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Disney lost millions billions because they cast nigger Ariel
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Date: May 28th, 2023 10:26 AM Author: Galvanic puce business firm How insane is that. Ariel is only remembered for being a sexy redhead cartoon character and they cast a bigger who has fish spaced eyes
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Date: May 28th, 2023 10:28 AM Author: Nighttime tattoo skinny woman I thought the movie was doing well, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46364310) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:39 AM Author: Maroon Contagious Useless Brakes Bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46367123) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 5:34 PM Author: talented flirting athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46368558) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:33 AM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
You thought that because you're a low information retard. Anyone who has spent 5 minutes actually researching / learning about the profitability structure of these movies knew that this movie was FUCKED the first week it was out (due to internationa), even though of course (((The American MSM))) -- which would NEVER lie about anything! -- was declaring it a smash hit (based on first weekend domestic before word got out that it sucks and even though anyone with a brain knew that nigger Ariel wasn't going to perform well internationally).
Odd case! A real mystery!
PS: This should make you wonder what else your dumb low information ass is "missing" as you wander around thinking your dumb low information thoughts, but it won't. |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:43 AM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard LOL. Are you literally right about anything? The studios make WAY MORE profit domestically than they do worldwide because of distribution deals. Anyone who knows literally anything about movies knows this. Studios make about 60% of domestic ticket sales and around 20-40% on worldwide ticket sales.
By any measure this is a hit out of the gate. It made over $120 million domestically opening weekend alone. Where it ends will determine if it remains a huge hit, but literally nothing yet suggests it isn't. |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:50 AM Author: geriatric private investor station The movie isn’t a hit. It’s underperforming both domestically and especially abroad and is very likely going to be a loss for Disney. You are correct about domestic having a better margin but that isn’t enough here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391523) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:13 PM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard It beat projections for opening weekend. It is not underperforming anywhere that will matter as to profitably and being a hit.
How a big a hit is the only question. |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:15 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Did these "projections" also include an estimate that this nigger movie would see a huge ~2/3rd drop off in the domestic haul from opening week to the next week?
Just curious haha |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:21 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Liberal Jewish Pumo? Where'd you go, lil bro? |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:25 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391646) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:36 AM Author: 180 flatulent kitty faggot firefighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483297) |
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Date: August 10th, 2023 12:49 AM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46650740) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:55 PM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard I can't wait to bump the shit out of this.
It made $40 million this weekend even with Spiderman coming out and has been out for only 2 weekends when people go on trips and kids/parents are focusing on school ending.
It will make over $5 million a day this week on weekdays alone followed by another big weekend.
You know shit about movies, bro. And it is showing in your comments. Your retarded take about non-domestic sales above tells us everything we need to know about your confirmation bias (racism). |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:05 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Oh so domestic is gonna bounce back big next weekend, got it just wait two weeks.
LOL Ari |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:13 PM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard Bro, you are going to take so many Ls in this thread. You should have just shut up and taken your shine box home after you got called out on your idiocy regarding domestic v. worldwide studio take. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391775) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:16 PM Author: Red market french chef you are a 50 year old jewish homosexual (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391781) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2023 12:53 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
"Bro, you are going to take so many Ls in this thread."
OK, it's almost August now and this movie came out Memorial Day weekend -- time to drop these "Ls" on me. What are my "Ls" ITT? Can you be specific?
IMO the pwnage is way better when you get specific about exactly what I got totally wrong, IMO. Lay it on me brother. |
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Date: June 11th, 2023 3:01 PM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard Made another $42 millon domestic since your last post. Averaging $6M a day the last 7 days.
$229 million domestically in 17 days - exactly on pace with Aladdin 2019 - which was a huge hit.
Globally has made another $185 million for a 17 day total of 414 million.
As usual, TBF a know nothing talking out his ass retard. |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 6:06 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Any updates on the "2019 Aladdin" comparison? Still "exactly on pace" with that? Still a "huge hit"? |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 6:26 PM Author: erotic drunken whorehouse hominid Dude, is there something wrong with you? At 32 days, domestically Little Mermaid is at $275M and Aladdin was at $290M.
That is a 5% difference. And no one thinks Aladdin wasn't a HUGE HIT. So, now what the FUCK do you have to say?
It's already top 35 ALL TIME DOMESTICALLY for any G or PG movie?
How many Ls you looking to take? |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 7:01 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Oh so now a little more than two weeks later it's trailing Aladdin by 5% even domestically? (And that's in absolute numbers that don't factor in inflation, although in your defense inflation probably hasn't jumped up dramatically since 2019 or anything like that H A H A Y E A H).
Almost sounds like LM might be starting to peter off and may not end up having the longer term domestic legs Disney was hoping it would. Guess we'll have to bump this again in another 3 weeks to get a further update -- I'll mark my calendar!
Also, sorry, I'm gay and retarded, so can you clarify why you're limiting your DEVASTATING BLOW OUT RESPONSE to the domestic market only? Why don't we run this comparative analysis on total worldwide box office haul, since that's ultimately what matters to the bottom line? I mean, I was under the impression that the bulk of the profit on these movies comes from international audiences -- is that wrong?
At 32 days, how is LM faring vs. 2019 Aladdin across the board (including factoring in international box office)?
Thank ;) |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 8:37 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
PS: Although this takedown is re "Indy 5," it offers a nice little summary of exactly what it takes for a big movie to actually break even (spoiler alert for retards like you: It isn't just the budget to make the movie, and in fact it isn't even just the budget to make the movie plus the additional cost of advertising it, either!) -- and again, this is *just* to break even, not to turn a profit, let alone a *good* profit that is *worth it* considering the incredible amount of corporate time and human effort and upfront capital investment that goes into a huge movie like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KG-SfghRJE&ab_channel=TheCriticalDrinker
Indy 5 allegedly cost $300 million to make, the Little Mermaid allegedly cost $250 (at least that's what the studios are willing to publicly admit), so the math in this video re Indy 5 is in the same ballpark as what Disney needs to put up *just to break even* on LM. This guy estimates Indy needs to hit $900 million before it *starts* to turn a profit, so let's be extremely charitable and estimate that LM needs to hit ~$750 million before it *starts* to turn a profit.
