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Alt war of 1812 where Napoleon heads to America instead of 100 Days

A chill wind was blowing off the Atlantic and into Napoleon'...
tan sick office
  10/07/22
Almost delightfully cheesy, but the foreshadowing at the end...
Floppy aqua spot
  10/07/22
Maybe it's Talleyrand.
tan sick office
  10/07/22
While wiki-diving I found this map of the percentage of prie...
Floppy aqua spot
  10/07/22
Funny how enduring these things can be.
tan sick office
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Nous sommes gars de Bretagne, Fidèles au Roi, (Au Ro...
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Chapter II. Napoleon didn't waste any time in making his...
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"You see Governor, General Jackson has discovered the k...
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"Napoleon felt energized as he walked down Broadway in ...
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He was one of history's most euthymic people and he just esc...
tan sick office
  10/07/22
this is actually an interesting question - when did cities/s...
Heady rehab
  10/07/22
Good question. Worth checking Balzac. I don't think it's tha...
tan sick office
  10/07/22
not nyc in 1812, to a guy who had seen and experienced the c...
cerebral sapphire business firm
  10/27/22
Napoleon almost always felt energized, though!
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  10/27/22
I must say, this subthread reminds me of a Word comment edit...
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Chestnut Trip Black Woman
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Fuck yes the Andrew Jackson(best POTUS)/Napoleon dark allian...
henna dilemma
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180. Incredibly CR response. The concept I have here is t...
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Good to see you poasting with us, Harry Turtledove.
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He really went/was revealed as shitlib with his "Confed...
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Michel Ney did
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Date: October 7th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: tan sick office

A chill wind was blowing off the Atlantic and into Napoleon's face. He had never liked cold weather, even when he was a boy back in Ajaccio on the Mediterranean island of Corsica. It was one of the things he missed about his exile on Elba: the warm sunlight and blue waters. But at least on Elba he had been emperor, if only in name. Here, in America, he was just another man with a dream.

Braced by the cold, Napoleon felt energized as he walked down Broadway in Manhattan. This new world--with its opportunity for anyone to make something of themselves regardless of birth or station--was everything that France wasn't. And it suited him well; after all, hadn't he risen from humble beginnings himself? He could see why Thomas Jefferson spoke so highly of this place; it really was a paradise for those who valued liberty, merit, and opportunity. And, above all else, revenge.

Chapter I

The Indian mildew had ruined the tobacco crop for the third year in a row, and John Barbour was desperate. He had tried switching to indigo, but that market had collapsed, and he wasn't sure how much longer he could keep his head above water. So when Napoleon Bonaparte showed up on his doorstep one cold winter morning, looking for a guide to take him into the French territory of Louisiana, John saw an opportunity.

"Yes, I can take you there," he said. "It'll cost you, though."

"I am aware," Napoleon replied. He had no illusions about his current financial situation; after all, he was essentially penniless. But if this journey could help him achieve his goals, then it would be worth every cent.

They set out the next day, crossing the Hudson River into New Jersey before making their way westward across the state. The going was tough--the roads were little more than rutted paths through the woods, and more than once they had to double back when they lost their way--but finally they reached Pennsylvania. From there it was an easy journey down the Ohio River into Kentucky and then westward again into Tennessee and Arkansas Territory before arriving in Louisiana.

The trip took nearly two months, during which time Napoleon learned a great deal about America from his genial guide. He was fascinated by the country's history--especially its struggle for independence from Britain--and impressed by its natural beauty. He also came to appreciate the Americans' love of liberty and opportunity; it reminded him of his own youthful dreams for France.

Finally, on Christmas Eve 1815, they arrived in New Orleans.

"Merry Christmas, Mr. Barbour," Napoleon said as he clasped the American's hand in farewell. "Thank you for everything."

"Don't mention it," John replied. "Just be careful out there; Louisiana is a dangerous place."

