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Swashbuckling yarmulke
  11/18/23
any foreign policymo who was against the Ukraine bullshit is...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
he predicted the Ukraine war years ago
Swashbuckling yarmulke
  11/18/23
What does he argue against re: Ukraine? I thought his point ...
sable private investor
  11/18/23
he constantly says it shouldn't have expanded and that this ...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
I’ve seen him say second point, not the first.
sable private investor
  11/18/23
he regularly cites the statements from the 90's and says Bus...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
some random poster is pwning you repeatedly and you’re...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
He cites both those things to support his thesis that the Ru...
sable private investor
  11/18/23
don’t hold your breath waiting for Chang, I mean hank,...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
this is ridiculous, of course he is saying that NATO should ...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
Lmao
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
still nothing
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
For Jews, Russia did terrible things to their grandparents a...
lemon office
  11/19/23
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drab national security agency degenerate
  11/21/23
his work with walt on the israel lobby was great and he's be...
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  11/18/23
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supple nibblets
  11/18/23
lol no he thought Russia would take over the country easily
milky toaster
  11/18/23
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black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
I recall him saying that the russian invasion force was obvi...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
so he was right about the first part and wrong about the sec...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
they are winning and never went all in
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
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supple nibblets
  11/18/23
why won’t they go all in? it’s existential for t...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
because they never wanted to conquer and occupy Ukraine, the...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
Lmao Date: November 18th, 2023 5:03 PM Author: hank_scor...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
I honestly can't believe you actually think the horseshit yo...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
I’m just quoting your stupidity here, chang
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
absolutely no one who isn't a retard disagrees with what I s...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
Date: November 18th, 2023 5:10 PM Author: hank_scorpio a...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
hank is fairly credible on Ukraine he said Kiev would fall i...
gold mexican
  11/18/23
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black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
you guys really do live in imaginationland
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
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drab national security agency degenerate
  11/21/23
he said ukraine would be "wrecked" and everyone wo...
Sticky parlor new version
  11/18/23
okay so he was completely wrong about both? Lmao
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
last i checked the country has experienced severe damage fro...
Sticky parlor new version
  11/18/23
yes, and this would have been avoided by…? oh I gu...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
agreeing to Russia's primary demand, you can't be that dense
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
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arousing blue alpha
  11/19/23
just read mearsheimer, he made his views very clear: &quo...
Sticky parlor new version
  11/18/23
but then Russia would be marching through the streets of Par...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
oh yes, a prosperous and neutral Ukraine that has zero agenc...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
as opposed to a ruined Ukraine with no agency of its own tha...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
lol this is such a nonsensical gooky response
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
its an observation of the current reality, idk wtf you're hi...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
open your squinty eyes and we'll talk
black angry party of the first part
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drab national security agency degenerate
  11/21/23
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drab national security agency degenerate
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drab national security agency degenerate
  11/21/23
“Just let big countries take over small countries at w...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
no, don't provoke big countries into invading small countrie...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
ok so we just disagree about what “provoke” mean...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
what exactly is the interest of the US in the political alig...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
I could go on an on about this but you’re a dyed in th...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
so you can't come up with even one simple reason?
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
gbtc gookboi
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
go walk through a minefield in eastern ukraine
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
I’d rather send money to kill Russian mongrels your...
black angry party of the first part
  11/18/23
idiots like you are the reason civilizations collapse under ...
exciting tan mother famous landscape painting
  11/18/23
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  11/18/23
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drab national security agency degenerate
  11/21/23
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drab national security agency degenerate
  11/21/23
Please go to Ukraine before Russia nukes it. The world would...
painfully honest church
  11/18/23
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drab national security agency degenerate
  11/21/23
he's good on Israel/zionists, but i looked into him and i th...
passionate light brunch stock car
  11/18/23
Same argument made here for almost 2 years now. But what the...
Excitant piazza jewess
  11/18/23
Ukraine is not sovereign and now is so reliant on the suppos...
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drab national security agency degenerate
  11/21/23
it isnt obvious this has had any economic impact on russia, ...
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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:16 PM
Author: Swashbuckling yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071764)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:18 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

any foreign policymo who was against the Ukraine bullshit is going to be fairly cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071769)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:28 PM
Author: Swashbuckling yarmulke

he predicted the Ukraine war years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071798)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:53 PM
Author: sable private investor

What does he argue against re: Ukraine? I thought his point was that Russia was acting 1) in accordance with realist principles and 2) in response to US/NATO expansion, not that the US shouldn’t now involve itself.