So that's great news -- only another ~$250 million more to go before this piece of shit (which is now seriously fading domestically and has been bombing overseas) is no longer in the red! I'm sure it'll cross that finish line any day now!
https://screenrant.com/the-little-mermaid-box-office-lion-king-domestic-comparison/
PS: TL,DR this all means you're completely fucking dun here. Embarrassing that you actually thought you were "taking the W" in this thread. |
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Date: July 23rd, 2023 12:52 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
"I can't wait to bump the shit out of this"
So why aren't you doing that, Rudolph? We're now two months out and the hard numbers on this "hit movie" are in. Time to rek my anus for being so wrong ITT about this "hit movie."
Please respond? |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:58 PM Author: geriatric private investor station Are you retarded? https://deadline.com/2023/05/little-mermaid-box-office-profit-loss-halle-bailey-1235383099/
Note, that analysis is an anus-kissed love letter to Disney in that it's making heroic assumptions about ancillary revenue streams which probably don't hold up given the poor performance at the box office. A more realistic figure is probably around $650m box office for an overall break-even (that still won't come for a year or two after the film is released).
Again, all of this is to just *break even*. The film is a colossal fuck up by every method of measurement. |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:03 PM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard First of all, I 100% guarantee his/her conjecture is wrong as to the all important domestic numbers. This movie will easily be in the $400+M range domestically - I think it will make a slow burn $500M. Kids movies slow burn way more than splashy super hero movies, especially when they go into the summer and kids/parents are off more.
I have no idea what global will end up doing, but neither the FUCK does he. This movie opened ABOVE US projections and will be a hit.
Deal. |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:08 PM Author: geriatric private investor station I don't have to "Deal" because the numbers are going to fuck your ass more than any text based argument that you're clearly just ignoring because you want "woke Mermaid" to be doing better than it is. As we were having this RETARDED discussion I pulled Incredibles 2 numbers just for a comparison. That film did more than 6x its budget just at the box office on a 50/50 split. THOSE are the numbers that define a success to investors and the company. LM 23 is at ~1.3x and is fading fast. Get real. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391755) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:08 PM Author: Claret hairraiser plaza goyim this isn't even true. at $118M domestic, it undershot even the low end projections of $120M for the memorial day long weekend.
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:09 PM Author: geriatric private investor station Of course it isn't. He's claiming it overperformed based on numbers that aren't going to support a break-even scenario it's a stupid position to take. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391760) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:21 PM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard Uh, no. The projections from late April/early May were much less. That $120 million figure was last minute projections right before it opened and it essentially hit that at 118.6.
Here were the actual projections before:
https://deadline.com/2023/05/box-office-little-mermaid-opening-projection-1235356151/ $110 million.
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:26 PM Author: Claret hairraiser plaza goyim lol no only pay attention to this one link i found, not the studio tracking it to $120-130M just before its release. the goal was always to not break even!
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:30 PM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard Dude - that's from Deadline. They are the standard. Projections peaked up right before it opened, but that's not a bad thing you idiot.
Also, it is slightly outperforming Aladdin (2019) for the exact same days and that is a perfect comparable.
This movie is going to slow burn right to hit status:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3246360065/?ref_=bo_we_table_1
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1913750273/?ref_=bo_hm_rd |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:02 PM Author: Claret hairraiser plaza goyim so your new argument is....
... it is only performing marginally worse than a much less expensive movie domestically...
... its getting raped internationally...
and this is a success and exactly what disney wanted?
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:04 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Yes. And with that argument, he "pwned" you and you "took the big L."
(Gradually, we all grew to hate them.....) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:44 PM Author: Claret hairraiser plaza goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46392114) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:07 PM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard It's not performing worse. It made more domestically in the same amount of days so far.
It's budget was $60 million more. That's not going to make any bit of difference if this movie makes money or not. It will absolutely make money. And Aladin was a HUGE HIT! And it is performing better than that to date.
What don't you fucking get? |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:37 PM Author: Claret hairraiser plaza goyim it is making about the same amount, but in inflation adjusted dollars aladdin made about $215M in the same period
also alladin, which was a hit as you say, brought in nearly 70% of its revenue from international markets, where TLM is getting raped and not keeping pace at all
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Date: August 10th, 2023 12:49 AM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Update? Rudolph? |
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Date: June 23rd, 2023 3:48 PM Author: geriatric private investor station REMINDER: Rudolph predicted that "[t]his movie will easily be in the $400m range domestically" and went on to suggest that it will "slow burn" to $500m domestic. In fact, it's basically done at the box office with $260m domestic.
Total box office take right now domestic + international is at $470m and it'll be lucky to get much past $500m. Its break even point is around $600-$650m, and that's with generous accounting. It's another box office failure for Disney. |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 3:20 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Update: https://screenrant.com/the-little-mermaid-remake-box-office-update-global/
Almost like Rudolph is a fucking retard who got totally blown the FUCKKKKKK out ITT with his completely incorrect (yet very confidently stated) predictions. |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 3:40 PM Author: erotic drunken whorehouse hominid Counterpoint: YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD.
I know you're stupid and don't understand things - so let me try and explain one last time to you like you're a 5 year old.
This movie is a SUMMER DISNEY movie which means it stays at theaters through the entire summer. It's not going anywhere.
Moreover, DOMESTICALLY - which is what matters the MOST as that is where the big profit margins are, the movie after ONLY 33 days in theaters is already Top 35 ALL TIME for Domestic Gross for all G/PG movies.
So, the movie is NOT a BUST, will end up making a shit ton in PROFIT even if foreign gross is down because AZNs are racist against black people. This guy's speculation as to "marketing budget" is made up horseshit not based in reality. BUT, EVEN IF IT WERE TRUE, THIS MOVIE IS MAKING MONEY AND IS NOT A BUST.
IN CONCLUSION, enjoy being wrong and losing a war to the fucking Ukraine. |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 4:44 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
LMAO
Rudolph you're so mad and so wrong and so Jewish. It's incredible.
