it's only black males doing the murdering, so really it's "6% does 60%"
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Date: October 7th, 2022 3:28 PM Author: Khaki Goyim
it's even more extreme than that. it's the age 13-35 cohort of black males that does almost all of the murdering that black males do. so it's really like....2-3% doing 60%, or something completely insane like that
this is why policies like 'stop and frisk' in NYC worked so well: straight up profiling and monitoring the tiny portion of the population who commits almost all of the violent crime *shockingly* leads to great success
even among many "redpilled" people, there's still an unwillingness to admit that there's no "big brained" solution to crime in america other than simply disproportionately targeting young black males with law enforcement resources. the "equality under the law" shit is a non-starter and does not work and will never work. all of this "constitutionalism" garbage needs to go and america needs to start over if we are ever going to become a first-world country again
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Date: October 7th, 2022 4:05 PM Author: Khaki Goyim
i don't think it's quite this simple. the fact of the matter is that it's clearly better for society for law enforcement to not only disproportionately target certain demographics based on statistical inferences, but to not afford all people the same "rights" and benefit of the doubt when it comes to actually meting out punishment
we should not need to "convict" undesirables in a "trial" where the outcome is decided by a "jury" of their "peers." this system just doesn't work. "sketchy black guys" and beaner "eses" hanging and creeping around areas where white people are attempting to live their lives in peace is unacceptable regardless of whether you can pin a "crime" on these guys and convict them in a "jury trial"
this is why i agree with the above poster re: segregation and the consolidation of local power to the point where these sorts of things are determined and decided by men rather than by "law"
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Date: October 7th, 2022 3:59 PM Author: Dashing canary halford
to be fair, the vast majority of people capable of murder either get killed before they turn 35 or are imprisoned until well past 35
and so if we want to make this stat even more extreme, you should subtract the number of black males of this age group who are imprisoned and incapable of committing murder
well, i guess i don't know how many prison murders occur "In 2019, 143 inmates of state and federal prisons in the United States were killed by homicide. This is a significant increase from 2008 levels, when 40 inmates were killed in state or federal prisons in the United States." i assume that's not a significant factor
here are the total numbers of black in prison Black 60,875 38.4%
males make up 93% of the general prison population
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296371) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 4:00 PM Author: Aqua field reading party
I'm guessing you're a polisci shithead and numbers aren't your thing?
Blacks are 12% and do 60%. So blacks commit 60/12 = 5 times as much murder as expected under their proportion of the population. Non-blacks (who are 88% and commit the other 40%) commit 40/88 = 0.45 times as much murder as expected. So the relevant conclusion to draw is that the ratio of black murderousness to non-black murderousness is 5/0.45 = 11.
Your 110-IQ insight that "akshually it's 6% who do 60%" means that for the remainder of the murders, we'd be looking at non-black males (who are 44%) doing the other 40%. So the calculation becomes (60/6)/(40/44) = 11. The same number as before. There is nothing interesting in your comment that black murderers are specifically black MALES, as if anyone didn't know that most murderers are males.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296385) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 4:10 PM Author: Free-loading Wild Nibblets Heaven
look, it's really quite simple.
'black males' is a meaningful category of an IRL thing in the real world. it's not some arbitrary statistical construct. 'black males' are disproportionately inclined to murder.
if you remove 'black males' (a tiny 6% sliver of the general pop), you likely eliminate 60% of murders.
that's all there is to it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296466) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 4:20 PM Author: Aqua field reading party
what is the point of this insight?
as a construct for analyzing demographics, it doesn't tell us anything more than the basic fact that "blacks" are disproportionately inclined to murder. yes of course it's black males rather than blacks in general, just like how latino murderers are latino males rather than latinos in general, etc.
on the other hand, as an "IRL thing in the real world" as you put it... so what? if you've got some brilliant plan by which we can actually, realistically, achieve the "removal" of all black males, I'm all ears, let's hear it.
but yeah, thanks for making the same obvious pointless observation of "it's actually 6%!!" that has been made in countless previous threads, many of which have included poasts in which people try to explain to mathematically challenged midwits like you why your point is stupid:
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5095815&mc=35&forum_id=2#44415024
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296519) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 4:33 PM Author: Aqua field reading party
oh wow so niggers commit a lot of crime and we as a society should really crack down on the nigger problem? that's the news that you came to xoxo to deliver? thanks champ that's really interesting and original. don't think i've seen that observation on this site before.
