flesh Idiotic Partner

It's a risk you take in scaling up. Maybe emphasize hiring non-attorney staff first.

Seems like CSLG hiring chandler was a big move. Allowed CSLG basically to never have to do trial work anymore.

I also think you overestimate the motivation of your average attorney in starting their own practice. Maybe hire females, who tend to be less entrepreneurial?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010284)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 8:01 PM
Author: Titillating Sable Mad Cow Disease Office

Definitely hire non-attorney staff first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010292)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 8:55 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010435)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 8:01 PM
Author: Titillating Sable Mad Cow Disease Office

You guard against that in a couple ways. First, make the pay and benefits too good to give up. Second, your interview questions should be able to detect the people who like doing the work and have no desire to own a business. Third, you get really good at marketing and keep control over that (while the associates do the work, you build the network and check in on current and previous clients — your associates will have a formidable competitor and no knowledge of how to compete if they leave).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010290)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 8:55 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010436)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 9:34 PM
Author: Fighting pervert

180 knowledge dropped here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010565)



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Date: August 15th, 2022 12:18 PM
Author: laughsome naked community account



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Date: August 13th, 2022 7:48 PM
Author: Umber dog poop

One

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010244)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 8:07 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

Thanks for all the advice ITT. The last month has been crazy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010308)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 8:08 PM
Author: Flesh Idiotic Partner

how did you generate clients

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010313)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 8:13 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

There's not a ton of marketing involved. A lot of it is referrals from other lawyers who don't want to mess with this stuff anymore, if they ever did. Also just having a website and showing up on Google, having a sign on the building, etc.

People flood in, because there's so little competition. Granted, some of these are low value cases, but we signed up 10 or 15 new clients just this week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010326)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 8:15 PM
Author: Flesh Idiotic Partner

How'd you afford a brick and mortar building so early on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010333)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 8:17 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

Rural area, relatively low property values. Low cost of doing business in general.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010336)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 8:17 PM
Author: Flesh Idiotic Partner

how big is the population?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010338)



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Date: August 13th, 2022 8:23 PM
Author: Brilliant fantasy-prone theatre toilet seat

The main area that I serve has about 100,000 people. Maybe 30 lawyers, very few of whom will touch the types of cases that I do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45010349)



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Date: August 15th, 2022 12:12 PM
Author: Aquamarine associate

120 is insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5172792&forum_id=2#45016534)