But yeah IMO this movie is going to continue killing it in the Domestic Box Office all Summer -- I mean, it's a Disney BLOCKBUSTER, it clearly has LEGS! It's not like it has already fallen out of the Top 10 on Rotten Tomato's "What's Hot Right Now" list and is currently trailing a low budget all-black "R"-rated niche horror movie parody about a Juneteenth party gone wrong that is literally called, "The Blackening."
https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/popular-movies/#:~:text=30%20Most%20Popular%20Movies%20Right%20Now%3A%20What%20to,Little%20Mermaid%20%282023%29%2067%25%20%2311%20...%20More%20items |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 5:04 PM Author: erotic drunken whorehouse hominid As per usual, this will be bumped and you'll skulk away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46490496) |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 5:05 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
I'm literally the one who bumped this thread today, retarded Jew. |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 5:59 PM Author: erotic drunken whorehouse hominid When the entire box office is in, you Russian retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46490740) |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 8:52 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46491320 |
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Date: July 23rd, 2023 12:55 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
It's now one month later, and the total worldwide box office for this "hit movie" has slowed to a snails pace and it's still sitting at *under* $550m *worldwide*.
Can we start talking about how this movie ended up performing overall "when the entire box office is in," or naw not yet, still premature, Disney will surely turn it around soon, "just wait two weeks"? |
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Date: July 23rd, 2023 12:47 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
One month later (7/23): Domestic box office (which has slowed to a crawl and fallen off a cliff -- it has now fallen out of the Top 10 and it only makes ~$200k a day and that figure is now dropping quickly) is *still* under $300m.
FYI, total WORLDWIDE box office is also under $550m, and it has always significantly underperformed internationally and it's been out for two months now so it's also become very stale on top of all of the other issues. Good lucking ekeing another ~$100m out of this piece of shit in order to just *break even* on your massive investment, (((Disney)))!
Rudolph vindicated? Haters blown out? |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:59 AM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Just bookmarked, let's check back in a month.
Goddamn I hate that Pumos are allowed on XO, that means there will be no real accountability when you get BLOWN THE FUCK OUT here (there never is with you "people" odd case) after you took a tone like this with me. |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:04 PM Author: Irradiated yapping son of senegal pistol Why are you idiots so fired up about a movie for little girls? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391576) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:05 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Shut the fuck up, Ari. |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:09 PM Author: big salmon center cp i'd rather lose posters than permit pumos |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:11 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391599) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:28 PM Author: Red market french chef you are arguing with Rudolph, fyi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391822) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:05 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
All Pumos are Rudolph brother. |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:12 PM Author: Red market french chef all ppl who do that brother shit are faggots, tbf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391965) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:16 PM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard Broheim, relax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391983) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:38 PM Author: Red market french chef go away rudolph (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46392089) |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 3:26 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Three weeks later: LJL |
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Date: July 23rd, 2023 12:44 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
7/23 check in (i.e., almost two months after theatrical release): still under ~$550 million TOTAL WORLDWIDE box office. Domestic still under $300m, it has now fallen out of the Top 10 and it only makes ~$200k a day now (and that's dropping fast). International badly trails domestic, it only just finally broke $250m in the rest of the outside of America nearly two months after being released.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Little-Mermaid-The-(2023)#tab=summary
How's this stacking up to "Aladdin" now? Can we get an updated comparison? We don't even have to adjust for inflation, just pretend that "inflation' doesn't exist and run the absolute numbers against each other. Is nigger Ariel still a "hit movie" in your estimation? Rudolph totally vindicated, his doubters (who don't know shit about anything) totally dun here?
Please respond? |
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Date: August 10th, 2023 12:48 AM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
8/8 update: "The Little Mermaid fell short of expectations, making only $561 million with a budget of $250 million. It didn't reach the break-even point and ended up losing money... These budgets don't account for marketing or distribution, meaning that the rule of thumb in Hollywood is that the break-even point is typically somewhere around 2.5 times the budget. This means that The Little Mermaid would start turning a profit once it got somewhere around $625 million at the box office. So, not only did The Little Mermaid miss Disney's $1 billion mark, but it actually bombed so hard that it lost millions."
Rudolph? Can you explain? Where are the lies in this article? Was this written be a deranged "Trumpkin"? |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:04 PM Author: Mauve metal pocket flask a 12 year old cartoon mermaid is sexy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391744) |
Date: May 28th, 2023 10:32 AM Author: Sepia cuckoldry $130M opening weekend. Settle down Cletus
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Date: May 28th, 2023 10:36 AM Author: heady startling area That’s what I was going to say. —henry |
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Date: May 28th, 2023 10:39 AM Author: Galvanic puce business firm Nigger Ariel is an abomination Jews need to knock it off trains are coming (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46364331) |
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Date: May 28th, 2023 2:17 PM Author: Zippy mewling parlour roast beef Whoops! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46364860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:36 AM Author: Maroon Contagious Useless Brakes Bawdyhouse Go Woke, Go Broke! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46367117) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:30 AM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
That's domestic. Usually international is double that. Which is important, because usually international is what makes these movies insanely profitable in the long run.
What is international looking like so far for "The Nigger Mermaid"? Asking for a friend who is retarded (aka you). |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:44 AM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard YOU ARE SO WRONG - AS USUAL! See above. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391503) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2023 1:01 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Nearly two months later -- where are we on this? Please respond above? |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:13 PM Author: Claret hairraiser plaza goyim (man who's weekends run from friday through tuesday)
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Date: May 28th, 2023 10:41 AM Author: Autistic Black Home Love Of Her Life jews, blacks, et al, can only parasitize white culture, can only feel 'validated' by stenciling themselves into and skinsuiting white culture.
they don't seem to feel any embarrassment about it. |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:26 AM Author: Fighting associate public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46367096) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 5:34 PM Author: Buff sticky stage gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46368560) |
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Date: May 28th, 2023 10:50 AM Author: stimulating canary foreskin https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2023/05/28/theres-something-fishy-about-the-little-mermaid-audience-review-scores-on-rotten-tomatoes/?sh=2a055cef511f (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46364347) |
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Date: May 28th, 2023 2:29 PM Author: Grizzly yarmulke LJL at RT having to doctor it’s scores with new “verified audience” ratings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46364914) |
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Date: May 28th, 2023 2:34 PM Author: insanely creepy new version (((Verified Audience))) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46364933) |
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Date: May 28th, 2023 2:36 PM Author: Zippy mewling parlour roast beef These scores actually kinda make sense to me? My kid wanted to see this so I went yesterday. She LOVED it and the theater (almost fully packed with white kids) was full of kids laughing and clapping.
