Corporate ownership of residential rental properties should be illegal.
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Date: August 17th, 2022 9:14 AM Author: Haunting Market Yarmulke
Massive globohomo megacorps are artificially pumping the value of real estate buy gobbling up all of the SFHs. Corporate landlords' interests are completely opposite of their renters', but they don't care because they own the land and you will own nothing and be happy about it.
It's even worse in cities, where REITs and other entities literally buy or construct high rises not for condos, but for rentals. It's becoming increasingly difficult to find condos listed for sale in cities, and it's becoming more common for (((developers))) to literally buy up every unit in a complex to convert to rental units.
By contrast, individual owners of residential property tend to have more skin in the game and tend to take more of an interest in their property. It applies to renters, as well: People who rent from individuals tend to be better tenants and tend to take better care of the property. Even if that were not the case, individual ownership of massive real estate rental portfolios should be discouraged because of the broader societal implications. I'd even go as far as supporting massive taxation of residential rental income because it does nothing to promote a healthy society.
Discuss.
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Date: August 17th, 2022 9:18 AM Author: swashbuckling tan site sound barrier
this would probably just reduce the housing stock even further
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Date: August 17th, 2022 9:23 AM Author: alcoholic nofapping laser beams lay
"By contrast, individual owners of residential property tend to have more skin in the game and tend to take more of an interest in their property. "
And this is exactly why they can't do it. Our tenant friendly law means that a tenant can sign a lease, move in, announce on day 1 they're not paying rent, stay the duration of the lease by the time the eviction process completes, pour concrete down the toilets on the way out, smash the fixtures with sledgehammers, and leave, with the landlord never seeing a dime except the first month's rent and security deposit. Corporate landlords can absorb this because they have tens of thousands of units so a bad tenant is just a bad tenant. Residential landlords can't, because a bad tenant can destroy their single most valuable asset and they have no recourse. There's just no way for a residential landlord to manage these risks, at best they're gambling.
There's also downsides from the good tenant perspective. If you're just renting some guy's house, then he might decide not to renew your lease for any or no reason. Or maybe he dies and his heirs just want to liquidate it, etc. By contrast if you pay your rent, a corporate landlord will basically always renew.
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Date: August 17th, 2022 9:38 AM Author: Haunting Market Yarmulke
Right, being a landlord isn't something that anyone should want to do. Shitty tenants like that belong in public tenements like benzo's.
But let's not think for a second that corporate landlords "can absorb this," they can't. They have shareholders, after all! That's why it's laughable to claim that a corporate landlord "will basically always renew" -- they all play the same game. You move in and they jack up the rent when you go to renew because they know the costs associated with moving mean that you'll likely acquiesce to their scheming.
It's bad all around and there needs to be some sort of policy-level change to address theses issues.
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Date: August 17th, 2022 9:53 AM Author: alcoholic nofapping laser beams lay
I'm a homeowner now but was a renter for a decade plus. The apartment building's website can make sure you're not getting screwed-- you can confirm the renewal price they're asking is what they also want from new tenants. I never got a highball offer and usually negotiated it a bit down because I could make the argument I was a known quantity who always paid the rent. The rent increases you're seeing are just reflecting the supply and demand of housing.
If you don't like the price of housing the public policy solution is simple, support more housing. This is very difficult in practice, incumbents hate upzoning (taking down a few SFH's to build a large apartment complex) and incumbents also hate new housing construction that will make things more crowded.
The public policy solution might be difficult but the private solution isn't, just don't be poor and then buy yourself a house or condo HTH.
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Date: August 17th, 2022 3:04 PM Author: ocher odious messiness
can i own 2 homes in this scenario? can i own 10? can me and a buddy buy a small apartment building? can me and 3 friends buy a large apartment complex?
basically, draw the line because this type of suggestion is really hard to understand without knowing exactly what the word "corporate" means here.
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Date: August 17th, 2022 3:05 PM Author: Brass soul-stirring telephone digit ratio
Not a good idea.
I aspire to multiple properties.
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Date: August 17th, 2022 6:30 PM Author: wine home foreskin
1. What changes in the past 10-15 years made this so attractive to big financial firms? Why was this never an issue before now?
I would guess that the Fed's trillions of MBS purchases since 2010 have something to do with it.
2. Is this an organic market phenomenon, an unforeseen consequence of Fed interventionism, or part of an "eat the bugs" ESG / climate agenda to permanently alter Western living standards and reduce us to serfdom?
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The correct solution requires a full contextual understanding of the problem.
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Date: August 17th, 2022 8:42 PM Author: Bronze yapping forum
i am sympathetic to this and have ranted about it on this board a lot. i think it would be a better idea to just tax rentals and AirBNBs at a high enough rate to discourage *anyone,* individual owners or institutional owners, from sitting on them and renting them out
the only people renting should be the genuinely lower classes, just like the only people working service and entry-level jobs should be the genuinely lower classes and kids. the entire model of america is built and dependent on home ownership. we are not europe. if regular people cannot own homes, this country cannot ever be a healthy place
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Date: August 18th, 2022 5:33 PM Author: Racy area mood
a buyside broker told me at a pool yestarday that like 2 companies own all the real estate and ag land between Orlando and West Palm Beach
lol
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Date: August 18th, 2022 5:41 PM Author: Cracking Sadistic House
i've rented from both individual landlords and corporate landlords, and corporate landlords with professional management companies are way better, in my experience. individual landlords are lazy, penny pinching dickheads, while corporate landlords at least acknowledge that there are some costs associated with owning rental real estate. individual landlords take everything personally, and will fuck you over because of stupid shit. wouldn't readily rent from an individual again.
NOTE: i am not a deadbeat, always pay my rent on time, take reasonable care of the premises and don't engage in disruptive behavior. if you're a deadbeat, ymmv
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Date: August 18th, 2022 5:52 PM Author: Haunting Market Yarmulke
It's been the complete opposite for me, with notable exceptions. I rented from the same corporate landlord in MFH for three years without a single issue. It was also the most expensive unit I've ever rented, at $3,795/month foe a 700 sqft studio. But, the place was incredible and made life in mfh really awesome.
In FL, it's the corporate landlords that have been the absolute worst, penny-punching, lazy, and incompetent. One time, at another property, maintenance came in unannounced. I heard someone in the living room (I was in the office) and since my gf was at work, I chambered a round and walked out of my office. The guy was incredibly apologetic & we actually got along great after that.
But, I'm also a great tenant and do my best to leave the place in just as good of condition as it was when I moved in. I spackle & sand holes I put in the walls, steam clean the carpets, and detail the appliances.
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Date: August 19th, 2022 9:00 PM Author: magenta dashing hall
This is the most objectively false part of the whole analysis:
"By contrast, individual owners of residential property tend to have more skin in the game and tend to take more of an interest in their property. It applies to renters, as well: People who rent from individuals tend to be better tenants and tend to take better care of the property."
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Date: August 19th, 2022 10:57 PM Author: Frozen Immigrant
Just a personal observation: I used to be much more economically liberal until I (really recently) discovered that the ends, making living affordable for everyone, really involved the means of fucking over the upper middle class and making everyone, in some way, dependent on GC. This extends to social ills and breeds unholy jealousy.
I still have not told anyone at work that I own a coop in MFH and that I even have a wife (let alone my mistress too). I will be UMC for the rest of my life, if I am lucky, and there are people who HATE me for it.
Libs, in any stripe or form, literally want to watch you bleed if you have a modicum of success
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