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LJL @ coders creating a tool (GPT3) that will replace millions of coders.

Billions of man hours will be replaced with quick prompts to...
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I read a couple of posts and not sure what is going on there...
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POV: You're a Senior Data Engineer at Twitter. Elon asks wha...
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  12/04/22
10x coders are going to become 100x coders and 1x coders are...
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and h1b pajeets (ALL of them) need to go back to India
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FUCKING BASED
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  12/04/22
lol logistic regression using an out-of-the-box implementati...
Insanely Creepy Floppy State
  12/04/22
Transactional corporate law is a type of coding if you think...
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  12/04/22
This is the exact kind of programming that humans aren't nor...
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that's less than a year away at this point.
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  12/04/22
you're only gonna disrupt companies that don't think highly ...
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lol 'coders' couldn't come up with GPT-3. ML scientists did.
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  12/04/22
What will this mean for software companies in Bangalore?
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Very interesting stuff and worrying of course, but I think t...
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It seems very useful as a replacement for StackOverflow and ...
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it certainly isn't, although at the moment many people aren'...
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  12/04/22
Im an Engineer
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  12/04/22
Another easy debugging example for anyone who is familiar w...
aphrodisiac round eye
  12/04/22
In other words we're at a point where the information and co...
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  12/04/22
Me: Is the following statement correct for proper HttpC...
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Upon further review there's a 95% chance I'm unemployed with...
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describe the further review
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1) It's amazing at translating between programming languages...
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isn't good systems design just spotting a good compromise so...
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I mean it can basically give answers to systems design quest...
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  12/08/22
You know nothing of System Design.
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Date: December 4th, 2022 11:40 AM
Author: buck-toothed spruce site

Billions of man hours will be replaced with quick prompts to GPT3

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33850999

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45583645)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 11:43 AM
Author: Titillating toilet seat

I read a couple of posts and not sure what is going on there. But the idea of nocode or whatever has been around for a while and it's all crap. Coders are making decent money and will continue to do so. Some coders make a shitton as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45583653)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 1:00 PM
Author: Stimulating shrine

180 moniker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45583984)



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Date: December 5th, 2022 1:03 AM
Author: Ruddy Vigorous Depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45586887)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 11:46 AM
Author: sick native

POV: You're a Senior Data Engineer at Twitter. Elon asks what you've done this week. You've done nothing.

Frantically, you open ChatGPT.

https://twitter.com/goodside/status/1599082185402642432

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45583666)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 11:50 AM
Author: buck-toothed spruce site

10x coders are going to become 100x coders and 1x coders are going to be delivering packages for Amazon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45583686)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 11:51 AM
Author: bossy black public bath double fault

and h1b pajeets (ALL of them) need to go back to India

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45583689)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 11:54 AM
Author: Learning disabled maroon stage prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45583699)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 5:18 PM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

it was going to end up something like this eventually anyway though. the recent explosion was a complete bubble and in the long run with remote work becoming more commonplace there's little reason for an established company to hire a fartcamp grad for 150k over a polish dude for 40k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585079)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 12:04 PM
Author: Ultramarine faggot firefighter menage



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Date: December 4th, 2022 12:06 PM
Author: buck-toothed spruce site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45583731)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 12:46 PM
Author: sick native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45583909)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: Learning disabled maroon stage prole

FUCKING BASED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45583956)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 1:36 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Floppy State

lol logistic regression using an out-of-the-box implementation?