As an adult i thought it was an unnecessary remake like every other live action Disney movie. It was over two hours for no real reason, and none of the new scenes really added anything. Critics should saying this is adequately produced MOR slop because it is. |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:39 AM Author: Aphrodisiac field Should be ashamed of yourself. You knew what this was (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46367122) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:09 PM Author: Shivering Citrine Boltzmann State "There are a handful of new songs and the only one I liked is the Scuttle rap, performed by Awkwafina with a bit of Sebastian harmonizing."
After someone posted that clip yesterday, I can't in any way take this person seriously |
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Date: May 28th, 2023 2:31 PM Author: 180 flatulent kitty faggot firefighter money wasnt the goal
so they "profited"
hth |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:28 AM Author: hateful adventurous forum internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46367104) |
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Date: May 28th, 2023 2:36 PM Author: exhilarant legend You guys are disgusting racists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46364942) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:26 AM Author: Thriller Bright Wrinkle thanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46367094) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 5:34 PM Author: talented flirting athletic conference First day on the bort? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46368561) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 5:35 PM Author: Buff sticky stage gaping you say that like it is somehow unjustified or unreasonable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46368563) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:25 AM Author: Thriller Bright Wrinkle https://deadline.com/2023/05/box-office-the-little-mermaid-1235380526/
$117.5 Million over four days, that's actually a flop and won't make it's money back.
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:29 AM Author: Impertinent trust fund Every big movie is too expensive now and barely makes a profit after production and marketing costs. Not sure why they even bother anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46367105) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:39 AM Author: Maroon Contagious Useless Brakes Bawdyhouse –Mattel broke new ground with its manufacturing to create doll hair that depicts Ariel’s. The item was so hot, that the social presale drop sold out within 24 hours and was ranked No. 1 best seller in dolls across various retailers. In addition, they’ve created eight dolls to support the launch of the Mom Influencer Campaign focused on Black mothers, and launched a first-time global partnership to develop a custom TV spot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46367121) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:40 AM Author: hateful adventurous forum internal respiration The bargain bin will be full of this shit in a couple of months (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46367126) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:40 AM Author: Maroon Contagious Useless Brakes Bawdyhouse COPE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46367127) |
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Date: June 4th, 2023 10:52 PM Author: vengeful vigorous goal in life LOL I thought you made this up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46390407) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 3:54 PM Author: Zippy mewling parlour roast beef Domestic box office is fine. The problem is the Ching Chong box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46368296) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:05 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Well also the fact that this piece of shit nigger movie has no legs (because it sucks) and domestic box office just collapsed by a whopping 2/3rds from the first week.
But yeah there are multiple problems, haha yeah. |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 9:27 AM Author: Khaki useless main people toilet seat nigger Ariel tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46367100) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 3:57 PM Author: jade pontificating striped hyena Shitcons never nor finding animated children "sexy."
Disgusting group. |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 4:03 PM Author: copper house Jews are buying tickets in bulk and handing them out in ghettoes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46368334) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 4:38 PM Author: 180 flatulent kitty faggot firefighter Lol I saw someone claim this on twitter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46368427) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 4:42 PM Author: Buff sticky stage gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46368438) |
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Date: May 29th, 2023 5:27 PM Author: comical point toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46368537) |
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Date: June 4th, 2023 10:53 PM Author: Tripping corn cake tank yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46390411) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:29 AM Author: boyish jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391445) |
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Date: June 4th, 2023 10:41 PM Author: Aphrodisiac field https://movieweb.com/the-little-mermaid-box-office-success/
Released in North America on May 26, 2023, prior to the Memorial Day Weekend, The Little Mermaid grossed $118.6 million over the Friday-to-Monday Memorial Day frame, slightly ahead of the 2019 live-action remake of Aladdin, which grossed $116.8 million during the same four-day frame in 2019.
However, this $118.6 million opening weekend at the domestic box office was more than offset by a lackluster opening weekend performance in the international markets, where The Little Mermaid only grossed $63.8 million, including a pitiful $2.5 million opening weekend gross from the all-important Chinese market.
As the previous live-action Disney remake films have made more money at the international box office than domestically, and by a wide margin, The Little Mermaid is in a very bad position to simply reach a break-even point financially, much less earn a sizable profit.
With a $250 million production cost and a reported $140 million marketing cost, The Little Mermaid, under the most generous of projections, needs to gross approximately $560 million at the worldwide box office, according to Hollywood insiders, to reach its break-even threshold.
However, this $560 million figure, which assumes a $300 million domestic gross and a $260 million international gross, also includes $100 million in expected earnings from television, both free and pay television, another $100 million from home entertainment, digital and DVD, and $80 million from international television sales and streaming rights. Basically, the $560 million break-even scenario accounts for an exhaustion of the film’s potential revenue streams beyond its theatrical life and leaves little possibility for the film to be able to achieve any substantial profit for Disney.
RELATED: The Little Mermaid (2023) Cast And Character Guide
Lagging Behind the Other Disney Live-Action Remakes
Little Mermaid posterWalt Disney Pictures With its weak international box office performance, The Little Mermaid has already fallen far behind the box office pace and performance of Disney’s previous live-action remake films, not including the pandemic-addled 2020 live-action remake of Mulan.
For example, the 2019 live-action remake of Aladdin grossed $356.5 million at the domestic and a whopping $695.1 at the international box office, for a worldwide box office gross of over $1 billion. Prior to Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, the 2017 live-action adaptation of Disney’s 1991 animated film grossed $504 million domestically, and $759.5 internationally, for a worldwide box office gross of over $1.2 billion.
In stark contrast, The Little Mermaid, at the end of its second theatrical weekend, has grossed approximately $260 million at the worldwide box office. Given its current box office trajectory, especially in the international markets, the only recent live-action Disney film that The Little Mermaid has a chance of surpassing, commercially speaking, is Dumbo, the 2019 adaptation of the classic 1941 animated film of the same name, which grossed $353 million at the worldwide box office gross, against a reported $500 million worldwide box office break-even point.
https://deadline.com/2023/05/little-mermaid-box-office-profit-loss-halle-bailey-1235383099/ In a rare situation for a Disney tentpole, particularly a live-action title based on a treasured classic animated musical, The Little Mermaid looks to bank more at the domestic box office ultimately than overseas, with $300M-$350M U.S./Canada to $260M abroad.
