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LMAO, new Florida complaint by ZZZ against RK for winning $3.6 against EJ
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:19 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Jowers v. Kinney, Alachua County
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Date: October 25th, 2022 3:11 PM Author: tripping indian lodge "I Still Unload": This Man Is a "Nullo" Who Removed His Penis and Balls 559.91K
Simon Davis
10/16/14 11:10AM
Filed to: INTERVIEWS
In 1994, a South Florida man who goes by the name Gelding was surgically castrated. In 2011, he had his penis removed as well. He's a "nullo": A cisgender man who removes his external genitalia completely as a form of body modification, and he recently agreed to answer our questions—from "why?" to "what do balls taste like?"
Gelding is a nudist and describes himself as a submissive bear. Apart from his desire to use a pseudonym, he let it all hang out (so to speak) when I reached out to him and graciously answered every question I had.
Is nullo your preferred term to describe yourself and others like you who are castrated and have removed their penis?
Yes, the reason that we use that it is not transgender. It's simply nullification of what you've got. A friend of mine Mack in San Francisco likes to use the term "mascunull", because I remain as masculine as they come with fur and so forth. But I no longer have the parts.
What are some misconceptions people have about nullos?
A few men don't know their own physiology to the point where they think if they lose their balls they can't come any more. And that's false. If you look at the physiology you see that the fluids are made by the seminal vesicles and the prostate. Very little of the fluid and the content is produced in the testes. I still unload.
But the active ingredient for impregnating someone isn't there.
Right.
Do you get a lot of people who think you're trying to become a woman?
Absolutely. And it's mostly the medical profession who sees the sexes as either male or female. And anyone who wants to alter any part of that is in some way suffering from gender dysphoria. They don't like themselves for some reason and they want to change gender. And that's absolutely false.
It's not a dysphoria. I see it in the positive way of working toward something, rather than away from something. Many of the guys instead of putting a negative feel on it see it as a positive. Being castrated is a positive to them. Rather than removing something that they dislike, they are moving in the direction that they want. I went through a long set of psychological evaluation sessions with a psychologist here in town, because that was necessary in order to have the penis removed.
You've previously discussed your 1994 castration. However, I didn't find anything on your penis removal in 2011. Can you talk about that?
I knew I was uncomfortable in having frankly large male parts. I would quite often sit on my own balls because they were loose unless I wore something tight and held them in I would sit on them and squash them. That got me into trouble playing soccer in college when they forced us to wear these hard plastic cups. What happened was I fell on a guy's upright knee with the weight of another player behind me, so two of us fell on the knee. The knee happened to hit the middle of the plastic cup and imploded and tore me up. I was severely injured.
The doctor saved everything but over a period of time the nerves gave me some problems and I had aches in my testicles all the time. When I was in the military service they tried doing a varicose vein removal but that didn't help, it just made matters worse. They thought I was suffering from varicose veins. So after leaving the service I had them removed. And that removed that little problem but I still had the nerve sensations in the penis which woke me up at night. So I could get erect, but it was painful.
So I talked with my urologist and he said the only treatment for that was to make it numb, which is very dangerous because if you make something like that numb then you don't know if it's infected for some reason. Or remove it, but to do that he needs to cover his ass and asked for a psychological evaluation. And my own doctor is a professor at Nova Southeastern University here in. She is the most brilliant doctor I've ever met. So, I asked her about this problem and she was very forthright and said "well, we'll have to treat you". She didn't consider it something that was wrong with me, she said "we have to investigate." I went to see a psychiatrist and he spent a good 90 minutes with me and said "yes, I have just the person that can work with you." So the psychologist did a battery of personality tests and said "you're perfectly fine, your only problem is that you've got these physical problems which work on your nerves." And I said "yeah." And he said "it also works with your personality" because I'm a gay submissive and I always have been and it wasn't working right. So in order to to fix it I worked toward a goal of having things removed. And that was it. I'm working in a positive way to solve my own personal problem.
But was castration something you were contemplating prior to the injury?
Yes. For whatever reason I was always embarrassed by the size of what I had. It didn't fit my personality.
Do you remember when you the fantasy to remove your testicles first occurred?
I had a baby face in high school, there was one of these bullies and he said "you have a man's equipment but you're still a boy" and he squeezed my balls in the shower. He was on the football team, I was on the soccer team showering together and he said "you shouldn't have such big equipment" so he squeezed my balls and at that point it was just a fantasy for me. So how about getting rid of them for some reason?
When did it go from fantasy to aspiration?
It became a fetish thing where I would do sort of more self destructive things with them like putting rubber bands around them and needles through the balls and whatnot. It's a progression which a lot of guys go through. It's something that works on them and they say "Well, how about if we just have them off? Then I won't be bothered by this constant urge to hurt them". And this is where a psychologist gets into the dysphoria. It's very difficult to distinguish whether it's a dislike for something or instead you're working towards something else. I always thought when I was on the beach—I was also on the swim team—and we had Speedos, it was difficult to pack everything in frankly. I would be embarrassed and everybody was looking and here I am and I've got the biggest package and I'm not the biggest guy and I got a whole lot of looks from everybody.
I had a big dick, it got damaged and I was a bottom. I didn't want to use it, I got pushed into using it, I had to take all sorts of medications and was tired of being somebody else's tool.
Broadly speaking, how can someone know that being a nullo is something they actually want to go through with as opposed to something they fantasize about?
That's something really for a psychologist to answer, but in talking to all the guys that I've been talking with, they try to come up with all sorts of different rationalizations to justify it. In my case, my medical situation really didn't justify it because I was just uncomfortable with what I had. It wasn't medically necessary. But I felt that I would be much more comfortable having the issues of having the sensation but not being able to use it well. It was something like a guy having a useless appendage and it's something he has to carry around, and it becomes baggage after a while.