Napoleon nodded and set off down the street, his mind already filled with plans for the future. He'd already spotted the shadowy figure of a man following him, but he wasn't worried. After all, he had faced far worse dangers in his life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294383)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 8:47 AM
Author: Floppy aqua spot

Almost delightfully cheesy, but the foreshadowing at the end nudges it back into the realm of bad taste. It's like sitting on Chekhov's bayonet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294389)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 8:50 AM
Author: tan sick office

Maybe it's Talleyrand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294400)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Floppy aqua spot

While wiki-diving I found this map of the percentage of priests that swore to the Constitution. It also doubles as a map of how cucked each department is, down to the present day.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Carte_des_pr%C3%AAtres_asserment%C3%A9s_en_France_en_1791.svg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294414)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 8:56 AM
Author: tan sick office

Funny how enduring these things can be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294418)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 9:00 AM
Author: Floppy aqua spot

Nous sommes gars de Bretagne,

Fidèles au Roi, (Au Roi!)

Nos aïeux ont fait campagne,

Pour venger le Roi. (Le Roi!)

Et la lande armoricaine

En est rouge encor; dondaine.

Ah, ah, ah! Debout les gars, vive le Roi!

(Ah, ah, ah! Debout les gars, vive le Roi!)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294428)



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Date: October 8th, 2022 1:51 AM
Author: Chestnut Trip Black Woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45298919)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 9:05 AM
Author: tan sick office

Chapter II.

Napoleon didn't waste any time in making his presence known in New Orleans. He went straight to the governor's palace and requested an audience with Governor Claiborne. The request was granted, and Napoleon got right down to business.

"Governor Claiborne," he began, "I have come to Louisiana with a proposition for you."

Claiborne leaned back in his chair and regarded the small man before him carefully. He had heard rumours of this so-called "emperor" who had been exiled to Elba, but he hadn't given them much credence. Now, it seemed, the rumours were true.

"And what would that be?" he asked warily.

"I would like your introduction to General Andrew Jackson," Napoleon replied. "I believe that we could be of assistance to each other."

Claiborne considered this for a moment. He didn't like the idea of getting involved in whatever scheme this man was cooking up, but he knew that it would be unwise to refuse outright. After all, Napoleon Bonaparte was still a force to be reckoned with, even in exile.

"Very well," he said finally. "I will see what I can do."

"I'm sure you understand that time is of the essence," Napoleon said. "The British are already planning their next move, and we must be ready for them."

Claiborne nodded. He didn't like it, but he would play along for now. There was no telling what this man was capable of, and he didn't want to find out the hard way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294437)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 9:07 AM
Author: Floppy aqua spot



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Date: October 14th, 2022 10:47 AM
Author: Cowardly hyperactive giraffe step-uncle's house

"You see Governor, General Jackson has discovered the key to limitless coin. I wish to ally with him.

His covered wagon lots have become the talk of both sides of the Atlantic. Apparently, by simply selling the act of sexual congress to the wagon drivers, he is now the richest man in this territory."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45330205)



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Date: October 14th, 2022 10:49 AM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: December 20th, 2022 9:26 AM
Author: Razzmatazz pink shrine



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Date: October 7th, 2022 9:15 AM
Author: copper elite theater stage

"Yes, I can take you there," he said, beady eyes narrowing. "It'll cost you, though."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294459)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 9:19 AM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: October 7th, 2022 2:20 PM
Author: vengeful grizzly lay



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Date: October 7th, 2022 2:20 PM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:34 AM
Author: impressive becky son of senegal



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Date: October 14th, 2022 10:50 AM
Author: Out-of-control Soul-stirring Home



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Date: October 14th, 2022 2:07 PM
Author: pea-brained shaky striped hyena abode



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Date: October 7th, 2022 9:15 AM
Author: Heady rehab

"Napoleon felt energized as he walked down Broadway in Manhattan"

maybe in 2022 but in 1812 broadway was a wide dirt road with a couple of two story buildings - I doubt anyone would feel energized walking amongst the horse shit and mud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294462)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 9:19 AM
Author: tan sick office

