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Majority of covid deaths in the US are among the vaccinated (link)

“This does not mean the vaccines don’t work,&rdq...
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
The vaccine not working is proof that the vaccine is working...
Slap-happy hospital telephone
  12/08/22
RC challenged? The vaccine works
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
she’s not wrong. do we have the data by relevant demog...
Peach bossy nibblets potus
  12/08/22
1. majority of country is vaccinated 2. the unvaccinated ...
Fluffy Corn Cake Business Firm
  12/08/22
"Other factors affecting COVID deaths include waning va...
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
At best, the vaccines did nothing. At worst, the vaccine...
diverse bat-shit-crazy gas station
  12/08/22
...
nudist grizzly jap
  12/08/22
The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows t...
Cracking base
  12/08/22
They literally just make shit up
house-broken keepsake machete ticket booth
  12/08/22
So the same source of data can be trusted for one purpose (t...
Cracking base
  12/08/22
are you saying they’re an infallible oracle or that it...
Peach bossy nibblets potus
  12/08/22
stick to stuff you know about like checking commas and testi...
Rough-skinned meetinghouse wrinkle
  12/08/22
it's more interesting to split up the results by demographic...
Stirring Jet Mad Cow Disease Hall
  12/08/22
The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows t...
Cracking base
  12/08/22
From COVID or for all causes?
Mentally Impaired Coldplay Fan Idea He Suggested
  12/08/22
Covid. Why would this be for all causes?
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
In your opinion, how reliable has the medical establishment ...
Overrated Sienna Coffee Pot Native
  12/08/22
Very reliable. Only alex jones-types would disagree
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
cr
Stirring Jet Mad Cow Disease Hall
  12/08/22
Deaths and hospitalizations basically track the percentages ...
Doobsian property new version
  12/08/22
The vast majority of people in this country have an inkling ...
low-t nofapping fortuitous meteor field
  12/08/22
The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows t...
Cracking base
  12/08/22
Does this take into account pre-vaccine deaths?
low-t nofapping fortuitous meteor field
  12/08/22
LMAO if those are included.
Peach bossy nibblets potus
  12/08/22
I don't think it does
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
Almost like people should be able to evaluate their relative...
judgmental razzmatazz idiot
  12/08/22
Then no one would take it, resulting in a lot of deaths
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
People who took the vaccines have conveniently forgot that t...
costumed faggot firefighter location
  12/08/22
The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows t...
Cracking base
  12/08/22
death rate over what time period?
vigorous trust fund national
  12/08/22
Since the start of the pandemic
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
Then that is a pretty useless stat then.
low-t nofapping fortuitous meteor field
  12/08/22
Sorry, i meant since start of vaccine rollout
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
Link?
maize shaky main people
  12/08/22
Idk but i just have a hunch
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
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vigorous trust fund national
  12/08/22
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Peach bossy nibblets potus
  12/08/22
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concupiscible lemon sound barrier
  12/08/22
yeah that's what I guessed.
vigorous trust fund national
  12/08/22
I can't believe people got vaccinated and wor$e they willing...
frozen jewess
  12/08/22
The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows t...
Cracking base
  12/08/22
There's really no need to make arguments like this. The vacc...
Appetizing Nighttime Rigpig
  12/08/22
The problem all along with the whole COVID hysteria was that...
crawly school
  12/08/22
Yep. I still get enraged thinking about this. It was clea...
Appetizing Nighttime Rigpig
  12/08/22
The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows t...
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&fo...
maize shaky main people
  12/08/22
You might actually want to read the original post in this su...
low-t nofapping fortuitous meteor field
  12/08/22
I'm just parroting obeezy/npc talking points
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
correct. policymakers chose "simplicity" in messa...
Stirring Jet Mad Cow Disease Hall
  12/08/22
That’s what drives me nuts about this. Yes, there&rsqu...
judgmental razzmatazz idiot
  12/08/22
Better force 5 year Olds to wear masks for two years
Violent arousing roast beef
  12/08/22
All the fat old fucks who only had weeks to life anyway got ...
judgmental razzmatazz idiot
  12/08/22
Accountable for what? Saving lives?
sooty vengeful trump supporter
  12/08/22
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costumed faggot firefighter location
  12/08/22


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Date: December 8th, 2022 10:54 AM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

“This does not mean the vaccines don’t work,” said Dr. Monica Gandhi, a professor of medicine at the University of California San Francisco.

“The truth is we always knew we would see a growing proportion of vaccinated individuals among our COVID admissions,” said Dr. Shira Doron, infectious disease physician and hospital epidemiologist at Tufts Medical Center. “If 100% of the population were vaccinated — and that is what we wished for — then 100% of COVID hospitalizations and deaths would be among the vaccinated.”

