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PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Sales Comparison in the US
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Date: September 17th, 2023 11:52 AM Author: Karlstack( ) https://www.vgchartz.com/article/456369/ps5-vs-xbox-series-xs-sales-comparison-in-the-us-january-2023/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46807697) |
Date: September 17th, 2023 12:04 PM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) Dangerous misinformation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46807723) |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 12:25 PM Author: Karlstack( ) You’re fucked. It’s only widened since then. You’ve already lost the domestic Gen just like you lost your Hair.
PlayStation 5 Total Sales: 12,383,131
Xbox Series X|S Total Sales: 9,965,429 |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 12:46 PM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) The Gen has only just begun, unlike your career and chances at a Middle Class income. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46807812) |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 1:37 PM Author: Karlstack( ) Do you understand that the gap is only going to widen? In a couple of years you're going to be longing for the days where PS5 was "only" ahead by a few 1,000,000K units. Xbox, particularly Series S, was much more available than PS5 on store shelves in 2020-2022. Furthermore, PlayStation gamers are disproportionately WFH types and thus were more inclined to spend time buying/playing Consoles during the "pandemic."
Scumbags have also just about ran through their stimulus and thus don't have cash to burn like during the pandemic. |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 1:55 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. I'm not sure I buy this view that PS is somehow a more premium product. You buy Xbox because it is more powerful, has premium accessories, has GamePass, and compliments a gaming PC nicely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46807942) |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 2:21 PM Author: Karlstack( ) It's not obvious which one is more powerful afaik between Series X and PS5 but the PS5 clientele is much, much more well-heeled, and Series S is weak af. Xbox 360 was weaker than PS3 but Scumgineer westerners couldn't tap into it Original Xbox was powerful af, granted. There were lots of ports from original Xbox to PS3 that skipped PS2 iirc. |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 5:15 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. "It's not obvious which one is more powerful afaik between Series X and PS5"
Series X versions of shared games are generally at least a bit better.
"the footage Xbox Series X runs slightly better than PS5 - something we'll need to test in the full release." "this build locks at around the 50fps line on average on Xbox and around 45fps on PS5."
That's about a 10% difference.
But some games are better optimized for PS5.
At any rate, Series S is much weaker and isn't intended to directly compete with the PS5.
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Date: September 17th, 2023 1:52 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Nintendo outsells both. The real question is whether MS is happy with the 10m number. Keep in mind that their business model is different because they're really all about selling GamePass membership. I suspect they're doing really well there.
Neither company makes much on the hardware sales. |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 2:23 PM Author: Karlstack( ) There might be PS1 situation going on where Switch games are easy af to pirate. But yes, next gen graphics are getting less and less compelling and Nintendo has a lot of intellectual Jap games going for it. People aren't going to go for Nintendo's BS next gen unless they make The Same Console/The Same Games over and over again. If they try to be creative or do something Fun, they're fucked imo. |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 4:59 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Idk about that. The difference between XB1 and Series X and PS4 and PS5 is noticeable.
Nintendo wins every single console generation. That's because while only some adults game pretty much all kids game and little kids love Nintendo. Also some casual adult gamers also love the switch.
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Date: September 17th, 2023 5:40 PM Author: Karlstack( ) No one even talks about this for 8th-9th gen. It's basically a toss up
360 western multiplatform games looked better, but Uncharted 2 or MGS4 look better than anything on 360 afaik.
Nintendo Lost almost every gen except the current one. Wii was an outlier and was basically one gen back (along with the Switch really). They Lost with the N64, Gamecube, and Wii U badly. Sega won in the U.S. with the Genesis (tied the SNES and if you include 32X and Sega CD sales, they Won). |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 2:29 PM Author: Karlstack( ) Also you're drinking some major Scumgineer / Businessshit kool-aid if you're lauding MSFT's "business model" with the X.
They're charging like $120 year for a shitload of games for which they inevitably have to pay quite a bit to the publishers (it's not like Nintendo where the NES/SNES games they offer bundled with online service are mostly first party). Sony is making you pay $80/year for JACK SHIT except for 3 shovelware games per month + the privilege of playing online. Sony's "business model" of winning the gen combined with whatever they can scalp from their fans is a much better "business" than what MSFT is doing. The economics of gamepass reek of desperation on MSFT's part imo. Good for the fans (of Forza/Project Gotham/Flight Sim/Saints Row or whatever), but bad for Business. |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 5:04 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Correct, because I'm in business so I'm all about that ARPU analysis when deciding who "won." Another area in which Nintendo has traditionally done really well.