If someone starts/botches the process on their own, what would you recommend they do? Should people use a cover story to avoid getting in trouble?
No. Go to the emergency room. Today, they have been exposed to a lot more of the literature out there than they were 20 years ago. They're not going to be institutionalized. I mean years ago they used to institutionalize guys that were gay.
How would you say the breakdown is between gay and straight men for nullos?
I would have to say it's mostly gays. I don't know of a straight guy who became a nullo.
You had said in a previous interview that for castrations it's about a two to one for gay to straight men that decide to do it.
I've heard of a couple of straight guys who decided that they were making too many babies so they had their balls off so they could take testosterone and continue. I know quite a few bodybuilders both gay and straight whose testes have shrunk because of the steroids they are taking which are bad for their health. So they got castrated and now they're on medically injected testosterone which is good for them. It's not as harmful as oral steroids are or some of the other shit that they're pumping into themselves.
How would you recommend people do their penectomy and castration?
In the last couple of years, my friend Mack from San Francisco ran into Dr. Crane from Brownstein & Crane and he met him, and I don't know how the two of them had the discussion, and then I had a phone interview with Dr. Crane and I explained my situation with him and now Dr. Crane is no longer doing just transgender type of procedures but [also] genital modifications.
So in a way, you educated him.
The protocol that the doctors use for transgender people is called the Harry Benjamin protocol. So for example Dr. Reed in Miami, before you go to his clinic you have to take female hormones for six months and show some development of breasts and whatnot, some feminine characteristics before he will deal with you. And why do that when you simply want to get the genitals removed?
If anything, wouldn't additional testosterone be what you'd need after castration?
Men who get castrated, they do get depressed if they don't start fairly right away on testosterone. Because the falling hormone causes hot flashes first of all, and then the loss of libido. You lose all interest in sex and everything else.
Are there any changes that occur to the body as a result?
Body changes are minimal really. If you lose your balls, you won't lose all your hair.
What about voice? Is that a myth?
Voice doesn't change, no. The larynx is a hard tissue, and the voice box and everything else is a hard tissue. But the timbre of your voice is a factor of the larynx. I sang in the college choir, I know about these things.
One thing I noticed while reading testimonials is that many people seem to try their hand at castration and penectomy but then go to the doctor only if it goes wrong. How much of this would you say is due to the medical profession's reluctance to remove healthy body parts and how much is due to people's general fear of discussing this type of thing with their doctor or therapist?
You know about the Hippocratic oath right? "First do no harm". They have to be convinced that what they are doing is in fact an improvement on your health. Which is why the surgeon is requesting a psychological evaluation. And the psychologist comes back and says "yeah, he's going to be uncomfortable where he is, he's going to be more improved, better mood, better this, better that" and so forth. So from a totality point of view, it's going to get better after he gets modified.
And let me tell you my mood has improved dramatically since going nullo. I don't miss the baggage. I don't miss the fact that I get into sex with a guy, he expects me to perform in some ways, now he doesn't have that expectation. In fact, quite a few guys find it very arousing that they don't have to have that distraction.
Are there other benefits?
Another thing is, guys who are aroused by my situation are very aroused. I've got some guys who are pursuing me a lot. And they just like this idea, because there's nothing there to be in the way. Face to face fucking is very pleasurable. And when they're doing that I actually wet their stomachs with my fluids. And this one guy, he likes to go down on me. He's a bi guy and he said he does this with his girlfriend so he goes down there and starts licking me. And he just loves that idea. He loves the idea that I have a hairy chest and what is to him a very tiny vagina that he can't fuck but he can lick and he can enjoy being the male role. I've even got a straight guy here in town who likes to fuck me because I don't have any male genitals and he doesn't feel threatened by that.
Are there any downsides?
One of the most obvious cons is I have to sit to pee, or I have to use one of these female urination devices. It's an odd funnel shaped device that you can use if there's only a men's urinal. Also, some times I get urinary tract infections. There's a shorter path to the bladder through what I've got now. So I've got to be very careful and keep it clean. I can't get guy fingering me down there because it's the inside of the urethra so it's sensitive.
Do you ever get "phantom dick" syndrome when you are reaching for it out of habit?
A lot of the nerves are bundled on the base of the penis where most of the sensation comes from. It's not along the length of penis but on the base of the penis is where most of the sensations are. And I wake up in the morning with a feeling that I have a big dick that's erect.
In your experience, what percentage of castrations are done by non-medical professionals? How about penectomies? What are the safety risks for each? Would you say one is more difficult than the other for a layman?
I would above three quarters [by non-medical professionals]. And that number is lower than say twenty years ago. There are not as many today.
Which are not as many?
The amateur cutters. There are a lot of wannabes that are successful that manage to stay below the radar of the authorities because they run into trouble because of their lack of skill. Because if you mess up there are problems there. But if you're very careful in choosing the men you work with so that you have very low risk involved, which is age (you don't do old men), you don't do very overweight men, you don't do men who smoke, who don't take drugs and anything else. If you take these fairly low-risk guys and you do it well, then there won't be any problems. Once these guys get castrated, most of them simply become very private and they don't brag about things. They sort of withdraw from pursuing anything else because they've reached their goal.
So is the the percentage of amateur cutters lower today due to more people with medical training performing castrations?
Yes. They are finding that there is a living in this if they do it among other things.
How about with penectomies? I would imagine (and hope!) there's fewer amateurs performing these.
Almost all of them are done by medical professionals. That's tricky, yeah. More tricky. It's sort of major surgery and it's been done by some amateurs. They're fairly good with their surgical techniques. I was actually at one and the guy did a fairly good job but it took a long time and it was a very involved, very slow process. I've heard of only three or four done by cutters in the past and they have left active participation in this.