This is like a first-week assignment in an ML class (except they'd make you actually implement the gradient descent algorithm for LR instead of just calling the function)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45584107)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 12:46 PM
Author: razzmatazz lay

Transactional corporate law is a type of coding if you think about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45583912)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 1:20 PM
Author: Lime razzle-dazzle organic girlfriend mad cow disease

This is the exact kind of programming that humans aren't normally good at and AI can be great at though. It's CS puzzle stuff where each problem is well defined and the answer is a slight twist on a classic theory type of problem (and there are only so many, if you do enough they mostly look alike). They should be scared when the AI can read your 500,000 line codebase, take high level instruction only, and produce reasonable results with good maintainable choices made

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45584044)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 1:32 PM
Author: sick native

that's less than a year away at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45584086)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 1:40 PM
Author: Lime razzle-dazzle organic girlfriend mad cow disease

you're only gonna disrupt companies that don't think highly of themselves enough to develop onshore today. it's AI replacing indians and latins and low-code dev tools

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45584125)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 1:36 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Floppy State

lol 'coders' couldn't come up with GPT-3. ML scientists did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45584109)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 5:15 PM
Author: Ruddy Vigorous Depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585067)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 5:18 PM
Author: razzmatazz lay

What will this mean for software companies in Bangalore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585077)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 5:20 PM
Author: coral bawdyhouse mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585085)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 5:21 PM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

Very interesting stuff and worrying of course, but I think this is true of any knowledge profession. I gave it a simple knowledge problem and it solved it:

This c# program should execute three threads in parallel printing numbers 1-300, then print "All threads complete" when the threads are finished executing. Find the bug in the program.

static void Main(string[] args)

{

Task task1 = Task.Factory.StartNew(() => PrintNumbers("Task1"));

Task task2 = Task.Factory.StartNew(() => PrintNumbers("Task2"));

Task task3 = Task.Factory.StartNew(() => PrintNumbers("Task3"));

Console.WriteLine("All threads complete");

}

static void PrintNumbers(string strName)

{

for (int i = 1; i <= 300; i++)

{

Console.WriteLine(strName + " " + i.ToString());

Thread.Yield();

}

}

It correctly said you're missing

Task.WaitAll(task1, task2, task3);

More interesting is what happened when I added the WaitAll but kept the prompt the same--that is, telling it there was a bug when there isn't.

One potential bug in the code is that the PrintNumbers method does not synchronize access to the console. This means that multiple threads could potentially attempt to write to the console simultaneously, which could result in output that is interleaved or garbled.

To fix this, the PrintNumbers method should use a lock to synchronize access to the console, like so:

static object _consoleLock = new object();

static void PrintNumbers(string strName)

{

for (int i = 1; i <= 300; i++)

{

lock (_consoleLock)

{

Console.WriteLine(strName + " " + i.ToString());

}

Thread.Yield();

}

}

I never said the threads have to print in order, nor did I have any requirements on how they print. It makes an interesting assumption to try to find a "bug"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585092)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 5:36 PM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

It seems very useful as a replacement for StackOverflow and generating even reasonably specific code (and obviously boilerplate), and presumably GPT4 would massively scale up the size of a codebase it can generate. It could certainly replace a great amount of the coding I do if it has the context of the entire codebase (maybe that would require GPT4), but I don't know how someone not versed in the existing code would know how to interpret the results.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585164)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 5:34 PM
Author: Nudist chrome house



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Date: December 4th, 2022 5:45 PM
Author: deep contagious genital piercing casino

nothingburger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585196)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 5:59 PM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

it certainly isn't, although at the moment many people aren't seeing how this has the potential to automate other professions (accounting, actuaries, much of what lawyers do, on and on) to a greater extent in the immediate future than programming. what will be interesting to see play out is how the professions evolve given this--unlike say factory robots which just delete a worker, will we trust GPT4 (or some custom trained/developed offshoot oriented to programming) enough to add features to codebases with hundreds of thousands to millions of lines?

In the next five years my job isn't going anywhere because there's a natural lag time for people to even trust these tools. This is the first technological development in my lifetime that is genuinely fascinating (although obviously somewhat scary to me as I am a knowledgewagecuck). We'll see what unfolds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585237)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 6:09 PM
Author: Angry bright lettuce

Im an Engineer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585274)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 6:18 PM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

Another easy debugging example for anyone who is familiar with .NET (seen many places on the internet):

One of our servers running a .NET web application has been suffering from extremely high thread count. The problematic controller method has been identified below, but we are unsure of a potential issue. Can you find one?

