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Cholesterol is high but I exercise a lot. How bad?
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:05 PM Author: Hot peach mother Cholesterol numbers were high six months ago. Getting another test tomorrow and I assume numbers will still be high.
The bad:
I'm around 20 pounds overweight. Stress from work made me gain the weight, and I can't lose it.
The good:
I exercise for at least two hours every single day. Some combination of brisk walking, stationary bike, and weights.
Do I need to get on a statin? |
Date: January 26th, 2023 7:05 PM Author: Low-t Dilemma Selfie what is your hdl and triglyceride numbers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846757) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:16 PM Author: Hot peach mother Numbers from six months ago:
HDL: 47
Triglycerides: 133 |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:19 PM Author: Low-t Dilemma Selfie that is borderline bad. there is a 16x higher risk of heart disease if your triglyceride to HDL ratio is 3.5 or above. yours is 2.82, so not quite there, but borderline.
see here for more info:
https://roguehealthandfitness.com/longevity-anti-aging/the-most-important-lipid-panel-marker/
basically 0 doctors know this because they are idiots. |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:13 PM Author: electric idiotic multi-billionaire How do I bring these down? Not overweight but on test and levels similar.
I eat decently and high protein. Exercise 5x a week and sauna. |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:20 PM Author: Low-t Dilemma Selfie HDL is increased via exercise, i've had some success lowering my triglycerides by cutting out coffee (in a subset of individuals triglycerides are spiked by coffee use, but not in everyone). you can google how to cut triglycerides, people have various recommendations (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45847026) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:38 PM Author: Flesh appetizing menage What's the HDL/LDL ratio? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846870) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:52 PM Author: dashing lime heaven Not nearly as important as the HDL/trig ratio. Almost meaningless really. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846920) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:53 PM Author: Low-t Dilemma Selfie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846922) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:07 PM Author: Onyx university dood lose the fucking weight what are you eating? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846763) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:18 PM Author: Motley bright range fanboi Exercise does nothing. I lost 15% cholesterol and have not broke a sweat in two years. Lost 15lbs with it bc I wasn't trying to hit a calorie count to maintain weight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846811) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:19 PM Author: deranged chad Do you eat healthy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846815) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:20 PM Author: Motley bright range fanboi No. But don't eat a lot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846819) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:20 PM Author: Onyx university come on man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846820) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:18 PM Author: Cowardly area how high is high (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846813) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:26 PM Author: fear-inspiring sick mad cow disease What's your BMI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846836) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:28 PM Author: twinkling church blood rage You need to give up meat and dairy if u want to avoid a heart attack or stroke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846844) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:39 PM Author: Provocative knife parlor explain french cheese consumption and low heart attacks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846875) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:31 PM Author: twinkling church blood rage Cheese contains a high content of saturated fatty acids but also lists of potentially beneficial nutrients. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45847066) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 7:53 PM Author: dashing lime heaven Retarded and unscientific. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846924) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:40 PM Author: flickering market It's right for SOME PEOPLE.
Only way to find out is to run your own tests. |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 10:27 PM Author: Chest-beating set idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45847509) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 11:01 PM Author: Stimulating Home Sound Barrier Totally overly broad. The literature is pretty favorable to non-butter dairy. Hard cheese and unsweetened yogurt don’t appear to raise bad cholesterol. These feature heavily in diets like DASH and Mediterranean, which promote heart health. Best theory is that the milk fat globule remains unrefined in foods like cheese and yogurt so the liver somehow isn’t as troubled with the saturated fat in those foods. The milk fat globule in butter, however, gets whipped up in the refining process and becomes atherogenic. So your advice to ditch all dairy is retarded. That being said, OP should track his diet and lipid numbers in case his body reacts idiosyncratically to whole fat dairy. Meat is a different story. Basically all meat fat raises LDL, but there’s a wide range. Sticking with fish is generally best (omega-3 is cardio protective in other ways). Lean game meat is probably fine. As is chicken breast. |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:02 PM Author: Adventurous vengeful rehab karate Enjoy crestor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45846959) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:22 PM Author: haunting naked bawdyhouse pepper ur angus lmao, cholesterol plaque is irreversible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45847033) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:29 PM Author: flickering market Major lipidology CSVD-prevention MFE here.
