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Lmao, ZZZ wants to appear "in person" (b/c he doesn't want xo to watch?)
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Date: September 12th, 2022 4:51 PM Author: Tan indirect expression Kinda funny, but if I had a complete shit argument I'd hate for the xo peanut gallery to be lolling at me too (not to mention having Rick Panama always interrupting) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45160155) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 4:52 PM Author: Charismatic pea-brained pistol university i must have accidently unmuted when i put my phone down on the charger, won't happen again! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45160162) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 5:01 PM Author: Tan indirect expression Admit that YOU tortiously interfered with ZZZ's argument, causing TSINAH to lose the motion to dismiss. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45160213) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 7:44 PM Author: Citrine sneaky criminal lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45160978) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 7:45 PM Author: cracking dull nursing home mad-dog skullcap has he lost it already? LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45160981) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:17 PM Author: autistic sapphire library striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161375) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:19 PM Author: autistic sapphire library striped hyena "But your Honor there is someone named 'Rick Panama' that always joins my Zoom hearings and doesn't know how to use the mute button. If I have to listen to his GPS directions during my oral arguments, I will lose my train of thought, which will give EPAH an unfair advantage in this hearing. Therefore you must compel him to fly from Hawaii for an in-person hearing." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161386) |
Date: September 12th, 2022 7:09 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part You have no idea why he wants to appear in person. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45160829) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 7:49 PM Author: Awkward nibblets circlehead You have made a very powerful enemy! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45160998) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 7:50 PM Author: Tan indirect expression To introduce the live testimony of a Fort Jefferson ranger to testify about how I availed myself of the fishing laws of the State of Florida in 1989? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161005) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:11 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part Maybe he wants to offer a certified copy of your sanctions motion to prove you waived personal jurisdiction? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161082) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:12 PM Author: coral kitty cat OMG, this is one of the more hilarious arguments I've heard in this whole debate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161087) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:17 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part On March 27, 2019, the Second Department issued a decision in HSBC Bank USA, N.A. v. Taub, 2019 NY Slip Op. 02319, holding that a defendant waived his personal jurisdiction defense by engaging in significant activity in a lawsuit, explaining:
A defendant may waive the issue of lack of personal jurisdiction by appearing in an action, either formally or informally, without raising the defense of lack of personal jurisdiction in an answer or pre-answer motion to dismiss. Here, by opposing the plaintiff's motions, including its motion for a judgment of foreclosure and sale, and cross-moving for sanctions against the plaintiff, the defendant engaged in significant activity after his statutory time to answer had expired, which amounted to an informal appearance. The record indicates that the defendant's counsel appeared in court on at least 11 occasions without raising the jurisdictional objection. Therefore, the defendant waived any objection on the ground of lack of personal jurisdiction.
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:21 PM Author: Sinister outnumbered locale trust fund relevance to a case where epah has objected to personal jurisdiction in like every document he's filed so far? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161130) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:22 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part That's just what I found from googling in my phone for a minute. There is caselaw that says PJ is waived if the Defendant seeks relief from the court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161135) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:30 PM Author: clear personal credit line You just didn’t have that case law on your phone, so you posted completely inapposite authority?
Also, isn’t seeking dismissal by motion seeking relief from a court? What you’re saying is that PJ isn’t a real defense because if you raise the issue you’ve waived any objection to jurisdiction. |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:44 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part If you're not a lawyer, you can admit it and nobody will care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161235) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:47 PM Author: clear personal credit line I do not own a “nationally recognized law firm” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161242) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:50 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part Is that what ZZZ claims? Seems like it is a true claim. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161258) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:54 PM Author: Sinister outnumbered locale trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161279) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 10:00 PM Author: Hilarious tanning salon What do you think "relief" is here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161627) |
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Date: September 13th, 2022 7:50 AM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part A judgment of attorney fees owed to EPAH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162962) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:22 PM Author: cracking dull nursing home mad-dog skullcap ur doing a ton of legal research on this EPAH matter (to which you are totally not at all involved in any way, just commenting as a neutral outsider). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161137) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:23 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part I know all this stuff off the top of my head. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161141) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:31 PM Author: clear personal credit line Wait I thought u had to “Google it in [your] phone.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161189) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:43 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part I had to find a case quote, but the substance is all in my head. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161231) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:49 PM Author: clear personal credit line So you went to the trouble of finding a case quote that doesn’t help your argument at all, then poasted it here?
How tf did you get into HLS |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:51 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part Did you read it? Can you understand legal writing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161262) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:52 PM Author: clear personal credit line Well yeah it says that if you appear in a case and fail to raise the pj issue until late in the process, you’ve waived it. Which obviously isn’t the case here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161269) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:54 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part Other cases say if you seek any relief you waive PJ. Right now Florida courts say seeking sanctions isn't technically seeking relief, but judges could be convinced to go along WI the majority of jurisdictions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161278) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:55 PM Author: clear personal credit line Good luck with that! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161281) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 11:40 PM Author: Wonderful Federal Set I told him to think on that for just five minutes.
