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It’s wild the 90s were so boring the FBI just hunted citizens for sport

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titillating lemon lettuce
  11/22/22
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angry arrogant tank
  11/22/22
that was messed up
bossy alcoholic messiness theater
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soggy swashbuckling stain
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titillating lemon lettuce
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bronze flickering tanning salon chad
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Concupiscible Really Tough Guy
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titillating lemon lettuce
  11/23/22
In October 1989, the ATF claimed that Weaver sold the inform...
titillating lemon lettuce
  11/23/22
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bronze flickering tanning salon chad
  11/23/22
*Gives you a notice for March 20 to appear in court when it'...
titillating lemon lettuce
  11/23/22
Is this case the reason ATF did not have a director for deca...
bronze flickering tanning salon chad
  11/23/22
1. was a nazi 2. refused to surrender deserved it ty
Razzmatazz abnormal den milk
  11/23/22
So the FBI's mandate is to go around and hunt citizens it de...
titillating lemon lettuce
  11/23/22
sure, nasty guys
Razzmatazz abnormal den milk
  11/23/22
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indecent house-broken regret
  11/23/22
tbf if you ran a child sex cult and amassed an illegal arsen...
sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle
  11/23/22
>>>if you ran a child sex cult and amassed an illeg...
titillating lemon lettuce
  11/23/22
the guy at issue killed self (for no reason at all) before t...
sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle
  11/23/22
The ATF showed up and literally started shooting at the hous...
titillating lemon lettuce
  11/23/22
At numerous points they had a ceasefire and had Koresh on th...
sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle
  11/23/22
The warrant for “illegal firearms” Why trust ...
titillating lemon lettuce
  11/23/22
Guess he made the right choice
sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle
  11/23/22
The Branch Davidians set simultaneous fires in three places ...
bat shit crazy school
  11/23/22
Don't know about you but not going to trust the gov on this ...
titillating lemon lettuce
  11/23/22
Don’t reptiles need a force like this to go after citi...
sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle
  11/23/22
lmao knew you were a rancid shitlib
titillating lemon lettuce
  11/23/22
? isn’t that what you want?
sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle
  11/23/22
It was thoroughly contested and reported out for years. The...
bat shit crazy school
  11/23/22
On the other hand, if you just run a child sex cult without ...
soggy swashbuckling stain
  11/24/22
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razzle associate haunted graveyard
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Date: November 22nd, 2022 11:51 PM
Author: titillating lemon lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45533396)



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Date: November 22nd, 2022 11:57 PM
Author: angry arrogant tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45533414)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:29 AM
Author: bossy alcoholic messiness theater

that was messed up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45533507)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:50 PM
Author: soggy swashbuckling stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535306)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 11:22 AM
Author: titillating lemon lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45539383)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 8:52 PM
Author: bronze flickering tanning salon chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45548454)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 6:45 AM
Author: Concupiscible Really Tough Guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45533859)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:22 AM
Author: titillating lemon lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45534819)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:23 AM
Author: titillating lemon lettuce

In October 1989, the ATF claimed that Weaver sold the informant two sawed-off shotguns, with the overall length of the guns shorter than the limit set by federal law. In November 1989, Weaver accused the ATF informant of being a spy for the police; Weaver later wrote he had been warned by "Rico V."[26] The informant's handler, Herb Byerly, ordered him to have no further contact with Weaver. Eventually, FBI informant Rico Valentino outed the ATF informant to Aryan Nations security.[2]: 112 

In June 1990, Byerly attempted to use the sawed-off shotgun charge as leverage to get Weaver to act as an informant for his investigation into Aryan Nations.[20]: 13, 22  Weaver refused to become a "snitch", and the ATF filed the gun charges in June 1990. The ATF alleged that Weaver was a bank robber with criminal convictions.[27] (Those claims were false: at that time Weaver had no criminal record. The 1995 Senate investigation found: "Weaver was not a suspect in any bank robberies.")[28][self-published source] A federal grand jury indicted Weaver in December 1990 for making and possessing, but not for selling, illegal weapons in October 1989.[20]: 34 

The ATF concluded it would be too dangerous for agents to arrest Weaver at his property. In January 1991, ATF agents posed as broken-down motorists and arrested Weaver when he and Vicki stopped to assist.[20]: 13, 22  Weaver was told of the charges against him, released on bail, and told that his trial would begin on February 19, 1991. On January 22, the judge in the case appointed attorney Everett Hofmeister as Weaver's legal representative. The same day, Weaver called probation officer Karl Richins and told him that he had been instructed to contact Richins on that date. Richins did not have the case file at that time, so he asked Weaver to leave his contact information and said he would contact him when he received the paperwork. According to Richins, Weaver did not give him a telephone number. Hofmeister sent Weaver letters on January 19, January 31, and February 5, asking Weaver to contact him to work on his defense within the federal court system.[20]: 38 