now why don't you outline some steps by which we can make that happen? hmm, maybe we can start by Voting Republican. that'll do the trick! the GOP will certainly return us to the good ol' days when the negro knew his place. we just need to vote harder.
or maybe we should take matters into our own hands and deal with the problem directly. maybe you should go ask those rednecks who tried to deal with Ahmaud Arbery "jogging" in their neighborhood about how well that worked out for them.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296609) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 4:56 PM Author: Khaki Goyim
it's been a while since i encountered someone so aggressively unintelligent as you
there are several reasons why the distinction pointed out in this thread is salient and useful. off the top of my head:
1. the lower and more precisely you can narrow down this kind of statistic, the more jarring it is, and thus the more likely it is to snap regular people to attention
2. the more precisely you can narrow down who exactly is committing violent crimes, the more focused you can distribute resources to fight violent crime, and the more legitimate these efforts will be seen by the public
3. the more precisely you can narrow down this kind of statistic, the more comfortable regular (white) people will be with reconciling their instincts. your average white female might feel pretty uncomfortable with her "racist" thoughts of "blacks sure do seem like they're kinda just more stupid and violent than everyone else." but if you tell her that the 2-3% of the population who are young black males are committing 60-70% of the violent crime...she's going to feel a lot more comfortable with her instinct to avoid young black males, keep her children away from young black males, and to support efforts to use force to police young black males
all of this stuff is so simple and obvious that any reasonably intelligent person should intuitively "get" it, but you are are apparently too fucking dumb to do so
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296730) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 5:11 PM Author: Aqua field reading party
"1. the lower and more precisely you can narrow down this kind of statistic, the more jarring it is, and thus the more likely it is to snap regular people to attention"
this assumes that your "narrowing" isn't completely nonsensical as has been explained to you ad nauseam. and somehow I doubt you're reaching many "regular people" by poasting this on this site. are you about to launch a 6 Do 60 TV commercial or social media campaign or something? discussion of this is already banned in polite venues.
"2. the more precisely you can narrow down who exactly is committing violent crimes, the more focused you can distribute resources to fight violent crime, and the more legitimate these efforts will be seen by the public"
so your point is that resources should be redistributed from stop-and-frisking white grandmothers to stop-and-frisking urban youths, both of which currently happen at the same rate? pretty sure they're already as "distributed" as they're ever gonna be as far as age and gender. everyone is well aware that criminals are young men, and nobody has a problem with that. you may have noticed that there isn't a massive social movement dedicated to fighting the "systemic ageism and systemic anti-male sexism" in law enforcement.
"but if you tell her that the 2-3% of the population who are young black males are committing 60-70% of the violent crime...she's going to feel a lot more comfortable with her instinct to avoid young black males, keep her children away from young black males, and to support efforts to use force to police young black males"
LMAO
for sure man, just go up to some white shrews and tell them about 13/60, and if they think it's racist nonsense, ask them to consider that it's actually 6/60, or 3/60 depending on which idiotic post in this thread I'm looking at, then she'll be convinced. as we know, white women's political views and voting patterns are determined by rationally analyzing racial crime statistics. we just need to narrow down those numbers a bit more so that Becky will finally grasp the sheer magnitude of the Nigger Question!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296825) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 4:31 PM Author: Free-loading Wild Nibblets Heaven
dude, i'm not sure wtf are you even saying...
the observation is that it is a remarkable thing that 6% of the population commits 60% of the murders.
it's not some kind of BIG BRAIN MATH GENIUS PWN to say 'everyone knows that already! it's OBVIOUS!'
i GET WHAT you are saying, that the nonwhite murder rate is subject to the same 'only nonwhite MALES actually commit the murders' maneuver, which would likewise halve their % as well. but that doesn't make 6 Does 60 any less remarkable.
let's just agree to agree
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296601) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 4:39 PM Author: Aqua field reading party
instead of a ratio of 60/6 = 10, you could choose a population of, say, "black males age 16-35 who have IQ < 80, grew up poor in the inner city, did not have a dad growing up, and had an older sibling who did drugs" and you'd get a significantly higher ratio than 10. this is not remarkable because those same factors increase crime for other races too.
this poast summarized the issue most succintly in my opinion:
Date: April 27th, 2022 6:35 PM
Author: electric tattoo partner
So are you gonna go around saying "50% did 100%" for men and then "25% did 100%" for young men?