When you do a penectomy you have to re-route the urethra, yes?
Yes, what I did with this is I knew where I was going with this in 1999 and I contacted my urologist in Hollywood [Florida], an old guy who was just about to retire and I talked to him very carefully and said "in the future I'm going to want the penis removed". And he said "OK, we can do a urethral relocation in the base of the penis".
So how do things like ejaculation and urination work when you've rerouted the urethra and no longer use the penis for them?
With ejaculation, just before you reach the peak, all the fluid is there at the base of the penis, and right before orgasm happens it's the urethra that acts like a rail gun and expels the semen. So when you don't use the penis, there's no force behind it. It just flows out.
What happens to the body parts after removal?
Quite a few [cutters] collect them. They preserve them, they put them in jars. One guy embedded his in plastic and now it's an ornament somewhere. This typically happens when you're in a master/slave dominant/submissive relationship and the submissive gives up his balls to his partner for keepsake. And then you get into this S&M thing where the dominant partner controls and regulates the libido of the submissive. Especially if the submissive is on say androgel where the turnaround time from full sexiness to limp dick is about on the order of a week. The reaction time for the transdermal is very fast. Whereas the injections wear off after two to three weeks. The half life of the testosterone I'm taking is eight days.
You mentioned consumption of body parts in another interview. Is that for real?
It is for real, yes. Some guys do that. Think about the Testy Festy, where they go there and every year there they have concentration of people who are into eating sheep and bull nuts and rocky mountain oysters. I know a few cutters that don't charge anything for their work, the only charge they have is that they get the nuts afterwards.
Is this something that you've tasted?
Yes, as a matter of fact they do taste a little like chicken. Actually I would have to say they taste as much like chicken as they do roast pork. But it all depends on how you cook them. If you cook them in salted butter then they might be saltier than they might otherwise be.
How do you like them cooked?
I went to a cutter's place and he was having an event where he cut a number of guys and I was assisting him there. And what I did is I cooked them up in some butter with some mushrooms. Quite good with a nice red merlot wine.
Cheers to that, Gelding.
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:21 PM Author: Electric low-t set christ will someone tech ZZZ how to indent numbered paragraphs in a complaint. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279050) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:23 PM Author: Electric low-t set https://i.imgur.com/5PZ0YGV.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279061) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:24 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Yikes, he should've previewed that correspondence with me at least, if not the entirety of xo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279067) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:27 PM Author: cerebral alcoholic kitty stock car you know what war-torn country has a low COL and is VERY favorable to incoming debtors? UKRAINE! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279091) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:30 PM Author: Exhilarant jade laser beams lol so RK is a piece of shit too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279104) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:39 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Nah, just pro se. This is what my emails to ZZZ are like before AAtp helps me tone them down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279154) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:43 PM Author: Exhilarant jade laser beams idk "im gonna film your mom while i seize her car an upload it to youtube" is something id expect to see a pumo to post here at 3AM in response to someone who disagrees with them on which type of pizza is best, pretty unhinged stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279174) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:46 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Yeah it probably would've been best to delete that sentence before sending. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279190) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:49 PM Author: offensive gas station it's ok richard, shitigators and headhunters don't have feelings (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279204) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:50 PM Author: Sooty Laughsome Tattoo Its 10000% fair to send a threatening email when someone is engaged in a fraudulent transfer after you got a 3.6 mm judgement. (and likely right before they declare bankruptcy). Filing a lawsuit over it? What a bunch of losers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279207) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 11:29 PM Author: Adventurous Tank yes but the part about YouTube was unnecessary. that's the kind of shit you put in the first draft then come back to it two hours later after you punch a wall and delete. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45282019) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 11:30 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner That's one way. But I find it better to preview stuff with AAtp here before sending (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45282028) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 2:03 PM Author: citrine 180 spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45284644) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 11:20 PM Author: Shimmering Adulterous Hospital Becky 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45281966) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 6:49 PM Author: Hyperventilating Den Partner From what I have gathered RK is by far the worst person here and EJ is the biggest victim. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45280249) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:55 PM Author: balding corner depressive why don't the names match? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279228) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:05 PM Author: hairless razzle hairy legs garrison Who's K? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279278) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:08 PM Author: histrionic swollen coffee pot Reminded me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQRvfWvdt8&ab_channel=artty77 |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:26 PM Author: Sooty Laughsome Tattoo lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279082) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:29 PM Author: Exhilarant jade laser beams lol is he claiming the court judgment is a "consumer debt"?
this county has the worst court records search function yet btw |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:30 PM Author: beady-eyed rigpig crackhouse ZZZ: wait, consumer debt is a defined term? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279108) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:32 PM Author: Sooty Laughsome Tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279119) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:33 PM Author: Sepia exciting hell messiness Amychua county would be much more professional and put together (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279121) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:35 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner EJ is a "consumer" because he buys things, and he owes RK $3.6M, which is a "debt." "Consumer debt" QED.