1) Get your APO-B tested and focus on that moving forward instead of LDL-C. LDL-C is just a proxy for APO-B. You can order for yourself from laborp (via LifeExtension.com) for just $20. Don't have time to explain why now, but the best current science says that you can totally ignore HDL. Same goes for HDL/LDL ratio. Anyone paying attention to that is operating on outdated science. That said, if you want to pay attention to HDL -- get your APO-A measured instead. You can get a cheap APO-A/B ratio test that will give you both. 2) Get your LP(a) tested. If it's not high, you don't need to get it measured again. 3) Cut out all sugar, processed foods, high GI / GL foods. 4) Limit your saturated fat intake from animal sources. 5) Eat a shit load of veggies and fiber. Eat fermented foods every day. 6) Eat a shit load of organic tree nuts each day. 8) Up your excercise even more 9) Get your APO-B tested again -- twice -- 3-4 days apart. If still high then consider medication. If your insurance will cover it, or if you're loaded, try a PCSK9 inhibitor like Repatha first. If not, first try Ezetamibe and Bempadoic acid. Stack on a low-dose statin if still high after that. 10) If you still can't get your APO-B lower and/or don't want to take all those meds, you need to REALLY MAKE SURE that you don't have high blood pressure. If necessary, take blood pressure meds. 11) EXCERCISE, EXCERCISE EXCERCISE.
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Date: January 27th, 2023 11:05 PM Author: Stimulating Home Sound Barrier Most of this is pretty credited. Surprised to see something here in the nutritional space that’s not totally retarded. I would add that non-HDL cholesterol is probably a decent enough marker without having to get an exotic apoB test. I think the non-HDL cholesterol number and apoB are rarely discordant from what I recall. You just take your total cholesterol number and subtract HDL.
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Date: January 26th, 2023 9:43 PM Author: Misanthropic lodge cholesterol is needed for the production of testosterone.
eat more of it and lift heavy shit. |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 9:50 PM Author: flickering market Only a tiny fraction of the cholesterol in your blood is in lipoproteins, and only a tiny fraction of the cholesterol in your body is in your blood. Lowering the amount in your lipoproteins (or more importantly, the number of lipoproteins) does not lower the amount of cholesterol available to the cells in your testes to convert to sex steroids
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Date: January 26th, 2023 10:27 PM Author: Chest-beating set idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45847511) |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 11:06 PM Author: Stimulating Home Sound Barrier Xo retardism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45852493) |
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Date: January 26th, 2023 9:57 PM Author: Curious Metal Striped Hyena You need 5mg of Crestor a day for life. You’ll have zero side effects and your cholesterol numbers will look great.
Have a cardiologist do a check for CAD at some point too. |
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Date: January 27th, 2023 10:28 PM Author: dashing lime heaven (Retard NPC)
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Date: January 26th, 2023 10:20 PM Author: Chest-beating set idiot You can absolutely lose the weight. Eat less (and more lean protein), exercise more frequently and and with greater intensity. "Brisk walking" is not gonna fucking cut it. Start doing sprint intervals on the bike, using an assault bike if your gym has one, jumping rope, swimming, and running. 30 minutes of zone 2 or 3 cardio every day.
For lifting, get on a DUP powerbuilding split. I can provide one if needed.
Fleshlight tp is the bort cardiologist, so he's who you want to hear on this for the actual heart discussion.
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Date: January 27th, 2023 8:40 PM Author: flickering market MFCR. If not white, TCR response is killself and/or go back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5278473&forum_id=2#45851935) |