No. Who gives a fuck. That's not interesting
13% of the population likely to commit violent crime wrt age and gender did 50%. That's interesting
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5095815&forum_id=2#44415166)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296635) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 4:49 PM Author: Free-loading Wild Nibblets Heaven
QUOTE: "13% of the population likely to commit violent crime wrt age and gender did 50%. That's interesting."
so this is just the original statistic (blacks commit 50% (sic) of the murders) restated again? how is that more interesting than '6 Does 60'?
QUOTE: "this is not remarkable because those same factors increase crime for other races too."
whites from broken homes, etc, do not commit murder at anywhere near the rates of blacks. now we are going into the sophistic statistic game playing weeds...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296690) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 4:54 PM Author: Aqua field reading party
put it this way: why did you settle on a conclusion of "6 Does 60"? why didn't you change 6% (black males) to 3% (young black males) and instead arrive at the even more remarkable conclusion of "3 Does 60"?
does "3 Does 60" strike you as being twice as remarkable as "6 Does 60"? or does it seem a bit specious?
"whites from broken homes, etc, do not commit murder at anywhere near the rates of blacks"
No, but while it's not a perfect analogy, the point is that those factors do increase the murder rate for whites. And they might not increase it as much as they do for blacks, but being male does increase the white murder rate similar to how it does for blacks.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296721) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 5:08 PM Author: Free-loading Wild Nibblets Heaven
yeah, of course you could bring greater and greater degrees of specificity to it -- probably whittle the stat down to 3% does 60% if you accounted for age, IQ, style of dress, etc. that's for the forensic/ police profilers to handle.
but to zoom back out to the macro picture, the most salient factor is always going to be race. always.
that's the issue. there comes a point where slicing and dicing for concomitants becomes ludicrous and you have to face up to reality. blacks on the whole are dysfunctional and not compatible with white civilization. it's not a case of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch. it's the whole racial organism that produces the problem, over and over, everywhere they exist -- in Africa, Haiti, Detroit.
black males -- 6% or whatever -- are just the speartip of the problem. that is the limited point of OP.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45296810) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 6:01 PM Author: Khaki Goyim
there are plenty of reasons why
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&mc=50&forum_id=2#45296730
this is really not complicated stuff. frankly, i (previously?) operate under the assumption that anybody engaging in discussion on topics like this already understands how and why this kind of messaging is useful and important
apparently you really do need to spell this shit out in explicit detail for people to "get it"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45297023) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 6:11 PM Author: Aqua field reading party
you have to be a special kind of autistic/retarded to think that there are people out there who don't buy "13 do 60," but would be deeply impressed by your "messaging" of "6 do 60" and convert to race realism.
as if the reason why people don't accept race realism on the basis of "13 do 60" is because it's just not a sufficiently "jarring" figure, and not because they've been conditioned by the jewish media and education system to think it's a racist lie, or that it's just because poors commit more crimes and blacks are more likely to be poor, or because they just haven't heard of it, etc.
or that when you warn white women that "blacks" are way more likely to rape and murder them, they might misunderstand and think that means black women and elderly black grandfathers or something. like just a truly hilarious level of autism.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45297050) |
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Date: October 7th, 2022 6:29 PM Author: Khaki Goyim
man, i don't often outright flame people on this board. i really don't. most of the time my direct insults to people are at least somewhat playful or a tongue-in-cheek joke
but you are seriously a straight up fucking idiot. i don't think i've ever encountered a single other person on this forum other than spaceporn who is so clueless, obtuse, and incredibly aggressive in their stupidity and ignorance
you really don't see this kind of 'completely missing the point' retardation outside of places like reddit or shitlib twitter. even in this most recent post that i'm replying to, you're missing the point on *every single thought* that you're "addressing." it's surreal and totally bizarre
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5207759&forum_id=2#45297114) |
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