What's the problem Poindexter? |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:36 PM Author: cracking idiot It converts to consumer debt when the judgment creditor bizarrely attacks the alleged debtor’s mom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279136) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:36 PM Author: Electric low-t set still lets you pull for free, which a lot of places dont (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279138) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:47 PM Author: Sooty Laughsome Tattoo How is this communication illegal? Telling someone that they are engaging in a fraudulent transfer...
https://ibb.co/hKDVyF0 |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:53 PM Author: cracking idiot So now it’s ok to cause intense emotional distress to someone’s family members? Jfc libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279221) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:56 PM Author: Sooty Laughsome Tattoo Yes it is. You need to cause intense emotional distress on people fraudulently transferring assets around. Just make sure the means by which you do so aren't "outrageous" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279231) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:01 PM Author: Adventurous Tank ???? proof the family member read the emails? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279266) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:48 PM Author: Yapping reading party Didn't the TX action relate to J stealing K's clients? So what's all this about a loan and promissory note? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279197) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:52 PM Author: Exhilarant jade laser beams iirc RK gave EJ a "bonus" in a form of a forgivable loan (lol) and also extended another loan for living expenses in Hong Kong, which ended up being rolled into the $3.6 million judgment (although a much smaller part of it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279215) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 6:24 PM Author: Yapping reading party interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45280095) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:52 PM Author: bronze stimulating sandwich That’s a dickhead email by RK. Hope ZZZ gets justice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279211) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 3:54 PM Author: Sepia exciting hell messiness Spaceporn here. I think this can be settled by RK getting to place richard clock as a partner at Jones Day Taipei.
Everyone take further communications offline |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:00 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279256) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:02 PM Author: Adventurous Tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279267) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:07 PM Author: cracking idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279285) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:14 PM Author: Exhilarant jade laser beams RK, email me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279315) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:05 PM Author: Adventurous Tank can someone analyze this new complaint and the purpose of it? will it somehow stop RK from collecting in the other jurisdiction? weigh in please - smart lawyers only. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279279) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:08 PM Author: cracking idiot you saw what ZZZ did to TSINAH’s $10K “debt”? *POOF* Same thing will happen here |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:30 PM Author: Adventurous Tank 10k =/= $3.6m (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279389) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:15 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Correct. Under the "reserved powers" of the 10th Amendment, filing a state court action between the same parties stays any similar federal court action. This is the "abstention doctrine" set out in Ex Parte Young.
ZZZ and RT weaving inescapable webs. |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:17 PM Author: Electric low-t set ZZZ can now invoke Colorado River abstention in the federal action to get the judgment vacated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279335) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:20 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Correct, but he needs to "domesticate" the Florida action first of course. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279346) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:22 PM Author: Brindle Community Account when i was a new lawyer i'd come up with retarded, convoluted legal theories and think i'd come up with some real innovative shit and the partner i was working with would hear me out for 30 seconds and go "yeah, no we aren't going to argue that"
reminds me of what ZZZ is doing in his various xo-related cases. |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 1:29 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner I once wrote a LENGTHY memo to a senior partner about how all of the federal appellate courts were interpreting Rule 23 completely wrong. I triumphantly emailed it to all the partners on the case at about 10 pm and never received any reply. Probably cost the client $15k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45284449) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:31 PM Author: Adventurous Tank not cool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279391) |
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Date: October 25th, 2022 3:11 PM Author: tripping indian lodge "I Still Unload": This Man Is a "Nullo" Who Removed His Penis and Balls 559.91K
Simon Davis
10/16/14 11:10AM
Filed to: INTERVIEWS
In 1994, a South Florida man who goes by the name Gelding was surgically castrated. In 2011, he had his penis removed as well. He's a "nullo": A cisgender man who removes his external genitalia completely as a form of body modification, and he recently agreed to answer our questions—from "why?" to "what do balls taste like?"
Gelding is a nudist and describes himself as a submissive bear. Apart from his desire to use a pseudonym, he let it all hang out (so to speak) when I reached out to him and graciously answered every question I had.
Is nullo your preferred term to describe yourself and others like you who are castrated and have removed their penis?
Yes, the reason that we use that it is not transgender. It's simply nullification of what you've got. A friend of mine Mack in San Francisco likes to use the term "mascunull", because I remain as masculine as they come with fur and so forth. But I no longer have the parts.
What are some misconceptions people have about nullos?
A few men don't know their own physiology to the point where they think if they lose their balls they can't come any more. And that's false. If you look at the physiology you see that the fluids are made by the seminal vesicles and the prostate. Very little of the fluid and the content is produced in the testes. I still unload.
But the active ingredient for impregnating someone isn't there.
Right.
Do you get a lot of people who think you're trying to become a woman?
Absolutely. And it's mostly the medical profession who sees the sexes as either male or female. And anyone who wants to alter any part of that is in some way suffering from gender dysphoria. They don't like themselves for some reason and they want to change gender. And that's absolutely false.
It's not a dysphoria. I see it in the positive way of working toward something, rather than away from something. Many of the guys instead of putting a negative feel on it see it as a positive. Being castrated is a positive to them. Rather than removing something that they dislike, they are moving in the direction that they want. I went through a long set of psychological evaluation sessions with a psychologist here in town, because that was necessary in order to have the penis removed.
You've previously discussed your 1994 castration. However, I didn't find anything on your penis removal in 2011. Can you talk about that?
I knew I was uncomfortable in having frankly large male parts. I would quite often sit on my own balls because they were loose unless I wore something tight and held them in I would sit on them and squash them. That got me into trouble playing soccer in college when they forced us to wear these hard plastic cups. What happened was I fell on a guy's upright knee with the weight of another player behind me, so two of us fell on the knee. The knee happened to hit the middle of the plastic cup and imploded and tore me up. I was severely injured.
The doctor saved everything but over a period of time the nerves gave me some problems and I had aches in my testicles all the time. When I was in the military service they tried doing a varicose vein removal but that didn't help, it just made matters worse. They thought I was suffering from varicose veins. So after leaving the service I had them removed. And that removed that little problem but I still had the nerve sensations in the penis which woke me up at night. So I could get erect, but it was painful.
