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House mastermos: should I rip the PEX plumbing out, replace with copper?
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Date: February 9th, 2024 4:15 PM Author: Khaki exhilarant mad-dog skullcap The guy who owned our house before us was a cheap bastard and used PEX plumbing. Is it going to turn my kids into unhappy, gender ambiguous blobs? I haven’t even priced out the copper replacement yet; just curious what your thoughts are on PEX. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47385318) |
Date: February 9th, 2024 4:27 PM Author: Flirting Lilac Corner pex is fine as long as you don't have sharkbite connectors in the walls and you don't bury it underground if you're anywhere with a rat problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47385378) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 6:59 PM Author: Racy Shivering Casino Coldplay Fan What's wrong with sharkbite connectors, and what should be used instead? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47385855) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 1:46 AM Author: Flirting Lilac Corner sharkbite connectors are push-to-connect fittings with movable plastic parts/teeth inside and rubber o-rings. these can break if you (or the idiot that installed it, and most real plumbers won't install them) weren't super careful, can leak if they weren't pushed to seat to the correct depth or properly deburred before connecting, and will eventually leak as the o-ring wears out. if it's something sitting on an external surface that you can look at and go "well fuck my ass, the sharkbite is leaking" and then fix it in thirty minutes total by shutting off your main water, looking for the other sharkbite connector you know you had somewhere in the fucking garage for 28.5 minutes, and popping the fucker on once you find it, that's no big deal. if it's in a wall you're going to find out its leaking when you get major mold problems or the first floor ceiling starts to bulge. pex has two other connection types: one is a crimp connection that's basically just a metal ring that goes around the pex and gets crimped down, and the other is a connection that stretches one side of the pex slightly and inserts the other like two uncut dicks docking. which one you use depends on whether you have A or B type pex. either will last far longer and be far cheaper than sharkbites anyway; sharkbites are just really easy and quick.
i've used the crimps, sharkbites, and sweated copper in plumbing projects in my house. it's all easy. the stuff i have sharkbites on is immediately visible/accessible or underground but in an access port i can get to, and everything with sharkbites has a redundant separate shutoff. and i may replace several because i'm good at sweating copper now and have to reroute some of the plumbing in my current project anyway. |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 9:48 AM Author: pale 180 halford institution i've heard this said about sharkbites (that the o-ring will wear out) but it seems like flame honestly. have you ever seen it happen IRL with a properly installed sharkbite? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387125) |
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Date: February 11th, 2024 1:30 AM Author: Flirting Lilac Corner no, and i'm kind of in line with you on this, but i've only had sharkbites in my house for about 18 months. if you lurk plumber forums this is a HOTLY DEBATED TOPIC with tons of butthurt flying back and forth and the general consensus is even the properly installed ones will leak eventually. "eventually" is, again, a HOTLY DEBATED TOPIC that causes a lot of yosemite sam fuming faggotry and could mean anything from a couple years to 25+ years.
also, disclaimer: even though i will happily do all sorts of prole goy mr fix it maintenance on my own house, including plumbing and electrical, i am a bald lawyer and have no formal training or licensure in any of it. |
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Date: February 12th, 2024 11:47 AM Author: pale 180 halford institution IMO plumbers feel a lot of existential angst about sharkbite and pex. they know it makes it a lot easier for normal people to do plumbing themselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47393761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2024 12:05 PM Author: Flirting Lilac Corner yeah, probably. although if normal people knew how easy sweating copper was they would do more plumbing themselves anyway. and pex crimp connections are even easier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47393822) |
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Date: February 12th, 2024 1:22 PM Author: pale 180 halford institution i've sweated joints but i'm not so sure i'd say it's so easy to do it right, in a way where the joint is durable for the long run. easy to contaminate the pipe, re-melt the solder, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47394211) |
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Date: February 13th, 2024 2:35 AM Author: Flirting Lilac Corner debur, sand, flux, heat the fitting and not the pipe, then just touch the solder to the crack where the pipe meets the fitting and it will suck right in and seal as it rushes to the heat. continuing to heat the fitting and not the pipe will draw more solder in and not remelt in a way that leaks out and breaks the seal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47396960) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 6:47 PM Author: Racy Shivering Casino Coldplay Fan 180 ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47388241) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 11:59 PM Author: Provocative Doctorate Stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47389106) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 4:28 PM Author: Buck-toothed ocher pisswyrm Pex is pretty good. I wouldn’t repipe unless you have casted pipes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47385384) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 6:53 PM Author: Khaki exhilarant mad-dog skullcap I get it from a structural standpoint, but what are the chances this cheap shit is going to turn my kids fat and genderless? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47385837) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 9:11 PM Author: insanely creepy native partner that will happen regardless if you send them to public schools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47388648) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 6:19 PM Author: dun nowag point That's gonna cost like 6 figures no? If you really care, it'd be cheaper to just get water delivery service. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47385732) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 6:37 PM Author: Khaki exhilarant mad-dog skullcap Seems like a worthwhile investment. What’s the point of having money if you’re just going to take shortcuts and fuck your kids up endocrinologically (no need to respond here EPAH).
