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what the max you'd ever pay in rent ever?

like assume wife+kids and in high COL city and you rent. Wh...
excitant box office
  01/26/23
$2k in NYC is my max
cobalt impressive heaven
  01/26/23
Enjoy woodlawn
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
I enjoy my 2 bedroom rent stabilized place in midtown east w...
cobalt impressive heaven
  01/26/23
>midtown east >rent stabilized Pick one
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
lol stay mad
cobalt impressive heaven
  01/26/23
I'll admit, I am. $200 "surprise" increase in main...
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
I would never rent in the city with a wife and kids. I bough...
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
context: wife wants to rent a $7500 apartment
excitant box office
  01/26/23
Slap her Tell her you might buy, but in no circumstances ...
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
ATD
maize mad cow disease
  01/26/23
...
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
...
Impertinent vigorous halford property
  01/26/23
that was in my range back when i had to move but i ended up ...
house-broken rigor hell
  01/26/23
Why is Manhattan a question?
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
because the nicer parts of brooklyn are better for someone w...
house-broken rigor hell
  01/26/23
Brooklyn is a sad blot on the eyes. Laughable to choose it o...
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
How much does she earn? And how much do you earn?
Galvanic blood rage school cafeteria
  01/26/23
out the city how big?
multi-colored up-to-no-good haunted graveyard bawdyhouse
  01/26/23
to reply: Yes MFH of course. Now have 2 young kids. ...
excitant box office
  01/26/23
I make half that and own a 1 bdrm coop. You never pay taxes ...
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
1 bd won't work. You think you can realistically get a 2 bd...
excitant box office
  01/26/23
Not at all friend!!! https://streeteasy.com/building/130-...
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
Explain why you are fine paying $3K in maintenance
Confused coldplay fan sanctuary
  01/27/23
How much is yours and how much did you put down?
coiffed hilarious gas station fortuitous meteor
  01/26/23
That's normal for MFH/SF
Passionate charcoal degenerate
  01/26/23
You only make $600,000 (pre-tax) and you're spending $90,000...
Spectacular haunting corner gaming laptop
  01/26/23
And I painstakingly sent him links of homes FOR SALE
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
buying doesn't make sense unless he's planning to stay long ...
house-broken rigor hell
  01/26/23
probably $5-6k but if I were somehow forced to live in a pla...
multi-colored up-to-no-good haunted graveyard bawdyhouse
  01/26/23
Goys be goy
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
?
multi-colored up-to-no-good haunted graveyard bawdyhouse
  01/26/23
No one should rent for 10-12k anywhere but a month to month
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
if you’ve got a family in MFH and you can afford it, w...
multi-colored up-to-no-good haunted graveyard bawdyhouse
  01/26/23
Max depends on my income.
Slate skinny woman
  01/26/23
...
Transparent organic girlfriend
  01/26/23
Goy logic
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
Explain why the absolute dollar amount is what matters.
Slate skinny woman
  01/26/23
Depends on if you’re trying to get laid or have a fami...
Carmine stage trump supporter
  01/26/23
50% of post-tax income on housing just to Get Laid?
charismatic base
  01/26/23
lol @ this logic if you need a whore just hire a whore.
maize mad cow disease
  01/26/23
CharlesXII can’t afford another scandal
Carmine stage trump supporter
  01/26/23
i can spend about $3k max on whores in a month that's abo...
Sooty giraffe nursing home
  01/26/23
currently paying 2,600 for a 2 bed, 1 bath, and i think this...
ultramarine insecure mood trust fund
  01/26/23
Decent rent. Where?
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
rent?
ruby stimulating feces set
  01/26/23
nice poast/moniker synergy
Exciting ratface
  01/26/23
...
vengeful prole piazza
  01/26/23
...
vermilion meetinghouse old irish cottage
  01/27/23
rent inflation has already been terrible for me and the rece...
Exciting ratface
  01/26/23
The grass is always greener friend. You regularly see the li...
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
i currently pay $6550. I assume it will go up to $6800 in a...
cerebral brunch antidepressant drug
  01/26/23
You people are insane. Why wouldnt you just buy a place.
Spectacular haunting corner gaming laptop
  01/26/23
Because buying a comparable place would be staggeringly expe...
Slate skinny woman
  01/26/23
So 1) don't buy a comparable place. Buy a place that is wors...
Spectacular haunting corner gaming laptop
  01/26/23
What's your net worth.
Slate skinny woman
  01/26/23
Why does it matter?
Spectacular haunting corner gaming laptop
  01/26/23
Mine is way higher, so I'm going to assume I'm much better a...
Slate skinny woman
  01/26/23
of course it is! (idiot goyim burning money)
Spectacular haunting corner gaming laptop
  01/26/23
If only I were smart like you, then I could be poor like you...
Slate skinny woman
  01/26/23
never intended to live in the US long-term so seemed to make...
cerebral brunch antidepressant drug
  01/27/23
RenTTT
Floppy turdskin
  01/26/23
Why the need to live in MFH? Can't you just rent in one of t...
180 selfie crackhouse
  01/26/23
I own and light 2k a month on fire in maintenance so
contagious frum corn cake
  01/26/23
i was paying 4K/mo in singapore and that seemed like a lot
mind-boggling umber hospital philosopher-king
  01/26/23
~70% of the all-in monthly cost to buy the same house.
crawly point hunting ground
  01/27/23
How do you figure (ballpark)? Like tax deductions? Equity?...
excitant box office
  01/27/23
Ballpark: Mortgage payment + property tax + insurance + HOA....
crawly point hunting ground
  01/27/23
3-4K and that seems high
useless hominid
  01/27/23