So I talked with my urologist and he said the only treatment for that was to make it numb, which is very dangerous because if you make something like that numb then you don't know if it's infected for some reason. Or remove it, but to do that he needs to cover his ass and asked for a psychological evaluation. And my own doctor is a professor at Nova Southeastern University here in. She is the most brilliant doctor I've ever met. So, I asked her about this problem and she was very forthright and said "well, we'll have to treat you". She didn't consider it something that was wrong with me, she said "we have to investigate." I went to see a psychiatrist and he spent a good 90 minutes with me and said "yes, I have just the person that can work with you." So the psychologist did a battery of personality tests and said "you're perfectly fine, your only problem is that you've got these physical problems which work on your nerves." And I said "yeah." And he said "it also works with your personality" because I'm a gay submissive and I always have been and it wasn't working right. So in order to to fix it I worked toward a goal of having things removed. And that was it. I'm working in a positive way to solve my own personal problem.
But was castration something you were contemplating prior to the injury?
Yes. For whatever reason I was always embarrassed by the size of what I had. It didn't fit my personality.
Do you remember when you the fantasy to remove your testicles first occurred?
I had a baby face in high school, there was one of these bullies and he said "you have a man's equipment but you're still a boy" and he squeezed my balls in the shower. He was on the football team, I was on the soccer team showering together and he said "you shouldn't have such big equipment" so he squeezed my balls and at that point it was just a fantasy for me. So how about getting rid of them for some reason?
When did it go from fantasy to aspiration?
It became a fetish thing where I would do sort of more self destructive things with them like putting rubber bands around them and needles through the balls and whatnot. It's a progression which a lot of guys go through. It's something that works on them and they say "Well, how about if we just have them off? Then I won't be bothered by this constant urge to hurt them". And this is where a psychologist gets into the dysphoria. It's very difficult to distinguish whether it's a dislike for something or instead you're working towards something else. I always thought when I was on the beach—I was also on the swim team—and we had Speedos, it was difficult to pack everything in frankly. I would be embarrassed and everybody was looking and here I am and I've got the biggest package and I'm not the biggest guy and I got a whole lot of looks from everybody.
I had a big dick, it got damaged and I was a bottom. I didn't want to use it, I got pushed into using it, I had to take all sorts of medications and was tired of being somebody else's tool.
Broadly speaking, how can someone know that being a nullo is something they actually want to go through with as opposed to something they fantasize about?
That's something really for a psychologist to answer, but in talking to all the guys that I've been talking with, they try to come up with all sorts of different rationalizations to justify it. In my case, my medical situation really didn't justify it because I was just uncomfortable with what I had. It wasn't medically necessary. But I felt that I would be much more comfortable having the issues of having the sensation but not being able to use it well. It was something like a guy having a useless appendage and it's something he has to carry around, and it becomes baggage after a while.
If someone starts/botches the process on their own, what would you recommend they do? Should people use a cover story to avoid getting in trouble?
No. Go to the emergency room. Today, they have been exposed to a lot more of the literature out there than they were 20 years ago. They're not going to be institutionalized. I mean years ago they used to institutionalize guys that were gay.
How would you say the breakdown is between gay and straight men for nullos?
I would have to say it's mostly gays. I don't know of a straight guy who became a nullo.
You had said in a previous interview that for castrations it's about a two to one for gay to straight men that decide to do it.
I've heard of a couple of straight guys who decided that they were making too many babies so they had their balls off so they could take testosterone and continue. I know quite a few bodybuilders both gay and straight whose testes have shrunk because of the steroids they are taking which are bad for their health. So they got castrated and now they're on medically injected testosterone which is good for them. It's not as harmful as oral steroids are or some of the other shit that they're pumping into themselves.
How would you recommend people do their penectomy and castration?
In the last couple of years, my friend Mack from San Francisco ran into Dr. Crane from Brownstein & Crane and he met him, and I don't know how the two of them had the discussion, and then I had a phone interview with Dr. Crane and I explained my situation with him and now Dr. Crane is no longer doing just transgender type of procedures but [also] genital modifications.
So in a way, you educated him.
The protocol that the doctors use for transgender people is called the Harry Benjamin protocol. So for example Dr. Reed in Miami, before you go to his clinic you have to take female hormones for six months and show some development of breasts and whatnot, some feminine characteristics before he will deal with you. And why do that when you simply want to get the genitals removed?
If anything, wouldn't additional testosterone be what you'd need after castration?
Men who get castrated, they do get depressed if they don't start fairly right away on testosterone. Because the falling hormone causes hot flashes first of all, and then the loss of libido. You lose all interest in sex and everything else.
Are there any changes that occur to the body as a result?
Body changes are minimal really. If you lose your balls, you won't lose all your hair.
What about voice? Is that a myth?
Voice doesn't change, no. The larynx is a hard tissue, and the voice box and everything else is a hard tissue. But the timbre of your voice is a factor of the larynx. I sang in the college choir, I know about these things.
One thing I noticed while reading testimonials is that many people seem to try their hand at castration and penectomy but then go to the doctor only if it goes wrong. How much of this would you say is due to the medical profession's reluctance to remove healthy body parts and how much is due to people's general fear of discussing this type of thing with their doctor or therapist?
You know about the Hippocratic oath right? "First do no harm". They have to be convinced that what they are doing is in fact an improvement on your health. Which is why the surgeon is requesting a psychological evaluation. And the psychologist comes back and says "yeah, he's going to be uncomfortable where he is, he's going to be more improved, better mood, better this, better that" and so forth. So from a totality point of view, it's going to get better after he gets modified.
And let me tell you my mood has improved dramatically since going nullo. I don't miss the baggage. I don't miss the fact that I get into sex with a guy, he expects me to perform in some ways, now he doesn't have that expectation. In fact, quite a few guys find it very arousing that they don't have to have that distraction.
Are there other benefits?