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/12/01/more-deaths-among-vaccinated-americans-not-reason-avoid-vaccines-experts-say/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603366)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:57 PM
Author: Slap-happy hospital telephone

The vaccine not working is proof that the vaccine is working.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604381)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:59 PM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

RC challenged? The vaccine works

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604391)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 10:56 AM
Author: Peach bossy nibblets potus

she’s not wrong. do we have the data by relevant demographics?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603377)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 10:57 AM
Author: Fluffy Corn Cake Business Firm

1. majority of country is vaccinated

2. the unvaccinated who survived mostly caught it and now have strong immunity whereas the vaccinated probably mostly wore masks religiously and never caught it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603381)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:35 AM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

"Other factors affecting COVID deaths include waning vaccine protection, low numbers of people receiving updated boosters and natural immunity protection among the unvaccinated population"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603558)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:13 AM
Author: diverse bat-shit-crazy gas station

At best, the vaccines did nothing.

At worst, the vaccines contributed significantly to excess mortality are are currently seeing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603452)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:15 AM
Author: nudist grizzly jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603460)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:24 AM
Author: Cracking base

The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows that the death rate per 100,000 people among unvaccinated people was 1.32 on Sept. 25. By comparison, the rate for people vaccinated but without the updated bivalent booster is 0.26 per 100,000 people. And among those who have received the bivalent shot, it is 0.07 per 100,000 people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603509)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:43 AM
Author: house-broken keepsake machete ticket booth

They literally just make shit up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603611)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:51 AM
Author: Cracking base

So the same source of data can be trusted for one purpose (the subject of the OP) but not another purpose (the data i quoted)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603673)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:29 PM
Author: Peach bossy nibblets potus

are you saying they’re an infallible oracle or that it’s inconceivable they might report certain data in a misleading light that’s more favorable to them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604243)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:42 PM
Author: Rough-skinned meetinghouse wrinkle

stick to stuff you know about like checking commas and testing new buttplugs. data analysis clearly isn't your wheelhouse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604312)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 10:36 PM
Author: Stirring Jet Mad Cow Disease Hall

it's more interesting to split up the results by demographics -- i do think the vaccines saved lives in older populations, but this paper suggests that in <29yo people vaccines were a net harm https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249547&mc=4&forum_id=2

edit: and i agree with the commenters below saying that due to mis-classifications as to which deaths are covid virus or vaccine related, and which aren't, a death rate "from covid" isn't helpful -- we need to see mortality or excess mortality from all causes during last year or two by vaccinated vs unvaxxed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45606772)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:24 AM
Author: Cracking base

The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows that the death rate per 100,000 people among unvaccinated people was 1.32 on Sept. 25. By comparison, the rate for people vaccinated but without the updated bivalent booster is 0.26 per 100,000 people. And among those who have received the bivalent shot, it is 0.07 per 100,000 people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603504)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:30 PM
Author: Mentally Impaired Coldplay Fan Idea He Suggested

From COVID or for all causes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604249)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:58 PM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

Covid. Why would this be for all causes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604385)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 2:04 PM
Author: Overrated Sienna Coffee Pot Native

In your opinion, how reliable has the medical establishment been on parsing out COVID deaths from non-COVID deaths?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604412)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 3:02 PM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

Very reliable. Only alex jones-types would disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604712)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 10:38 PM
Author: Stirring Jet Mad Cow Disease Hall

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45606778)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:19 AM
Author: Doobsian property new version

Deaths and hospitalizations basically track the percentages of vaccinated and unvaccinated.

It’s almost as if the vaccines are completely useless. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603482)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:20 AM
Author: low-t nofapping fortuitous meteor field

The vast majority of people in this country have an inkling that this is true, but they will never admit it. Even to themselves. People will fight like hell and come up with outlandish theories to avoid the conclusion that they have been duped



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603488)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:24 AM
Author: Cracking base

The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows that the death rate per 100,000 people among unvaccinated people was 1.32 on Sept. 25. By comparison, the rate for people vaccinated but without the updated bivalent booster is 0.26 per 100,000 people. And among those who have received the bivalent shot, it is 0.07 per 100,000 people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603505)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:40 AM
Author: low-t nofapping fortuitous meteor field

Does this take into account pre-vaccine deaths?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603589)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 12:02 PM
Author: Peach bossy nibblets potus

LMAO if those are included.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603734)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 12:19 PM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

I don't think it does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603831)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:24 PM
Author: judgmental razzmatazz idiot

Almost like people should be able to evaluate their relative risk and decide whether an increase from basically zero to basically zero matters for them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604223)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:46 PM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