He’s looking for an argument to scare epah into maybe agreeing to a dismissal of the law suit. He has also suggested he will reverse the prevailing case law of Florida that agrees with the opinion of everyone here on appeal. That also has no traction.
He needs a. Is or argument that will at least cause epah some second thoughts as to accepting the mere dismissal. I can’t think of any at the moment. Fussing about an appeal isn’t going to get candy ride anywhere if there are no issues meritorious enough to take up on appeal.
The jurisdictional thing is a nonstarter. You can’t waive jurisdictional objections by objecting with every filing and filing a motion for sanctions for relief. PLEASE Candy ride don’t tell me how there are lots of cases that say otherwise. They are inapposite.
Not legal advice. |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 11:47 PM Author: Wonderful Federal Set I guess you could do what senior attys always do — blame it on the junior! Zzz will just have to come across as so clueless thst he thought that argument was reasonable. If zzz is young enough maybe the judge will just laugh at that argument and won’t get extra pissed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162128) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:26 PM Author: opaque travel guidebook I've always assumed you were female but you might be actually just dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161160) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:50 PM Author: Lascivious sexy private investor Isn’t “ without raising the defense of lack of personal jurisdiction in an answer or pre-answer motion to dismiss” kind of fatal to your stupid fucking argument? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161259) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:58 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part Maybe if you just go off that one case I googled, but I can't say what EPAH did since I haven't seen the docket. Did he also file a motion to appear remotely? That's PJ right there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161297) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:04 PM Author: Lascivious sexy private investor It’s your fucking research dipshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161315) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:42 PM Author: clear personal credit line Lmao. So if you ask the court to order a remote hearing then you’re DUN HERE with ur PJ argument? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161521) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:55 PM Author: Hilarious tanning salon In cases where personal jurisdiction defects are alleged, one waives the argument by trying to avoid the burdens imposed by the defective complaint?
no |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:56 PM Author: Sinister outnumbered locale trust fund one weird web to trap the worm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161613) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:57 PM Author: Tan indirect expression "Did he also file a motion to appear remotely? That's PJ right there."
BAM! epah trapped like a little worm in a very sophisticated web of legal strategy |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 10:04 PM Author: Hilarious tanning salon They haven't even unleashed the real killer...
1. If you ask for "relief," you waive objections to jurisdiction.
2. Asking for dismissal is asking for "relief."
3. Therefore, jurisdiction is established when you argue that it doesn't exist!
CHECK-FUCKING-MATE! |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 10:15 PM Author: Sinister outnumbered locale trust fund this kind of brilliant argument is what you pay a nationally recognized law firm for (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161687) |
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Date: September 13th, 2022 4:13 AM Author: Hilarious tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162781) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:26 PM Author: autistic sapphire library striped hyena Serious question RT: I didn't even go to law school, and even I can see that this case is totally irrelevant here. And the only response you can manage is, "There are other cases that prove I'm right, but I can't show them to you." Do you not realize how badly you are humiliating yourself? What are you trying to accomplish here?
I can only think of three possibilities: 1) You are desperately trying to save face on the bort after being humiliated by EPAH and you hope that people won't actually take the time to analyze your arguments. 2) You think that this will somehow intimidate EPAH. 3) You are actually stupid enough to believe that this is a good argument. I am leaning toward 3), but it would be fascinating to get inside your brain and see your actual motivations here. |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:29 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part "Serious question RT: I didn't even go to law school" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161430) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:40 PM Author: Lascivious sexy private investor I cast my vote for #3 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161513) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:43 PM Author: clear personal credit line Another vote for #3 here, or he’s running epic flame and deserves MPM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161527) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:31 PM Author: Hilarious tanning salon So not at all what EPAH did. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161454) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:26 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy nighttime boiling water explain? it's black letter law that a party seeking relief from a court can't asset that the court doesn't have jurisdiction over such party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161164) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:31 PM Author: clear personal credit line This is retarded in the context of this case. What you’re saying is that you’re only entitled to sanctions in a frivolous suit if you waive any jurisdiction defense? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161186) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:45 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part Sanctions are rarely granted. If EPAH didn't want to waive PJ, he should have gotten a dismissal and sued everyone for malicious prosecution if he is so butthurt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161238) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:47 PM Author: offensive drunken toaster gas station true, rarely granted but in this case its a coin flip at best for zzz. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161243) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:59 PM Author: Hilarious tanning salon If EPAH didn't want to waive PJ, he could have filed a motion to dismiss the frivolous complaint and a motion for sanctions to enforce procedures designed to protect those in his position. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161622) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:21 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy nighttime boiling water i don't make the rules. if you want a court to give you relief, you can't claim the court doesn't have jurisdiction over you. it's pretty simple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161396) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:22 PM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161402) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:44 PM Author: clear personal credit line LINK to ur authority pls thank. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161536) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 11:56 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy nighttime boiling water two worlds united v. zylstra (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162167) |
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Date: September 13th, 2022 12:02 AM Author: Sinister outnumbered locale trust fund flame?