Another thing is, guys who are aroused by my situation are very aroused. I've got some guys who are pursuing me a lot. And they just like this idea, because there's nothing there to be in the way. Face to face fucking is very pleasurable. And when they're doing that I actually wet their stomachs with my fluids. And this one guy, he likes to go down on me. He's a bi guy and he said he does this with his girlfriend so he goes down there and starts licking me. And he just loves that idea. He loves the idea that I have a hairy chest and what is to him a very tiny vagina that he can't fuck but he can lick and he can enjoy being the male role. I've even got a straight guy here in town who likes to fuck me because I don't have any male genitals and he doesn't feel threatened by that.
Are there any downsides?
One of the most obvious cons is I have to sit to pee, or I have to use one of these female urination devices. It's an odd funnel shaped device that you can use if there's only a men's urinal. Also, some times I get urinary tract infections. There's a shorter path to the bladder through what I've got now. So I've got to be very careful and keep it clean. I can't get guy fingering me down there because it's the inside of the urethra so it's sensitive.
Do you ever get "phantom dick" syndrome when you are reaching for it out of habit?
A lot of the nerves are bundled on the base of the penis where most of the sensation comes from. It's not along the length of penis but on the base of the penis is where most of the sensations are. And I wake up in the morning with a feeling that I have a big dick that's erect.
In your experience, what percentage of castrations are done by non-medical professionals? How about penectomies? What are the safety risks for each? Would you say one is more difficult than the other for a layman?
I would above three quarters [by non-medical professionals]. And that number is lower than say twenty years ago. There are not as many today.
Which are not as many?
The amateur cutters. There are a lot of wannabes that are successful that manage to stay below the radar of the authorities because they run into trouble because of their lack of skill. Because if you mess up there are problems there. But if you're very careful in choosing the men you work with so that you have very low risk involved, which is age (you don't do old men), you don't do very overweight men, you don't do men who smoke, who don't take drugs and anything else. If you take these fairly low-risk guys and you do it well, then there won't be any problems. Once these guys get castrated, most of them simply become very private and they don't brag about things. They sort of withdraw from pursuing anything else because they've reached their goal.
So is the the percentage of amateur cutters lower today due to more people with medical training performing castrations?
Yes. They are finding that there is a living in this if they do it among other things.
How about with penectomies? I would imagine (and hope!) there's fewer amateurs performing these.
Almost all of them are done by medical professionals. That's tricky, yeah. More tricky. It's sort of major surgery and it's been done by some amateurs. They're fairly good with their surgical techniques. I was actually at one and the guy did a fairly good job but it took a long time and it was a very involved, very slow process. I've heard of only three or four done by cutters in the past and they have left active participation in this.
When you do a penectomy you have to re-route the urethra, yes?
Yes, what I did with this is I knew where I was going with this in 1999 and I contacted my urologist in Hollywood [Florida], an old guy who was just about to retire and I talked to him very carefully and said "in the future I'm going to want the penis removed". And he said "OK, we can do a urethral relocation in the base of the penis".
So how do things like ejaculation and urination work when you've rerouted the urethra and no longer use the penis for them?
With ejaculation, just before you reach the peak, all the fluid is there at the base of the penis, and right before orgasm happens it's the urethra that acts like a rail gun and expels the semen. So when you don't use the penis, there's no force behind it. It just flows out.
What happens to the body parts after removal?
Quite a few [cutters] collect them. They preserve them, they put them in jars. One guy embedded his in plastic and now it's an ornament somewhere. This typically happens when you're in a master/slave dominant/submissive relationship and the submissive gives up his balls to his partner for keepsake. And then you get into this S&M thing where the dominant partner controls and regulates the libido of the submissive. Especially if the submissive is on say androgel where the turnaround time from full sexiness to limp dick is about on the order of a week. The reaction time for the transdermal is very fast. Whereas the injections wear off after two to three weeks. The half life of the testosterone I'm taking is eight days.
You mentioned consumption of body parts in another interview. Is that for real?
It is for real, yes. Some guys do that. Think about the Testy Festy, where they go there and every year there they have concentration of people who are into eating sheep and bull nuts and rocky mountain oysters. I know a few cutters that don't charge anything for their work, the only charge they have is that they get the nuts afterwards.
Is this something that you've tasted?
Yes, as a matter of fact they do taste a little like chicken. Actually I would have to say they taste as much like chicken as they do roast pork. But it all depends on how you cook them. If you cook them in salted butter then they might be saltier than they might otherwise be.
How do you like them cooked?
I went to a cutter's place and he was having an event where he cut a number of guys and I was assisting him there. And what I did is I cooked them up in some butter with some mushrooms. Quite good with a nice red merlot wine.
Cheers to that, Gelding.
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:07 PM Author: cracking idiot Evan’s father was a ship builder who built large yachts for some of the wealthier people in the world and Evan travelled in those circles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279283) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:09 PM Author: Brindle Community Account i tried for two seconds to find the docket but gave up bc of the SPS search function.
is EJ claiming that RK violated the debt collection law by contacting EJ to see about the $3.5 million judgment against him that recently popped up? |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:10 PM Author: cracking idiot If a creditor sends a nasty email trying to collect a debt, the debt is automatically wiped out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279302) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:12 PM Author: Brindle Community Account 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279312) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:14 PM Author: Electric low-t set *only if it's sent to the debtor's attorney (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279316) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:21 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Or to his "attorney-in-fact" (so long as the certification was notarized) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279350) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:26 PM Author: cracking idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279374) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 6:24 PM Author: citrine 180 spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45280098) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 4:32 PM Author: Adventurous Tank it sounds like it and says he's looking for at least $3000. or at least I thought I read that somewhere under damages. but yeah that webpage is absolute trash so I'm not going back to the docket ever again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279397) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 6:02 PM Author: Appetizing school elastic band can a shitmod plz explain to me why a known poaster's initials can be used in titles and discussed on board? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45279990) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 6:17 PM Author: Yapping reading party correct obama is off limits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45280077) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 7:02 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner (ZZZ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45280329) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 6:59 PM Author: offensive gas station filing this action was flagrant tortious interference with RK's collection efforts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45280309) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 7:14 PM Author: Hyperventilating Den Partner ZZZ's Amended Complaint is arguing that the full faith and credit clause is unconstitutional. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45280398) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 8:16 PM Author: cracking idiot so crazy it just might work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45280762) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 10:33 PM Author: aromatic masturbator So EJ is a resident of Alachua County? Does this mean that the only reason ZZZ filed the EPAH case in Monroe County was because he was hoping that nobody would notice that he used to clerk for the judges there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45281709) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 10:39 PM Author: learning disabled theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45281747) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 11:23 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner "So EJ is a resident of Alachua County?"