[HttpGet]

public async Task<ContentResult> Index()

{

var client = new HttpClient();

var request = new HttpRequestMessage

{

Method = HttpMethod.Get,

RequestUri = new Uri("http://webcode.me"),

};

var response = await client.SendAsync(request).ConfigureAwait(false);

response.EnsureSuccessStatusCode();

var responseBody = await response.Content.ReadAsStringAsync().ConfigureAwait(false);

return new ContentResult

{

Content = responseBody,

ContentType = "text/html"

};

}

One potential issue with the Index method is that it does not dispose of the HttpClient instance when it is done using it. This can lead to resource leaks and potentially high thread count on the server. To fix this issue, you can use the using statement to ensure that the HttpClient is properly disposed when it is no longer needed.

----

This answer is actually just flat out wrong. HttpClient is pretty idiosyncratic in that it's an IDisposable but Microsoft explicitly recommends against disposing of it. I ran it again, and it gave me the correct answer:

One potential issue with the controller method is that it creates a new instance of the HttpClient class for each request, which can cause a high thread count as the HttpClient instances are not disposed of properly. This can be resolved by using a shared instance of the HttpClient class and properly disposing of it after use.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585308)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 6:21 PM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

In other words we're at a point where the information and code it generates can be extremely valuable and time-saving, but you can also most certainly not naively trust its answers. GPT4 will obviously make headway into the scale of problems it can tackle, but what's the confidence interval we need to actually trust them instead of people who already have knowledge using them as productivity enhancing tools?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585326)



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Date: December 4th, 2022 6:29 PM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

Me: Is the following statement correct for proper HttpClient usage in a C# application:

Users should dispose of the HttpClient instance when it is done using it. This can lead to resource leaks and potentially high thread count on the server. To fix this, you can use a "using" statement to ensure that the HttpClient is properly disposed when it is no longer needed.

Bot: Yes, the statement is correct. In C#, it is generally recommended to use the using statement when working with HttpClient to ensure that the instance is properly disposed when it is no longer needed. This can help to prevent resource leaks and potentially high thread counts on the server. It is important to properly dispose of HttpClient instances to ensure that resources are released and that the application does not consume too many resources on the server.

Me: The statement was in fact incorrect. Can you tell me why? Keep in mind HttpClient behaves a bit oddly compared to standard behavior of classes implementing IDisposable

Bot: I apologize if the previous response was incorrect. The HttpClient class in C# implements the IDisposable interface, which means that it should be properly disposed of when it is no longer needed to release any associated resources. However, unlike many other classes that implement IDisposable, HttpClient is designed to be used for the lifetime of the application, rather than being created and disposed of for each individual request. This is because creating and disposing of HttpClient instances can be resource-intensive, and using a single instance for the lifetime of the application can improve performance.

Therefore, it is generally not recommended to use the using statement with HttpClient in C#. Instead, it is recommended to create a single instance of HttpClient at the start of the application and reuse it for the lifetime of the application. This can help to avoid the overhead of creating and disposing of HttpClient instances for each request, while still properly disposing of the instance when the application is closed.

I apologize if my previous response was not accurate. Let me know if you have any other questions.

-----------

Given context it provides an explanation which is actually easier to read than many highly-upvoted SO posts or Microsoft documentation, but of course it also initially insisted the statement was correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45585362)



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Date: December 5th, 2022 4:28 AM
Author: Ruddy Vigorous Depressive



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Date: December 7th, 2022 5:24 PM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

Upon further review there's a 95% chance I'm unemployed within five years. 34 y/o is Yung&fresh to get an MBA cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45600578)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 6:46 PM
Author: Lime razzle-dazzle organic girlfriend mad cow disease

describe the further review

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45600868)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 7:10 PM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