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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:46 PM
Author: excitant box office

like assume wife+kids and in high COL city and you rent. Where would you draw line and say "sorry even if we can afford I'm not doing it"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45845942)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:48 PM
Author: cobalt impressive heaven

$2k in NYC is my max

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45845954)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:48 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

Enjoy woodlawn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45845958)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:59 PM
Author: cobalt impressive heaven

I enjoy my 2 bedroom rent stabilized place in midtown east with an updated kitchen quite a lot, thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846034)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:07 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

>midtown east

>rent stabilized

Pick one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846078)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:11 PM
Author: cobalt impressive heaven

lol stay mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846096)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:16 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

I'll admit, I am. $200 "surprise" increase in maintenance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846126)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:50 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

I would never rent in the city with a wife and kids. I bought a coop precisely to avoid that.

That being said, 3k-4k for a decent 1 bdrm is what you'd have to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45845970)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:50 PM
Author: excitant box office

context: wife wants to rent a $7500 apartment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45845973)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:51 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

Slap her

Tell her you might buy, but in no circumstances are you renting for that much. She must come from a prole background

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45845978)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:51 PM
Author: maize mad cow disease

ATD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45845982)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:52 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45845988)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:04 PM
Author: Impertinent vigorous halford property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846063)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:53 PM
Author: house-broken rigor hell

that was in my range back when i had to move but i ended up with a place that cost a couple grand less. manhattan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45845992)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:54 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

Why is Manhattan a question?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846002)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:56 PM
Author: house-broken rigor hell

because the nicer parts of brooklyn are better for someone with multiple kids, and they're generally almost as expensive for a normal 2-3 bedroom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846017)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:06 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

Brooklyn is a sad blot on the eyes. Laughable to choose it over a non-harlem neighborhood in MFH, or to pretend that prices would be at all comparable if Brooklyn wasn't majority condo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846074)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:53 PM
Author: Galvanic blood rage school cafeteria

How much does she earn? And how much do you earn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45845993)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:54 PM
Author: multi-colored up-to-no-good haunted graveyard bawdyhouse

out the city

how big?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846000)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:04 PM
Author: excitant box office

to reply:

Yes MFH of course.

Now have 2 young kids.

We make around $600k so we can cover it.

Per weird MFH owning premium plus maintenance and taxes and now high interest rates, buying a comparable apartment ($1.75 million) is like 1.6X the monthly outlay (like $11,000) after putting down like $400k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846058)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:13 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

I make half that and own a 1 bdrm coop. You never pay taxes in a coop, and you will pay extra meaningless fees for rent. At 600k buy buy buy

2 bdrm UES coop for 800-900k and 2500 maintenance and a doorman is entirely within the realm of reason for you. Dump cash into it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846105)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:34 PM
Author: excitant box office

1 bd won't work. You think you can realistically get a 2 bd in UES for $900k? Seems unrealistic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846202)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:15 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

Not at all friend!!!

https://streeteasy.com/building/130-east-94-street-new_york/1b

https://streeteasy.com/building/3-east-85-street-new_york/6d

https://streeteasy.com/building/233-east-69-street-new_york/2j

https://streeteasy.com/building/300-east-71-street-new_york/11j?featured=1

https://streeteasy.com/building/sherman-towers/16g

https://streeteasy.com/building/the-amherst-401-east-74-street-new_york/3e

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846998)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 8:39 AM
Author: Confused coldplay fan sanctuary

Explain why you are fine paying $3K in maintenance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45848444)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 9:27 PM
Author: coiffed hilarious gas station fortuitous meteor

How much is yours and how much did you put down?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45847316)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:07 PM
Author: Passionate charcoal degenerate

That's normal for MFH/SF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846076)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:47 PM
Author: Spectacular haunting corner gaming laptop

You only make $600,000 (pre-tax) and you're spending $90,000 a year on rent?

I made that much in biglaw last year and spent $2000/ mo and then bought.