And even though he says NATO’s eastward expansion led to the war, does he actually take the step to say NATO shouldn’t have expanded? He seems more descriptive than prescriptive whenever I see him speak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071878)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:54 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

he constantly says it shouldn't have expanded and that this was a predictable result

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071885)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:00 PM
Author: sable private investor

I’ve seen him say second point, not the first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071905)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:04 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

he regularly cites the statements from the 90's and says Bush was a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071917)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:08 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

some random poster is pwning you repeatedly and you’re too stupid to realize it

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071937)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:27 PM
Author: sable private investor

He cites both those things to support his thesis that the Russian invasion is NATO’s fault, but isn’t that different than saying NATO was wrong to expand? In any event I don’t know how a realist goes about apportioning “blame” for a war without losing his realist status. Aren’t all countries operating under amoral, power maximizing calculations at all times?

Do you think NATO expanding eastward aligns with Mearsheimer’s theory of offensive realism or do you think NATO’s expansion shows the theory is wrong?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072039)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:34 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

don’t hold your breath waiting for Chang, I mean hank, to answer any of these questions. all he knows how to do is regurgitate vatnik talking points

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072253)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:36 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

this is ridiculous, of course he is saying that NATO should not have expanded as it yields no benefit and starts a costly war that was entirely avoidable, no one has yet stated a single benefit of NATO expansion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072255)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:36 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072258)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:40 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

still nothing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072277)



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Date: November 19th, 2023 1:52 AM
Author: lemon office

For Jews, Russia did terrible things to their grandparents and great grandparents. NATO expansion is revenge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47073376)



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Date: November 21st, 2023 12:21 AM
Author: drab national security agency degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47081055)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:36 PM
Author: Sticky parlor new version

his work with walt on the israel lobby was great and he's been largely correct with regard to how the ukraine conflict would play out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071812)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:44 PM
Author: supple nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071834)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:47 PM
Author: milky toaster

lol no he thought Russia would take over the country easily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071843)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:48 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071848)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:49 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

I recall him saying that the russian invasion force was obviously too small to even contemplate that but they could easily win in the end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071859)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:52 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

so he was right about the first part and wrong about the second

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071873)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:53 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

they are winning and never went all in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071881)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:56 PM
Author: supple nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071893)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:02 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

why won’t they go all in? it’s existential for them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071909)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:03 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

because they never wanted to conquer and occupy Ukraine, they wanted to destabilize it politically and push back NATO, job done so far, the West is already sick of this and will not be continuing past the election cycle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071912)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:06 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

Lmao

Date: November 18th, 2023 5:03 PM

Author: hank_scorpio

because they never wanted to conquer and occupy Ukraine, they wanted to destabilize it politically and push back NATO, job done so far, the West is already sick of this and will not be continuing past the election cycle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071927)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:07 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

I honestly can't believe you actually think the horseshit you say you do, it's astounding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071932)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:08 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

I’m just quoting your stupidity here, chang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071941)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:10 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

absolutely no one who isn't a retard disagrees with what I said, it is only controversial to delusional people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071949)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:11 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

Date: November 18th, 2023 5:10 PM

Author: hank_scorpio

absolutely no one who isn't a retard disagrees with what I said, it is only controversial to delusional people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071949)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071956)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:06 PM
Author: gold mexican

hank is fairly credible on Ukraine he said Kiev would fall in 2 days which proved to be true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072149)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:33 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072245)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:34 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

you guys really do live in imaginationland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072251)



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Date: November 21st, 2023 12:20 AM
Author: drab national security agency degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47081048)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:04 PM
Author: Sticky parlor new version

he said ukraine would be "wrecked" and everyone would be a loser in the end, seems right to me. he also said he didnt expect russia to take the whole country, just the donbass and maybe some additional parts of eastern ukraine. close enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071918)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:10 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

okay so he was completely wrong about both?