"A. A motion for attorney's fees under section 57.105 does not waive the defense of lack of personal jurisdiction." |
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Date: September 13th, 2022 12:11 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy nighttime boiling water wait what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162251) |
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Date: September 13th, 2022 12:12 AM Author: Sinister outnumbered locale trust fund is this not the case your are citing?
https://casetext.com/case/two-worlds-united-v-zylstra |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:53 PM Author: Hilarious tanning salon And it's your position that one with a jurisdictionally defective complaint can engage in litigation misconduct with impunity because any attempt to enforce the rules would constitute a request for "relief"?
I disagree. It's not a request for "relief" in the relevant sense. |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 10:01 PM Author: clear personal credit line Yes, that’s his position (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161629) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 11:34 PM Author: Wonderful Federal Set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162055) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 7:13 PM Author: cracking dull nursing home mad-dog skullcap It's unconscionable that ZZZ does now want Rick Panama to view this proceeding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45160855) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 7:50 PM Author: Sinister outnumbered locale trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161009) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 11:19 PM Author: Charismatic pea-brained pistol university i was more listening, not watching, had to keep me eyes on the road
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Date: September 12th, 2022 7:14 PM Author: mustard vibrant hospital can we do one of those streaming things like Rietka Law did during the Kyle trial? 'cause that would be fun. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45160861) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 7:48 PM Author: mind-boggling wild piazza queen of the night aw hell yeah. who's got a light month? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45160991) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 7:51 PM Author: Sinister outnumbered locale trust fund That rekieta guy must be a poaster, he should do it himself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161011) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 7:52 PM Author: mind-boggling wild piazza queen of the night i'm divided. he's obviously a 4channer/KF guy, never really uses xo memes, BUT he knew about the UCLA manifesto guy, which was big on here, so who knows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161013) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 8:23 PM Author: opaque travel guidebook Can we get him to stipulate his past court appearances? Ie tsinah case. What did he prefer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161142) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:28 PM Author: Tan indirect expression Your english is horrible, but if you mean why was he remote in TSINAH case but insists on being in person in this one, it's b/c he thinks if he insists on in-person, the judge will make both of us be in person. I have $500 says that when the judge comes back and says "fine, Mr. Epah can appear telephonically, and ZZZ in person," at the last minute he'll say, "oops something else in one of my many BIG CASES came up; I'll have to appear by phone too." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161427) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:35 PM Author: Sinister outnumbered locale trust fund that would be hilarious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161491) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:37 PM Author: Razzmatazz indecent quadroon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161497) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:38 PM Author: cracking dull nursing home mad-dog skullcap I don't get why u don't sue him in Hawaii (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161501) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:56 PM Author: Tan indirect expression You generally can't sue someone for suing you, except after you get a judgment in your favor and can then sue for malicious prosecution if you have the goods. AFAIK there's no basis for PJ in Hawaii over either of these fools. So if we need to go that route, it will be done in Florida. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161611) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 11:38 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy nighttime boiling water so you admit that you are contemplating availing yourself of the laws of florida (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162076) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 11:41 PM Author: Wonderful Federal Set Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162089) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 11:48 PM Author: Lavender boyish parlour nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162131) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 11:49 PM Author: Sinister outnumbered locale trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162134) |
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Date: September 13th, 2022 1:22 AM Author: Fuchsia Comical Party Of The First Part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162516) |
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Date: September 13th, 2022 1:35 AM Author: Tan indirect expression “Your Honor, he said that in the future he might avail himself of the laws of the State of Florida by suing me for this frivolous filing!!”
“Good observation. That’s good enough for me. I find that PJ exists.”
Goddamn this has got to be the most TTT law board currently in existence. |
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Date: September 13th, 2022 5:31 AM Author: clear personal credit line Currently, yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45162855) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 10:39 PM Author: cobalt passionate antidepressant drug trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161796) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:42 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Godawful Casino Judge: who is this teenage pussy and horse cum blast who joined the zoom hearing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161523) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 9:44 PM Author: sick talented market dingle berry I said RESEMBLE monkeys has joined the waiting room (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161537) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 10:51 PM Author: electric windowlicker friendly grandma Candy Ride got gaped itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161860) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 10:53 PM Author: cracking dull nursing home mad-dog skullcap candy ride is one of the perps (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161870) |
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Date: September 12th, 2022 10:55 PM Author: clear personal credit line He got gaped all over the board for hours today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5190994&forum_id=2#45161878) |