He was one of history's most euthymic people and he just escaped Elba. But maybe Wall St or something? Idk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294473)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 9:23 AM
Author: Heady rehab

this is actually an interesting question - when did cities/streets develop the power to energize people? its an old standard in stories now to have the fresh faced hero arrive on the bustling scene of [insert large/exotic city] but when did that start. maybe this is how dickens described london in GE?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294487)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 9:30 AM
Author: tan sick office

Good question. Worth checking Balzac. I don't think it's that new. Cities are energizing even if crapulent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45294498)



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Date: October 27th, 2022 8:24 AM
Author: cerebral sapphire business firm

not nyc in 1812, to a guy who had seen and experienced the creme de la creme of paris and berlin and so on's fashionable quarters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45395668)



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Date: October 27th, 2022 8:33 AM
Author: tan sick office

Napoleon almost always felt energized, though!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45395680)



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Date: October 27th, 2022 1:35 PM
Author: tan sick office

I must say, this subthread reminds me of a Word comment edit war in an overworked brief. Well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45396905)



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Date: October 7th, 2022 2:19 PM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: October 8th, 2022 1:51 AM
Author: Chestnut Trip Black Woman



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Date: October 8th, 2022 6:00 AM
Author: henna dilemma

Fuck yes the Andrew Jackson(best POTUS)/Napoleon dark alliance is my favorite historical what if

I believe Jackson was a Bonaparte admirer even though he was generally not a fan of what he considered to be a despotic old world regime. He pathologically hated the British though which seems to have been THE underlying motivation behind nearly all his major policy decisions (kill the bank, Seize the land, Destroy the nullifiers)

War of 1812 is such an underrated conflict because it really was America’s piece of the Napoleonic wars. The timing on Battle of New Orleans and the 100 days is quite interesting, the Brit’s had seasoned Peninsular War vets in North America (including I believe some of the 95th rifles) and the outcome resulted in the transfer of at least some of these guys back to Europe to participate in Waterloo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45299202)



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Date: October 8th, 2022 9:22 AM
Author: tan sick office

180. Incredibly CR response.

The concept I have here is that the U.S. splits along proto-Civil War lines in the middle of the War of 1812, but the Confederacy ends up being run by Napoleon and the Union by Andrew Jackson, and they both form an alliance against Britain & the Fifth Coalition forces.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45299482)



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Date: October 12th, 2022 6:07 AM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: October 12th, 2022 6:16 AM
Author: sable state mediation

Good to see you poasting with us, Harry Turtledove.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45318710)



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Date: October 12th, 2022 6:18 AM
Author: tan sick office

He really went/was revealed as shitlib with his "Confederate of Trumpmos" turn. Very sad. But ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45318712)



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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:27 AM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: October 14th, 2022 10:14 AM
Author: exhilarant dysfunction

Michel Ney did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45330011)



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Date: October 14th, 2022 10:15 AM
Author: tan sick office

Obviously there will need to be a plot point when Napoleon is in deep shit during a Southern campaign, only to be saved by a shining paladin at the head of a professionally-drilled militia, "Peter Ney".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45330015)



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Date: October 14th, 2022 2:02 PM
Author: Chestnut Trip Black Woman



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Date: October 17th, 2022 5:59 PM
Author: Cowardly hyperactive giraffe step-uncle's house



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Date: December 20th, 2022 9:21 AM
Author: tan sick office

Just want to wake up and find I've written this whole thing and forgotten about it. Ditto with the battle manga series about the Successor Wars (after Alexander dies).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207565&forum_id=2#45660992)



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Date: October 18th, 2022 8:34 AM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: October 19th, 2022 2:42 AM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: October 19th, 2022 1:06 PM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: October 27th, 2022 8:01 AM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: November 1st, 2022 4:35 PM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 9:32 AM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: December 20th, 2022 8:57 AM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: December 29th, 2022 7:12 PM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: September 21st, 2023 12:18 PM
Author: tan sick office



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Date: October 12th, 2023 5:39 PM
Author: tan sick office



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