RELATED STORY ‘The Little Mermaid’ Review: Rob Marshall’s Live Action Take On Disney Animated Classic Is A Winner Both Above And Under The Sea At that level, per finance sources, off a reported $250M production cost and $140M global marketing spend, The Little Mermaid could very well break-even. However, anything in the low $400M global threshold and this fish is apt to be sinking to a loss of around $20M.
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Harrison Ford in ‘Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny’ Lucasfilm Ltd. “Not a huge disappointment, but a disappointment, nonetheless,” one film finance insider told Deadline, given the blockbuster streak often associated with Disney. The studio’s summer slate remains in a precarious position after it boldly world premiered two major titles in Cannes to lackluster reviews: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (49% Rotten Tomatoes) and Pixar’s Elemental (58% Rotten, $40M projected U.S. opening).
Aladdin ‘Aladdin’ Disney Little Mermaid‘s ebb tide at the box office is extreme when juxtaposed against the high water mark seen from the last Memorial Day Disney live action feature adaptation of a toon, Aladdin, back in 2019. That Will Smith pic cleared $1.05 billion worldwide, 66% of that gross generated abroad which also counted $53.4M from China. Little Mermaid‘s China ticket sales were non-existent with a $2.5M start. Given the quick burn of U.S. titles in the PRC, some believe that the Rob Marshall-directed musical may not even get to a double digit final gross there.
RELATED: ‘The Little Mermaid’ Cast Take A Deep Dive On Remake Changes, Challenges And What Makes The Perfect Disney Royalty
Should Little Mermaid break even, it would be a rare feat for a tentpole to do so on the back of its domestic box office. Typically a tentpole sees 60% of its global box office total (or more) coming from overseas. Typically Disney titles seeing 50/50 splits between domestic and international box office are movies such as 2018’s Christopher Robin and 2016’s Pete’s Dragon.
Again, the slowdown with Little Mermaid, despite a strong start stateside of $118.8M over the 4-day Memorial Day holiday (ahead of Aladdin‘s $116.8M) and a running total through yesterday of $130.2M, stems from the backlash the pic has received in certain offshore markets (i.e. Korea, China, France, Germany) over the casting of star Halle Bailey in the title role as well as review-bombing. Hopeful box office sources maintain that the pic’s opening in Japan, as well as buoyant results in Mexico ($8.5M), UK ($6.3M), Italy ($4.7M), Brazil ($4M) and Australia ($4M), will get The Little Mermaid to a final tally of $260M overseas.
In a break-even scenario off a $560M global box office (meaning a net profit of $71M before participations and residuals are accounted for), we’re told that Little Mermaid‘s global film revenues would amount to $547M against its combined production, global theatrical and home entertainment marketing expenses of $476M. The pic’s revenues broken down include $267M in global theatrical film rentals, $100M net in domestic pay/free TV and what Disney pays itself to put the movie on Disney+, $100M in global home entertainment (DVD, digital), and $80M in international TV and streaming.
This weekend, Little Mermaid encounters competition from Sony Animation’s Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse, which is expected to do $80M-$90M in U.S./Canada. However, that movie is largely a fanboy draw, and not expected to crimp Little Mermaid‘s fins. Hence, the second weekend hold for Little Mermaid looks to be around around $40M, -58%. Aladdin posted a second weekend of $44.9M, -53%, and ended its domestic run at $355.5M.
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Date: June 4th, 2023 10:56 PM Author: milky fiercely-loyal base death wish "the all-important Chinese market."
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Date: June 4th, 2023 10:57 PM Author: chocolate address china is the only reason disney isn't doing straight up tranny porn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46390427) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:22 AM Author: bearded factory reset button box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391434) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:32 AM Author: Tripping corn cake tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391453) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:08 PM Author: boyish jewess https://tulip.paheal.net/_images/8ddbfb6a113ba7f82e575853934a3466/1376189%20-%20Ariel%20HighFive%20The_Little_Mermaid.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391587) |
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Date: June 4th, 2023 11:55 PM Author: vengeful vigorous goal in life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46390577) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:31 AM Author: bipolar dysfunction locus “With a $250 million production cost and a reported $140 million marketing cost, The Little Mermaid, under the most generous of projections, needs to gross approximately $560 million at the worldwide box office, according to Hollywood insiders, to reach its break-even threshold.”
is this some Hollywood accounting mumbo jumbo? |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:42 AM Author: Red market french chef no, it's just basic math you fucking retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391488) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:54 AM Author: cerise pungent rigor how the fuck can marketing have cost $140 million (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391538) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:06 PM Author: lemon selfie feces That’s how much it costs to run tv advertising, billboards, bud stop ads, etc. across every major movie market in the world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391583) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:19 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Let's also bear in mind that hitting the "break-even threshold" here = a MASSIVE loss in any meaningful sense of that word.
Hell, even turning a mid-seven figure *profit* here would still be a financial debacle.
You think Disney spends multiple years and pours hundreds of millions of dollars into making a movie like this in an effort to eke out a glorious, uh... <$50 million profit?
The *only* reason studios ostensibly make expensive blockbuster movies is to try and capture blockbuster profits. The bet big and they want a big pot in return. So that's the real metric for Disney achieving meaningful financial success here, and it's very clear that there's a 0% chance that is going to happen with the piece of shit. The fact that we're even discussing where the break-even threshold lies means this movie has already failed miserably; the only question left is just how miserable the failure will ultimately prove to be when all the returns are counted. |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:14 PM Author: bipolar dysfunction locus you sound like you have some haterade in your game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391976) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:27 PM Author: Red market french chef you sound like you are a mentally retarded person (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46392049) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:41 PM Author: Diverse embarrassed to the bone twinkling uncleanness lol, "haterade"-- I think you ae on the wrong message board. This isn't NBAfans! or some shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46392106) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:26 AM Author: vengeful vigorous goal in life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46390642) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:29 AM Author: tantric nofapping genital piercing candlestick maker Unbelievably racist thread. You should seek forgiveness from Christ for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46390643) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:31 AM Author: Abusive Curious Shitlib the subtext that (((American))) companies make movies primarily for 'international' chink audiences (for whom they often edit out the globohomo propagandistic excesses), w/ the domestic American market being just a kind of afterthought is so gross. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46390644) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:58 AM Author: vengeful vigorous goal in life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391371) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:31 AM Author: Poppy Supple Chapel Round Eye wow dude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46390645) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:32 AM Author: aromatic misunderstood marketing idea temple who cares about a bunch of stupid Disney movies?