You people are insane idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846424)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:17 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

And I painstakingly sent him links of homes FOR SALE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45847005)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:58 PM
Author: house-broken rigor hell

buying doesn't make sense unless he's planning to stay long term.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45847186)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:54 PM
Author: multi-colored up-to-no-good haunted graveyard bawdyhouse

probably $5-6k but if I were somehow forced to live in a place like NYC/London then probably $10-12k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45845998)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:55 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

Goys be goy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846012)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:56 PM
Author: multi-colored up-to-no-good haunted graveyard bawdyhouse

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846014)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:17 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

No one should rent for 10-12k anywhere but a month to month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846129)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:20 PM
Author: multi-colored up-to-no-good haunted graveyard bawdyhouse

if you’ve got a family in MFH and you can afford it, why not?

some people pay multiples of that but for me I wouldn’t want to go above this number no matter what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846146)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:54 PM
Author: Slate skinny woman

Max depends on my income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846007)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:56 PM
Author: Transparent organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846015)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:16 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

Goy logic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846121)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:41 PM
Author: Slate skinny woman

Explain why the absolute dollar amount is what matters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846414)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 3:57 PM
Author: Carmine stage trump supporter

Depends on if you’re trying to get laid or have a family or whatever. Also phenotype. I think for CharlesXII to get laid in DC he’d have to live somewhere Cool. That’s worth $6.75k/month or whatever if you make $200,000k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846019)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:00 PM
Author: charismatic base

50% of post-tax income on housing just to Get Laid?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846037)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: maize mad cow disease

lol @ this logic if you need a whore just hire a whore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846055)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:11 PM
Author: Carmine stage trump supporter

CharlesXII can’t afford another scandal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846095)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:17 PM
Author: Sooty giraffe nursing home

i can spend about $3k max on whores in a month

that's about 3 girls a week

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846133)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:06 PM
Author: ultramarine insecure mood trust fund

currently paying 2,600 for a 2 bed, 1 bath, and i think this is my max

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846072)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:07 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

Decent rent. Where?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846075)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:08 PM
Author: ruby stimulating feces set

rent?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846082)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:09 PM
Author: Exciting ratface

nice poast/moniker synergy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846091)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:48 PM
Author: vengeful prole piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846430)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 10:40 AM
Author: vermilion meetinghouse old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45848822)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:08 PM
Author: Exciting ratface

rent inflation has already been terrible for me and the recession is just starting, so whatever number i can give, the real answer is apparently substantially higher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846086)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:14 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

The grass is always greener friend. You regularly see the light of truth, I see excel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846113)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 4:41 PM
Author: cerebral brunch antidepressant drug

i currently pay $6550. I assume it will go up to $6800 in a few months when the lease ends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846227)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:45 PM
Author: Spectacular haunting corner gaming laptop

You people are insane. Why wouldnt you just buy a place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846420)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:47 PM
Author: Slate skinny woman

Because buying a comparable place would be staggeringly expensive. $500k+ down and monthly payments of $15k+.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846423)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:48 PM
Author: Spectacular haunting corner gaming laptop

So 1) don't buy a comparable place. Buy a place that is worse.

and 2) at the very least your house is a savings account where you don't set your 500k on fucking fire.

Even proles understand this basic concept that their house is a piggy bank.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846433)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:49 PM
Author: Slate skinny woman

What's your net worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846440)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:51 PM
Author: Spectacular haunting corner gaming laptop

Why does it matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846450)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:52 PM
Author: Slate skinny woman

Mine is way higher, so I'm going to assume I'm much better at this "money" stuff than you are and disregard everything you say from here on out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846456)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:54 PM
Author: Spectacular haunting corner gaming laptop

of course it is!

(idiot goyim burning money)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846462)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:56 PM
Author: Slate skinny woman

If only I were smart like you, then I could be poor like you too!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846471)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 9:12 AM
Author: cerebral brunch antidepressant drug

never intended to live in the US long-term so seemed to make more sense to rent

also, monthly communal charges in manhattan for an equivalent place tend to run $2k or so a month, so u have to factor that in to the math

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45848494)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 5:47 PM
Author: Floppy turdskin

RenTTT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846425)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:58 PM
Author: 180 selfie crackhouse

Why the need to live in MFH? Can't you just rent in one of the out boroughs and commute? Is it really worth lighting a minimum of $3k-$4k per month on fire just to have a shorter commute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45846948)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:18 PM
Author: contagious frum corn cake

I own and light 2k a month on fire in maintenance so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45847016)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 9:18 PM
Author: mind-boggling umber hospital philosopher-king

i was paying 4K/mo in singapore and that seemed like a lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45847283)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 10:23 AM
Author: crawly point hunting ground

~70% of the all-in monthly cost to buy the same house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45848742)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 10:39 AM
Author: excitant box office

How do you figure (ballpark)? Like tax deductions? Equity?

Interest expense basically is half of the total purchase price over 30 years, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45848815)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 1:56 PM
Author: crawly point hunting ground

Ballpark: Mortgage payment + property tax + insurance + HOA.

Ignore equity unless you're planning to rent for 5+ years.

Ignore tax deduction, unless you're in the sweet spot of ~$750k mortgage and high tax bracket.

On the rent side, ignore the gains you could make by investing instead of down payment.

As an example, much better to rent than buy in SoCal right now. $2M house is $15k/month to buy vs. $7-8k to rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45849830)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 1:58 PM
Author: useless hominid

3-4K and that seems high

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278355&forum_id=2#45849844)