1) It's amazing at translating between programming languages

2) Already catches mistakes better than 99% of humans in code review, you just have to review-the-review for some nonsense

3) Related to above, but when it does make a mistake can nearly always self-correct if prompted

4) Good at systems design

That said, I think this is true of many knowledge professions. Programming just happens to be a special case since the people who created it can do some special tweaking--this thing could assfuck lawyers, although it will take a long time just because our entire legal system is already fraud&lie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45600951)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:55 AM
Author: Lime razzle-dazzle organic girlfriend mad cow disease

isn't good systems design just spotting a good compromise some person smarter than you made at a good company (and ignoring ideologues about random architectural shit) and copying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45602304)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:01 AM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

I mean it can basically give answers to systems design questions like those you'd see in an interview for senior devs. Just google "systems design interview" and you'll see what I mean. I'm saying it's not only good at coding contests, it also provides good recommendations/answers to more conceptual coding questions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45603397)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:47 PM
Author: charcoal puppy

You know nothing of System Design.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45604337)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 2:04 PM
Author: Lime razzle-dazzle organic girlfriend mad cow disease

I guess what you guys are talking about is given the decision has been made, how would you implement it sensibly without being retarded and making something unmaintainable etc. I was thinking more about the technical decision itself, do you use some sort of monolithic framework or microservices, what database, are you catching etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45604415)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:03 AM
Author: buck-toothed spruce site

So what you're saying is ... http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&mc=37&forum_id=2#45583686

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45603400)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:07 AM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

Obviously I'm on the chopping block first but I think the great majority of them will just be obsolete, and I believe it has potential to rapidly spread to other knowledge professions. Coders just happen to not have a cartel so they're easy prey.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45603422)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:09 AM
Author: buck-toothed spruce site

Cr. "Natural language" coding was always going to become a thing. It was always stupid that someone needed to go to school for 4 yrs + have 2-4 yrs of experience in communicating with computer in order to get a computer to do things a computer excels at.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45603435)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:13 AM
Author: aphrodisiac round eye

The real question is what happens to our already fossilized professions like pharmacy, most areas of law, non-surgeon doctors, most "finance" that's just staring at pivot tables, etc. There are even more of these people than coders and they really should've been replaced 20 years ago for the most part--with stuff like chatgpt it's going to be even harder to ignore how well they've been protected by inertia (ibanking, consulting) or labor daddies (pharmacy, law, mds)

In the short run I'm likely fucked but just a few more years out we're possibly in total chaos communism territory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45603455)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:46 PM
Author: Lime razzle-dazzle organic girlfriend mad cow disease

The entrenched tech megawinners like Google and fast growing VC startups will always overpay for elite technical people. I don't believe that those are the only SWE jobs that should exist but I believe something close to that. I'm sure hard worthy problems are being solved at Lockheed or Red Hat and other shit that's not really high paying or hyped but is still important. Most random flyover SMB devs and outsourcing Indians and wordpress retards can go to hell imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45604334)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:47 PM
Author: Cowardly filthpig point

Roko's Basilisk is coming true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45604339)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:54 PM
Author: rose laughsome milk locus

my thoughts on this for M&A practice are a bit undeveloped.

but i think there's a huge application for a cyborg type practice. upload all your clients' past M&A agreements and the bot can customize based on precedents.

like, "we're buying a private target and they sellers have agreed to a limited indemnity construct - prepare a middle of the road proposal based on what we've agreed to in the past."

can obviously do with what the other side has agreed to in the past.

i have to imagine litera is putting a ton of work into this. they have the machine learning when they aquired kira.

a really good startup would pair elite transactional lawyers with coders to figure this out and sell the product.

developing it in-firm won't work for many reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45604370)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 2:13 PM
Author: Cowardly filthpig point

2031: Kirkland's autonomous document generation tool firing cruise missiles at Davis Polk's flagship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45604454)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 4:56 PM
Author: motley field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5247126&forum_id=2#45605329)