You chucklefucks let the Jews get you riled up over this garbage (blow-up Bud man!), while ignoring the whole-sale emmisseration of the white American middle-class and its replacement with a mysterymeat proletariat |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:46 AM Author: Thriller Bright Wrinkle Dropped 66% second week, Spiderman beat it's opening. It's over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391512) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:00 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
No, you idiot, you see, the profit margins on domestic are WAY higher than
LOL KIKES |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:05 PM Author: Irradiated yapping son of senegal pistol Oh no the black spiderman movie beat the black mermaid movie? Libs blown the fuck out right?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391581) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:12 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Whoa that almost seems like a huge goalpost move there, friend! |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:17 PM Author: Irradiated yapping son of senegal pistol Go cry more about kid movies you weirdo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391620) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 12:22 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
This is an amazing line btw. "LOL cons are oddly obssessed with kid shit -- they're the REAL weirdo pedophiles!"
Great job, I say run with it, guys. This seems like a real Overton Window gamechanger along the lines of the GOP's brilliant "Libs are the REAL racists."
I predict that all of the Middle America soccer moms will be nodding in agreement that Trumpkins are the REAL pedos real soon, just as long as you keep this up. ;) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:34 PM Author: Maroon Contagious Useless Brakes Bawdyhouse black men are higher status than Black Women (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391835) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:01 PM Author: Orchid razzmatazz partner quadroon Libs were absolutely BTFO ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391739) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 1:05 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
I'm literally loling at the Jewish Lib Pumo vociferously declaring victory over me above. Amazing stuff. |
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Date: June 11th, 2023 3:03 PM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard LOL. Because I was right - as usual. And you were wrong, as usual.
Made another $42 millon domestic since your last post. Averaging $6M a day the last 7 days.
$229 million domestically in 17 days - exactly on pace with Aladdin 2019 - which was a huge hit.
Globally has made another $185 million for a 17 day total of 414 million.
As usual, TBF a know nothing talking out his ass retard. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2023 3:49 PM Author: lemon selfie feces It doesn’t matter how much revenue is generated if it doesn’t turn an acceptable profit. Tbf is correct on this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46464243) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:18 PM Author: mahogany property faggotry Lol they mounted a vigorous jew defense early on, but linking that deadline article sealed their fate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391990) |
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Date: June 7th, 2023 3:11 PM Author: aromatic misunderstood marketing idea temple if you care about this, you are a shabbos goy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46400058) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:19 PM Author: bearded factory reset button box office This thread title was first a subject line in an email between those former Lewis Bribois lawyers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46391999) |
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Date: June 5th, 2023 2:20 PM Author: Marvelous shimmering cruise ship haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46392002) |
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Date: June 11th, 2023 3:06 PM Author: vengeful vigorous goal in life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46415460) |
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Date: June 11th, 2023 3:16 PM Author: chocolate address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46415481) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2023 3:51 PM Author: Claret hairraiser plaza goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46464261) |
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Date: June 26th, 2023 12:19 PM Author: erotic drunken whorehouse hominid Just went over $500 million in under a month AKA HALF A BILLION. OH WHAT A BUST! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46475203) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:12 AM Author: geriatric private investor station The break-even point for the movie is around $600-$650m. It is a bust. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483179) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:30 AM Author: Thriller Bright Wrinkle The Little Mermaid (2023): WORLDWIDE $501,267,536
Beauty and the Beast (2017) WORLDWIDE $1,266,115,964
yeah its a flop. |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:34 AM Author: geriatric private investor station It's insane to me that (((certain people))) are trying to cite box office numbers without contextualizing by budget. Yes, $500m is great if your budget + marketing was $100m. It's really bad if your budget + marketing was $600m. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483281) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:35 AM Author: Maroon Contagious Useless Brakes Bawdyhouse its really fucking weird. they should know better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483288) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:42 AM Author: geriatric private investor station I've also noticed that there's been almost no (((media coverage))) of the box office performance which is funny, you know, since so often they'll track how movies do at the box office for months and months and write think pieces about them but here it's been almost radio silence .... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483332) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:49 AM Author: Indigo motley piazza Dumb take. I had no idea all the previous Disney remakes did better than most Marvel movies at the box office until I just checked. No publication other than THR, Deadline and Variety track it closely, and the incentive of other media outlets is to highlight failures of competitors v celebrate successes. This particular movie is interesting bc it has a unique split between domestic and international, but the fact that domestic media isn’t covering the poor international box office of a movie released over a month ago is not at all remarkable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483363) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:53 AM Author: geriatric private investor station Nah, it's an on point take, friend. Search "Little Mermaid Box Office" on Google News. There's minimalist coverage. Similar story on social media sites. Tentpole movies like this typically get dissected and regurgitated in news coverage, first with reporting of performance and then with post mortem pieces. I track this frequently with different movies and there's a noticeable difference in the level of coverage this film is getting. A good comparison would be Strange World, which was also a box office bomb and got a ton of tracking and post hoc analysis. Which suggests maybe some things are more verboten to discuss than others. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483385) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:53 AM Author: Chest-beating flesh trailer park rigpig 500 million in 2023 is 400 million in 2017 dollars almost exactly LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483387) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:42 AM Author: Indigo motley piazza Break even is $560M.
https://screenrant.com/the-little-mermaid-box-office-lion-king-domestic-comparison/
But regardless it’s a huge disappointment given that the other recent live action remakes (Lion King, Aladdin, Jungle Book, Beauty and the Beast) all went over $1B. A $250B budget for this was absurd. They’ve more or less exhausted their remake options, so all the talk about Ariel being black obscures 1) the likelihood that the audience is not there for these any more anyway, nor should they be given how SPS so many of them were (Lion King, Aladdin in particular), and 2) the openness to US cultural influence in many of these markets, but specifically in China, is a macro risk for GC that no one ever considers, but it’s likely to get worse. I do think wokeist content clearly exacerbates it, but generally I don’t expect that Hollywood shitting out remakes and capeshit will ever again be as profitable as it was in the 2010s. |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:47 AM Author: geriatric private investor station The $560m figure has already been discussed up-thread and adjusted by the XO brain trust to be more like $600-$650m box office given that the $560 box office analysis relies on the ASTOUNDING claim that it includes the assumption of an additional:
"$100M net in domestic pay/free TV and what Disney pays itself to put the movie on Disney+, $100M in global home entertainment (DVD, digital), and $80M in international TV and streaming."