And swapping for water delivery would just swap one form of plastic delivery for another. |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 7:01 PM Author: Topaz state I have my son's mother take a 5 gallon glass "carboy" to the reverse osmosis station at the local grocery store and she fills it up. That's the only water my son drinks. It avoids this whole issue. |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 10:05 AM Author: White massive spot I have those for home brewing. Full, that’s probably 60 pounds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387146) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 9:23 PM Author: Dashing very tactful stage LOL “‘my son’s mother”? You mean your wife? Oh right you’re a divorced pencil dicked loser. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47388701) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 11:55 PM Author: Topaz state And you're a deranged Jewish pedophile. What got your pants rustled today, Shlomo? Perchance are you infuriated that some time maybe 6 weeks ago I noted that your desert brethren are going too far by killing 13,000+ children? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47389098) |
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Date: February 11th, 2024 12:00 AM Author: Provocative Doctorate Stage it's more prestigious to have your wife's son do it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47389110) |
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Date: February 11th, 2024 12:01 AM Author: Topaz state Need some time to process this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47389113) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 7:00 PM Author: Topaz state When I built my camper, i used only copper piping due to this concern. Fuck plastic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47385857) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 7:19 PM Author: Khaki exhilarant mad-dog skullcap It seems like the right call, but fuck is it going to be expensive. I’m thinking about maybe just doing it to the kitchen and letting the bathrooms be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47385929) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 7:20 PM Author: cocky exciting abode you do know the line running to your house in the first place is plastic right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47385932) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 7:32 PM Author: smoky home new version And you know the water comes out of a creek or river where things die and shit before it gets chlorinated to fuck and back? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47385983) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 8:14 PM Author: Khaki exhilarant mad-dog skullcap Mine comes from a 500ft deep well about 80 yards from my house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47386105) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 12:26 AM Author: cocky exciting abode and what kind of line is buried to the house? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47386693) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 10:00 AM Author: pale 180 halford institution i'm going to come piss SSRI juice all over your lawn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387143) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 8:19 PM Author: french ladyboy Use cast iron (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47386116) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 9:00 PM Author: Khaki exhilarant mad-dog skullcap I don’t think you can do that since the 1950s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47386222) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 10:00 AM Author: pale 180 halford institution cast iron was never used for water supply lines in houses. it's still used for sewer lines, though not in most home applications outside of like Chicago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387142) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 1:10 PM Author: Buck-toothed ocher pisswyrm Casted galvanized pipes were widely used. They were coated with zinc to avoid corrosion. They only have a useful life of about 40-50 years because the zinc breaks down, the pipes corrode, and eventually begin to leak. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387430) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 7:25 PM Author: pale 180 halford institution those aren't cast iron. they're usually not casted, they're hot-rolled steel coated in zinc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47388334) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 8:27 PM Author: navy marvelous turdskin No wtf lol why would you do that pex is great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47386143) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 8:56 PM Author: Khaki exhilarant mad-dog skullcap (Lynn Conway tp) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47386209) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 9:44 AM Author: jade razzle bawdyhouse blood rage What did you read that convinced you PEX would seep plastic into the water and it would effect your kids like that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387121) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 9:04 PM Author: Khaki exhilarant mad-dog skullcap It was banned in California until about 10 years ago because of shit leaching out of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47388621) |
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Date: February 11th, 2024 1:34 AM Author: Flirting Lilac Corner no it wasn't. it wasn't officially approved in the CA plumbing code until an EIR was finished in 2009, but municipalities were allowed to approve it in local amendments to plumbing code and a good chunk did another decade plus before that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47389285) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 9:51 AM Author: mentally impaired trip stag film generalized bond Why not just drink bottled water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387130) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 9:53 AM Author: shimmering marketing idea just get a reverse osmosis system installed for your drinking water in your kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387135) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 10:12 AM Author: Cordovan faggot firefighter cuck Do this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387155) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 10:17 AM Author: startled high-end preventive strike I did this, it was pretty easy to install. I did run a plastic line from the RO tank to the fridge for ice/water dispenser, so thats probably turning us gay, but there is also a tap in the sink that comes directly from the RO tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387171) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 10:34 AM Author: Topaz state This will not filter out what he's worried about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387180) |
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Date: February 11th, 2024 1:41 PM Author: Cordovan faggot firefighter cuck What is it he's worried about then? The standard home RO system also includes an activated charcoal filter for VOCs, which is the main concern with PEX. Best thing is not to use PEX for drinking water, of course. Or anything, really. It leaches a lot of shit. I'm a copper fan and that's what I have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47390283) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 10:12 AM Author: comical pink sex offender Pex is fine unless you got shitload of animals around your house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387154) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 10:18 AM Author: White massive spot Surprisingly good responses ITT. OP your well casing and delivery pipes are very likely plastic. Polyethylene most likely. Go look if you have access - it black, shiny plastic. And very likely PVC supply between well and house. I wouldn’t be concerned about PEX, either A or B. It’s good quality stuff. It won’t burst if it freezes (fittings might but w/e). Pex A especially has some very cool physical properties. You can fix a hard kink by applying heat.
SharkBite fittings are a complete scam for big box stores to sell a $25 fitting instead of a far superior 50 cent one. Only thing is you need the right tools to use the 50 cent fitting. |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 10:22 AM Author: Sticky cruise ship rigor lol at drinking tap water. Poland Spring or nothing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387176) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 1:00 PM Author: Brindle ticket booth therapy Schedule 80 brass plumbing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47387413) |
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Date: February 10th, 2024 11:56 PM Author: Topaz state LOL wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47389101) |
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Date: February 11th, 2024 12:00 AM Author: Unhinged Histrionic Space by the time the water hits your copper pipes it's already filled with microplastics and birth control runoff. they've found huge amounts of this stuff on Mount Everest. there's no escape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47389109) |
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Date: February 11th, 2024 8:37 AM Author: jade razzle bawdyhouse blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47389573) |
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Date: February 12th, 2024 7:54 AM Author: Khaki exhilarant mad-dog skullcap It’s amazing that you can’t not poison yourself anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488751&forum_id=2#47393134) |