Wait does it say that somewhere? |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 10:41 PM Author: balding corner depressive how is this even real at this point? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45281766) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 11:07 PM Author: balding corner depressive Is the "fraudulent transfers" thing a real thing or is he flaming? is RK's argument criminal or civil? anyone know. too lazy to read the complaint. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45281902) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 11:17 PM Author: Hyperventilating Den Partner You don't know what fraudulent transfers are? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45281952) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 11:42 PM Author: startled lodge See...
Uniform Fraudulent Transfer Act
Uniform Voidable Transactions Act
I've had very good experience hunting down debtors under fraudulent transfer theories. |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 9:02 AM Author: milky aggressive pisswyrm rehab It is a complete pain in the ass. There are lawyers that specialize in judgment collection, seems worse than ID. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45283085) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 9:22 AM Author: startled lodge Fraudulent transfer work was probably some of the highest value work I did on an hourly basis, and I wasn't nagged by some insurance company with it's guidelines and shitrates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45283130) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 11:29 PM Author: Adventurous Tank what is the chance of success on this?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45282020) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 11:31 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner I've done the maths: It's 0.0% after RK removes to fed court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45282035) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 11:36 PM Author: Adventurous Tank surely its higher than 0.0% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45282064) |
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Date: October 4th, 2022 11:56 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Nah, it's zero. Fed court will find insufficient minimum contacts ===> dismissal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45282149) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 8:05 AM Author: Hyperventilating Den Partner Diversity or federal question? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45282996) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 8:18 AM Author: Brindle Community Account We aren’t doing all your work for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45283006) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 12:47 PM Author: Hyperventilating Den Partner So RK isn't going to state the basis of jurisdiction in his notice of removal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45284205) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 12:49 PM Author: Brindle Community Account i'm sure you'll see when he files it and serves you with it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45284211) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 12:51 PM Author: Hyperventilating Den Partner That's not scholarship! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45284221) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 12:53 PM Author: Adventurous Tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45284227) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 1:30 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Both. He’s got your buddy wrapped up in a web. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45284454) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 12:40 AM Author: glassy plaza Jesus, the Florida Consumer Collections Practices Act. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45282325) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 3:15 PM Author: cracking idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45285054) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 12:53 PM Author: Adventurous Tank Florida is a joke. It needs to be burned to the ground. Or blown to the ground (to the extent not done so already). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45284230) |
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Date: October 5th, 2022 1:36 PM Author: Hyperventilating Den Partner Thank you for the contribution KTJ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45284483) |
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Date: October 13th, 2022 12:25 PM Author: Adventurous Tank eat shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45325482) |
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Date: October 19th, 2022 10:38 PM Author: Adventurous Tank any updates? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45359926) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 1:48 PM Author: Magical indirect expression EPAH, what do you think the chances of this being awarded are?
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/sanctions-sought-against-dla-piper-recruiter-trade-secrets-case-2022-10-18/ |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 1:59 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Very low. I predict the court will only issue a "warning" to RT (for the fifth time in this single case) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45362916) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 1:59 PM Author: balding corner depressive LJL at law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45362921) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 1:59 PM Author: balding corner depressive LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45362920) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:03 PM Author: Chestnut infuriating national foreskin Tauler on Tuesday told Reuters he planned to appeal the $3.6 million judgment, calling the damages calculation "out of bounds." Tauler described the fee request from MWK as a "desperate" plaintiffs' attempt for payment.
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:04 PM Author: balding corner depressive the plaintiff that just won a $3.6m judgment is desperate? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45362949) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:05 PM Author: Chestnut infuriating national foreskin It reeks of desperation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45362956) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:07 PM Author: Hyperventilating Den Partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45362966) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:10 PM Author: balding corner depressive I don't think he meant what you think he did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45362987) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:06 PM Author: Hyperventilating Den Partner In a court filing on Monday, Tauler said his advocacy of counterclaims against MWK on behalf of Jowers "does not amount to 'bad faith' and vexatious litigation. The fact is, those text messages were unsolicited and constituted unlawful debt collection practices." Tauler asked Pitman to deny MWK's request for fees, calling it "defective," or award a "substantially" reduced amount. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45362965) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:13 PM Author: Yapping reading party RT: famous, in reuters article EPAH: not |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:18 PM Author: Electric low-t set "A recruiting company that won a $3.6 million judgment in an employment trade secrets dispute last month has asked a U.S. judge in Texas to sanction DLA Piper and another law firm"
ANOTHER LAW FIRM |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:12 PM Author: histrionic swollen coffee pot Can someone fill me in on who everyone is. I watched the youtube video on the dick pills so I know who ZZZ is. I don't see any reference to EPAH according to the initials. WTF is going on? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363001) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:14 PM Author: Yapping reading party epah is the homosexual one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363009) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:14 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner "I watched the youtube video on the dick pills so I know who ZZZ is."