I agree with a lot of the other things you've written but a live action remake of one of the classic Disney Renaissance films clearly has $1b potential and Disney SQUANDERED it. |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:51 AM Author: Indigo motley piazza I mean obviously if they had Sydney Sweeney in a red wig with her tits on display there’s no doubt it would’ve done $1B+. I would’ve taken my kids to see it a dozen times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483371) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:53 AM Author: geriatric private investor station hahaha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483393) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:54 AM Author: insanely creepy new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483397) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 11:34 AM Author: bearded factory reset button box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483587) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 11:08 AM Author: Indigo motley piazza Re your insistence on $600M as a break even number (because above someone said a $50M profit doesn’t count?), I would point out that a box office only analysis of the profits of any movie like this is wildly low IQ, but I assume we’re all stipulating to that. The reality is that Disney makes shitloads off of all of these no matter what, and in this case I’m pretty certain they were more motivated by the merchandising opportunities of selling a non white girl character to the mostly non white parents of children under 10 in the US, and the revenue numbers on merchandise for all of these movies over a timeline of a handful of years are an order of magnitude greater than box office numbers. They still print money selling Elsa dresses to little white girls all these years later, and their recent brown girl characters are either too dykey (Moana) or too nerdy (Encanto) so 80% of this was likely motivated by filling in the spot on the toy shelf (and the girls clothes rack, and the backpack shelf, and the pencil case shelf, and the plastic kid plate and cup set shelf, etc.) at Target. Any of you guys thinking Iger et al are sitting at their offices thinking “how do we use these characters to advance the cause of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion? I don’t care whether those finance eggheads say we might lose money” are being very silly.
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Date: June 28th, 2023 11:12 AM Author: geriatric private investor station No one is suggesting what the low-IQ analysis is, i.e., a box-office only analysis. The point, since XO is a high-IQ site, is that the ancillary revenue and licensing stream assumptions (oh, and the (((one-weird trick))) booked revenue from intracompany licensing!) are heroic, particularly IN LIGHT OF the poor box office performance (which is predictive of derivative revenue streams) and therefore Deadline's break even box office number requires an upward adjustment to better reflect the reality of this steaming turd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483474) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 11:14 AM Author: Indigo motley piazza Lower box office is broadly predictive, but they don’t do $60B a year in merch sales bc they don’t know where there is unmet demand for their cheap plastic Chinese made garbage products. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483488) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 11:16 AM Author: geriatric private investor station And that's fine no one is saying there won't be ancillary revenue just that the deadline numbers are very aggressive and a more reasonable box office break-even is around $600m. This is all, by the way, argument around the margins; this movie is just barely passing $500m and is a colossal blunder for a company whose purpose is to generate profit from its films. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483509) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 11:27 AM Author: Indigo motley piazza I guess. My larger point is still basically standing and not refuted, ie that the “black Ariel single cause hypothesis” attributing 100% causation to their choice casting the lead as a black girl is still an unproven assertion. And given the context that all of their major IP categories are underperforming relative to a few years ago, largely due to over-saturation of market demand for an endless series of remakes and spin-offs (other than Avatar I guess) you gave a higher bar to convince anyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483566) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 11:34 AM Author: geriatric private investor station I wasn't engaging with your "larger point," because I view it as a distraction from the factual issue that some idiots are clearly still struggling with ITT, which is that, for whatever reason, the film has been a colossal financial failure.
Arguing about the cause of that will necessarily be more subjective. It seems like you'd like to argue about that? One easy response is that the movie performed comparatively poorly against almost all (all?) other Disney live-action remakes that have come out, particularly in inflation adjusted terms, and when we look for material differences, one of the obvious ones is that Disney went "woke" with its casting in a very apparent way that runs contrary to the original movie and seems in tension with the point of live-action remakes. We could also point to the series of other recent Disney / Pixar box office bombs, all of which have the common thread of an insertion of wokeism / politics into what ostensibly should be family-friend entertainment.
You're going to respond "nah, it's audience exhaustion." Hard to refute that at this exact moment in time -- we'll need to see how subsequent films perform; but it seems like a convenient escape argument from the more straightforward analysis. |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 12:18 PM Author: Indigo motley piazza My larger point is a refutation of the proffered theory of causation in the OP, brother.
Onward was a flop and wasn’t woke in any sense. Encanto arguably was more woke-ish and did well relative to everything else during the pandemic but was SPS at the box office relative to historical performance. Elemental’s box office run has been ass so far and Indiana Jones appears poised to do similarly shitty. The wokeism single cause theory is based on cherry picking examples, ignoring ones that don’t fit the theory, and failing to address the fact that many of the worst performing movies are also super shitty see eg Strange World. |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:56 AM Author: Chest-beating flesh trailer park rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483405) |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 3:22 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
When this movie ends up making like ~$600M worldwide or whatever (against a ~$560 break even point), it will be declared a massive success by disingenuous Jewish retards ITT.
Because yeah, that's what Disney was obviously always aiming for in creating this hugely expensive and extremely time-consuming Summer megablockbuster -- a profit margin significantly under $100 million (along with little chance of selling significant amounts of ancillary merchandise globally because this bombed on the world market and ESPECIALLY in China aka the biggest market in the world).