MS own a bunch of the publishers of those games and is working on acquiring more. But this is the same analysis any streaming service does. Nevertheless, how much is Netflix worth? Hulu? Seems like the business model works. |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 5:44 PM Author: Karlstack( ) their costs are way higher. PS5 has more users paying for online than MSFT does with gamepass, and MSFT is paying out the ass to have so many "free" games listed. Either paying the publisher for the privilege or buying them directly.
PS5 gives you 3 TERRIBLE games for $80/year. MSFT lists 1,000k games for $120/year. Their costs are like 1000kx higher imo.
Buying publishers is also a n00b move imo. they pay out the ass for them in such a way where it takes like 20 years to break even. But in "2 years, 3 months" like 60% of their Engineers will be gone. Rare was Ruined the second MSFT bought them. |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 5:48 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. "PS5 has more users paying for online than MSFT does"
Link?
"MSFT lists 1,000k games for $120/year. Their costs are like 1000kx higher imo."
Pop quiz: how many games is 1000k? They absolutely do not list that.
"Buying publishers is also a n00b move imo"
What do you do for a living, bro? |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 5:49 PM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) He’s a frikkin joke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46808767) |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 5:49 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. I've noticed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46808769) |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 5:53 PM Author: Karlstack( ) we are supposed to be Allies you Bald fraud (along with spaceporn) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46808792) |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 5:50 PM Author: Karlstack( ) PS5 has 2x the gamers globally. If Xbox has more people subscribing to gamepass than PS5 does subscribing to basic online, then this stands as PROOF that PS5 users are more intellectual than we thought. they don't need to game online because they have rich inner worlds. But in any event these stats aren't generally made public (unless one side wants to brag about something). anyway I googled this and it's definitely more subscribing to PS5 according to any and every source. who knows how accurate any of it is fwiw.
1000k is 1000k you idiot
I am a Businessman.
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Date: September 18th, 2023 6:48 PM Author: More like "StarFlop" (DDC) I am sure they lose assloads of money on gamepass. There is no way the economics work. Imagine EVERY xbox owner buys it. That's only a billion in revenue every year. Even with a 100% tie rate, they couldn't cover even the bare costs of the first party games they put on gamepass (Halo Infinite was several hundred million by itself). Then consider what they have to pay all of the third parties with games on gamepass...there is no way that the whole endeavor is not hemorrhaging money. It is still being priced as a loss leader and would need to double or triple in price to become financially viable (but even then it wouldn't due to adverse selection--the only people who would pay $30 for a sub are those core gamers who would spend more than $30 without it). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46813674) |
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Date: September 18th, 2023 6:51 PM Author: Karlstack( ) But but but it’s just like Netflix! It’s a Subscription Service! It’s Tech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46813691) |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 4:47 PM Author: Karlstack( ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46808555) |
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Date: September 17th, 2023 8:05 PM Author: Karlstack( ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46809436) |
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Date: September 18th, 2023 6:28 PM Author: Karlstack( ) https://www.vgchartz.com/article/458012/ps5-vs-xbox-series-xs-sales-comparison-in-the-us-june-2023/
Total Lead: 3,590,240 - PS5
PlayStation 5 Total Sales: 14,594,035
Xbox Series X|S Total Sales: 11,003,795 |
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Date: September 18th, 2023 6:29 PM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) The Gap is closing fas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46813563) |
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Date: September 18th, 2023 6:30 PM Author: Karlstack( ) See below idiot
And this is WITH the Series S. $200 cheaper! And much much easier to find for a LONG time. This gen is a massacre. |
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Date: September 18th, 2023 6:55 PM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) I don’t have to listen to this freaking crap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46813721) |
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Date: September 18th, 2023 6:59 PM Author: Karlstack( ) You’re Losing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5407398&forum_id=2#46813744) |
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Date: September 18th, 2023 6:30 PM Author: Karlstack( ) January: winning by 24% July: Winning by 32%
What a sad Joke |