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:17 PM Author: histrionic swollen coffee pot Yeah I fucked that one up. You're doing good work for those shop owning bros. My dad owned a small shop and I'd be pissed if he got bullied like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363026) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:18 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner ty pumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363034) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:19 PM Author: Hot locale lol fuck your dad, faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363040) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:21 PM Author: Yapping reading party you both have to go back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363050) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:23 PM Author: histrionic swollen coffee pot Dad was German and sold hardware supplies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363059) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:16 PM Author: Exhilarant jade laser beams wait who do you think ZZZ is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363018) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:17 PM Author: histrionic swollen coffee pot I thought ZZZ was RT but reading the complaint it sounds like he isn't. RT is RT. Who is ZZZ, Kevin, and Evan (hopefully not our "supermarket" friend)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363023) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:17 PM Author: Exhilarant jade laser beams EJ is the guy suing EPAH. ZZZ is his attorney. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363028) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:18 PM Author: histrionic swollen coffee pot What is EJ suing EPAH for? Does this have ANYTHING to do with RT/the dick pills? I try not to get involved in these xo personal feuds but there's been too much chatter on the bort about this so I feel obligated at this point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363036) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:20 PM Author: balding corner depressive allegedly EPAH meddled in the RT/EJ thing in TX and caused a problem with EJ getting his preferred counsel. EJ is a resident of FL so sued EPAH in FL over it.
IMO the lawsuit has 0 chance of success. |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:22 PM Author: histrionic swollen coffee pot So EJ is Evan and ZZZ is his attorney. Is ZZZ Kevin? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363052) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:23 PM Author: Electric low-t set Kevin = TSINAH who ZZZ reps in other litigations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363057) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:24 PM Author: histrionic swollen coffee pot Lol didn't know this involved TSINAH. JFC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363066) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:26 PM Author: balding corner depressive doesn't directly involve TSINAH but TSINAH is generally involved with this cast of characters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363076) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:28 PM Author: histrionic swollen coffee pot tyty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363097) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:23 PM Author: balding corner depressive no he's not Kevin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363058) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:22 PM Author: Electric low-t set EJ is a Defendant in another action represented by RT. EJ is claimign that EPAH "tortiously interfered" with their attorney-client relationship by seeking to prevent RT's admission to Texas bar. The basis of the claim is a public brief EPAH had filed that a party cited in a letter to the admissions committee. RT eventually got admitted. EJ claims he needed RT in that action because of his specialized knowledge. EJ just lost a 3.6 million judgment in that action. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363053) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:24 PM Author: balding corner depressive "EJ claims he needed RT in that action because of his specialized knowledge. EJ just lost a 3.6 million judgment in that action."
love how you wrote this |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:30 PM Author: Exhilarant jade laser beams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363112) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:19 PM Author: balding corner depressive it would be hilarious it were our supermarket friend but no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363041) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:17 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner ZZZ is the gay guy on the couch. Epah is the alpha guy in the chair with many prestigious lawyer books lining his shelves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363029) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:17 PM Author: Mewling Insanely Creepy Lettuce can anyone sum up the background on this? TIA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363024) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:18 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner There are already over a dozen summary threads about this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363035) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:21 PM Author: balding corner depressive cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363047) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:21 PM Author: balding corner depressive http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5188986&mc=228&forum_id=2#45144614 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363048) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:26 PM Author: Mewling Insanely Creepy Lettuce lol this is separate from the dick pills case? I'm so confused how is this real (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363081) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:28 PM Author: histrionic swollen coffee pot The bort is really evolving (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363092) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:28 PM Author: balding corner depressive there's like 4 different actions:
dick pill case
EPAH suing on behalf of dick pill buyers
Recruiter sued other Recruiter (EPAH roped into the drama)
Recruiter sues EPAH in FL
Recruiter sues former recruiter in FL because other Recruiter sent e-mails he deemed threatening
EDIT: 5 |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:29 PM Author: balding corner depressive This EPAH lawsuit drama spans more of the country and more jurisdictions than when two big companies sue each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363106) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:36 PM Author: cracking idiot They need to consolidate these in a single rural Florida court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363137) |
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Date: October 20th, 2022 2:39 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner cr. Roundup litigation btfu (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45363156) |
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Date: October 25th, 2022 2:51 PM Author: balding corner depressive any updates on this matter? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45387492) |
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Date: October 25th, 2022 2:54 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Matter remains dormant. I assume RK will remove, and then have this bullshit dismissed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45387508) |
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Date: October 25th, 2022 2:56 PM Author: Brindle Community Account this proves FL's pj over u (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45387516) |
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Date: October 25th, 2022 2:57 PM Author: balding corner depressive sanctions in ZZZ's future? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45387521) |
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Date: October 25th, 2022 3:08 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner Not on this one probably, although I doubt RK is a debt collector under the florida FDCPA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45387556) |
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Date: October 31st, 2022 9:55 PM Author: balding corner depressive very creative interpretations of the law huh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45416895) |
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Date: November 1st, 2022 3:43 PM Author: Adventurous Tank where are we on this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45419996) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2022 9:45 PM Author: balding corner depressive EPAH, with your case dead as a doornail right now you should devote threads to your analysis of the more active litigations, like aren't there newly filed responses to the sanctions motion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45433713) |
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Date: November 19th, 2022 11:30 AM Author: Adventurous Tank yeah what's going on with this case, anyone know? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45516844) |
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Date: November 21st, 2022 3:20 PM Author: Crimson ticket booth gunner They haven’t tried to serve RK. They’re trying the old “since he knows about the case, for all intensive purposes it’s the same as if he’d been served with the summons.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45526211) |
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Date: November 26th, 2022 5:16 PM Author: Magical indirect expression lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5205572&forum_id=2#45547788) |