Huge victory, making <$50 million profit (if that) on this massive project was ALWAYS Disney's REAL goal, conservatards! You idiots just don't understand finance and business. Checkmate! |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:35 AM Author: Maroon Contagious Useless Brakes Bawdyhouse this was an L. stop bumping this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483291) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:42 AM Author: geriatric private investor station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483334) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 10:57 AM Author: Chest-beating flesh trailer park rigpig It made 400 million in 2017 dollars, back when Beauty and the Beast made 1.2 billion with a white lead. That's a third of what they made 5 years ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483406) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 6:43 PM Author: Claret hairraiser plaza goyim disney doesn't mind leaving a billion dollars on the table because they will make it up many times over from the huge and incredibly lucrative black girl doll market, see pumo above
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Date: June 29th, 2023 7:10 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Yeah but Disney *wanted* that to happen, you just don't understand business or finance you retard |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 9:17 PM Author: Indigo motley piazza Disney does $60B in merch per year, so you’re literally talking about a less than 1% change in that market. This has been true of all high concept/blockbuster movies for all studios for decades. These media conglomerates make most of their money off big budget blockbusters via long tail licensing fees and merch. Little Mermaid has always been shittier as IP v the other 90s classics, see eg it shit the bed on Broadway while Lion King and Aladdin printed billions. But as their big Memorial Day release Little Mermaid was easily a multi billion dollar merch play for this summer. Obviously they would’ve preferred if it had done better at the box office, but in the case of a MC/UMC/rich non white families, especially black families they are trying to draw many multiples larger of the revenue out them beyond a few tickets to see a movie in a theater minus the exhibitors fees, distribution fees and royalties/points participation of key principles. If they find a few million black and other non whites and SJW mom families that are black Ariel super fans and spend hundreds on merch over the course of several years, then they will do better than if they had cast a red headed girl and didn’t find those super fan dollars but did a few hundred million more of box office.
Are there MAGA and Christian Dominionist parents boycotting Disney? Clearly yes, and it is definitely making an impact. But you people need to grasp that this is a rigged game where Disney already makes several billion dollars from a movie like this across a dozen other business units. So the reason it seems like they aren’t really sweating the MAGA hatred is that they aren’t. See also attendance is down at Disney parks, and yet their revenue is up. MAGA is not going to Disneyland and UMC libs just get to enjoy shorter lines and they spend more while they do it. |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 11:39 AM Author: Razzle navy garrison mad-dog skullcap It's insane how a bunch of balding asian law school dropouts are arguing (ENHANCE! ENNNNHANCEEEE!) over a children's movie's box office numbers all bc the lead actress is black but not halle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483619) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 11:40 AM Author: geriatric private investor station Cope some more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483626) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 11:56 AM Author: Razzle navy garrison mad-dog skullcap no it is you who shall do the coping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483704) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 12:00 PM Author: geriatric private investor station Walk me through that one, hoss, given that the current headline is "Woke Disney Film Is Box Office Bomb." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483723) |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 4:45 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Yeah but that's wrong for reasons, that's just the media shitting on Disney because they hate Disney or something (don't think about this too hard).
Here in reality, Disney's nigger movie is ackkkkshually doing great, the evil MSM (which hates Disney and hates nigger movies trust me and again don't think about this too hard) just doesn't want to admit that. |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 11:43 AM Author: erotic drunken whorehouse hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483635) |
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Date: June 28th, 2023 12:02 PM Author: Chest-beating flesh trailer park rigpig (Lynn Conway tp) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46483735) |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 5:08 PM Author: boyish jewess nigger ariel tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46490515) |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 6:57 PM Author: comical point toaster huge plot hole - niggers can't swim ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46490968) |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 9:40 PM Author: Indigo motley piazza I note that you did a racism here and that’s a bad thing to do. That being said 1) I admit I laughed, 2) it is blatantly obvious that a black Ariel was definitely some white SJW office shrew’s idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46491570) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2023 12:48 PM Author: aquamarine chad circlehead "I note that you did a racism here and that’s a bad thing to do."
Source? |
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Date: June 29th, 2023 9:23 PM Author: Racy ivory sound barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46491498) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2023 12:42 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#46580220) |
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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:42 AM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
TIME FOR THE FINAL TALLIES ON THIS THREAD --
TOTAL WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE FOR "THE LITTLE MERMAID 2023" (all global receipts are now indisputably in, there is no more "just wait two weeks retard it's a 'slow burn' you don't understand film" left to invoke at this point): ~$568 billion.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Little-Mermaid-The-(2023)#tab=summary
BEST ESTIMATES ON HOW MUCH IT NEEDED TO MAKE JUST TO *BREAK EVEN*: ~$560 billion.
Congrats, Disney! You made like ~$8 million in total profit on your biggest blockbuster of the year!
That's about what "CSLG" (one successful shitlawyer in Los Angeles) personally made in the last twelve months running chiropractor insurance scams. It's also like $5 million in 2015 dollars, but hey, who's counting haha.
That's a pretty big win, right? I'm mean, I'm admittedly not a 'numbers guy', but ~$8 million in total profit sounds like a huge success for one of the biggest entertainment products put out by one of the biggest movie studios in the world in 2023!
Really need Rudolph the Film MFE and other Jewish Pumos who clowned on me a few months ago for foolishly claiming that this film would end up being a financial disaster for Disney to come in here and celebrate how wrong I ended up being. Come on guys, don't hold back... take the victory lap! I was wrong, this movie didn't lose money, it made ***8 million dollars***! |
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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:43 AM Author: Thriller Bright Wrinkle This would have been a slam-dunk billion-dollar movie if they had cast an attractive white female. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#47104487) |
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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:45 AM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
Bro, are you a fucking retard? This movie made a PROFIT of ~$8 MILLION dollars. Have YOU ever made $8 MILLION dollars?
You sound like a dumb racist who just doesn't understand how FILM works. This is a BIG WIN for Disney.
$8 MILLION dollars. Wow! |
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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:46 AM Author: Thriller Bright Wrinkle 1.4% rate of return. You should have just bought T-Bills, Iger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#47104509) |
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Date: November 27th, 2023 12:17 PM Author: Ocher Self-centered Office To be fair,
You just don't understand FILM. This is HUGE! A BIG WIN! |
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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:47 AM Author: Red market french chef all the quasi live action remakes of these movies are sps regardless. they should actually focus on making animated movies with new content. they could afford to pay decent writers to come up with stuff if they stopped overpaying for famous actors to do all the character voices in every fucking movie they make. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#47104511) |
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Date: November 27th, 2023 11:51 AM Author: Thriller Bright Wrinkle Their newest animated Film also starring a nigger was released last week and flopped. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#47104523) |
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Date: November 27th, 2023 12:18 PM Author: Red market french chef which one was that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5347042&forum_id=2#47104684) |
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Date: November 27th, 2023 12:28 PM Author: Thriller Bright Wrinkle https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3097657857/
Holy shit it opened 3rd too. |