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071954)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:12 PM
Author: Sticky parlor new version

last i checked the country has experienced severe damage from two years of war, so point one seems accurate, and russia is occupying 20% of the country, so 2 for 2 for prof john in my book

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071965)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:22 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

yes, and this would have been avoided by…?

oh I guess you didn’t think that far ahead. or you’re a bitchboi who thinks that being submissive guarantees peace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072015)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:24 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

agreeing to Russia's primary demand, you can't be that dense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072029)



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Date: November 19th, 2023 2:58 AM
Author: arousing blue alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47073433)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:30 PM
Author: Sticky parlor new version

just read mearsheimer, he made his views very clear:

"The United States and its European allies now face a choice on

Ukraine. They can continue their current policy, which will exacerbate hostilities with Russia and devastate Ukraine in the process—a

scenario in which everyone would come out a loser. Or they can switch

gears and work to create a prosperous but neutral Ukraine, one that

does not threaten Russia and allows the West to repair its relations

with Moscow. With that approach, all sides would win."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072053)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:34 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

but then Russia would be marching through the streets of Paris!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072064)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:36 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

oh yes, a prosperous and neutral Ukraine that has zero agency of its own but somehow fends off a future Russian attack!

why didn’t they think of that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072256)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:37 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

as opposed to a ruined Ukraine with no agency of its own that fails to fend off a Russian attack that happens immediately?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072260)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:38 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

lol this is such a nonsensical gooky response

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072266)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:40 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

its an observation of the current reality, idk wtf you're high on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072279)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 6:42 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

open your squinty eyes and we'll talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072283)



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Date: November 21st, 2023 12:21 AM
Author: drab national security agency degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47081054)



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Date: November 21st, 2023 12:20 AM
Author: drab national security agency degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47081049)



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Date: November 21st, 2023 12:19 AM
Author: drab national security agency degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47081046)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:49 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

“Just let big countries take over small countries at will.”

*smirks scholarly*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071855)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:50 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

no, don't provoke big countries into invading small countries for no good reason was his point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071860)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:52 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

ok so we just disagree about what “provoke” means and what defines “no good reason”

other than that yeah I’m totally a realist too haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071869)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:54 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

what exactly is the interest of the US in the political alignment of Ukraine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071884)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:01 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

I could go on an on about this but you’re a dyed in the wool Russiacuck so you’re hopeless

also, gbtc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071907)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:03 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

so you can't come up with even one simple reason?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071914)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:07 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

gbtc gookboi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071931)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:07 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

go walk through a minefield in eastern ukraine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071934)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:09 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

I’d rather send money to kill Russian mongrels

your slant eyed cousins are next. watching them drown on the Taiwan strait will be full of lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071947)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:10 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

idiots like you are the reason civilizations collapse under the weight of the retards they let live out of their own earlier success

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071955)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 5:12 PM
Author: black angry party of the first part

🥢

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071960)



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Date: November 21st, 2023 12:22 AM
Author: drab national security agency degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47081060)



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Date: November 21st, 2023 12:21 AM
Author: drab national security agency degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47081056)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 7:12 PM
Author: painfully honest church

Please go to Ukraine before Russia nukes it. The world would be better off that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072392)



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Date: November 21st, 2023 12:22 AM
Author: drab national security agency degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47081064)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 4:57 PM
Author: passionate light brunch stock car

he's good on Israel/zionists, but i looked into him and i think he's an open-borders nut with a lot of other nutty views outside of being based on Jews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47071895)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 7:06 PM
Author: Excitant piazza jewess

Same argument made here for almost 2 years now. But what the hell...

A country is either sovereign or its not. Russia had already blocked NATO and likely EU succession with 2014 nonsense. The 2022 bullshit was not justified or good for either the rus or Ukraine.

Usual suspects upthread taking seeming pleasure in suffering is horrible. Russia will lose more from this war than Ukraine. Neither country can afford the demographic results of this war but Ukraine will be flooded with EU/US money for a long time to come which will help it bounce back.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072375)



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Date: November 18th, 2023 7:07 PM
Author: exciting tan mother famous landscape painting

Ukraine is not sovereign and now is so reliant on the supposed aid it will never be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47072380)



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Date: November 21st, 2023 12:22 AM
Author: drab national security agency degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47081067)



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Date: November 21st, 2023 11:56 AM
Author: supple nibblets

it isnt obvious this has had any economic impact on russia, unlike ukraine. but that is still a stupid way to measure this.

ukraine has committed suicide. hundreds of thousands of ukes are dead. millions more have fled east or west. it is demographically over.

there may or may not be be some sort of blob on the map labelled ukraine 50 years from now, but it wont be inhabited by ukrainians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47082175)



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Date: November 21st, 2023 11:53 AM
Author: drab national security agency degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446423&forum_id=2#47082160)