On February 5, the trial date was changed from February 19 to 20 to give participants more travel time following a federal holiday. The court clerk sent the parties a letter informing them of the date change, but the notice was not sent directly to Weaver, only to Hofmeister. On February 7, Richins sent Weaver a letter indicating that he had the case file and needed to talk with Weaver. This letter erroneously said that Weaver's trial date was March 20.[20]: 38 [29] On February 8, Hofmeister again attempted to contact Weaver by letter informing him that the trial was to begin on February 20 and that Weaver needed to contact him immediately. Hofmeister also made several calls to individuals who knew Weaver, asking them to have Weaver call him. Hofmeister told U.S. District Court Judge Harold Lyman Ryan that he had been unable to reach Weaver before the scheduled court date.[30]

When Weaver did not appear in court on February 20, Ryan issued a bench warrant for failure to appear in court.[29][20]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45534829)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:42 AM
Author: bronze flickering tanning salon chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45534935)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:44 AM
Author: titillating lemon lettuce

*Gives you a notice for March 20 to appear in court when it's actually February 20*

*February 20 passes, you send a giant ATF/FBI squad in wearing camp, kill the dude's son after you shoot his dog and then snipe the dude's wife holding an infant in her hands*

*Just say whoops and it's nbd*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45534939)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:10 PM
Author: bronze flickering tanning salon chad

Is this case the reason ATF did not have a director for decades?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535082)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:05 PM
Author: Razzmatazz abnormal den milk

1. was a nazi

2. refused to surrender

deserved it ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535051)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:17 PM
Author: titillating lemon lettuce

So the FBI's mandate is to go around and hunt citizens it deems "Nazis" ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535115)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:46 PM
Author: Razzmatazz abnormal den milk

sure, nasty guys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535289)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:26 PM
Author: indecent house-broken regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535158)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:24 AM
Author: sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle

tbf if you ran a child sex cult and amassed an illegal arsenal of weapons at your heavily fortified compound, that helped get you on their radar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45534834)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:38 AM
Author: titillating lemon lettuce

>>>if you ran a child sex cult and amassed an illegal arsenal of weapons

Can you please show me the conviction?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45534906)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:46 AM
Author: sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle

the guy at issue killed self (for no reason at all) before the fbi could arrest him



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45534942)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:49 AM
Author: titillating lemon lettuce

The ATF showed up and literally started shooting at the house. One of the jumpy agents accidentally discharged his gun and the entire ATF squad then poured bullets into the building.

They then lit the building on fire with a grenade and murdered dozens of innocents.

You can't hold the deaths of innocents on Koresh. The FBI murdered 70 innocents for sport



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45534952)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:00 PM
Author: sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle

At numerous points they had a ceasefire and had Koresh on the phone. He had no intention of giving himself up to save lives. He made it clear he was going out in a blaze no matter what since the alternative was to stand trial for sex crimes against minors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535016)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:01 PM
Author: titillating lemon lettuce

The warrant for “illegal firearms”

Why trust the government on a cease fire when they are literally raiding and shooting at you without provocation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535029)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:06 PM
Author: sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle

Guess he made the right choice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535057)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:12 PM
Author: bat shit crazy school

The Branch Davidians set simultaneous fires in three places as soon as the tear gas hit. They may or may not have known that this would make the fire grow quickly but at best they were the primary cause of their own deaths. The jumpy trigger ATF dude happened earlier when Koresh insanely tried to walk out and confront two truckloads full of agents by himself. It seems obvious that he had a death wish and wanted to be killed in a spectacular fashion so that he would be famous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535092)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: titillating lemon lettuce

Don't know about you but not going to trust the gov on this one

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The events of the siege and attack, particularly the origin of the fire, are disputed by various sources. Department of Justice reports from October 1993 and July 2000 conclude that although incendiary tear gas canisters were used by the FBI, the Branch Davidians had started the fire, based on listening devices overhearing their discussion, and evidence that showed at least three simultaneous ignition points.[16][17][18] The FBI contends that none of their agents fired any live rounds on the day of the fire.[17] Critics contend that live rounds were fired by law enforcement, and suggest that a combination of gunshots and flammable tear gas and live rounds was the true cause for the fire.[19][20][21]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535111)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:19 PM
Author: sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle

Don’t reptiles need a force like this to go after citizens if your goal of a fourth reich is ever to be realized?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535124)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:23 PM
Author: titillating lemon lettuce

lmao knew you were a rancid shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535134)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:31 PM
Author: sickened apoplectic hospital wrinkle

? isn’t that what you want?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535198)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:45 PM
Author: bat shit crazy school

It was thoroughly contested and reported out for years. The tapes are real and have been reviewed by plenty of others besides the government. It’s true that the FBI/ATF couldn’t actually hear what they were saying in real time and that also tracks bc if the Feds thought they were about to get firebombed they definitely would’ve approached differently/not at all. It also makes sense that even the members who might not have been down to die in a fire could’ve been down to make Molotov cocktails to “throw at the feds.”

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2018/04/18/how-the-branch-davidians-set-the-fires-for-a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-of-their-doomsday/?outputType=amp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45535275)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 7:03 AM
Author: soggy swashbuckling stain

On the other hand, if you just run a child sex cult without amassing an arsenal of weapons, the FBI does your bidding and probably has senior leaders along its membership (along with DNC/Clinton world honchos)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45538809)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:38 AM
Author: razzle associate haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240520&forum_id=2#45534908)