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Can't imagine putting in 8-9 years of 2000+ billables & being getting "counsel"

No equity. No possibility to make major money. Just endless ...
mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant
  11/30/22
half the "partners" in BIGLAW aren't equity partne...
Aqua lodge
  11/30/22
What else would a fuckin liberal artist do? haha
Red metal multi-billionaire
  11/30/22
Academia. A much better life, more interesting, massive time...
mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant
  11/30/22
(Karlstack)
Red metal multi-billionaire
  11/30/22
in the 1970's maybe
Heady Hunting Ground
  11/30/22
Counsel is the life. Half a mil for doing crossword puzzles....
indecent hall hairy legs
  11/30/22
How many hours do you bill?
mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant
  11/30/22
2000
indecent hall hairy legs
  11/30/22
Lol jfc
plum fragrant native
  11/30/22
if you truly do not give a fuck about prestige or what other...
chartreuse glittery associate temple
  11/30/22
It is not Cr. He is an associate, for life. He is billing li...
mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant
  11/30/22
...
Slap-happy point
  11/30/22
i mean i am an equity partner at the same firm where he is c...
chartreuse glittery associate temple
  11/30/22
lol ok bro you have no idea how much he is on call. i saw...
mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant
  11/30/22
no ur actually extremely retarded and it shows.
excitant out-of-control filthpig
  11/30/22
...
mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant
  11/30/22
i've billed 2000 before, on deal work, and the on call/"...
Heady Hunting Ground
  11/30/22
lmfao at pumos raging at this absolutely devastating pwnage
Mauve contagious school cafeteria
  12/01/22
"though you will be the first out the door when the lay...
excitant out-of-control filthpig
  11/30/22
Cr that's why they stick around for soooo long.
mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant
  11/30/22
depends on the work/what the client will pay. if they can ge...
Mauve contagious school cafeteria
  12/01/22
i doubt it. juniors are complete shit these days. they need ...
indecent hall hairy legs
  12/01/22
thats why its mostly a female thing now.
Black menage
  11/30/22
Cant imagine wasting a decade of my life working in biglaw. ...
bateful hissy fit
  11/30/22
how is being a partner any better?
Aphrodisiac impressive garrison liquid oxygen
  11/30/22
You don’t seem to understand the PRESTIGE (and more $$...
Mewling multi-colored abode
  12/01/22
there's no prestige in being a biglaw partner
Aphrodisiac impressive garrison liquid oxygen
  12/01/22
because you make millions of dollars per year. that's the di...
mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant
  12/01/22
I have done it all – grind it away as an associate for...
wonderful field
  12/01/22


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Date: November 30th, 2022 8:14 PM
Author: mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant

No equity. No possibility to make major money. Just endless associate years in your future, each one like the last and the next.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566229)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:40 PM
Author: Aqua lodge

half the "partners" in BIGLAW aren't equity partners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566542)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 8:22 PM
Author: Red metal multi-billionaire

What else would a fuckin liberal artist do? haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566259)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 8:24 PM
Author: mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant

Academia. A much better life, more interesting, massive time off, get to horse around all the time, study the classics, become an expert in your slice of trivia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566271)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:42 PM
Author: Red metal multi-billionaire

(Karlstack)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566553)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 10:58 PM
Author: Heady Hunting Ground

in the 1970's maybe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566804)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 8:29 PM
Author: indecent hall hairy legs

Counsel is the life. Half a mil for doing crossword puzzles. No business development or management responsibilities. They let me move to a low COL city. Same job I would have killed for surviving ite but I make 4x as much money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566291)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 8:50 PM
Author: mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant

How many hours do you bill?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566384)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:09 PM
Author: indecent hall hairy legs

2000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566434)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 11:04 PM
Author: plum fragrant native

Lol jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566833)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 8:54 PM
Author: chartreuse glittery associate temple

if you truly do not give a fuck about prestige or what other people think of you this is cr, though you will be the first out the door when the layoffs start

i have a friend who just wanted no part of the rat face race and asked to be counsel several years before breakfast. he's in amazing shape now, spends tons of time with his kids, and loves life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566394)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:31 PM
Author: mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant

It is not Cr. He is an associate, for life. He is billing like an associate and on call like an associate. also lol at mentionig 'prestige' as if that is a relevant factor in not wanting equity.

you friend does not spend tons of time with his kids. You can't both spend a "ton" of time with your kids and work from 8-8. He is a professional associate. Just lol.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566506)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:33 PM
Author: Slap-happy point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566516)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:35 PM
Author: chartreuse glittery associate temple

i mean i am an equity partner at the same firm where he is counsel so i know exactly what he bills and how much he is on call, and our wives are best friends so i know how much time he spends with his kids

but please pumo, tell me more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566523)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:38 PM
Author: mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant

lol ok bro

you have no idea how much he is on call. i saw it with mine own eyes. you can't tell me lies and have me believe them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566535)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:39 PM
Author: excitant out-of-control filthpig

no ur actually extremely retarded and it shows.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566539)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:40 PM
Author: mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566543)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 11:00 PM
Author: Heady Hunting Ground

i've billed 2000 before, on deal work, and the on call/"check your emails" part of it would make it real hard to spend solid time with kids. happy it's working out for your buddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566813)



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Date: December 1st, 2022 8:25 AM
Author: Mauve contagious school cafeteria

lmfao at pumos raging at this absolutely devastating pwnage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45567691)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:35 PM
Author: excitant out-of-control filthpig

"though you will be the first out the door when the layoffs start"

LOL, no. probably the last actually.

Partners with no business = first to go

Useless associates = second to go

believe it or not people charging the most but taking home a smaller proportion are actually the LAST to go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566524)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:41 PM
Author: mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant

Cr that's why they stick around for soooo long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566550)



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Date: December 1st, 2022 8:27 AM
Author: Mauve contagious school cafeteria

depends on the work/what the client will pay. if they can get by without the senior associates and counsels they will. if the midlevels are shit they'll keep the counsels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45567698)



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Date: December 1st, 2022 1:37 AM
Author: indecent hall hairy legs

i doubt it. juniors are complete shit these days. they need people who get the right answers so they can justify the leverage on bills. service partners are the ones with a red dot. then they'll promote me and i'll get pushed out when i can't be bothered to sell or care about summer associates. circle of life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45567350)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 9:50 PM
Author: Black menage

thats why its mostly a female thing now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566571)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 10:59 PM
Author: bateful hissy fit

Cant imagine wasting a decade of my life working in biglaw. Very sad, brothers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566810)



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Date: November 30th, 2022 11:06 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac impressive garrison liquid oxygen

how is being a partner any better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45566838)



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Date: December 1st, 2022 8:21 AM
Author: Mewling multi-colored abode

You don’t seem to understand the PRESTIGE (and more $$$ to buy crap for fat wife and kids who hate you).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45567685)



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Date: December 1st, 2022 11:53 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac impressive garrison liquid oxygen

there's no prestige in being a biglaw partner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45568534)



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Date: December 1st, 2022 12:01 PM
Author: mischievous shimmering foreskin legal warrant

because you make millions of dollars per year. that's the difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45568583)



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Date: December 1st, 2022 12:12 PM
Author: wonderful field

I have done it all – grind it away as an associate for eight years for no breakfast

Grind away for more years counsel to get non-equity partner

All well billing 2002 3000 hours per year, killing me physically and mentally

Something changed toward the end, and I shifted to business generation, was able to make equity partner at this firm left, and started my own firm

Still work a shit load, but make 10 times more. I can tell you that being an equity partner and generating business is a completely different animal from being an associate and it is not merely a matter of working the hours and getting the title.

Looking back at my current associates, and even non-equity partners, I know for a fact that very few of them have the capability to actually do what I am doing. not that it is impossible. It is just a completely different skill set and personality.

Conclusion, here is that if you are grinding away as an associate, thinking that it translates to being a partner or running a business, that is just incorrect. all you are doing is making yourself a better associate so your skill set is and always will be billing hours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5244834&forum_id=2#45568661)