Then no one would take it, resulting in a lot of deaths

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604331)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 9:43 PM
Author: costumed faggot firefighter location

People who took the vaccines have conveniently forgot that they took them and proselytized them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45606553)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:23 AM
Author: Cracking base

The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows that the death rate per 100,000 people among unvaccinated people was 1.32 on Sept. 25. By comparison, the rate for people vaccinated but without the updated bivalent booster is 0.26 per 100,000 people. And among those who have received the bivalent shot, it is 0.07 per 100,000 people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603503)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:38 AM
Author: vigorous trust fund national

death rate over what time period?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603577)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:41 AM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

Since the start of the pandemic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603597)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:42 AM
Author: low-t nofapping fortuitous meteor field

Then that is a pretty useless stat then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603609)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:44 AM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

Sorry, i meant since start of vaccine rollout

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603622)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:11 PM
Author: maize shaky main people

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604143)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:31 PM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

Idk but i just have a hunch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604254)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:43 PM
Author: vigorous trust fund national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604321)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 3:09 PM
Author: Peach bossy nibblets potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604742)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 10:39 PM
Author: concupiscible lemon sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45606789)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:45 AM
Author: vigorous trust fund national

yeah that's what I guessed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603624)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:40 AM
Author: frozen jewess

I can't believe people got vaccinated and wor$e they willingly vaccinated their children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603587)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 11:52 AM
Author: Cracking base

The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows that the death rate per 100,000 people among unvaccinated people was 1.32 on Sept. 25. By comparison, the rate for people vaccinated but without the updated bivalent booster is 0.26 per 100,000 people. And among those who have received the bivalent shot, it is 0.07 per 100,000 people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603680)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 12:32 PM
Author: Appetizing Nighttime Rigpig

There's really no need to make arguments like this. The vaccine does seem to have limited effectiveness in preventing COVID deaths, and arguing the opposite is setting yourself to look retarded.

Instead, let's take the data at face value (lol) and say that the death rates are what the CDC says they are. For a non-obese individual under 60, let's assume the death rates are 5x lower than the overall death rates (realistically they're probably quite a bit lower than that, but let's go with it).

So you're going from a .000003% chance of dying from COVID to a .00000014% chance of dying from COVID. In exchange, you're giving yourself a ????% chance of other health complications.

Given that the vaccine has shown zero efficacy in preventing the spread of this "disease", what sane healthy person would look at those numbers and decide "yep, that vaccine sure is for me!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603902)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 12:43 PM
Author: crawly school

The problem all along with the whole COVID hysteria was that they never publicly said oh BTW if you are under 60 and not obese this is NBD. And if you dared say that it was more important for kids to be in school since they weren't getting seriously ill you were branded a science denier and banned from public discourse.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603978)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 12:45 PM
Author: Appetizing Nighttime Rigpig

Yep.

I still get enraged thinking about this. It was clear from the data so so early, and yet you couldn't have a rational conversation with most people about it.

Libs lots me for life with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603990)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:07 PM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

The latest data from the Centers for Disease Control shows that the death rate per 100,000 people among unvaccinated people was 1.32 on Sept. 25. By comparison, the rate for people vaccinated but without the updated bivalent booster is 0.26 per 100,000 people. And among those who have received the bivalent shot, it is 0.07 per 100,000 people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604121)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:11 PM
Author: maize shaky main people

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45603577

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604141)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:13 PM
Author: low-t nofapping fortuitous meteor field

You might actually want to read the original post in this subthread:

"Instead, let's take the data at face value ..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604154)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:30 PM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

I'm just parroting obeezy/npc talking points

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604251)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 10:39 PM
Author: Stirring Jet Mad Cow Disease Hall

correct. policymakers chose "simplicity" in messaging rather than "transparency" (i.e. the data is nuanced)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45606795)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:25 PM
Author: judgmental razzmatazz idiot

That’s what drives me nuts about this. Yes, there’s maybe five times the risk but what does that mean in real terms for any given individual?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604228)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:51 PM
Author: Violent arousing roast beef

Better force 5 year Olds to wear masks for two years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604354)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 1:21 PM
Author: judgmental razzmatazz idiot

All the fat old fucks who only had weeks to life anyway got vaccinated, so I can see why this is true.

What bothers me more is that no one will ever be held accountable for the mandates and other bullshit that transpired.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604201)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 3:30 PM
Author: sooty vengeful trump supporter

Accountable for what? Saving lives?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45604863)



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Date: December 8th, 2022 10:33 PM
Author: costumed faggot firefighter location

🤥

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249465&forum_id=2#45606757)